Re: gpsd and AGPS
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:21:54 +0200, Ken Yale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have 4 great ideas to discard or supplement the location cache: 1) CellID database inside the phone. ...or on a server, updated with contributions from many users. Note that such database can even be used by non-GPS-capable devices (e.g. running OpenMoko) to find their approximate location -- you can't get any precision, but at least it gives you the city and district, enough for tasks like finding a café nearby. 2) Power-on after a long timeout with a prompt to discard location. 3) Flight mode with no destination typing. This one should probably also have a prompt. Software shouldn't try to be smarter than the user. 4) Change cell network. With (1) working, this will rarely cause loss of location; the current location aid will rather be replaced with location data associated with the CellID. If the new location aid doesn't contradict the previous one, we're having a case of overlapping networks, and the previous data (more precise) shouldn't be discarded. Each of these sparks additional ideas and opportunities for improving autonomous GPS: - invalidate location cache from sort of travel manager application that knows you're flying because of schedule, change of timezone, invoking flight mode, etc. Could tie into the airport destination planning to get a rental car, directions, local information, etc. Could be useful, but only if it's transparent to the user and behaves predictably. Another issue is driving through tunnels. Garmin receivers used to have this problem: when you drive into a tunnel, the signal is lost, and upon exit, the last valid location (entry point) is used as aid. Norway (where I happen to live, so I'm affected by the issue) has a lot of tunnels, including the longest one in the world which is 24.5 km long. After driving though such a tunnel, the cached location is a hindrance rather than an aid. As the result, immediately after exit the device could show your location in some unrelated point. They fixed this in newer versions of the firmware by using the map data: when you enter a tunnel, the device looks up on the map where its exit(s) are (sometimes tunnels have branches inside), and uses those locations as aids when the satellite reception restores. Garmin devices also show your inferred location while in the tunnel, based on the tunnel shape on the map and your average speed during some time before entry. Neo has a technical advantage here because its accelerometers allow to perform some dead reckoning (combined with map data, if available). -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AW: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones like OpenMoko
Well, i guess - this is the result of Steve's heavy drug consumption in the early 70th's. The same story with the old Apple II and Mac - hide hide hide - loosing realtity - what a mess for that kind of brain. cy Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 28.09.2007 15:12 An: OpenMoko Communitycommunity@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Apple#39;s heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones likeOpenMoko BBC NEWS | Technology | Apple iPhone warning proves true http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7017660.stm ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Nokia open to anything ads
Ad: http://biotech9.getmyip.com/~jammy/nokia.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/639/nokiabo2.jpg Open to anything http://www.nseries.com/open I guess there are different definitions of open. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones like OpenMoko
Friend, which type of drugs do you use to loose reality and fairness? People have different views on the world (even without drugs). And different goals for their life (e.g. Earn lots of $$$ vs. Freedom for Everything). Therefore, their conclusions what is correct and the right thing is different. It does not help the OpenMoko project in ANY WAY to insult Steve Jobs personally. What helps is to be a different (and better) product than e.g. the iPhone and others. Nikolaus Schaller Am 01.10.2007 um 15:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, i guess - this is the result of Steve's heavy drug consumption in the early 70th's. The same story with the old Apple II and Mac - hide hide hide - loosing realtity - what a mess for that kind of brain. cy Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 28.09.2007 15:12 An: OpenMoko Communitycommunity@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Apple#39;s heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones likeOpenMoko BBC NEWS | Technology | Apple iPhone warning proves true http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7017660.stm ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nokia open to anything ads
I have no problem with this, myself. The Nokia phones are fairly open - not as much as the Neo, but they are definitely free to develop for. Their N800, for example, is effectively closed only in hardware. This is no worse than a huge number of PCs, whose hardware has closed drivers. Nokia is a very succesful company with a lot of products, so they can easily spread awareness of the advantage to an open platform. That is something currently very difficult with the OpenMoko project at the moment, but essential to its success. It is nice to see Nokia taking this approach, as it shows they have a comitment to it as the powerful selling point it should be. Besides, Nokia's phones are a lot more open than various other leading smartphones -- let's hope they blast the closed ones out of the marketplace. Bye, -Dylan McCall On 10/1/07, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ad: http://biotech9.getmyip.com/~jammy/nokia.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/639/nokiabo2.jpg Open to anything http://www.nseries.com/open I guess there are different definitions of open. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Please welcome Graeme Gregory
Dear Community, Today I'm extremely excited to announce our latest employee: Graeme Gregory. He's going to be our OpenEmbedded and BitBake developer. (We're really trying hard to add more depth to our team to support this huge effort.) Graeme's primary task is maintaining the OpenMoko distribution in OpenEmbedded, keeping classes and recipes up to date, ensuring that the distribution is buildable at all times and managing distribution releases. He'll be around distro-devel@ more than the rest of us. Definitely feel free to pick his brain if you need help. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please welcome Graeme Gregory
Welcome Greg ;) On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:06:25 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community, Today I'm extremely excited to announce our latest employee: Graeme Gregory. He's going to be our OpenEmbedded and BitBake developer. (We're really trying hard to add more depth to our team to support this huge effort.) Graeme's primary task is maintaining the OpenMoko distribution in OpenEmbedded, keeping classes and recipes up to date, ensuring that the distribution is buildable at all times and managing distribution releases. He'll be around distro-devel@ more than the rest of us. Definitely feel free to pick his brain if you need help. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Vibrator
Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I assumed this was spam. On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
funny spam On Monday 01 October 2007 04:41:38 pm Tim Shannon wrote: I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I assumed this was spam. On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jeffrey Thomas Sierra Bravo 952.948.1211 x1046 952.567.6346 Direct www.sierra-bravo.com 9201 East Bloomington Freeway Suite CC Bloomington MN 55420 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
Yep, I actually deleted the original message without a second thought! On 10/1/07, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I assumed this was spam. On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary and battery consuming On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary and battery consuming I am not sure what else is on the list, but I think this (vibration feedback) is a pretty useful feature, especially for non-geeks. Remember, a lot of think a GUI on a computer isn't needed, but how many have sold since it's become that much more obvious what is going on? (true enough, price drops have helped the computer's uptake in the last 20+ years, but you get my point I hope) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than using the vibrator. But I'm not sure how you attach a piezo to the screen; maybe the idea is to just vibrate the touchscreen film so as to have lower mass. http://articles.in/?caid=Technology.23284 (on archive.org you can see the old web pages from the actual site, jackito-tda.com) On 10/1/07, Kamisamanou Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary and battery consuming On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
On 02/10/2007, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than using the vibrator. But I'm not sure how you attach a piezo to the screen; maybe the idea is to just vibrate the touchscreen film so as to have lower mass. i'm not sure that's a good idea: is the screen designed to take such repeated vibrations, they're usually pretty sensitive? imo the whole idea would get pretty annoying after the initial novelty wore off, and i'm sure most people will disable it pretty quickly ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
I'll agree with that. I actually like the vibration idea. I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a Hamony remote controller. I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone On 10/1/07, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary and battery consuming I am not sure what else is on the list, but I think this (vibration feedback) is a pretty useful feature, especially for non-geeks. Remember, a lot of think a GUI on a computer isn't needed, but how many have sold since it's become that much more obvious what is going on? (true enough, price drops have helped the computer's uptake in the last 20+ years, but you get my point I hope) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Acoustic feedback
I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Update from OpenMoko
Will I be able to use GTA02 as a phone? Or will I still be required to have the neo plugged in via usb tied to a computer and ssh in, and face east while standing on one leg to make a phone call? More direct question: What state will the software be in when the GTA02 ships? (Not that I will buy a GTA02, I am just wondering when I can use my GTA01) GTA02: -- We are entering the last phases of finalizing the design. From this point forward there are three key milestones in the life of a hardware platform: Prototype runs; a pilot run; and mass production. We have made three prototype runs to test various subsystems. Our best case analysis of the schedule indicates that GTA02 will be ready for shipment to end users in early to mid December. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
Sorry, extension 820 is the 1000Hz tone. Extension 821 is the echo test/ Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), which I think might be this. This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. This is a bug in Qtopia. Comm guy loved that one. Has been fixed. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. Known bug. Still working on this one. For whatever reasons, the modem starts spitting out junk characters. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. I haven't seen this one. I am going to issue a snapshot update, since I got audiostate switching fixed in Qtopia. Thanks for your feedback! -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), which I think might be this. This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. This is a bug in Qtopia. Comm guy loved that one. Has been fixed. The Qtopia sent DTMF digits just fine. OM won't send digits after the call has been set up. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. Known bug. Still working on this one. For whatever reasons, the modem starts spitting out junk characters. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. I haven't seen this one. I am going to issue a snapshot update, since I got audiostate switching fixed in Qtopia. Let me know if you need help with the testing. Thanks for your feedback! -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), which I think might be this. This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. This is a bug in Qtopia. Comm guy loved that one. Has been fixed. The Qtopia sent DTMF digits just fine. OM won't send digits after the call has been set up. ahha ok. gotcha. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. Known bug. Still working on this one. For whatever reasons, the modem starts spitting out junk characters. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. I haven't seen this one. I am going to issue a snapshot update, since I got audiostate switching fixed in Qtopia. Let me know if you need help with the testing. I think ScaredyCat from irc has setup snapshot image builds somewhere. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
Scaredycat's builds are at http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/. Thank you Scaredcat. Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), which I think might be this. This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. This is a bug in Qtopia. Comm guy loved that one. Has been fixed. The Qtopia sent DTMF digits just fine. OM won't send digits after the call has been set up. ahha ok. gotcha. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. Known bug. Still working on this one. For whatever reasons, the modem starts spitting out junk characters. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. I haven't seen this one. I am going to issue a snapshot update, since I got audiostate switching fixed in Qtopia. Let me know if you need help with the testing. I think ScaredyCat from irc has setup snapshot image builds somewhere. -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acoustic feedback
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 10:54 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), which I think might be this. This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. This is a bug in Qtopia. Comm guy loved that one. Has been fixed. The Qtopia sent DTMF digits just fine. OM won't send digits after the call has been set up. ahha ok. gotcha. Also OM is not able to make calls after returning from sleep mode. Known bug. Still working on this one. For whatever reasons, the modem starts spitting out junk characters. And I think the calls are not disconnecting properly--if the Neo is disconnected while the called telephone is ringing, the called telephone continues to ring. I haven't seen this one. I am going to issue a snapshot update, since I got audiostate switching fixed in Qtopia. Let me know if you need help with the testing. I think ScaredyCat from irc has setup snapshot image builds somewhere. http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ ? Think this is the one you're referring to. While we're on this topic, I just wanted to confirm if I use one of the rootfs images from ScaredyCat's buildhost, can I use this with a) the kernelfs that came with the qtopia preview snapshot and b) with one of the kernelfs snapshots from ScaredyCat's buildhost? Thanks in advance, Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
Kamisamanou Burgess wrote: I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a Hamony remote controller. I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone I don't have much use for a fancy TV remote, but I would very much like to use my phone as a remote for my Squeezebox music system (http://www.slimdevices.com/). It would be great to be able to frob the web UI while sitting on the couch, since that's a lot more expressive than slowly crawling through the two-line display on the box using the IR remote. Just because you don't want to do something with your phone doesn't mean that the rest of us share your feelings. This is open source, and it moves forward because people work on what interest them. The end result is something that's stronger for everyone. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
On 10/1/07, Uncle Kridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kamisamanou Burgess wrote: I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a Hamony remote controller. I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone I don't have much use for a fancy TV remote, but I would very much like to use my phone as a remote for my Squeezebox music system (http://www.slimdevices.com/). It would be great to be able to frob the web UI while sitting on the couch, since that's a lot more expressive than slowly crawling through the two-line display on the box using the IR remote. Just because you don't want to do something with your phone doesn't mean that the rest of us share your feelings. This is open source, and it moves forward because people work on what interest them. The end result is something that's stronger for everyone. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well put and understood. However, adding extra hardware to the phone so it can do things not within the sensibility of the majority of users is not a good practice. I too would enjoy interfacing with different devices over the internet, wifi, or bluetooth and would expect such software to be developed by someone someday. -- Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
