openmoko on the Nokia N810

2007-11-11 Thread rakshat hooja
This may be a stupid question but is it theoretically possible run openmoko
on a Nokia Internet tablet? I don't know what processor the Nokia N810 uses.
I do know that you can flash with images from maemo.org

Rakshat
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Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810

2007-11-11 Thread vivek khurana
On 11/11/07, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may be a stupid question but is it theoretically possible run openmoko
 on a Nokia Internet tablet? I don't know what processor the Nokia N810 uses.
 I do know that you can flash with images from maemo.org


 It should be possible to run openmoko on N800 with some modifications.
 Nokia n800 uses a ARM11 series processor  ( OMAP2420 by texas
intruments). So you need to build openmoko against the required
processor.

regards
VK

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Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810

2007-11-11 Thread Edwin Lock
If anyone gets openmoko to run on a nokia 770 tablet, please let me know,
that would be so cool! Just to test OM and not having to use maemo all the
time :)
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Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810

2007-11-11 Thread kenneth marken
On Sunday 11 November 2007 14:21:07 Edwin Lock wrote:
 If anyone gets openmoko to run on a nokia 770 tablet, please let me know,
 that would be so cool! Just to test OM and not having to use maemo all the
 time :)

hell, if one get a nice browser going and maybe a calendar sync, it can breath 
new life into that device ;)

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Re: Battery time

2007-11-11 Thread Peter A Trotter
  * No terminal. Ugh.

 Do you really need a terminal app on a phone?
 Most phones do not have a term on them. besides, it is opensource, so
 anyone could get one working. Any takers?


I guess most/all here are geeks. I have to admit that the first thing I want
to know before buying a new smart phone is can I use a terminal/ssh on it.
pocket putty was a blessing. But I hope much better things will come from
this project. Maybe I will try to carve out some time in December...

I'm guessing anyone into Linux is going to want this though :)

-Pete
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Release date of GTA02

2007-11-11 Thread Thomas Drewermann
Hi to all,

 

Does anyone know when the GTA02-Model will be released?

Can it be ordered or preordered anywhere at the moment?

 

Thanks.

 

BR

Thomas

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Re: Release date of GTA02

2007-11-11 Thread Edwin Lock
No, it's not known yet when the GTA-02 will be available, but it looks like
december/january. At least that's what the openmoko team is trying if I
believe rightly?
And no, it can't be preordered yet.
Hope it will be available soon :)
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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Giles Jones


On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote:


For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450.



HTC Universal?

If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as  
reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it.


It's a rather large phone, not exactly a fast device (it's a few years  
out of date now) and the final Neo device will be faster in numerous  
ways.


Perhaps a Nokia N800 or N810 is what you need at this time?


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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread andy selby
 Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that
 meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so
 please check carefully).

Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone
recommends anything but the neo1973

 As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long)
 time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional
 work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff.

Yes I can definatly recommend you buy a neo1973

 Also, if you're following up, please don't uneccesarily quote
 signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to.

O.K. I wont

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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Peter Naulls

Giles Jones wrote:


On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote:


For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450.



HTC Universal?


Yes, you snipped that part.

If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as 
reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it.


I have little interest in Windows Mobile, which is another part you
snipped.  I want Linux, probably OpenMoko.

It's a rather large phone, not exactly a fast device (it's a few years 
out of date now) and the final Neo device will be faster in numerous ways.


Well, that's the one helpful thing you posted.  But what are we talking?
Either a subjective comparison or detailed technical comparison
of processor, graphics and bus, memory speeds would be fine.


Perhaps a Nokia N800 or N810 is what you need at this time?


Or not, not having phone capabilities, which is another requirement
you snipped (Skype notwithstanding).




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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Peter Naulls

andy selby wrote:

Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that
meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so
please check carefully).


Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone
recommends anything but the neo1973


And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are
discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic)
a troll.


As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long)
time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional
work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff.


Yes I can definatly recommend you buy a neo1973


That doesn't follow at all.  What is your justification here of the Neo
over the HTC Universal in this respect?


Also, if you're following up, please don't unnecessarily quote
signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to.


O.K. I wont


Thanks, but also not snipping attribution lines would be appreciated.

If anyone has anything _constructive_ to reply with and isn't just 
replying for the sake of making noise, I'd like to hear it.   If not,

then please don't annoy others with pointless posts.





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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Mike Hodson
On Nov 11, 2007 6:50 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giles Jones wrote:
  HTC Universal?

 Yes, you snipped that part.

He snipped out you calling it a UTC Universal.

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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Mike Hodson
On Nov 11, 2007 6:55 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are
 discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic)
 a troll.

Yet by your condescending attitude you appear to be more troll-like than him.

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Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions

2007-11-11 Thread Doug Sutherland
Georg wrote:
  no only in terms of speakerphone, also the navigational software (as far
 as there'll be one) may be connected through it.. There are a lot of
 possible ways to use that extension and I personally think that it's a
 very useful additional feature .

Speaking of navigation, this is interesting, Locosys makes something
called Traffic Message Channel (TMC) using the Silicon Labs
SI4701 FM tuner RDS feature to gather real-time traffic and
weather information. They use an 8051 microcontroller to read
the RDS data from SI4701 and convert it into NMEA sentence
format, which is of course, also a format used by GPS receivers.
So, if you have onboard GPS, and bolt-on FM tuner with RDS,
and some processing, you could do something similar. The NMEA
part presumably is just to make it somewhat standard, is useful
data on its own, but this is quite interesting.

http://www.locosystech.com/download/module/TMC-1513_datasheet_v1.1.pdf

I'm going to design just a very simple breakout board for the
SI4701 to start playing around with it, this RDS stuff is very
interesting. Later will make another board with SI4701 and
small microcontroller plus audio codec. Microcontroller
will read the RDS and also control/configure the FM tuner.
Analog audio output would work alone but could also input
into Neo or other application. Currently in the middle of
switching jobs and residence though, so it may be a short
while before I get any boards made.

  -- Doug


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Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-11 Thread Peter Naulls

Mike Hodson wrote:

On Nov 11, 2007 6:55 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are
discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic)
a troll.


Yet by your condescending attitude you appear to be more troll-like than him.


Well deserved; I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation.  Was 
there any value to your content-free posts?  No.  Then you'd also

do well to say nothing instead of throwing around more accusations.

I seem to have confused this list with one where open and intelligent
discussion takes place regarding the merits or otherwise of OpenMoko
and its hardware targets.  Clearly you aren't interested in discussing
those.


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