Re: new Qtopia image

[Lorn Potter]

Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote:


Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 27, 2007, o godz 9:33 AM, przez Lorn Potter:

I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section 
of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a 
few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and timidity, 
for .wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support.


Thx for giving us notice! I am wondering if you could help me on some 
quirks that holds Qtopia one step back from being perfect :)


- Is it possible now to dial numer while viewing calls list (i.e. missed 
calls). In last image you could not do it from there - you had to select 
open contact, find desired number and select it to call.


This bug has not yet been fixed. Will keep an eye on it, though.



- How to turn off predictive keyboard? I want to use this keyboard (it 
is very nice to use with fingers) but I do not want to use english words...


When in some edit field there is a downarrow icon to the left of the 
battery status icon, you can use to switch input methods. I believe 
predictive keyboard is scheduled to use other (languages) dictionaries, 
but I am not sure.


The sources are open, so anyone with enough interest could make it that way.

- How can I use Sync Agent for qtopia 4.3? I couldn't find any 
pre-compiled version (source either). It would be perfect that I could 
find version for MacOS X.


I think Qtopia Sync Agent will only sync with Outlook. The docs are 
sparse and I have submitted a bug report about it.






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Re: BT Laptop tether profile

[Joshua Layne]

DUN (Dial up Networking) is the standard, I believe.
That gives control to the 'laptop', whereas PAN (Personal Area Network)
really just networks the two devices and doesn't necessarily provide for
connection sharing, IIRC, but this is all from memory, so I may be quite
mistaken.

HTH,
josh

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:16:25 -0700, Michael Welter
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> What BT profile is used for laptop tether?
> 
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Re: SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

[Ian Darwin]

> However, it would be nice if you could just put a sim card into the
> Neo (or other OpenMoko) phone, select "copy sim to softsim" from the
> menu, and have a software copy of the sim available in the phone.
> Then you could change back to another physical sim card, and you would
> have dual sim capability in the phone without the need for any extra
> hardware at all.

Be careful what you wish for :-) The physical SIM serves as an authentication
token, which is why they are made difficult to copy. If you lose a phone
(or an SD card) with a copy of your SIM credentials, anybody finding it can
make phone calls at your expense, and (at least in the case of the SD card)
you might not notice the loss until this problem had become very expensive.
And don't look for a freefund -- I doubt that any carrier would be at all
sympathetic to *this* sob story!


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Re: SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

On Nov 27, 2007 3:55 PM, Nkoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A previous post indicates that he's looking at ways to get a second sim card
> in the picture.
>
> I think it must be cumbersome to carry around a usb sim card reader that you
> attach and deattach each time you need the second sim. Might as well stick a
> compact second phone with a second sim card in your
> backpack/glovebox/storage unit and use bluetooth to link to the second card.
> Twould be instantaneous... always connected and no wires to mess around
> with. If symbian can do this, openmoko should be able to as well.
>
> Alternatively, you could pick up dual sim card holders on fleabay.

However, it would be nice if you could just put a sim card into the
Neo (or other OpenMoko) phone, select "copy sim to softsim" from the
menu, and have a software copy of the sim available in the phone.
Then you could change back to another physical sim card, and you would
have dual sim capability in the phone without the need for any extra
hardware at all.

Perhaps one could expand this - why settle for dual sim capability
when you could have multi sim capability?

I see a few possible obstacles:
- legal: is it ok (legally) to copy the sim? (IMHO, it should be, as
long as you are not trying to use the physical sim and the softsim
copy at the same time)
software: the OpenMoko phone stack would need the capability to handle
two (or more) sim cards at the same time. Not only being able to
receive calls for both / all sim cards automatically, but also allow
the user to select a sim card to call (or send sms messages) from, and
a way to inform the user about what sim card / phone number is being
called, in addition to who is calling.
This should be doable.

This would be a cool feature.
I know that I could definitely use the dual sim capability. I doubt
that I would have a need for multi sim capability.
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Re: Email App

[Greg Oliver]

On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 09:52 -0600, Tim Shannon wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone knows that status of an Email app.  I though
> originally there was going to be one app that handled all
> communication, SMS, internet chat, email, etc, but I haven't seen
> anything like this with the new 2007.2 framework.
> 
> Is anyone working on this, or what will the status of this app be
> around December when the gta02 (hopefully) goes up for sale?
> 
> thanks,
> 

I would really like to see an exchange connector so I can sync
contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra.  It will be hard to go back from
those niceties!

-Greg


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Re: November 26, 2007 Community Update

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks for the offer, Chris. I will ask the Wifi guy, but I think most 
of the work right now involves reading the data sheet which is under NDA 
and writing the code.


I will check.

Michael

Chris Hessing wrote:

Michael -

Thanks for the update!   Is there anything that we could do to help move 
the wifi driver along?  Or is the hold up somewhere inside Atheros or 
the madwifi team?


Thanks!

Michael Shiloh wrote:


Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:

Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
The gating factor is still the Wifi driver. We don't expect a5 to 
add much of a delay.


Michael

Felix Andersen wrote:

[snip]


So what about to have a phisical switch for the 850Mhz issue in rev05 
if it's not so complicated? Or a partial solution to that? Also if 
i'm not affected by this bug, the 5 rev may give a chance to solve it 
or to "patch" it :D


Unfortunately the 850MHz issue is more comlicated and can not be fixed 
as easily. As I mentioned in my update, we are looking into this.





Bye

Pietro

(thanks for the update!)


You're very welcome!

Michael

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Re: November 26, 2007 Community Update

[Chris Hessing]

Michael -

Thanks for the update!   Is there anything that we could do to help move 
the wifi driver along?  Or is the hold up somewhere inside Atheros or 
the madwifi team?


Thanks!

Michael Shiloh wrote:


Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:

Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
The gating factor is still the Wifi driver. We don't expect a5 to 
add much of a delay.


Michael

Felix Andersen wrote:

[snip]


So what about to have a phisical switch for the 850Mhz issue in rev05 
if it's not so complicated? Or a partial solution to that? Also if 
i'm not affected by this bug, the 5 rev may give a chance to solve it 
or to "patch" it :D


Unfortunately the 850MHz issue is more comlicated and can not be fixed 
as easily. As I mentioned in my update, we are looking into this.





Bye

Pietro

(thanks for the update!)


You're very welcome!

Michael

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BT Laptop tether profile

[Michael Welter]

What BT profile is used for laptop tether?


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Re: new Qtopia image

[Krzysztof Kajkowski]

Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 27, 2007, o godz 9:33 AM, przez Lorn  
Potter:


I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section  
of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has  
a few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and  
timidity, for .wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support.


Thx for giving us notice! I am wondering if you could help me on some  
quirks that holds Qtopia one step back from being perfect :)


- Is it possible now to dial numer while viewing calls list (i.e.  
missed calls). In last image you could not do it from there - you had  
to select open contact, find desired number and select it to call.


- How to turn off predictive keyboard? I want to use this keyboard (it  
is very nice to use with fingers) but I do not want to use english  
words...


- How can I use Sync Agent for qtopia 4.3? I couldn't find any pre- 
compiled version (source either). It would be perfect that I could  
find version for MacOS X.


Maybe some else could guide me on these topics?

I'm sory for asking on OpenMoko forum but no one answered me on Qtopia  
forum ;(


cheers

cayco
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Re: Bluetooth SIM Access Profile

[Brad Midgley]

Hi

It would be appropriate for this to be handled mostly by bluez, but
the missing piece is gsmd needs to present some APIs for sim card
access from the gsm module.

I don't see anything about it in the gsmd docs on the wiki:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd/document
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd

It will require some detailed docs on the gsm module to make it work.

On Nov 27, 2007 9:45 AM, Matthias Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> I hope, this question has not been answered elsewhere.
>
> I wonder, whether the bluetooth SIM Access Profile (SAP) will be available on
> the FIC 1973 openmoko phone.
>
> Many thanks for comments
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Re: new Qtopia image

[Lorn Potter]

Kai Winter wrote:
Very good... The SIM card seems to be recognized on every start and 
phone calls also work ;)
But still I can't create a working GPRS connection. Is this a general 
problem or am I doing something wrong?


Nope. It hasn't been implemented yet. Qtopia uses GPRS through the 
multiplexing code, which hasn't been
made working for the Neo yet. The work is still pending, I will ping the 
comm guy.




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Bluetooth SIM Access Profile

[Matthias Schulze]

Dear community,

I hope, this question has not been answered elsewhere.

I wonder, whether the bluetooth SIM Access Profile (SAP) will be available on 
the FIC 1973 openmoko phone.

Many thanks for comments


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Re: new Qtopia image

[Kai Winter]

Very good... The SIM card seems to be recognized on every start and 
phone calls also work ;)
But still I can't create a working GPRS connection. Is this a general 
problem or am I doing something wrong?



Lorn Potter schrieb:
I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section 
of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a 
few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and timidity, 
for .wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support.



If you want to compile this yourself, you will need a Qtopia 4.3.1 
snapshot from today or tomorrow (depending on when the snapshot gets 
uploaded to Oslo) edit the devices/ficgta01/configure file and change 
the line:
-eval 'if ( &$helix_visref() ) { opt("qtopiamedia") = 1; 
opt("mediaengines") = "helix"; }'

to
-qtopiamedia -mediaengines cruxus.

I suggest using this mediaengine for Qtopia instead of gstreamer, as 
it works, and is GPL'd. You can, of course, compile the Helix backend 
for yourself, which also works.


Feedback is welcome.

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Re: SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

[Nkoli]

On Nov 27, 2007 9:02 AM, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I don't know what exactly you mean under a "SIM card reader/writer", but
> the phone itself is a programmable device with a USB port and a SIM card
> slot. What other hardware do you need?
>
> A previous post indicates that he's looking at ways to get a second sim
card in the picture.

I think it must be cumbersome to carry around a usb sim card reader that you
attach and deattach each time you need the second sim. Might as well stick a
compact second phone with a second sim card in your
backpack/glovebox/storage unit and use bluetooth to link to the second card.
Twould be instantaneous... always connected and no wires to mess around
with. If symbian can do this, openmoko should be able to as well.

Alternatively, you could pick up dual sim card
holderson
fleabay.
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Re: SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

[Alexey Feldgendler]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:28:34 +0100, Arthur Marsh  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Struggling to get back on topic, a USB SIM card reader/writer that works  
under GNU/Linux with free specifications and drivers would be a great  
complement to the NEO 1973 and successors. Would FIC be in a position to  
make available such a product?


I don't know what exactly you mean under a "SIM card reader/writer", but  
the phone itself is a programmable device with a USB port and a SIM card  
slot. What other hardware do you need?



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SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

[Arthur Marsh]

Chris Hessing wrote, on 27/11/07 05:14:

I have done a little bit of work with SIM cards in Linux.  You should 
check out the PCSC project.  It isn't the easiest thing to get running, 
but it can read and write data to/from SIM cards. (Assuming you have a 
reader it supports.  I have a Towitoko Chipdrive, and a Cardman 6020 
that it works with.  I have also gotten in to work with the SIM card 
slots on the Dell D620 notebook.)  I have used these libraries to 
implement EAP-SIM and EAP-AKA functionality in XSupplicant.


I found:

http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/ccid.html

but the links to products that specifically mentioned SIM cards seemed 
to be dead )-:.



There are also cheap USB SIM readers, and I got the impression that
they could write to the card as well.  So I got one on ebay.  The
software that came with it (only for Windows) could only read the
card.  I wish there was a Linux alternative, especially one that can
also write the contacts to the SIM.  (But since the Neo itself could
do that, I guess it's no longer necessary.)


There is a product called SIM Manager from www.smartsilicon.com.au that 
is MS-Windows only, but having bought one at a run-out sale for AUD$2 it 
does read and write the phone contacts list fine under Win98SE.


Struggling to get back on topic, a USB SIM card reader/writer that works 
under GNU/Linux with free specifications and drivers would be a great 
complement to the NEO 1973 and successors. Would FIC be in a position to 
make available such a product?


Arthur.


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Re: No Android on the Neo1973 - Only MyPhone left

[Shaul Kedem]

from the faq:
Where can I find the open source components of Android?

You can find the kernel at http://git.android.com and the other
mirrored GPL and LGPL'd components at
http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list.

Notices for other licenses can be found within the SDK.




On Nov 27, 2007 10:39 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Let's look at this as a great opportunity. Presumably, all of these
> >phones will have a working linux kernel and drivers that are available
> >for them, whither the Android platform is truly open or not, surely
> >this is a big with for the OSS-phone community.
>
> This is exactly how I've been viewing the news. Companies which produce
> hardware for mobile phones (e.g. wifi chipsets, 3D accelerators) will
> now be under much greater pressure to develop Linux drivers for their
> hardware. More mobile hardware supported by Linux can only be a good
> thing!
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Germany - Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

[CiaCon]

Here 2 links, that might be interesting - This is at least my german research I 
made some time back...

http://chaosradio.ccc.de/ds2005-337.html
http://www.datenspuren.de/2005/vortraege/GSM%20Abhoeren%20Datenspuren.pdf

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-Catcher


The First 2 links belong together - They were made back in 2005 by Frank Rieger 
and are about how to pinpoint and tapp mobile phones (is slightly outdated... 
;-)  )


Another thing I managed to spot is this (this time english) --> A 
Man-in-the-Middle Attack on UMTS

http://www.cs.stevens.edu/~swetzel/publications/mim.pdf


Pls DO take a look...

Greetings, C



  

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RE: No Android on the Neo1973 - Only MyPhone left

[thomas.cooksey]

>Let's look at this as a great opportunity. Presumably, all of these
>phones will have a working linux kernel and drivers that are available
>for them, whither the Android platform is truly open or not, surely
>this is a big with for the OSS-phone community.

This is exactly how I've been viewing the news. Companies which produce
hardware for mobile phones (e.g. wifi chipsets, 3D accelerators) will
now be under much greater pressure to develop Linux drivers for their
hardware. More mobile hardware supported by Linux can only be a good
thing! 

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new Qtopia image

[Lorn Potter]

I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section of 
Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a few 
plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and timidity, for 
.wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support.



If you want to compile this yourself, you will need a Qtopia 4.3.1 
snapshot from today or tomorrow (depending on when the snapshot gets 
uploaded to Oslo) edit the devices/ficgta01/configure file and change 
the line:
-eval 'if ( &$helix_visref() ) { opt("qtopiamedia") = 1; 
opt("mediaengines") = "helix"; }'

to
-qtopiamedia -mediaengines cruxus.

I suggest using this mediaengine for Qtopia instead of gstreamer, as it 
works, and is GPL'd. You can, of course, compile the Helix backend for 
yourself, which also works.


Feedback is welcome.

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