Re: Old GPS antenna bug surfacing? [was: GPS]

[Erland Lewin]

2008/7/4 Kai Römer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I can affirm this for 6 opemoko devices. i guess its an internal
> antenna issue. as soon as you connect a external antenna to it works
> like a charm. but fur me thats no solution.
>
> TTFF with external antenna (perfect condition): 40 to 60 seconds
> TTFF with internal antenna AGPS (perfect condition): more than 1:20
> minute but not always. its like gambling.
>
> I guess a miss design of the internal antenna.


There was a thread about a very similar problem on the hardware list back in
April/May, see:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-April/55.html
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-May/000104.html

And related replies.

Was this bug/problem ever really fixed?

/Erland
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HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

[Ken Young]

Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:

> Given the freerunner hw, you can certainly do much better than that!
> I would expect something like "mathematica in your pocket"... ;-)
> (In fact, you sort of have already the rpn calculator via "dc".)

> Hey, that's what I wanted as a second project after doing the current
> "simple" calculator. But I was short of time for trying to do it (plus
> the fact that it is not easy do decide between doing something entirely
> new and porting an existing software).

I've got the x48 HP 48 series calculator emulator running on my neo1973.
It was very easy to port - I just had to re-arange the screen layout a bit
to have it fit on a VGA window, and cross compile for the ARM CPU.
A screen shot can be seen here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:HP48OnMoko.png

If you want a copy of this program, email [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and I'll mail it to you.

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RE: freerunner shipment confirmation?

[Robert Horton]

I went through the exact same process..the 500 error is because Chase blocks
the transaction. If you call the number on the back of your card they will
open the transaction and then it will go through.I doubt your order has gone
through so you won't get a confirmation.that chase email confirmation is
separate.I got it before calling Chase and removing the block due to
"abnormal activity".

 

-Robert

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:20 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: freerunner shipment confirmation?

 

Hi,

I bought freerunner few hours ago from the online shop. The transaction went
through after at least 3 different redirections for payment processing.
AFAIR, in step 1 they took my shipping information; in step 2 they directed
me to some Taiwanese site for credit card information; and I believe the 3rd
step was my credit card specific which did some kind of verification for my
Chase Visa credit card. At the end of 3rd step I got some error and couldn't
proceed or go back from there. I however received an email confirmation for
that 3rd step from Visa.

What concerns me is, I did not get any confirmation email that OpenMoko has
received my order successfully. I know the shipment hasn't started yet and
the shipment notification may come sometime later. But should I be getting
any confirmation/receipt of transaction from OpenMoko or from the third
party site that processed my order?

It has been couple of hours now. Has anyone else received
confirmation/receipt by email while placing the order (for single unit)?

Thanks,
Jayesh

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3 Little firmware questions (was: Software Status - Shall I buy or shall I wait?)

[Ingmar RIeger]

Hello,

my first questions are now more clear but three more questions came to
my mind:

1.) There seem to be three different images: the ASU, FSO and 2007.2. Is
it possible to use all on the FreeRunner having one in the Flash and the
others on the TransFlash-Card and select which one should boot in
u-boot?

2.) Is GPRS easy to use in the FR? I tried to use it in two normal
phones but it doesn't work how it should. And GPRS is important for me.

3.) Is there already a mail-client working on the FR?

Hope you can help me. When this questions are clear, I'll preorder my
FreeRunner to get it as soon as possible.

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AW: Re: packing of my freerunner`s

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

It was a link into the confirmation-mail from trisoft...


TRIsoft-Package-Video verfügbar !
Wie Ihre Sendung gepackt wurde, können Sie sich hier ansehen:
Link : http://www.trisoft.de/videos/xx.avi 
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Betreff: Re: packing of my freerunner`s

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
> there is a short video from the packing-process of my freerunner`s... :-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlyR7u-zhI
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How did you get that video?
me wants to see my neo getting packed :(

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Re: Openexpo 2008 Zürich, Switzerland

[einstein]

Hi Andreas,

i want to help :) if i can*g*

I am from Germany, near Stuttgart. I will help you to informing the 
visitors about this great thing...

Greets to swiss

Stefan

www.freeyourphone.de

Andreas Zuber wrote:
> Dear Community
>
> There will be a Openmoko booth at the next Openexpo in Zürich. I'll be there, 
> and this year i'll not walk away all the time like in Bern. And i also hope i 
> get a smaller notebook for the Openexpo that fits on the table :-)
>
> Are there other people from the commuinity that may help informing the 
> visitors about this greatest mobile phone of all mobile phones?
>
> Date and Location: 24./25. September 2008  Eulachhallen Winterthur/Zürich, 
> Switzerland
>
> Hope i see you all there
>   
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Re: 3 Little firmware questions (was: Software Status - Shall I buy or shall I wait?)

[arne anka]

> 1.) There seem to be three different images: the ASU, FSO and 2007.2. Is
> it possible to use all on the FreeRunner having one in the Flash and the
> others on the TransFlash-Card and select which one should boot in
> u-boot?

two at most with little effort:
- one in nand
- one on sd card

> 2.) Is GPRS easy to use in the FR? I tried to use it in two normal
> phones but it doesn't work how it should. And GPRS is important for me.

dunno. the symbol indicating gprs being available i sdisplayed but i did  
not find any way to disable it. probably by echoing smth into /sys/...

> 3.) Is there already a mail-client working on the FR?

there is a package python-email, but it probably only offers a library.  
need to check today.


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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[arne anka]

>   Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT
> people about it they admitted
> This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones,

are there any specific parameters? version numbers or so one could give to  
the people at e-plus, thus shortening the number of changes and repeated  
calls?

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applying screen protector

[arne anka]

hi,
after a sight seeing tour cross town ups gave my om on thursday, yesterday  
they dropped off the parcel!
now, i'd like to apply a screen protector -- how do i disassemble the  
freerunner so the protector fits the whole screen?
i found
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973
but two questions remain:
- do the steps apply to the freerunenr as well?
- which screws are to be removed? the two right and left of the lanyard  
hole? one has a sticker on top -- what does that mean?

regards

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Re: Shipping to canada...

[arne anka]

> Did I mention UPS suck?

i second that ...

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Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

[Diego Fdez.]

Hi all!

 At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good
portable bluetooth keyboard.

 What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W?


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Re: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

[Rob Tymensen]

Hi Ben,

If you've still got a spot open then I'm in...
I'm assuming it's group 2 under Vancouver on the wiki, so I'll add myself there.

Please confirm.

Regards,

-Rob Tymensen

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> Hi Everyone,
>
> We've got a group sale with 4 spots left for Vancouver, BC.  If anyone
> would like to join, please send me an e-mail and sign up on the
> GroupSales wiki.
>
> Best Regards,
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Dual Band GSM

[Sean Lynch]

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko phone?
It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or in Europe.

Best Regards,
Sean Lynch
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Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

[Jay Vaughan]

> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good
> portable bluetooth keyboard.
> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W?
>


I had some great sessions with my Apple Wireless KB and the neo1973 ..

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Re: Dual Band GSM

[arne anka]

> Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko  
> phone?
> It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or in Europe.

it would neither in the us nor in europe work sufficently -- both use 1800  
resp 1900, too. so the phone would stop working ever now and then.
what you want is quadband.


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Re: Dual Band GSM

[Mikko Rauhala]

la, 2008-07-05 kello 14:01 +0200, Sean Lynch kirjoitti:
> Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko
> phone? It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or
> in Europe.

You're confused. The phones are triband 850/1800/1900 and 900/1800/1900,
called 850 and 900 models for short because that's where they differ.
(In hindsight, this probably invites the confusion for people who don't
know GSM.)

The upshot, generalizing horribly much, is that either phone will work
on both sides of the pond in densely populated areas (where 1800/1900
service is common), but not necessarily in the more rural areas of the
"wrong" side (where 850/900 is commonly needed).

One _does_ hope future models will be quad for increased flexibility
(GTA03?).

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Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

[Federico Lorenzi]

You could probably use a mouse with it too. What would also be
interesting to see is if a bluetooth keyboard uses more or less power
then one connected via usb.

On 7/5/08, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good
>> portable bluetooth keyboard.
>> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W?
>>
>
>
> I had some great sessions with my Apple Wireless KB and the neo1973 ..
>
> ;
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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Federico Lorenzi]

163 dollars for shipping to South Africa... Any reason USPS isn't offered?

On 7/5/08, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Did I mention UPS suck?
>
> i second that ...
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Re: Dual Band GSM

[Sean Lynch]

On Jul 5, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mikko Rauhala wrote:

> la, 2008-07-05 kello 14:01 +0200, Sean Lynch kirjoitti:
>> Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko
>> phone? It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or
>> in Europe.
>
> You're confused. The phones are triband 850/1800/1900 and  
> 900/1800/1900,
> called 850 and 900 models for short because that's where they differ.
> (In hindsight, this probably invites the confusion for people who  
> don't
> know GSM.)
>
> The upshot, generalizing horribly much, is that either phone will work
> on both sides of the pond in densely populated areas (where 1800/1900
> service is common), but not necessarily in the more rural areas of the
> "wrong" side (where 850/900 is commonly needed).
>
> One _does_ hope future models will be quad for increased flexibility
> (GTA03?).

You're right I was confused. Thank you for clearing that up for me!

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Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

[Stroller]

On 4 Jul 2008, at 23:19, Jayesh Salvi wrote:
... I believe the 3rd step was my credit card specific which did  
some kind of verification for my Chase Visa credit card.


This is quite common - I've known UK Visa cards to do the same thing.  
I never quite grok the security logic of taking you to a Visa site  
and getting you to enter your date of birth, mothers' maiden name &c  
*during* a transaction (which they always do the first time you use a  
card). If the card-provider wishes to something unique during credit- 
card transactions then the authentication should be set up in ADVANCE.


At the end of 3rd step I got some error and couldn't proceed or go  
back from there. I however received an email confirmation for that  
3rd step from Visa.


What concerns me is, I did not get any confirmation email that  
OpenMoko has received my order successfully. ... But should I be  
getting any confirmation/receipt of transaction from OpenMoko or  
from the third party site that processed my order?


Was it really necessary to post this question to the list? Couldn't  
you have just emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead?


I appreciate that Openmoko has these great community lists to make  
use of, but this seems to me to be a standard ordering enquiry. In  
the case of a credit card transaction query when ordering from any  
other online shop, you'd just email them direct.


Stroller.

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Re: HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

[Sander van Grieken]

On Saturday 05 July 2008 09:34:55 Ken Young wrote:
> I've got the x48 HP 48 series calculator emulator running on my neo1973.
> It was very easy to port - I just had to re-arange the screen layout a bit
> to have it fit on a VGA window, and cross compile for the ARM CPU.
> A screen shot can be seen here:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:HP48OnMoko.png
>
> If you want a copy of this program, email [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> and I'll mail it to you.

Great work!

Maybe you can mail the patch to the (devel) mailinglist, or even create a 
bitbake recipe.

grtz,
Sander

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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Ian Darwin]

On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:57:24PM -0600, Matthias Stone wrote:
> 
>These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you
>for your replies)
> 
>a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any
>taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from [1]openmoko.com webstore)

Usually. Sometimes you get lucky and CRA misses a shipment, but don't count on 
it.
I had an early access Freerunner shipped to me, and it came right through, but I
got an "customs tax" invoice from DHL a month later.

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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Arne Zachlod]

Hi all,
I get my new SIM today per post and it works fine. But I have to say- an 
1.5 year old SIM card isn't old in my eyes!! that can't be the solution 
for everyone- to get a new SIM, so you have to bring out a patch for 
this issue. because most customers won't accept that they have to get 
(or buy) a new sim-card. Even not when they recognise that older 
sim-cards work (oldest card i have put in was a 8 years old 2G card).

bye, Arne


steve schrieb:
> Arne,
>
>   Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT
> people about it they admitted
> This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, especially
> is the SIM was purchased
> In an phone under contract.
>
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
>
> i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in
> all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there
> HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could
> be wrong.
> I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. 
> Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me.
>
> bye, Arne
>
>
> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>   
>> Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information.
>>
>> If your card is more than a few months old it would be very 
>> interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the 
>> provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it 
>>> works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with 
>>> the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. 
>>> really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will 
>>> go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with 
>>> changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait 
>>> for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the 
>>> english word for
>>> that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change 
>>> my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or 
>>> getting a working SIM Card.
>>>
>>> Regards, Arne
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kluge schrieb:
>>> 
>>>   
 Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM 
 card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 
 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a 
 freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more
 
> expensive.
>   
 Michael

 Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
   
   
 
> Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany?
> Need to get some information here.
>
> Michael
>
> Arne Zachlod wrote:
> 
> 
>   
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany.
>>
>> Arne
>>
>> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi Arne,
>>>
>>> Who is your network provider?
>>> Where are you located?
>>>
>>> Michael?
>>>
>>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
 Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G 
 card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is 
 unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, 
 then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). 
 but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem.
 and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too.
 i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log 
 file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my
 
> question is:
>   
 does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card?

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Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

[Søren Kristiansen]

Looks like the invisibleShield for the freerunner is done. It's listed on
their website:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I'm definitely going to buy one :-)

2008/7/4 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Cédric Berger ha scritto:
> > Peter Naulls wrote:
> >> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> >>> Yorick Matthys wrote:
>  Are there other persons interested in buying one?
> >>> I do :P
> >>>
>  We could ask them to make one for the Freerunner.
> >>> Did you see this: http://tinyurl.com/6rmj5j :)
> >>>
> >> Also:
> >>
> http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=openmoko&category0=
> >
> > Perfect ! I was just going to order an invisibleShield, choosing one
> > for a phone with similar size, (I was ready to cut it to adjust...)
> >
> > But :
> > - is full body coverage made up from different parts  (screen / body)
> > ? I don't think it is possible to cover both with the same sheet (not
> > flat)
>
> I figure it's divided, however I juts wanted a screen prtector :P
>
> > - is screen sheet a bit larger (or smaller), or exactly at the size of
> > the visible part of the screen ?
>
> I don't really know, but since they should have the CAD files I hope
> they'll made the right size.
>
> > I thought I'd better put a sheet a bit larger on the naked LCD, by
> > first putting off the case of the Freerunner... with the added
> > advantage to have the sheet acting as a joint for dust/water drops...
>
> Yes, that's right... I'd prefer also a protector a little bigger, to be
> put under the top cover.
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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Dean Bennett]

You should know that there is a group buy for Alberta getting organized 
right, and we could use 1 or 2 more people.
Taxes apply, duty might, and the couriers all may charge brokerage 
fees.  UPS really sucks in this regard.
One of the members of the group has offered to do the paperwork, so no 
brokerage fees.
 I think that the order has already been placed, so let me know if you 
are interested, and I can put you in touch with the group.

Dean

Matthias Stone wrote:
> These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you 
> for your replies)
>  
> a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any 
> taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com 
>  webstore)
>  
> b)  How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the 
> normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate?
>  
> Thanks,
> Matthias Stone
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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Steven Kurylo]

> Taxes apply, duty might, and the couriers all may charge brokerage
> fees.  UPS really sucks in this regard.
> One of the members of the group has offered to do the paperwork, so no
> brokerage fees.

For a single phone the fees are $50.  However if you chose the more
expense shipping method from openmoko, $50 extra, you don't pay the
fees.

http://www.ups.com/content/ca/en/shipping/cost/zones/customs_clearance.html

So in the end its the same amount of money, but you get your phone much faster.

There will be GST, but I don't know what duties their may be.

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Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

[Flyin_bbb8]

But its good sharing this kind of information, if the person
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will have to reply to each enquiry they will not have
time to work :) , this way others also see the answer and good for all
of us that didnt order yet (waiting for 900 mhz in openmoko shop)

On 7/5/08, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4 Jul 2008, at 23:19, Jayesh Salvi wrote:
>> ... I believe the 3rd step was my credit card specific which did
>> some kind of verification for my Chase Visa credit card.
>
> This is quite common - I've known UK Visa cards to do the same thing.
> I never quite grok the security logic of taking you to a Visa site
> and getting you to enter your date of birth, mothers' maiden name &c
> *during* a transaction (which they always do the first time you use a
> card). If the card-provider wishes to something unique during credit-
> card transactions then the authentication should be set up in ADVANCE.
>
>> At the end of 3rd step I got some error and couldn't proceed or go
>> back from there. I however received an email confirmation for that
>> 3rd step from Visa.
>>
>> What concerns me is, I did not get any confirmation email that
>> OpenMoko has received my order successfully. ... But should I be
>> getting any confirmation/receipt of transaction from OpenMoko or
>> from the third party site that processed my order?
>
> Was it really necessary to post this question to the list? Couldn't
> you have just emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead?
>
> I appreciate that Openmoko has these great community lists to make
> use of, but this seems to me to be a standard ordering enquiry. In
> the case of a credit card transaction query when ordering from any
> other online shop, you'd just email them direct.
>
> Stroller.
>
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on screen keyboard?

[arne anka]

hi,
somebody asked thsi already a while ago (but got no answer):
is there a package available providing a better keyboard than that  
included w/ the freerunner, resembling a multi tap phone keyboard?
honestly, i can't figure out a rationale for spending effort on  
implementing such a limited keyboard, it even misses crucial characters!

so, is there a fullblown keyboard (hopefully with up/down and tab, so one  
can sroll in hitory and use completion)?
opkg list | grep keyboard
gives only matchbox-strokes which looks nice but is not really functional  
...

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Re: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

[Ben Cadieux]

Hi Rob,

It didn't work out since the group wasn't full when sales started; not
sure if anyone in the group didn't buy direct.

Best Regards,
Ben Cadieux


On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Rob Tymensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> If you've still got a spot open then I'm in...
> I'm assuming it's group 2 under Vancouver on the wiki, so I'll add myself 
> there.
>
> Please confirm.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob Tymensen
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> We've got a group sale with 4 spots left for Vancouver, BC.  If anyone
>> would like to join, please send me an e-mail and sign up on the
>> GroupSales wiki.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ben Cadieux
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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Al Johnson]

On Saturday 05 July 2008, arne anka wrote:
> hi,
> somebody asked thsi already a while ago (but got no answer):
> is there a package available providing a better keyboard than that
> included w/ the freerunner, resembling a multi tap phone keyboard?
> honestly, i can't figure out a rationale for spending effort on
> implementing such a limited keyboard, it even misses crucial characters!

You can at least modify the character map for the multitap keyboard - it's in 
etc/multitap-pad/im-multipress.conf
You can add printing characters like slashes, pipe and so on. Not ideal but at 
least a bit more useful.

> so, is there a fullblown keyboard (hopefully with up/down and tab, so one
> can sroll in hitory and use completion)?
> opkg list | grep keyboard
> gives only matchbox-strokes which looks nice but is not really functional

I found the same as you last night. I was trying to follow the instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards
I've just used mokomakefile to build the packages:
make build-package-matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
I'll let you know how I get on...

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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Federico Lorenzi]

Afaik raster was working on a magic keyboard that had all sorts of
cool features.

On 7/5/08, Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 05 July 2008, arne anka wrote:
>> hi,
>> somebody asked thsi already a while ago (but got no answer):
>> is there a package available providing a better keyboard than that
>> included w/ the freerunner, resembling a multi tap phone keyboard?
>> honestly, i can't figure out a rationale for spending effort on
>> implementing such a limited keyboard, it even misses crucial characters!
>
> You can at least modify the character map for the multitap keyboard - it's
> in
> etc/multitap-pad/im-multipress.conf
> You can add printing characters like slashes, pipe and so on. Not ideal but
> at
> least a bit more useful.
>
>> so, is there a fullblown keyboard (hopefully with up/down and tab, so one
>> can sroll in hitory and use completion)?
>> opkg list | grep keyboard
>> gives only matchbox-strokes which looks nice but is not really functional
>
> I found the same as you last night. I was trying to follow the instructions
> at
>   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards
> I've just used mokomakefile to build the packages:
>   make build-package-matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
> I'll let you know how I get on...
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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Al Johnson]

On Saturday 05 July 2008, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
> Afaik raster was working on a magic keyboard that had all sorts of
> cool features.

I think that's the one in the qtopia-x11 image. I was wondering whether it 
would work in the gtk image, but haven't tried yet.

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Re: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

[Rob Tymensen]

OK, thx anyways...

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> It didn't work out since the group wasn't full when sales started; not
> sure if anyone in the group didn't buy direct.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ben Cadieux
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Rob Tymensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> If you've still got a spot open then I'm in...
>> I'm assuming it's group 2 under Vancouver on the wiki, so I'll add myself 
>> there.
>>
>> Please confirm.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob Tymensen
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> We've got a group sale with 4 spots left for Vancouver, BC.  If anyone
>>> would like to join, please send me an e-mail and sign up on the
>>> GroupSales wiki.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ben Cadieux
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internet connection via USB

[simarillion]

Hi,


I'm trying to connect to internet via USB. I followed this howto 
http://openmoko.togaware.com/survivor/Network_Setup.html but unfortunately 
without success. No error appeared but I have no ping to the internet.  I'm 
running Kubuntu 8.04. The router my Notebook is connected to has the IP adress 
192.168.2.1 and my Notebook has 192.168.2.102.
I don't know which addresses in the howto I have to change.
Can you help me?


Thanks
Michael
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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Michael Kluge]

Is xvkbd an option? I did not check the dependencies yet.

Michael
> On Saturday 05 July 2008, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
>   
>> Afaik raster was working on a magic keyboard that had all sorts of
>> cool features.
>> 
>
> I think that's the one in the qtopia-x11 image. I was wondering whether it 
> would work in the gtk image, but haven't tried yet.
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Re: internet connection via USB

[arne anka]

i followed
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
and it works well.
two things are important:
- make sure nat'ing works (iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s  
192.168.0.0/24)
- bear in mind that /etc/resolv.conf of the om does not necessarily allow  
name resolution. it contains only 192.168.0.200 as nameserver which  
usually will not work. add the ip of your router (if it does name  
resolution) or any other nameserver (from your host's resolv.conf) and  
remember that every reboot of the om resets the resolv.conf


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RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Kevin Zuber]

Hi,

now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work.
Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it.
Same again. It doesn't want my pin.
I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that
it is the newest simcard they have.
So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution.

Here is the AT command stuff:
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

AT
STR=`AT'
RSTR=`OK'
AT+CFUN=1
STR=`AT+CFUN=1'
RSTR=`OK'
AT+CPIN?
STR=`AT+CPIN?'
RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN'
AT+CPIN="MyPIN"
STR=`AT+CPIN="MyPIN"'
RSTR=`OK'
AT+CPIN?
STR=`AT+CPIN?'
RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN'
AT+CREG=1
STR=`AT+CREG=1'
RSTR=`OK'
AT+COPS=0
STR=`AT+COPS=0'
EVENT: Netreg searching for network 
EVENT: Netreg registration denied 
cme error: 32
RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32'
EVENT: Signal Quality: 31
EVENT: Signal Quality: 31
-

>On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:29:31 Arne Zachlod wrote:
>
>> AT+CPIN=
>
>Try with quotes, AT+CPIN="" and according to GSM 07.07 CME ERROR. The 
>general error 3 is "operation not allowed".
>
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Re: internet connection via USB

[Sander van Grieken]

On Saturday 05 July 2008 20:13:08 simarillion wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm trying to connect to internet via USB. I followed this howto
> http://openmoko.togaware.com/survivor/Network_Setup.html but unfortunately
> without success. No error appeared but I have no ping to the internet.  I'm
> running Kubuntu 8.04. The router my Notebook is connected to has the IP
> adress 192.168.2.1 and my Notebook has 192.168.2.102.
> I don't know which addresses in the howto I have to change.

Only the nameserver IP (copy that from the /etc/resolv.conf file on your 
notebook)


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Battery driver problems?

[Tobias Diedrich]

Hi,

I'm having trouble with the battery, is there maybe a newer kernel
somewhere?
The kernel complains:
|May 20 12:48:15 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to 
report `current_now' property
|May 20 12:48:16 om-gta02 daemon.alert apmd[1286]: Warning: BATTERY IS LOW
|May 20 12:48:17 om-gta02 daemon.alert apmd[1286]: Warning: Battery: 0%, 
discharging (+0% over 0:00:17)
|May 20 12:48:19 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to 
report `time_to_empty_now' property

This is despite the device being plugged into usb (and display off,
logged in via ssh).

Kernel is "Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jul 5 01:18:58
CEST 2008 armv4tl unknown" of http://downloads.openmoko.org/asu/,
after 'opkg upgrade'.

/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat says:
capacity: 0
charge_full: 1223082
current_now: 2437
present: 1
status: Discharging
technology: Li-ion
temp: 346
time_to_empty_now: 0
time_to_full_now: 3932100
type: Battery
voltage_now: 3778000

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Re: internet connection via USB

[simarillion]

Thank you very much now it works.


I had to copy the ip of my router to /etc/resolv.conf - That's it



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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Jay Vaughan]

> Afaik raster was working on a magic keyboard that had all sorts of
> cool features.



hope he releases it soon!

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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Steven Kurylo]

> now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work.
> Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it.
> Same again. It doesn't want my pin.
> I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that
> it is the newest simcard they have.
> So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution.

Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32
which is "Network not allowed, emergency calls only".  I'm no gsm
expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim
card.  Try the new sim card in a different phone?  Or double check
with O2 that the new sim card has been activated.

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Re: on screen keyboard?

[Clare]

Once upon a time it was possible on a Neo1973 to use a "terminal"
which made Linux functionality available. For that you need not only
the occasional slash or special text character, but Esc, Alt, and a
set of  characters. I am still hoping for an old-fashioned
qwerty keyboard for that reason.
clare


On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Afaik raster was working on a magic keyboard that had all sorts of
>> cool features.
>
>
>
> hope he releases it soon!
>
> ;
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WLAN not working

[Christoph Anton Mitterer]

Hi.

I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)

Flashed it to the most recent version
(http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
wlan0 No such device

udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 


And when I use the following config:
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface wlan0 inet dhcp 
wpa-ssid "scientia.net" 
wpa-psk "secret" 
#wpa-scan-ssid 1

# Wireless interfaces
#iface wlan0 inet dhcp
#wireless_mode managed
#wireless_essid any
iface atml0 inet dhcp

# Wired or wireless interfaces
iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth1 inet dhcp

# Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
# ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
auto usb0
iface usb0 inet static
address 192.168.200.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.200.0
gateway 192.168.200.1
up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf

# Bluetooth networking
iface bnep0 inet dhcp


I get this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
WPA: Configuring Interface
ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
Could not configure driver to use managed mode
ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
FAILED
Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
directory
ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
wlan0 No such device

udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 



Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris.


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Re: WLAN not working

[Seattle Web Creations, LLC]

Isn't it suppose to be ifconfig eth0 up for that card since it is a hardmac
chip?

Also I'm not sure because I get my FR on ~ Monday, but maybe you have to
modprobe the driver?

On 7/5/08 12:52 PM, "Christoph Anton Mitterer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
> 
> Flashed it to the most recent version
> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> wlan0 No such device
> 
> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
> 
> 
> And when I use the following config:
> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> 
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> wpa-ssid "scientia.net"
> wpa-psk "secret"
> #wpa-scan-ssid 1
> 
> # Wireless interfaces
> #iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> #wireless_mode managed
> #wireless_essid any
> iface atml0 inet dhcp
> 
> # Wired or wireless interfaces
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> iface eth1 inet dhcp
> 
> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
> auto usb0
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 192.168.200.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.200.0
> gateway 192.168.200.1
> up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf
> 
> # Bluetooth networking
> iface bnep0 inet dhcp
> 
> 
> I get this:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> WPA: Configuring Interface
> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
> FAILED
> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
> directory
> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> wlan0 No such device
> 
> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.

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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Kevin Zuber]

Thanks for your reply, but the AT command was on the old (card was from
decembre 07 - not so old), 100% working card (working on other phone). I
haven't test it in the new one in the command line, because it's not
activated already, but it must take the sim and then say "not activated or
so..". (regarding to the men in the o2 shop)

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:57 -0700, "Steven Kurylo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work.
>> Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried
> it.
>> Same again. It doesn't want my pin.
>> I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said
> that
>> it is the newest simcard they have.
>> So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution.
> 
> Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32
> which is "Network not allowed, emergency calls only".  I'm no gsm
> expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim
> card.  Try the new sim card in a different phone?  Or double check
> with O2 that the new sim card has been activated.
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Re: WLAN not working

[Alexander Paersch]

On my FR it is device eth0. I'm using my own build of 2007.2.

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:52:16 +0200
> Subject: WLAN not working
> Hi.
>
> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
>
> Flashed it to the most recent version
> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
>SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
>SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> wlan0 No such device
>
> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device

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Re: WLAN not working

[Flyin_bbb8]

iwconfig? Or
iwlist scanning?

On 7/5/08, Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
>
> Flashed it to the most recent version
> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> wlan0 No such device
>
> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
>
> And when I use the following config:
> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
>
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> wpa-ssid "scientia.net"
> wpa-psk "secret"
> #wpa-scan-ssid 1
>
> # Wireless interfaces
> #iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> #wireless_mode managed
> #wireless_essid any
> iface atml0 inet dhcp
>
> # Wired or wireless interfaces
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> iface eth1 inet dhcp
>
> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
> auto usb0
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 192.168.200.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.200.0
> gateway 192.168.200.1
> up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf
>
> # Bluetooth networking
> iface bnep0 inet dhcp
>
>
> I get this:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> WPA: Configuring Interface
> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
> FAILED
> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
> directory
> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> wlan0 No such device
>
> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
>

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Re: WLAN not working

[Alexander Paersch]

iwlist scanning works for me. I followed this guide:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> iwconfig? Or
> iwlist scanning?
>
> On 7/5/08, Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
>>
>> Flashed it to the most recent version
>> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
>> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
>> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
>> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
>> wlan0 No such device
>>
>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>>
>>
>> And when I use the following config:
>> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
>>
>> # The loopback interface
>> auto lo
>> iface lo inet loopback
>>
>> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>> wpa-ssid "scientia.net"
>> wpa-psk "secret"
>> #wpa-scan-ssid 1
>>
>> # Wireless interfaces
>> #iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>> #wireless_mode managed
>> #wireless_essid any
>> iface atml0 inet dhcp
>>
>> # Wired or wireless interfaces
>> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>> iface eth1 inet dhcp
>>
>> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
>> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
>> auto usb0
>> iface usb0 inet static
>> address 192.168.200.2
>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>> network 192.168.200.0
>> gateway 192.168.200.1
>> up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf
>>
>> # Bluetooth networking
>> iface bnep0 inet dhcp
>>
>>
>> I get this:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
>> WPA: Configuring Interface
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
>> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
>> Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
>> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
>> wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
>> FAILED
>> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
>> directory
>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
>> wlan0 No such device
>>
>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris.
>>
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New Wiki Page: Latest Images

[Brian C]

2007.2, ASU, FSO, SHR -- if you're head is starting to spin at the
options available on an open platform, then, like me, you need a summary
of all these in one place that includes links to the files for the brave
and links to screenshots and/or videos for the merely curious.

Thus, I tried to resolve my own confusion by creating this wiki page:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images

I'm only partially confident that it is accurate, and I'm sure it's
incomplete in that there are probably other good sets of screenshots or
videos out there that I don't know about.

Also, I've heard of Scaredycat images and trolltech ones that I know
nothing about and hence didn't list.

But that's why it's a wiki!  Please improve and enjoy.

Brian

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Re: WLAN not working

[flexd]

After some test and error on my FR, i have come to the conclusion that 
encryption (any type of encryption) does not work on the FR (atleast not 
the image it comes with), this seems to be either a kernel 
bug/misconfiguration or a problem with wpa_supplicant itself, it seems 
to be using PRISM2 drivers? But the card is atheros is it not?

I am able to connect to open networks both the normal way (with 
iwconfig) and with wpa_supplicant,  however connecting to encrypted 
networks has proven unsuccessful as wpa_supplicant complains about 
setting the encryption with this message repeatedly:

ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_HOSTAPD]: Operation not supported

Not sure what's going on, maybe someone with a bit more info could 
reply.. :)

Regards

Kristoffer

Alexander Paersch skrev:
> iwlist scanning works for me. I followed this guide:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> iwconfig? Or
>> iwlist scanning?
>>
>> On 7/5/08, Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
>>>
>>> Flashed it to the most recent version
>>> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
>>> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
>>> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
>>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
>>> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
>>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
>>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
>>> wlan0 No such device
>>>
>>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>>>
>>>
>>> And when I use the following config:
>>> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
>>>
>>> # The loopback interface
>>> auto lo
>>> iface lo inet loopback
>>>
>>> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>>> wpa-ssid "scientia.net"
>>> wpa-psk "secret"
>>> #wpa-scan-ssid 1
>>>
>>> # Wireless interfaces
>>> #iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>>> #wireless_mode managed
>>> #wireless_essid any
>>> iface atml0 inet dhcp
>>>
>>> # Wired or wireless interfaces
>>> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>>> iface eth1 inet dhcp
>>>
>>> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
>>> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
>>> auto usb0
>>> iface usb0 inet static
>>> address 192.168.200.2
>>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>>> network 192.168.200.0
>>> gateway 192.168.200.1
>>> up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf
>>>
>>> # Bluetooth networking
>>> iface bnep0 inet dhcp
>>>
>>>
>>> I get this:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
>>> WPA: Configuring Interface
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
>>> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
>>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
>>> Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
>>> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>>> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
>>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>>> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
>>> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
>>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
>>> wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
>>> FAILED
>>> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
>>> directory
>>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
>>> wlan0 No such device
>>>
>>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris.
>>>
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Re: WLAN not working

[arne anka]

well, i did an
opkg update && opkg upgrade
earlier (incl reboot -- new kernel) and it worked with wpa.

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discount on invisibleshield protectors

[Flyin_bbb8]

Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone almost
in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from invisibleshield
and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just contact me, come first , get
first :p
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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Michael Shiloh]

Steven Kurylo wrote:
>> now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work.
>> Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it.
>> Same again. It doesn't want my pin.
>> I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that
>> it is the newest simcard they have.
>> So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution.
> 
> Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32
> which is "Network not allowed, emergency calls only".  I'm no gsm
> expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim
> card.  Try the new sim card in a different phone?  Or double check
> with O2 that the new sim card has been activated.

Good theory - Ian, didn't we have this problem with your SIM card at SCALE?

I've used prepaid SIM cards with good results - I always test in the 
store before I leave, for this very reason.

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Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

[Joseph Jon Booker]

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:23:37 +0300
Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone
> almost in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from
> invisibleshield and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just
> contact me, come first , get first :p

Same with my discount codes (same discount was given to pc world
readers).

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Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

[Jayesh Salvi]

Thanks all.

Robert you are exactly right. After I had posted to the list, I went to the
gas station to fill some gas in my car. The pump declined to accept my
credit card. So I called the number at the back of the credit card and I got
the same block-due-to-abnormal-activity message. And the automated voice
also activated my card. I used it successfully at a store in few minutes.

I am going to place my order again now. I hope this time it goes through,
else I don't have any other visa card and openmoko store doesn't accept
amex.

Thanks again.
Jayesh

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But its good sharing this kind of information, if the person
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] will have to reply to each enquiry they will not have
> time to work :) , this way others also see the answer and good for all
> of us that didnt order yet (waiting for 900 mhz in openmoko shop)
>
> On 7/5/08, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 4 Jul 2008, at 23:19, Jayesh Salvi wrote:
> >> ... I believe the 3rd step was my credit card specific which did
> >> some kind of verification for my Chase Visa credit card.
> >
> > This is quite common - I've known UK Visa cards to do the same thing.
> > I never quite grok the security logic of taking you to a Visa site
> > and getting you to enter your date of birth, mothers' maiden name &c
> > *during* a transaction (which they always do the first time you use a
> > card). If the card-provider wishes to something unique during credit-
> > card transactions then the authentication should be set up in ADVANCE.
> >
> >> At the end of 3rd step I got some error and couldn't proceed or go
> >> back from there. I however received an email confirmation for that
> >> 3rd step from Visa.
> >>
> >> What concerns me is, I did not get any confirmation email that
> >> OpenMoko has received my order successfully. ... But should I be
> >> getting any confirmation/receipt of transaction from OpenMoko or
> >> from the third party site that processed my order?
> >
> > Was it really necessary to post this question to the list? Couldn't
> > you have just emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead?
> >
> > I appreciate that Openmoko has these great community lists to make
> > use of, but this seems to me to be a standard ordering enquiry. In
> > the case of a credit card transaction query when ordering from any
> > other online shop, you'd just email them direct.
> >
> > Stroller.
> >
> >
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Re: WLAN not working

[Al Johnson]

I am using WPA-PSK successfully on the Freerunner using a simple 
wpa_supplicant.conf and one extra line in /etc/network/interfaces as 
described at the end of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan 
It is on interface eth0 and the driver is compiled into the kernel rather than 
being a module.

I haven't tried this with the original image, but it has worked on every other 
image I've tried. The original image may be using an older wpa_supplicant 
version where the default driver was hostap (for prism2) not wext as it is in 
the current images. If so then you either need to supply the option -Dwext on 
the wpa_supplicant command line, or add an extra line 
to /etc/network/interfaces under the wpa-config one:
wpa-driver wext

On Saturday 05 July 2008, flexd wrote:
> After some test and error on my FR, i have come to the conclusion that
> encryption (any type of encryption) does not work on the FR (atleast not
> the image it comes with), this seems to be either a kernel
> bug/misconfiguration or a problem with wpa_supplicant itself, it seems
> to be using PRISM2 drivers? But the card is atheros is it not?
>
> I am able to connect to open networks both the normal way (with
> iwconfig) and with wpa_supplicant,  however connecting to encrypted
> networks has proven unsuccessful as wpa_supplicant complains about
> setting the encryption with this message repeatedly:
>
> ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_HOSTAPD]: Operation not supported
>
> Not sure what's going on, maybe someone with a bit more info could
> reply.. :)
>
> Regards
>
> Kristoffer
>
> Alexander Paersch skrev:
> > iwlist scanning works for me. I followed this guide:
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> iwconfig? Or
> >> iwlist scanning?
> >>
> >> On 7/5/08, Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-)
> >>>
> >>> Flashed it to the most recent version
> >>> (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)...
> >>> Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> >>> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> >>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> >>> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
> >>> SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
> >>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> >>> wlan0 No such device
> >>>
> >>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And when I use the following config:
> >>> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> >>>
> >>> # The loopback interface
> >>> auto lo
> >>> iface lo inet loopback
> >>>
> >>> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> >>> wpa-ssid "scientia.net"
> >>> wpa-psk "secret"
> >>> #wpa-scan-ssid 1
> >>>
> >>> # Wireless interfaces
> >>> #iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> >>> #wireless_mode managed
> >>> #wireless_essid any
> >>> iface atml0 inet dhcp
> >>>
> >>> # Wired or wireless interfaces
> >>> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> >>> iface eth1 inet dhcp
> >>>
> >>> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
> >>> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
> >>> auto usb0
> >>> iface usb0 inet static
> >>> address 192.168.200.2
> >>> netmask 255.255.255.0
> >>> network 192.168.200.0
> >>> gateway 192.168.200.1
> >>> up echo nameserver 192.168.200.1 >/etc/resolv.conf
> >>>
> >>> # Bluetooth networking
> >>> iface bnep0 inet dhcp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I get this:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup wlan0
> >>> WPA: Configuring Interface
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device
> >>> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
> >>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> >>> Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP
> >>> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> >>> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> >>> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: No such device
> >>> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device
> >>> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device
> >>> wpa_supplicant: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
> >>> FAILED
> >>> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or
> >>> directory
> >>> ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> >>> wlan0 No such device
> >>>
> >>> udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Th

RE: Picking up Freerunners in Fremont (was: Openmoko Webshop ReopenNOW!!!)

[steve]

I'm headed there Monday to figure it out. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:05 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Picking up Freerunners in Fremont (was: Openmoko Webshop
ReopenNOW!!!)



Brian C wrote:
> Harry wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> Sorry for delay long time!!!
>> So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and 
>> spare also!!!
>>
>> http://www.openmoko.com/store.html
>>
>> Freerunner is running
>>
>> Thanks and BR
> 
> For those who wish to pick up in Fremont, there doesn't seem to be an 
> obvious option in the checkout process to indicate that.  Can this be 
> changed or can someone advise what we should do?

Brian, and others in the Bay Area,

The Fremont facility is not at all set up to do this. However, Steve is
doing everything he can to figure out a way to do this in spite of this
fact.

Give him a little time - he's deeply involved in trying to keep the ordering
and shipping running smoothly.

Thanks for understanding,
Michael

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RE: Shipping to canada...

[steve]

If you live in Canada buy the phone from Koolu.
 
See our distributor page.
 
 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Stone
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:57 PM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Shipping to canada...


These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your
replies)
 
a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees
applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore)
 
b)  How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal
(aka cheapest) shipping rate?
 
Thanks,
Matthias Stone
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RE: Shipping to canada...

[steve]

Check out Koolu. They have just signed up as a distributor for Canada and
the US. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:27 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Shipping to canada...

Hello.
I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with
someone in my group have been doing some research into this. 

UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and
bond fees.

Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to
them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it.

Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs.
(These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko
would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much
appreciated :) )

We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and
that includes all of their scam fees.

You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to
do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their
extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but
I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much
time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited
delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than
standard delivery + scam fees

Did I mention UPS suck?

Regards
Dave


On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote:
> These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you 
> for your replies)
>  
> a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any 
> taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore)
>  
> b)  How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the 
> normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate?
>  
> Thanks,
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Re: Picking up Freerunners in Fremont (was: Openmoko Webshop ReopenNOW!!!)

[Federico Lorenzi]

Steve, you rock :)

I don't suppose we'll know by Thursday the 14th whats going to happen?
I'm only in the US for 4 days, and it's my chance to get a Freerunner
without paying $170 shipping to South Africa.

Cheers,
Federico

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:03 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm headed there Monday to figure it out.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:05 PM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Picking up Freerunners in Fremont (was: Openmoko Webshop
> ReopenNOW!!!)
>
>
>
> Brian C wrote:
>> Harry wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> Sorry for delay long time!!!
>>> So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and
>>> spare also!!!
>>>
>>> http://www.openmoko.com/store.html
>>>
>>> Freerunner is running
>>>
>>> Thanks and BR
>>
>> For those who wish to pick up in Fremont, there doesn't seem to be an
>> obvious option in the checkout process to indicate that.  Can this be
>> changed or can someone advise what we should do?
>
> Brian, and others in the Bay Area,
>
> The Fremont facility is not at all set up to do this. However, Steve is
> doing everything he can to figure out a way to do this in spite of this
> fact.
>
> Give him a little time - he's deeply involved in trying to keep the ordering
> and shipping running smoothly.
>
> Thanks for understanding,
> Michael
>
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RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[steve]

Arne,

   The problem looks like this. Lets say you are ATT and you field a new
SIM. Your test team will test
It against a pile of of old phones they have and the new ones they are
shipping. They cant test it
In future phones that don't exist. So, new phone and old SIM is not a 100%
solution. Further,
I cant test all the old ATT SIM. I simply don't have access to them. When
Michael ATT SIM didn't work
We had two theories. First was that Michael lived in an area that used to be
Cingular and that ATT had taken
Over from Cingular, perhaps causing some issues. The second theory. I had
friends who got iPhones and had to have
Their SIM updated. So, once michael got a new SIM the problems went away. 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:34 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

Hi all,
I get my new SIM today per post and it works fine. But I have to say- an
1.5 year old SIM card isn't old in my eyes!! that can't be the solution for
everyone- to get a new SIM, so you have to bring out a patch for this issue.
because most customers won't accept that they have to get (or buy) a new
sim-card. Even not when they recognise that older sim-cards work (oldest
card i have put in was a 8 years old 2G card).

bye, Arne


steve schrieb:
> Arne,
>
>   Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT 
> people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS 
> not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an 
> phone under contract.
>
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne 
> Zachlod
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
>
> i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card 
> works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so 
> i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to 
> find out what could be wrong.
> I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. 
> Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me.
>
> bye, Arne
>
>
> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>   
>> Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information.
>>
>> If your card is more than a few months old it would be very 
>> interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the 
>> provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it 
>>> works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with 
>>> the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards.
>>> really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i 
>>> will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem 
>>> with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to 
>>> wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is 
>>> the english word for
>>> that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to 
>>> change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? 
>>> or getting a working SIM Card.
>>>
>>> Regards, Arne
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kluge schrieb:
>>> 
>>>   
 Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM 
 card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 
 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a 
 freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more
 
> expensive.
>   
 Michael

 Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
   
   
 
> Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany?
> Need to get some information here.
>
> Michael
>
> Arne Zachlod wrote:
> 
> 
>   
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany.
>>
>> Arne
>>
>> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi Arne,
>>>
>>> Who is your network provider?
>>> Where are you located?
>>>
>>> Michael?
>>>
>>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
 Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G 
 card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is 
 unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, 
 then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network).
 but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem.
 and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too.
 i have no idea where i can find any inform

RE: freerunner shipment confirmation?

[steve]

I cannot spell slep, err sleep. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flyin_bbb8
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:13 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

But its good sharing this kind of information, if the person [EMAIL PROTECTED]
will have to reply to each enquiry they will not have time to work :) , this
way others also see the answer and good for all of us that didnt order yet
(waiting for 900 mhz in openmoko shop)

On 7/5/08, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4 Jul 2008, at 23:19, Jayesh Salvi wrote:
>> ... I believe the 3rd step was my credit card specific which did some 
>> kind of verification for my Chase Visa credit card.
>
> This is quite common - I've known UK Visa cards to do the same thing.
> I never quite grok the security logic of taking you to a Visa site and 
> getting you to enter your date of birth, mothers' maiden name &c
> *during* a transaction (which they always do the first time you use a 
> card). If the card-provider wishes to something unique during credit- 
> card transactions then the authentication should be set up in ADVANCE.
>
>> At the end of 3rd step I got some error and couldn't proceed or go 
>> back from there. I however received an email confirmation for that 
>> 3rd step from Visa.
>>
>> What concerns me is, I did not get any confirmation email that 
>> OpenMoko has received my order successfully. ... But should I be 
>> getting any confirmation/receipt of transaction from OpenMoko or from 
>> the third party site that processed my order?
>
> Was it really necessary to post this question to the list? Couldn't 
> you have just emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead?
>
> I appreciate that Openmoko has these great community lists to make use 
> of, but this seems to me to be a standard ordering enquiry. In the 
> case of a credit card transaction query when ordering from any other 
> online shop, you'd just email them direct.
>
> Stroller.
>
>

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RE: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

[steve]

 Folks in Canada should take a look at buying from Koolu.

 They are on our website as a distributor.



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Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

Hi Rob,

It didn't work out since the group wasn't full when sales started; not sure
if anyone in the group didn't buy direct.

Best Regards,
Ben Cadieux


On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Rob Tymensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> If you've still got a spot open then I'm in...
> I'm assuming it's group 2 under Vancouver on the wiki, so I'll add myself
there.
>
> Please confirm.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob Tymensen
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> We've got a group sale with 4 spots left for Vancouver, BC.  If 
>> anyone would like to join, please send me an e-mail and sign up on 
>> the GroupSales wiki.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ben Cadieux
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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Paul Wouters]

> For a single phone the fees are $50.  However if you chose the more
> expense shipping method from openmoko, $50 extra, you don't pay the
> fees.
> 
> http://www.ups.com/content/ca/en/shipping/cost/zones/customs_clearance.html
> 
> So in the end its the same amount of money, but you get your phone much 
> faster.
> 
> There will be GST, but I don't know what duties their may be.

There will also be a "handling fee" because UPS gets away with it. UPS
is the worst method for shipping things into Canada.

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Re: Shipping to canada...

[Gabriel A. Devenyi]

On July 05, 2008, steve wrote:
> If you live in Canada buy the phone from Koolu.
>
> See our distributor page.

Too bad their webstore is *broken* and I can't get past the "select your 
shipping address" page.

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RE: Shipping to canada...

[Dave O'Connor]

No ten packs :/



On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 18:09 -0700, steve wrote:
> Check out Koolu. They have just signed up as a distributor for Canada and
> the US. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:27 PM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: Shipping to canada...
> 
> Hello.
> I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with
> someone in my group have been doing some research into this. 
> 
> UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and
> bond fees.
> 
> Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to
> them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it.
> 
> Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs.
> (These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko
> would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much
> appreciated :) )
> 
> We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and
> that includes all of their scam fees.
> 
> You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to
> do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their
> extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but
> I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much
> time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited
> delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than
> standard delivery + scam fees
> 
> Did I mention UPS suck?
> 
> Regards
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote:
> > These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you 
> > for your replies)
> >  
> > a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any 
> > taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore)
> >  
> > b)  How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the 
> > normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate?
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Matthias Stone
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Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

[Stephen Pape]

Yep, just enter pcworld20 as a promotional code for 20% off.

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Joseph Jon Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:23:37 +0300
> Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone
> > almost in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from
> > invisibleshield and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just
> > contact me, come first , get first :p
>
> Same with my discount codes (same discount was given to pc world
> readers).
>
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Re: Battery driver problems?

[Tobias Diedrich]

Tobias Diedrich wrote:
> /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat says:
> capacity: 0
> charge_full: 1223082
> current_now: 2437
> present: 1
> status: Discharging
> technology: Li-ion
> temp: 346
> time_to_empty_now: 0
> time_to_full_now: 3932100
> type: Battery
> voltage_now: 3778000

Now, after it was connected to the charger the whole night it says:
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=bat
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3324000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=1223082
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=318
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_EMPTY_NOW=3932100
POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_FULL_NOW=3932100
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=0

Apparently it wasn't charged at all? (Voltage 3,324 Volts)o

I think I'll try going back to the
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/
image...

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Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

[Jeffrey Malone]

I'm curious how well these work.

Does the cover have any real downsides?
Eg:
Difficult to apply/align
Reduces touchscreen sensitivity
... or otherwise impairs the phone's use or operation.

Thanks for any advice you can give

Jeffrey Malone

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Stephen Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yep, just enter pcworld20 as a promotional code for 20% off.
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Joseph Jon Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:23:37 +0300
>> Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone
>> > almost in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from
>> > invisibleshield and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just
>> > contact me, come first , get first :p
>>
>> Same with my discount codes (same discount was given to pc world
>> readers).
>>
>> --
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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

[Holger Freyther]

On Saturday 05 July 2008 20:52:30 Kevin Zuber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work.
> Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it.
> Same again. It doesn't want my pin.
> I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that
> it is the newest simcard they have.
> So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution.

Hmm.
so the modem was turned on, you entered a sim pin. And on AT+CPIN? it told you 
it wants the SIM PIN. Normally this means your PIN was not correct. If you 
have your PUK nearby just try to enter the PIN again and see what is 
happening. And it is normal that you can not register with a network without 
an unlocked sim :)


z.

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