Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig B. Allen wrote: I have been trying to setup to play files stored on my SD card but cannot find any way to select or enter a directory. Put your files in a Documents directory on the sd card and qt extended will find them Is that normal Qtextended should be restarted after we add some files in Documents directory (pictures, music, ...) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? 2008/10/5 gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig B. Allen wrote: I have been trying to setup to play files stored on my SD card but cannot find any way to select or enter a directory. Put your files in a Documents directory on the sd card and qt extended will find them Is that normal Qtextended should be restarted after we add some files in Documents directory (pictures, music, ...) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:19:09 +0200 gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G) wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig B. Allen wrote: I have been trying to setup to play files stored on my SD card but cannot find any way to select or enter a directory. Put your files in a Documents directory on the sd card and qt extended will find them Is that normal Qtextended should be restarted after we add some files in Documents directory (pictures, music, ...) ? No, there is a Rescan option in the menu while in the Documents -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? Every documents are sorted by mimetype, so, for a JPEG image, you should put it in Documents/image/jpeg/ To identify mimetype, you can grep extension of you file in /etc/mime.types on your desktop ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep jpg /etc/mime.types image/jpeg jpeg jpg jpe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
2008/10/5 gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? Every documents are sorted by mimetype, so, for a JPEG image, you should put it in Documents/image/jpeg/ To identify mimetype, you can grep extension of you file in /etc/mime.types on your desktop yes but how can I use it as cover for the media player? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtextended
Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Setting up Qtextended: no block2mtd module
Hi all, I am running a Mandriva 2008 box, kernel is 2.6.22.19-desktop-2mdv. I am trying to set up qtextended on the uSD-card, and my attempts fail when trying to mount the jffs image on a loopback device. Been ollowing the wiki, and the problem is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FR]# modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=$loop,131072 FATAL: Module block2mtd not found. I also tried the alternate route, with mtdcore, but that too is not available. Hmpf. Can anyone give me a pointer on how to fix this? Thanks, Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
2008/10/5 lpotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] gromez writes: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? Every documents are sorted by mimetype, so, for a JPEG image, you should put it in Documents/image/jpeg/ You can do it this way, but it is not required. Anything within the ~/Documents or /media/card/Documents directories will be scanned, and added automatically. yes but how can I associate an image to a song (to display the image when the song is playing (a cover))? I have to name the image as the song in jpeg format? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rescue my freerunner
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 09:25:57AM +0100, David Pottage wrote: How about preparing a MicoSD card with fresh copy of your preferred distro on it. (ASU/Debian/etc), boot from that and then mount the rootfs and either fix the offending files or take a copy of your data. That's it! Thank you! -- Regards, Sergey Alembekov ALTLinux Team xmpp: rt at jabber.ru ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:32:38 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am - again - new to this list after my initial contact with the Neo 1973 some time ago. Now I am starting anew with the Freerunner :-) I have QT Extended running on the FR and I have some questions: - Suspend works but it does not wake up on incoming calls. This is a rather old bug. Is there any workaround? - what rootfs is there to use with it? Can I take any rootfs from any distribution? Or should I stay with 2007.2? Maybe 2008.9? - Scrolling with QT Extended is a bit odd. I seem to be starting applicans while scrolling ... Any workaround for this? Download Qt Extended flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) version 4.4.1 from qtextended: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 You need to also download the mwester kernel mentioned there, but it seels that mwester brew a new kernel yesterday (the qtextended link no longer works), so go there and download it directly for gta02: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rescue my freerunner
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 10:10:21AM -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: If your computer doesn't have an SD slot, you can buy an inexpensive USB to SDcard adapter. This is what I use and it's been fine. Yes, thank you! (when you say it's stuck while booting, how long did you wait? IIRC there is a network related task which will eventually time out, but it does take quite a long time.) I waited until battery uncharged :) Anyway, booting from SD it's good idea. And i could rescue and discover the reason of problem. -- Regards, Sergey Alembekov ALTLinux Team xmpp: rt at jabber.ru ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtextended
No, you need to flash the kernel using dfu-util -a kernel -R -D path to mwester uimage kernel And then the rootfs using dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 (the difference is in the dfu-util -a parameter: kernel vs. rootfs) Franky On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:34:23 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the mwester kernel linked from that page - but what about modules - you have to boot the device to install them, and it comes up with nothing working? I am just flashing 2008.9 from the 16th to see if that helps. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:56 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:50:17 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK you need to flash the uimage kernel as well: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OT: Games for scummvm?
Hi all, me wants to use scummvm and downloaded some files from http://www.scummvm.org/downloads.php#extras I tried 'Drascula', 'Lure ot the Temptress' and 'Flight of the Amazon Queen' getting mixed resolve but none game running. Drascula and FotAQ are not chooseable from my scummvm or me is to silly to do :) LotT is choosable but returns to shell saying it needs an other version from summvm. Well, me didnt looked too far into this because this was my first try and i tried the other games after that. But transfering the files needs a while so i stop trying now... In short: anyone using scummvm and with what game? regards, hama ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtextended
Must have done 20-30 flashes over the past few weeks, various versions of 2007/2008/ASU/FSO/FDOM :) Most of them work - sort of. In particular, most dont want to register the GSM without extra work. I used qtopia/uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin (has the correct md5sum) which I think is supposed to match QTExtended 4.4.1 - but it has the symptoms Ive previously described. I actually suspect it might have hung on the pin dialog like some other distros do as in shutting down via the menu a phone pad sometimes popsup with waiting or some such. Waited 15 minutes before removing the battery ... BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 11:41 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: No, you need to flash the kernel using dfu-util -a kernel -R -D path to mwester uimage kernel And then the rootfs using dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 (the difference is in the dfu-util -a parameter: kernel vs. rootfs) Franky On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:34:23 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the mwester kernel linked from that page - but what about modules - you have to boot the device to install them, and it comes up with nothing working? I am just flashing 2008.9 from the 16th to see if that helps. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:56 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:50:17 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK you need to flash the uimage kernel as well: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Games for scummvm?
I used scummvm with 2007.2 and some games like monkey island, day of tentacle and such. All games worked fine but the newer games ver sometimes a bit slow. I also tried it with debian but had not so much success with the newer scummvm version. Also the missing rotate function makes it unusable. A short try with xglamo and rotate ended in a frozen scummvm. :( But i didn't try it hard to get it running with debian. Ciao, Rainer Hans-Martin wrote: Hi all, me wants to use scummvm and downloaded some files from http://www.scummvm.org/downloads.php#extras I tried 'Drascula', 'Lure ot the Temptress' and 'Flight of the Amazon Queen' getting mixed resolve but none game running. Drascula and FotAQ are not chooseable from my scummvm or me is to silly to do :) LotT is choosable but returns to shell saying it needs an other version from summvm. Well, me didnt looked too far into this because this was my first try and i tried the other games after that. But transfering the files needs a while so i stop trying now... In short: anyone using scummvm and with what game? regards, hama ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Games for scummvm?
Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 12:17:34 schrieb Fox Mulder: I used scummvm with 2007.2 and some games like monkey island, day of tentacle and such. All games worked fine but the newer games ver sometimes a bit slow. as this games are not free me guess, there is no way to get this on a legal way? regards, hama ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtextended
Nope same deal - so what kernel goes with qtextended 4.4.1? BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:34 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I used the mwester kernel linked from that page - but what about modules - you have to boot the device to install them, and it comes up with nothing working? I am just flashing 2008.9 from the 16th to see if that helps. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:56 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:50:17 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK you need to flash the uimage kernel as well: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
Previdi Roberto wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) if i issue a make update openembedded complains that it don't know where to update from... the Makefile was updated to match this. Did you run make update-makefile and try again? i tried but the makefile just doesn't have the update-makefile target.. Apologies for that - the FSO makefile updates itself automatically as part of the normal make update target. So if you'd done that you should have got the new makefile. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:47:56 +1000 lpotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gromez writes: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? Every documents are sorted by mimetype, so, for a JPEG image, you should put it in Documents/image/jpeg/ You can do it this way, but it is not required. Anything within the ~/Documents or /media/card/Documents directories will be scanned, and added automatically. Hi Lorn, is there anything we can do to help debug the echo problem? Or the alarm clock thingie after suspend (or maybe that's still an outstanding issue)? For the alarm: if I don't suspend, it will probably work fine, but then I'm afraid about battery time (and since we don't see the current battery status due to the latest kernel ...) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Tango GPS shows GPS Times form 1999
I tried out another location, there were found after a short time 2/0 satellites and the gps time was correct. Next time i try i think it should work there. The battery wasn't full charged yesterday, so i didn''t wait longer for a fix. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:47:03 +0200 Subject: RE: Tango GPS shows GPS Times form 1999 On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 17:39 +, Matthias Camenzind wrote: On Om2008.8 i used gspd and it didn't work. It looks more like working (the seconds changes form 0 to 9) sometimes is satellites changing to 1/0. Am I not recieving gsp signlas? How does it look like when there are to less singals? . Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:30:08 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Tango GPS shows GPS Times form 1999 This seems to be a fso-gpsd bug. I also experienced this problem why i went back to use gpsd which always show the right time and satellites. Ciao, Rainer Matthias Camenzind wrote: I've installed Debian on microSD 2GB with Xfce, tangogps and fso-gpsd. The Trip section is normaly showing a GPS Time from 1999-11-30 00:00:00 somtimes GPS Time changes short to 2006 or 2007. Tangogps on Om2008.8 shows 1970. On both 0/0 Satellites HDOP 0.0. Is there something wrong with my GPS device? _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When there is a strong signal and the position locked then there should be at least 5 valid satellites 5/6 or higher. _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?
gromez writes: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and where you have to put image files to be recognised as cover by the media player? Every documents are sorted by mimetype, so, for a JPEG image, you should put it in Documents/image/jpeg/ You can do it this way, but it is not required. Anything within the ~/Documents or /media/card/Documents directories will be scanned, and added automatically. To identify mimetype, you can grep extension of you file in /etc/mime.types on your desktop ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep jpg /etc/mime.types image/jpegjpeg jpg jpe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtextended
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:50:17 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK you need to flash the uimage kernel as well: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
Hi Vasco, On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 04:42:02PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all, but especially OM. I felt a little cheated when I saw the FR I had bought was not ready to be used as a daily phone. This had in fact been the publicity by OM at the time - GTA01 was for tinkerers, and GTA02 was for the public. Then people said no, it was clear that GTA02 was also for tinkerers only... I experienced it the very same way. If you looked just at www.openmoko.com, you would think GTA02 was a ready phone for end-users. I can be blamed for not informing myself enough. But I think OM at least tolerated the possibility of users being misinformed. Otherwise they should have put a clear warning on openmoko.com. Dear OM team, such a warning is even missing today. Instead I read: ``If you plan on using your FreeRunner for everyday use, then we would recommend Qtopia. While it doesn't utilize all the the new hardware features of the phone, it is reliable and stable.'' May be that Qtopia is stable, alas the kernel and hardware are not. WSOD and GSM buzz is my everyday reality. But honestly, I still love this project. OM after all is providing the first free phone. It is about time that man reclaimed machine. And this is a very important step towards it. Still there is a lot of disappointment. And that certainly comes from a lack of communication and information. I experience an unopenness concerning things that don't work yet. When people complain about their FR not being usable as a phone, they get answers like this one: ``I appreciate that many of you purchased the FR to use as your daily phone. But I really believe that the magic of Openmoko comes from what we do with this platform that is different from, and way beyond, a mere phone.''[1] Exaggerating just a bit, it sounds like: ``My FR is not working as a phone!'' - ``Well son, it was never meant to be a phone.'' That's just one random example but to me it feels like the general direction of many OM staff postings. So to pick up my earlier point: Why does openmoko.com not explicitly state that the phone's software is not ready for reliable daily use? There should also be a note about the possibility that the FR with your provider in your region will be suffering from GSM buzz. Thus being unusable as a phone. Ole [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/031063.html pgp0AGfBgnTdA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Hi, I am - again - new to this list after my initial contact with the Neo 1973 some time ago. Now I am starting anew with the Freerunner :-) I have QT Extended running on the FR and I have some questions: - Suspend works but it does not wake up on incoming calls. This is a rather old bug. Is there any workaround? - what rootfs is there to use with it? Can I take any rootfs from any distribution? Or should I stay with 2007.2? Maybe 2008.9? - Scrolling with QT Extended is a bit odd. I seem to be starting applicans while scrolling ... Any workaround for this? In case someione can enlighten me, I'd appreciate. Thanks in advance best regards, Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware crash
On Sunday 14 September 2008 16:10:12 Andreas Fischer wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I experienced a crash of the GSM firmware - my Freerunner started to vibrate and there was a message on-screen that stated that the GSM Firmware had crashed and that I would be unable to use phone functionality. I have just had the same crash. I am using FDOM 20080927 firmware, and I had just made a call that was not answered. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtextended
I used the mwester kernel linked from that page - but what about modules - you have to boot the device to install them, and it comes up with nothing working? I am just flashing 2008.9 from the 16th to see if that helps. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:56 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:50:17 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becuase 2008.9 doesnt work for me (I need reliable sms), I thought I'd give qt-extended a go. I flashed the jffs2 file, but nothing much seems to happen. I dont get a sim dialog, I dont get any working icons on the desktop (taping them with a stylus does nothing), I dont get a usb network connection (presuming it works the same way as 2008.9) The only thing that works is pressing the power button to bring up the shutdown menu :( Is this whats supposed to happen - a preview of the desktop graphic? BillK you need to flash the uimage kernel as well: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
discouraged: projects.openmoko.org unmaintained?
Hi all, I have just created a project in projects.openmoko.org. I solved the Permission denied (publickey) message, with the public key solution, nevertheless I am unable to log into my ssh account, and unable to checkout my project. I have looked for solutions in google and I have run into this thread: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-devel/2008/8/22/3034484 this is a common problem with projects.om.org - ssh+svn hangs and the solutions bandied about have been use google code or sourceforge etc. Please, is it really true that projects.openmoko.org is unusable? -- Javi Roman ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Games for scummvm?
as this games are not free me guess, there is no way to get this on a legal way? MAME roms are legal to download and use if you own the original, its probably the same for any disk image, just buy the original at any carboot, thrift store or $online_auction_site if you're worried about the legalities, though my guess is you're not going to get into any trouble downloading a 15 year old game by a publisher that stopped trading long ago ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QTextended 4.4.1
Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Is this common experience? Or did I just not wait long enough (about a minute) for QT to respond again? (Pressing powerbutton for a long time did not make anything move...) Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Hi, great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... Thanks greetings, Nicolas On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:39:02 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:32:38 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am - again - new to this list after my initial contact with the Neo 1973 some time ago. Now I am starting anew with the Freerunner :-) I have QT Extended running on the FR and I have some questions: - Suspend works but it does not wake up on incoming calls. This is a rather old bug. Is there any workaround? - what rootfs is there to use with it? Can I take any rootfs from any distribution? Or should I stay with 2007.2? Maybe 2008.9? - Scrolling with QT Extended is a bit odd. I seem to be starting applicans while scrolling ... Any workaround for this? Download Qt Extended flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) version 4.4.1 from qtextended: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 You need to also download the mwester kernel mentioned there, but it seels that mwester brew a new kernel yesterday (the qtextended link no longer works), so go there and download it directly for gta02: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Nicolas Linkert wrote: great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 This worked for me. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Paul wrote: Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Hi all, Not tried bluetooth, but been using QTextended since yesterday, and here are my observations: 1. On incoming call, ringtone is played from ear-phone instead of speaker-phone. Media player also plays back using ear-phone. * by ear-phone I mean the speaker where you put your ear to to listen to other party in voice call and speaker-phone is the speaker on the side. 2. Power management can be a little erratic. I.e. I changed settings so that phone does not suspend even on battery (worked). Changed it to suspend again after 50s (did not work). Shutdown and restarted phone (suspending properly again). 3. Executing 'apm' from terminal earlier used to give battery status ... does not any longer. I'm assuming this is related to battery icon showing empty. 4. Wifi configuration worked perfectly from gui. Except for empty 'resolv.conf', I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that have to do stuff to get that working. Will look into that. 'System Info' network showed wrong gateway (IP assigned to device instead of gateway IP). But configuration was correct according to 'ip route show' and it was working ok. 5. Contact upload from vcf worked. For newbies: path is now /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/... instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/... if you are using the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts . Will update wiki on this soon. 6. Phone UI freezes for some time (30s) sometimes (rarely). Not been able to do any further analysis as to when / why / how. 7. Desperately need info on how mapping demo can be configured etc. Need to cache maps. It seems you can't move around / zoom. @Lorn any way we could provide you with debugging info / help that you require to get this working perfectly. If you could guide us to some links etc for the same. Would be much appreciated. If anybody has observed these issues in their setup / worked around them, pointers would be appreciated. Thanks and regards, Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Looking for Free time zone map data
Hi! We were thinking about how to handle timezones in the FSO framework and decided we would like to be able to detect the time zone automatically based on the current location. I've search for a database with the necessary information, but i only found a commercial provider which doesn't allow redistribution. Does anyone have an idea how we could solve this problem? Thanks, Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Nicolas Linkert wrote: Hi, great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... You can copy the file over to the phone, ssh and do tar xvzf modules-min-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.tgz -C / which will populate the modules in the file system. Thanks greetings, Nicolas On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:39:02 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:32:38 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am - again - new to this list after my initial contact with the Neo 1973 some time ago. Now I am starting anew with the Freerunner :-) I have QT Extended running on the FR and I have some questions: - Suspend works but it does not wake up on incoming calls. This is a rather old bug. Is there any workaround? - what rootfs is there to use with it? Can I take any rootfs from any distribution? Or should I stay with 2007.2? Maybe 2008.9? - Scrolling with QT Extended is a bit odd. I seem to be starting applicans while scrolling ... Any workaround for this? Download Qt Extended flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) version 4.4.1 from qtextended: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 You need to also download the mwester kernel mentioned there, but it seels that mwester brew a new kernel yesterday (the qtextended link no longer works), so go there and download it directly for gta02: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Charles Clément. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Vibhav Sharma wrote: Paul wrote: Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Hi all, Not tried bluetooth, but been using QTextended since yesterday, and here are my observations: 1. On incoming call, ringtone is played from ear-phone instead of speaker-phone. Media player also plays back using ear-phone. * by ear-phone I mean the speaker where you put your ear to to listen to other party in voice call and speaker-phone is the speaker on the side. 2. Power management can be a little erratic. I.e. I changed settings so that phone does not suspend even on battery (worked). Changed it to suspend again after 50s (did not work). Shutdown and restarted phone (suspending properly again). 3. Executing 'apm' from terminal earlier used to give battery status ... does not any longer. I'm assuming this is related to battery icon showing empty. 4. Wifi configuration worked perfectly from gui. Except for empty 'resolv.conf', I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that have to do stuff to get that working. Will look into that. 'System Info' network showed wrong gateway (IP assigned to device instead of gateway IP). But configuration was correct according to 'ip route show' and it was working ok. 5. Contact upload from vcf worked. For newbies: path is now /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/... instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/... if you are using the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts . Will update wiki on this soon. 6. Phone UI freezes for some time (30s) sometimes (rarely). Not been able to do any further analysis as to when / why / how. 7. Desperately need info on how mapping demo can be configured etc. Need to cache maps. It seems you can't move around / zoom. @Lorn any way we could provide you with debugging info / help that you require to get this working perfectly. If you could guide us to some links etc for the same. Would be much appreciated. If anybody has observed these issues in their setup / worked around them, pointers would be appreciated. Thanks and regards, Vibhav Apologise for replying to my own mail. But in case anybody wanted to know: I'd setup my freerunner by using the kernel image from qtextended.org, qtextended-4.4.1 jffs image before update and installing the timezone ipk. Regards, Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Hi, yes, works as described. However, the primary obstacle is that the phone - once in suspend mode - does not wake up from calls. That's really too bad since it means it cannot be used as a phone. 3-5 hours are just not enough ... Oh, well. Thanks, Nick On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:55:38 +0200, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nicolas Linkert wrote: great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 This worked for me. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android
Cédric Berger wrote: Porting android should be possible, but only when its sources are released (should be when first android phones are available) The first Android phones are due to be available on http://www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-faqs-phone.aspx 22 Oct 2008 in the US . I'm really hoping to see what sort of progress will be made after that. On a different front, will it be possible to port Android applications (not the whole OS, just the apps) to distros running on Neo phones? For instance, if I had a FreeRunner, could I run http://scan.jsharkey.org/ Scan on it* now or soon (i.e. without having to wait for Android to be ported), and how much work would this be? Thanks for your help, and apologies it I've missed answers to my question in the mailing lists: I'm still learning my way around OpenMoko and Android terminology, and am by no means an operating system developer. Cheers, spk *Assuming I tweaked Scan to let me type in the barcode numbers rather than submitting photos, since the FR doesn't have a camera. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-tp682496p1298745.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Didnt for me - but I have come to the conclusion its related to my sim - will try another one tomorrow. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 14:55 +0200, Paul wrote: Nicolas Linkert wrote: great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 This worked for me. Paul -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
Yes - DONT DO IT! In Australia we change DST on a per state basis - we are 3 weeks behind in this to Eastern states, and guess where the carriers are based, and what happened on many/most mobiles here last night ... When travelling across timezones, its nice to be able to control whats happening. When it goes wrong it WILL really stuff your day - sorry, you were late to the job interview ... Please, please if you decide to go ahead with such a monstrosity, include a way for us to turn it off and provide manual changes. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 14:57 +0200, Jan Lübbe wrote: Hi! We were thinking about how to handle timezones in the FSO framework and decided we would like to be able to detect the time zone automatically based on the current location. I've search for a database with the necessary information, but i only found a commercial provider which doesn't allow redistribution. Does anyone have an idea how we could solve this problem? Thanks, Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QTextended. Wheel.
I activated the Wheelbrowser in QT. It looks funny, but I can't activate any of the apps. What's the best way to get back to plain vanilla QT, flash it again? Or is the setting stored in $HOME somewhere? Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
I tried it, but i have the same problem :-( On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:10 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Didnt for me - but I have come to the conclusion its related to my sim - will try another one tomorrow. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 14:55 +0200, Paul wrote: Nicolas Linkert wrote: great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 This worked for me. Paul -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Hey, I'm trying to get FSO working beneath the Raster-Image. I installed zhone. That drew in a lot of dependencies, which is fine. However, I couldn't connect to DBUS, even though dbus is installed, but frameworkd wasn't. (Why itsn't it a dependency of of zhone?) Now, I don't have any sound in zhone. No ring tones, I can't hear anyone talking. Rasters alarm is working though. what package am I missing here? Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:34:28 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:37:58 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I used to have a bunch of them when I was doing a NLG ( natural Language generation) pet project. I sent you a link to US names as well. from the US census. For personal dictionaries, people could just run a simple word frequency analysis on their archived email,( there are GPL programs that do this I believe, but its dead easy to write yourself) and import their email contacts into the database. in fact that is the idea of the 3 dictionaries the keyboard has. it has system (which is base language - eg english), personal (any words they type in at all go in here - they inherit frequency they had before but now gain in count as they get used more), and.. generated dictionary - ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/data.dic - this file is expected to be regularly generated from the users sms's, emails, contact list etc. containing words from their every-day activity - so that friend with a strange name... gets their name into the dictionary pool this way. :) Is there a way to tie into bash_completion when we are on a terminal? That should be fun :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:01:30 +0800 Daniel Willmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Is there a way to tie into bash_completion when we are on a terminal? That should be fun :-) none really. that info is private to the shell - which is private (and insulated) from the wm in turn. Regards, Daniel Willmann -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:15 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: In Australia we change DST on a per state basis - we are 3 weeks behind in this to Eastern states, and guess where the carriers are based, and what happened on many/most mobiles here last night ... The way it should work is based on the geographical location. The location then needs to be mapped to tzdata entry (which should contain all relevant DST information). When travelling across timezones, its nice to be able to control whats happening. When it goes wrong it WILL really stuff your day - sorry, you were late to the job interview ... Please, please if you decide to go ahead with such a monstrosity, include a way for us to turn it off and provide manual changes. Of course the will be a way to turn it off. Nevertheless it would be nice to get off the plane and just have the correct time zone. Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
I agree with what you are saying. When I bought the phone I knew there were some issues, but I had confidence in the hardware. I also had the impression it wouldn't take much time to be able to use it as a very basic phone. Maybe I was wrong with my assumption. Even the so called reliable and stable qtopia had missing sms messages, picking up a call and no sound, lost pin enter screens, echo and resume not functional. Would be nice to have one basic image with a focus on these issues. Even if it slowed down development. I guess developers also need a phone, don't they? When people complain about their FR not being usable as a phone, they get answers like this one: ``I appreciate that many of you purchased the FR to use as your daily phone. But I really believe that the magic of Openmoko comes from what we do with this platform that is different from, and way beyond, a mere phone.''[1] Exaggerating just a bit, it sounds like: ``My FR is not working as a phone!'' - ``Well son, it was never meant to be a phone.'' That's just one random example but to me it feels like the general direction of many OM staff postings. So to pick up my earlier point: Why does openmoko.com not explicitly state that the phone's software is not ready for reliable daily use? There should also be a note about the possibility that the FR with your provider in your region will be suffering from GSM buzz. Thus being unusable as a phone. Ole ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Illume and Qt
Hi! Illume does not show Qt/QMessageBox dialogs, i think this is not a problem of Qt as they appears fine with matchbox. Is this a known issue? regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android
su, 2008-10-05 kello 06:01 -0700, sampablokuper kirjoitti: On a different front, will it be possible to port Android applications (not the whole OS, just the apps) to distros running on Neo phones? For instance, if I had a FreeRunner, could I run http://scan.jsharkey.org/ Scan on it* now or soon (i.e. without having to wait for Android to be ported), and how much work would this be? You need to modify the VM to target arm4 and use X11 for display (and handle environment integration in a sufficient manner for the desired apps). Probably one of the bigger pieces of porting work with the whole system, since it's decidedly not just a recompile away. Probably not an insane amount of work though either, but this is from a guy not doing it. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended. Wheel.
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I activated the Wheelbrowser in QT. It looks funny, but I can't activate any of the apps. What's the best way to get back to plain vanilla QT, flash it again? Or is the setting stored in $HOME somewhere? Just tried this feature and it didn't work as you said. To get back default Qtextended behaviour you can access to the latest executed apps throught the AUX button. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to build qt-extended?
2008/10/4 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/3 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just downloaded the updated toolchains, but the problem persist: Looks like it configured in ssl to me: Yes!, but the problem is not here, qbuild does not anything! it simply answer Nothing to be done for default Regards Ok, it happens on gentoo systems! on ubuntu it goes well. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: discouraged: projects.openmoko.org unmaintained?
I am using projects without any problems. Yes I use svn, I use news, I use releases, forum... Everything works. When posting public key, you have to wait a little bit, as it is maintained by cron script. If it still doesn't work, check if you entered correct key. At first I have some trouble with it, but now it's ok. Give it one more try ;-) Martin On 10/5/08, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have just created a project in projects.openmoko.org. I solved the Permission denied (publickey) message, with the public key solution, nevertheless I am unable to log into my ssh account, and unable to checkout my project. I have looked for solutions in google and I have run into this thread: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-devel/2008/8/22/3034484 this is a common problem with projects.om.org - ssh+svn hangs and the solutions bandied about have been use google code or sourceforge etc. Please, is it really true that projects.openmoko.org is unusable? -- Javi Roman ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Raster, I don't think I was exactly clear on using the email database. What I was thinking is that you could run a simple program on your desktop computer and do a frequency analysis of the mails ( and contacts) that you have on your PC. Same with chat logs. Then merge that (somehow) into the database on the phone, say in the personal. Daniel Willmann wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:34:28 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:37:58 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I used to have a bunch of them when I was doing a NLG ( natural Language generation) pet project. I sent you a link to US names as well. from the US census. For personal dictionaries, people could just run a simple word frequency analysis on their archived email,( there are GPL programs that do this I believe, but its dead easy to write yourself) and import their email contacts into the database. in fact that is the idea of the 3 dictionaries the keyboard has. it has system (which is base language - eg english), personal (any words they type in at all go in here - they inherit frequency they had before but now gain in count as they get used more), and.. generated dictionary - ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/data.dic - this file is expected to be regularly generated from the users sms's, emails, contact list etc. containing words from their every-day activity - so that friend with a strange name... gets their name into the dictionary pool this way. :) Is there a way to tie into bash_completion when we are on a terminal? That should be fun :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:27:01 +0530 Vibhav Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul wrote: Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Hi all, Not tried bluetooth, but been using QTextended since yesterday, and here are my observations: 1. On incoming call, ringtone is played from ear-phone instead of speaker-phone. Media player also plays back using ear-phone. * by ear-phone I mean the speaker where you put your ear to to listen to other party in voice call and speaker-phone is the speaker on the side. 2. Power management can be a little erratic. I.e. I changed settings so that phone does not suspend even on battery (worked). Changed it to suspend again after 50s (did not work). Shutdown and restarted phone (suspending properly again). 3. Executing 'apm' from terminal earlier used to give battery status ... does not any longer. I'm assuming this is related to battery icon showing empty. 4. Wifi configuration worked perfectly from gui. Except for empty 'resolv.conf', I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that have to do stuff to get that working. Will look into that. 'System Info' network showed wrong gateway (IP assigned to device instead of gateway IP). But configuration was correct according to 'ip route show' and it was working ok. 5. Contact upload from vcf worked. For newbies: path is now /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/... instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/... if you are using the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts . Will update wiki on this soon. 6. Phone UI freezes for some time (30s) sometimes (rarely). Not been able to do any further analysis as to when / why / how. 7. Desperately need info on how mapping demo can be configured etc. Need to cache maps. It seems you can't move around / zoom. @Lorn any way we could provide you with debugging info / help that you require to get this working perfectly. If you could guide us to some links etc for the same. Would be much appreciated. If anybody has observed these issues in their setup / worked around them, pointers would be appreciated. Hi, I haven't had any issues with bluetooth or waking up from suspended for a call (haven't tried sms before). However, my issues are: - echo is back. With echo I mean when somebody else is calling you on your freerunner and they hear everything they say themselves. This in fact is so loud that the freerunner is unusable as a phone. Maybe that alsa controls can help here, but I don't seem to be able to find the alsa state files on qtextended. - alarm doesn't sound on time when the phone is suspended. The phone unsuspends right on time, but no alarm is played/shown (but it does after a while if you keep the phone unsuspended). Probably this has to do with the alarm already being overdue when the phone finishes unsuspending. Being somebody who doesn't own a separate alarm clock, this is a must-have function for me. For the empty battery icon: install the latest webster kernel found at http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels , this kernel fixes at least that and maybe even the bluetooth issues. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Hi Mathias, I even took it one step further. I can not get it to work properly on channel 11, so i set my accesspoint to channel 1. And i changed the script a little: Exec=xterm -e ifconfig eth0 down ; iwconfig eth0 txpower off channel 0 ; while killall wpa_supplicant; do echo 'Killing wpa_sup'; done ; killall udhcpc ; wpa_supplicant -i eth0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -B; sleep 10; udhcpc Now it is working every time. I am using 2008.latest (081004) and a linksys WAP54G accesspoint, running Firmware Version: 3.05. in mixed mode, broadcast enabled, encryption WPA-Personal, passphrase without a space charachter in it. ( i am no sure if any of this matters, but it gives the settings with which i have it working) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-2008.9--Wifi-very-unreliable-tp1128409p1299065.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the whole, it's just that they are understaffed and spread very thin: how many people would a company need to totally rock from hardware design to community management, including production, sales, kernel development, middleware development, applications development, interface, packaging and distribution ? indeed! i just read on /. that motorola is expanding its Android Developer Team from 50 to 350 people!!! everybody working in a small software development company knows what OM has already achieved. my respect to the people from OM! clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Hi Richard Did you install frameworkd from fso repository and its dependencies? Worked for me. Markus On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:55:33 +0200 Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm trying to get FSO working beneath the Raster-Image. I installed zhone. That drew in a lot of dependencies, which is fine. However, I couldn't connect to DBUS, even though dbus is installed, but frameworkd wasn't. (Why itsn't it a dependency of of zhone?) Now, I don't have any sound in zhone. No ring tones, I can't hear anyone talking. Rasters alarm is working though. what package am I missing here? Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Is anyone else not seeing any of the SIM contacts in QTExtended? This used to work with the previous release of QTopia. I get this when running with the mwester kernel. --Ori Pessach ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Ori Pessach wrote: Is anyone else not seeing any of the SIM contacts in QTExtended? No problem here, running uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ori Pessach wrote: Is anyone else not seeing any of the SIM contacts in QTExtended? No problem here, running uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2. All right... Rebooting again made the contacts visible. Where's the best place to report bugs for the images from Troll/Nokia? --Ori Pessach ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:02:35 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hem, pointers would be appreciated. Hi, I haven't had any issues with bluetooth or waking up from suspended for a call (haven't tried sms before). However, my issues are: - echo is back. With echo I mean when somebody else is calling you on your freerunner and they hear everything they say themselves. This in fact is so loud that the freerunner is unusable as a phone. Maybe that alsa controls can help here, but I don't seem to be able to find the alsa state files on qtextended. For those curious: I seem to have been able to fix the echo issue by setting the following in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state Mono Playback Volume = 85 I lost the original state file, but I used this one as base: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032337.html Now only the alarm clock issue remains (in my case). I will force myself to use the phone as regular phone for one day Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:02:35 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I haven't had any issues with bluetooth or waking up from suspended for a call (haven't tried sms before). However, my issues are: (...) Wait a minute: Does that mean your phone wakes up from incoming calls when in suspend mode??? I have the latest rootfs and the latest kernel installed and my phone does NOT wake up. Confused ... What did you do to make this work? Best regards, Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Wait a minute: Does that mean your phone wakes up from incoming calls when in suspend mode??? I have the latest rootfs and the latest kernel installed and my phone does NOT wake up. Confused ... What did you do to make this work? I'd like to know too. I gave this a try today, and the FR remained bricklike in suspend. I set it to dim/screen off for that, in that state it will 'wake up' when a call comes in. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Where's the best place to report bugs for the images from Troll/Nokia? Try their forum: http://qtextended.org/modules/newbb_plus/ Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Ori Pessach writes: « HTML content follows » On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Paul URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ori Pessach wrote: Is anyone else not seeing any of the SIM contacts in QTExtended? No problem here, running uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2. All right... Rebooting again made the contacts visible. Where's the best place to report bugs for the images from Troll/Nokia? Probably at http://trolltech.com/bugreport-form This goes directly to our support, who forward it on to anengineer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:31 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:02:35 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I haven't had any issues with bluetooth or waking up from suspended for a call (haven't tried sms before). However, my issues are: (...) Wait a minute: Does that mean your phone wakes up from incoming calls when in suspend mode??? I have the latest rootfs and the latest kernel installed and my phone does NOT wake up. Confused ... What did you do to make this work? bow before your freerunner, pay it respect as you would do to a Greek God and let it suspend ... No seriously, I didn't do anything. I just tried it again: let it suspend (albeit only for a few seconds), call et voila: phone back to life. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
bow before your freerunner, pay it respect as you would do to a Greek God and let it suspend ... Hmm. So no garlic, no dancing on your left foot or magic spells??? No seriously, I didn't do anything. I just tried it again: let it suspend (albeit only for a few seconds), call et voila: phone back to life. I'll try it again tomorrow. You never know. ;-) Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: discouraged: projects.openmoko.org unmaintained?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Martin Šenkeřík [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using projects without any problems. Yes I use svn, I use news, I use releases, forum... Everything works. When posting public key, you have to wait a little bit, as it is maintained by cron script. If it still doesn't work, check if you entered correct key. At first I have some trouble with it, but now it's ok. Give it one more try ;-) Martin I am not sure if my problem is related to projects.om.org cron actions. I'm successfully authenticated (i guess), nevertheless my login session hangs after greetings of openmoko.org Debian shell system: ... debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. debug1: Sending environment. debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8 Linux projects.openmoko.org 2.6.18-028test015.1+31-ovz-smp #1 SMP Tue Feb 6 20:33:47 CET 2007 i686 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. . The shell never is raised at this point, the login session is hanged. -- Javi Roman ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1, alarms and unsuspending
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:04:28 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those curious: I seem to have been able to fix the echo issue by setting the following in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state Mono Playback Volume = 85 I lost the original state file, but I used this one as base: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032337.html Now only the alarm clock issue remains (in my case). I will force myself to use the phone as regular phone for one day For the alarm, I just did some testing: it seems atd behaves as it should, and since the phone unsuspends on time, I decided to play around a bit. So I created a shell script: -- #!/bin/sh # unsuspend echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/flowcontrolled # let unsuspend sink in a bit sleep 15 # now play a sound export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/lib/ /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin/mediaplayer /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav # sleep 5 secs and play it again sleep 5 /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin/mediaplayer /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav # remove it from spool dir, so it won't launch again rm $0 Then I copied this script to /var/spool/at, renamed it to the time I want it to start (perl is your friend here to convert time to epoch seconds) and triggered at (echo /var/spool/at/trigger). Now I let my phone suspend, and on the time I want it, the phone unsuspends, waits exactly 15 secs (scripted) and then plays the wav files as intended. So this leads me to believe that the method used in the alarm clock is either broken or not adjusted to work with later qtopia versions. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
sön 2008-10-05 klockan 21:04 +1030 skrev Rod Whitby: Previdi Roberto wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) if i issue a make update openembedded complains that it don't know where to update from... the Makefile was updated to match this. Did you run make update-makefile and try again? i tried but the makefile just doesn't have the update-makefile target.. Apologies for that - the FSO makefile updates itself automatically as part of the normal make update target. So if you'd done that you should have got the new makefile. Is this why http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/ doesn't produce daily builds any more? (guess it's not) / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:02:12 +0200 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bow before your freerunner, pay it respect as you would do to a Greek God and let it suspend ... Hmm. So no garlic, no dancing on your left foot or magic spells??? uh no, that is for druids and ancient gods of nature. The Greeks were always more modern :-) No seriously, I didn't do anything. I just tried it again: let it suspend (albeit only for a few seconds), call et voila: phone back to life. I'll try it again tomorrow. You never know. ;-) Paul Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner loading in USB host mode?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi there, | I am thinking about trying switch the FR (running Debian) to USB host | mode, put in a USB hub and connect a external USB Disk, a keyboard, a | mouse and the USB charger that comes with the FR. Would that work, | that is, can the FR be charged while being in host mode so the battery | doesn't get drained at once by the external drive? You can do it, but you need to be in logical host mode ~ - echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode but NOT electrically in host mode ~ - echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode The reason is that part of the deal of being electrically in host mode disconnects the USB socket V+ from the PMU, that alone will defeat the possibility of charging no matter what else you do. Another side effect of not being electrically in host mode is you need to externally add 2 x 15K pulldown resistors, one on D+ and the other on D-, with that you should be able to have the external power, charging, and USB devices all at the same time. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjpFCgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp8UwCZAVTxn5Urd5iKJESzDFA/qJtA GboAnjB9Ob9BgBAVXiFuSPDyple4Jar6 =uTVf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: QTextended 4.4.1
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:09:23 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:01:22 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:56:04 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:31 +0200 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:02:35 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I haven't had any issues with bluetooth or waking up from suspended for a call (haven't tried sms before). However, my issues are: (...) Wait a minute: Does that mean your phone wakes up from incoming calls when in suspend mode??? I have the latest rootfs and the latest kernel installed and my phone does NOT wake up. Confused ... What did you do to make this work? bow before your freerunner, pay it respect as you would do to a Greek God and let it suspend ... No seriously, I didn't do anything. I just tried it again: let it suspend (albeit only for a few seconds), call et voila: phone back to life. Very strange ... I have used this - qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 - uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and the FR does indeed NOT wake up from incoming calls. I've tried this several times but no luck. BTW: Is there any other distribution where this works reliably? Best regards, Nick I've heard before that people were having issues with this, but me personally never experienced this ... I'm using the same versions as you do (uimage and rootfs), so I'm not exactly sure why this is happening ... maybe it is provider related, or sim card ... beats me ... Well, what I am interested in: Is this something that should work? Or is it something that normally does not work and you are only lucky that it works in your case? And: Is there any other distribution - 2008.9, Debian, FSO etc. - where this works _reliably_? I have searched the archives but it's entirely unclear to me whether this is an issue or not. Best regards, Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
2008/10/6 Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We were thinking about how to handle timezones in the FSO framework and decided we would like to be able to detect the time zone automatically based on the current location. I've search for a database with the necessary information, but i only found a commercial provider which doesn't allow redistribution. Does anyone have an idea how we could solve this problem? sounds like information that could be managed in the openstreetmap database. it is after all geodata, and osm is pretty relaxed as to what info is added if you added a key to the wiki through the usual discussion/voting progress and talked it up on the osm-talk mailing list, i bet you could have it populated very quickly, and it would be a very non-restrictive license how many discrete time zones are there after all? can't be more than 100? i understand william's reticence, but so long as the data is kept up to date and/or there's a way to override it, there should be no problems - nz dst has changed again recently and the some older phones have had some problems, so i know where he's coming from ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[u-boot] Unable to boot issue (debian?)
I have placed the latest gta02v5 and up u-boot into my NAND boot section, and when I try to boot I only get a Boot option and it fails to boot (something about mtdparts variable not set). My NOR can boot into my newly flashed FDOM image, but whenever I flash the gta02v5 and up u-boot I get the same results. I've even zero filled my NAND u-boot section and tried to reflash a new u-boot. This issue first occured when I was trying to configure my NAND u-boot to boot debian from an SD card. Can anyone help? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
u-splash
I've got a question on splash screen changes. I've got a new splash screen that I want to flash onto my FreeRunner. I follow all the directions i can find at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Configuring_the_boot_splash_screens and http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/splash/README and http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/splash/. Since my new splash image is roughly 0xfff0 in size, greater than 0x5000, it seems I need to change env settings within uboot. (on reboot I only see the top half or so of the image) So I download and compile neocon, connect to my FR, and issue the commands: setenv splashimage nand read.e 0x3200 splash 0xfff0\; unzip 0x3200 0x880 0x96000 saveenv which it accepts. Then I power down and back up, and I can still only see the top portion of my splash image - clearly it's either not saving or not loading past a certain number of bytes. By playing around in Gimp I'm able to, for example, save the image as 32-color indexed, and as a result see about 60% of the image during initial boot, instead of the roughly 45% I can see when saved as the 128-color indexed specified in the wiki. Is there a limit somewhere that I missed regarding splash image flash size? Or have I got something wrong in the setenv? I took what was listed on the wiki page and altered it as described, changing 0x5000 to 0xfff0 to encompass the size of my splash.gz and substituting 0x880 as the proper address for FreeRunner. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
led blinking during suspend?
In the LED software specification: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs one wouldn't be able to tell if the phone is OFF or in SUSPEND mode. All LEDs are specified off in both modes. I think it would be useful to be able to differentiate between the two, but perhaps, it is technically impossible to do LED brightness while in suspend? Anybody know? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:53:48 +1300, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/6 Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We were thinking about how to handle timezones in the FSO framework and decided we would like to be able to detect the time zone automatically based on the current location. I've search for a database with the necessary information, but i only found a commercial provider which doesn't allow redistribution. Does anyone have an idea how we could solve this problem? sounds like information that could be managed in the openstreetmap database. it is after all geodata, and osm is pretty relaxed as to what info is added if you added a key to the wiki through the usual discussion/voting progress and talked it up on the osm-talk mailing list, i bet you could have it populated very quickly, and it would be a very non-restrictive license how many discrete time zones are there after all? can't be more than 100? i understand william's reticence, but so long as the data is kept up to date and/or there's a way to override it, there should be no problems - nz dst has changed again recently and the some older phones have had some problems, so i know where he's coming from This will benefit from some global configurability at some point. Specifically, controlling whether things 'happen' in GMT vs 'home' timezone vs 'local' timezone (local to appointment or local to the FR's current geospatial position) should be possible to set as a global option, then override for example for specific appointments, etc. As well as telling the FR whether it should auto-adjust to local timezone, display a second clock, whatever. Anyone who's ever tried to coordinate meetings with people on the other side of the planet, let alone done so while themselves hopping from one timezone to another, likely understands the need for great flexibility here. If I live in US eastern timezone, have an 'appointment' set for a phone conference to Berlin at 11am Berlin time, and the night before the appointment I travel to US pacific timezone, it should just work and alert me at the appropriate time, IN BERLIN, regardless of what timezone I'm presently in, and regardless of whether I've opted for my clock to display 'home' timezone when I'm traveling instead of 'local' timezone of my destination. The trick of course, as with all such things, is to achieve this without undue complexity for the user. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Volume
I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:38:14 +0200, Markus Huggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard Did you install frameworkd from fso repository and its dependencies? Worked for me. Markus On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:55:33 +0200 Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm trying to get FSO working beneath the Raster-Image. I installed zhone. That drew in a lot of dependencies, which is fine. However, I couldn't connect to DBUS, even though dbus is installed, but frameworkd wasn't. (Why itsn't it a dependency of of zhone?) Now, I don't have any sound in zhone. No ring tones, I can't hear anyone talking. Rasters alarm is working though. what package am I missing here? Richard I'm in a similar place. Starting with Raster's new image (pretty and lightweight, BTW) I added zhone and frameworkd, but I have no sound within zhone, no audio either direction in calls. Is there some other package required that handles the audio states, or what? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
Hi! On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 02:57:06PM +0200, Jan Lübbe wrote: We were thinking about how to handle timezones in the FSO framework and decided we would like to be able to detect the time zone automatically based on the current location. I've search for a database with the necessary information, but i only found a commercial provider which doesn't allow redistribution. Does anyone have an idea how we could solve this problem? Not really what you are looking for, but maybe interesting anyway... * zone.tab file in the tzdata package: /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab [1] * The World Factbook: Standard Time Zones of the World [2] Greetings, Sascha [1] ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz [2] https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/reference_maps/pdf/time_zones.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume
On my FR the settings get restored after restart. Same with the /etc/resolv.conf Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:59:30 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Volume On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: led blinking during suspend?
Sorry for not answering your questions, just making suggestions instead. I would find it rather cool if the red LED would blink on missed calls and the blue one on missed messages. There is no need to make a difference between a turned off NEO and a suspended one, because once power management is mature enough you won't actually power it off anyways. (Except if you _want_ to miss calls, but you could always put it into silent mode than..) Just my thoughts.. and everyone thinks different ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume
its only the resolv.conf wich is after booting empty. I thought it's the same with the state files but isn't. Thank you. On my FR the settings get restored after restart. Same with the /etc/resolv.conf Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:59:30 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Volume On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:28:19 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Raster, I don't think I was exactly clear on using the email database. What I was thinking is that you could run a simple program on your desktop computer and do a frequency analysis of the mails ( and contacts) that you have on your PC. Same with chat logs. Then merge that (somehow) into the database on the phone, say in the personal. i know - i don't think that's a great idea. it'd be full of typos! :) if it's going to pollute the dictionary with typos... they should be the user's own! :) btw - i added the first/last names in and man did completion quality go down. too many names. a lot of them can be strange and look nonsensical when you actually use the dict with it all in - it suggests lots of garbage (so now suggestion lists are huge and most of them are entire junk as they are some bizarre name). Daniel Willmann wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:34:28 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:37:58 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I used to have a bunch of them when I was doing a NLG ( natural Language generation) pet project. I sent you a link to US names as well. from the US census. For personal dictionaries, people could just run a simple word frequency analysis on their archived email,( there are GPL programs that do this I believe, but its dead easy to write yourself) and import their email contacts into the database. in fact that is the idea of the 3 dictionaries the keyboard has. it has system (which is base language - eg english), personal (any words they type in at all go in here - they inherit frequency they had before but now gain in count as they get used more), and.. generated dictionary - ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/data.dic - this file is expected to be regularly generated from the users sms's, emails, contact list etc. containing words from their every-day activity - so that friend with a strange name... gets their name into the dictionary pool this way. :) Is there a way to tie into bash_completion when we are on a terminal? That should be fun :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: discouraged: projects.openmoko.org unmaintained?
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:17:07 +0200 Martin Šenkeřík [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I am using projects without any problems. Yes I use svn, I use news, I use releases, forum... Everything works. When posting public key, you have to wait a little bit, as it is maintained by cron script. If it still doesn't work, check if you entered correct key. At first I have some trouble with it, but now it's ok. Give it one more try ;-) this is a problem that happens often enough - projects.om needs a a reboot i think (i think that was the fix of last resort last time), but this has happened every now and again and will keep happening as i understand its some issue with pam sometimes and ssh and maybe mysql or something - not sure, but the result is that for hours or days you'll be stuck unless you file a trac ticket with om's admin team - and then they need to get around to it. as such i moved illume off projects.om myself after yet another incident of this (which basically meant for hours i was stuck not being able to work as i couldn't build an update to test as OE feeds off public svn and i couldn't commit my changes and up the svnrev to rebuild and test on the device). but i have the luxury of having a rather hefty and well maintained svn server on enlightenment.org to use - which i also have admin access too (which to date has been up continually 24/7 without hassles). it also made sense that illume can track efl and e much better being in the same spot and building with the same srcrev thus staying in sync. but that's me :) Martin On 10/5/08, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have just created a project in projects.openmoko.org. I solved the Permission denied (publickey) message, with the public key solution, nevertheless I am unable to log into my ssh account, and unable to checkout my project. I have looked for solutions in google and I have run into this thread: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-devel/2008/8/22/3034484 this is a common problem with projects.om.org - ssh+svn hangs and the solutions bandied about have been use google code or sourceforge etc. Please, is it really true that projects.openmoko.org is unusable? -- Javi Roman ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
Fredrik Wendt wrote: Is this why http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/ doesn't produce daily builds any more? (guess it's not) No, that's due to OE having a flag day TMPDIR ABI change requiring everything to be rebuilt from scratch on the autobuilder. I froze the feeds while this is happening so people don't get a half-baked result. As soon as building is successful again, I will unfreeze them. At the moment, fso-testing-image and fso-unstable-image pass but fso-testing-packages and fso-unstable-packages fail on liburi-perl. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Free time zone map data
Jan Luebbe wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:15 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: In Australia we change DST on a per state basis - we are 3 weeks behind in this to Eastern states, and guess where the carriers are based, and what happened on many/most mobiles here last night ... The way it should work is based on the geographical location. The location then needs to be mapped to tzdata entry (which should contain all relevant DST information). One problem is when you are near a border, and the 'phone switches to a cell on the other side of the border, in the other time zone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:38:14 +0200, Markus Huggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard Did you install frameworkd from fso repository and its dependencies? Worked for me. Markus On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:55:33 +0200 Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm trying to get FSO working beneath the Raster-Image. I installed zhone. That drew in a lot of dependencies, which is fine. However, I couldn't connect to DBUS, even though dbus is installed, but frameworkd wasn't. (Why itsn't it a dependency of of zhone?) Now, I don't have any sound in zhone. No ring tones, I can't hear anyone talking. Rasters alarm is working though. what package am I missing here? Richard I'm in a similar place. Starting with Raster's new image (pretty and lightweight, BTW) I added zhone and frameworkd, but I have no sound within zhone, no audio either direction in calls. Is there some other package required that handles the audio states, or what? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Thanks, Maybe you could work with micheal to put this on the wiki. Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Mathias, I even took it one step further. I can not get it to work properly on channel 11, so i set my accesspoint to channel 1. And i changed the script a little: Exec=xterm -e ifconfig eth0 down ; iwconfig eth0 txpower off channel 0 ; while killall wpa_supplicant; do echo 'Killing wpa_sup'; done ; killall udhcpc ; wpa_supplicant -i eth0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -B; sleep 10; udhcpc Now it is working every time. I am using 2008.latest (081004) and a linksys WAP54G accesspoint, running Firmware Version: 3.05. in mixed mode, broadcast enabled, encryption WPA-Personal, passphrase without a space charachter in it. ( i am no sure if any of this matters, but it gives the settings with which i have it working) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:11:39 +0200 Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) coo. btw - i will eventually one by one suck in frameworkd and other apps - but i want to be very high quality about this - only include in the base what absolutely works or works well - or what i'm directly developing at the time (as i then have direct ability time etc. to make it work well). for now it's just a start. needs much more polish. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: led blinking during suspend?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | In the LED software specification: | | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs | | one wouldn't be able to tell if the phone is OFF or in SUSPEND mode. All | LEDs are specified off in both modes. I think it would be useful to be | able to differentiate between the two, but perhaps, it is technically | impossible to do LED brightness while in suspend? Anybody know? It's possible to leave a GTA02 LED lit during suspend, but without waking-suspending each time, from PMU RTC interrupt for example, not to have it blink. It sounds a pretty hairy thing to attempt and it will halve suspend life at least to have an LED lit during it. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjpUfcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoriwCfa4ZifUM3T0Ojj/nBDcGkCwvh +wYAoIoeBRay07lGYLPhp6LpS9hPQXDx =0BMe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware crash
Yesterday I experienced a crash of the GSM firmware - my Freerunner started to vibrate and there was a message on-screen that stated that the GSM Firmware had crashed and that I would be unable to use phone functionality. Is this a known bug? I got this once, or twice but I wasn't ever able to fix this without rebooting the phone (also when connected to it via ssh). Any tip? I reply to myself, today I've got it again... I was in my car so I had to do it via xterm but it works. If you get a modem crash simply do this to get back the phone functionality: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on killall qpe restart qtopia -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Spelling issue Noted. RE: first and last names: I suppose it was worth the try?; Was it primarily the last names (US is a nation of immigrants) that gave the most trouble? or first names as well? The last names file is huge in comparision to the first name files, FWIW. and Looking at the list of names and graphing frequency versus rank, it looks like it follows a power law distribution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_law) to get to 80% of each gender you need : 313 male names, 811 female names). The top 100 male names is 60% of all male names. The top 100 female names is 43% of all female names. last names, the top 100 are only 18% of the population. FWIW, word frequency is known to follow a power law distribution, so I'm not surprised that proper names appear to follow a power law. Ok, no more backseat driving. Hope all is well Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:28:19 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Raster, I don't think I was exactly clear on using the email database. What I was thinking is that you could run a simple program on your desktop computer and do a frequency analysis of the mails ( and contacts) that you have on your PC. Same with chat logs. Then merge that (somehow) into the database on the phone, say in the personal. i know - i don't think that's a great idea. it'd be full of typos! :) if it's going to pollute the dictionary with typos... they should be the user's own! :) btw - i added the first/last names in and man did completion quality go down. too many names. a lot of them can be strange and look nonsensical when you actually use the dict with it all in - it suggests lots of garbage (so now suggestion lists are huge and most of them are entire junk as they are some bizarre name). Daniel Willmann wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:34:28 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:37:58 -0700 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I used to have a bunch of them when I was doing a NLG ( natural Language generation) pet project. I sent you a link to US names as well. from the US census. For personal dictionaries, people could just run a simple word frequency analysis on their archived email,( there are GPL programs that do this I believe, but its dead easy to write yourself) and import their email contacts into the database. in fact that is the idea of the 3 dictionaries the keyboard has. it has system (which is base language - eg english), personal (any words they type in at all go in here - they inherit frequency they had before but now gain in count as they get used more), and.. generated dictionary - ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/data.dic - this file is expected to be regularly generated from the users sms's, emails, contact list etc. containing words from their every-day activity - so that friend with a strange name... gets their name into the dictionary pool this way. :) Is there a way to tie into bash_completion when we are on a terminal? That should be fun :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
microSD single ext2 or ext3 partition boot?
Hello,
I'm a new Neo Freerunner user. I got it a few weeks ago and signed up for
service to use with it on Saturday.
When i first tried loading a distribution onto a microsd card, i hadn't yet
read how to ssh into the phone, and tried setting one up by having it connected
to my computer in a card reader. That didn't work so well, and i still haven't
figured out why. I think it would be handy to be able to setup a microsd
without booting into a different distribution in the flash memory and then
using ssh to get in.
Then I updated my u-boot and flashed the phone using neotool to try out a few
different distributions. I still haven't decided on one.
After i found out how to ssh into the phone i was able to load qtopia 4.3.3 on
the 512 microsd that came with the freerunner. It works ok, though for some
reason my ear piece speaker wasn't playing sound. I tried qtextended 4.4.1
flashed on the phone and it works ok so far. The ear piece speaker does
function, but there is some GSM buzzing noise for the people on the other end.
Also I'd like to be able to get the phone setup so i can boot off of a microsd
with a single ext2 or ext3 partition that takes up the entire microsd card.
Since the updated uboot works with ext2 partitions it should be possible to do.
Would this work?
setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD (ext2): setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base}
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5 \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\;
ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200
I'm thinking that the 0x3200 might indicate an offset to where the
partition starts when you have an 8mb vfat partition first. Should it be
changed to 0x0?
I haven't tried FSO or FDOM yet, but will be giving them a try soon.
-feywulf
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Re: microSD single ext2 or ext3 partition boot?
On 06/10/2008, at 11:49 AM, feywulf wrote:
setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD (ext2): setenv bootargs \$
{bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5 \$
{mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 \$
{sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200
I think it would. For me $bootargs_base also contained root= and
rootfstype= pointing at the flash which was giving the kernel some
confusion having them specified twice, so if you have problems with
it check that.
I'm thinking that the 0x3200 might indicate an offset to where
the partition starts when you have an 8mb vfat partition first.
Should it be changed to 0x0?
No. 0x3200 is the memory address the kernel will be loaded to.
So ext2load reads the file $sd_image_name into memory starting at
address 0x3200. Then bootm 0x320 jumps there to start the
kernel running.
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Re: The Lost Openmoko Community ( what's a community manager to do?)
Stroller let's assume it is Possible. I had a long chat with Sean today. We both read the community list daily and our number one topic of conversation was the Lost community thread. Sean asked me what I thought of having a community manager. ( he was reading my mind again) On one hand, I said, Stoller has some good points ( as always). It would be a bit like herding cats, and in someway we want interesting cats, wandering off to do things that A) we didnt think of and B) we disagree with. basically because we don't know everything. On the other hand, we do recognize the benefit to be had from a little bit of structure. I have my ideas about what a community manager would do to organize and mobilize, But before I put those ideas down, I'd like to throw it open to the community. Question: what functions do you see a community manager performing. Write his job spec. ( hint hint) Stroller wrote: Hi Risto, I think you depend upon Openmoko Inc. to provide the community. Or perhaps direction for the community. I don't know if that's possible. Community is, by definition, a bunch of different people, with different ideas and different requirements. Sure there may be some consensus, but there will also be plenty of people pulling in different directions, too. Additionally, I think most of us, as Linux geeks, disagree with Openmoko Inc. on what software for our phones should look like. Openmoko want to sell their next generation of phones to little old ladies and teenagers, and are prepared to sacrifice complexity to do that. And they won't be asking the community how we want our phones - they will be following their own vision to achieve this. I won't by any means be relying on official distros to do what I want. But what Openmoko HAS given us is wonderful, wonderful phone hardware which runs fully open-source software. I have realised that any criticism I might make of Openmoko must pale in comparison beside this - they're the ONLY people who have yet done so. (Perhaps we might mention the no-longer available Trolltech Greenphone, but that was only a run of 1000 units or so). I appreciate that if you're not already a Linux / OSS fanboi, then the above statement might not mean much. What good is fully open-source software, if it doesn't work, you say? Well, the benefit is that WE can make it work, and we don't have to reply upon Openmoko to help us. Considering that the Freerunner is only - what? - 3 months old, the community has made leaps bounds already. As others have pointed out, you can make a bug report over a spelling mistake, and I point to David Samblas' distro as an example of what the community has produced already. I think that your problems stem from looking at the Openmoko community from the outside in. Only 3 months ago the first 5,000 or 10,000 units of the Freerunner suddenly hit the market - of course the direction of development is going to be a mess. It's going to be impossible to look at just a wiki or two and try and get a handle of everything that's going on. And one shouldn't expect the impossible from Openmoko - to expect a unified direction of development you are asking someone to herd cats. Personally I don't want a single true distro, because we might end up with Gnome for phones. I prefer KDE and others here prefer Ice or whatever. Rereading some of your questions, I did feel the same way myself a couple of months ago. why don't the developers feel ok to contribute directly to 2007.x and 2008.x but 'fork' their own distros? I have to say that I asked this myself, and I came to realise that that wouldn't suit the Openmoko vision for their own software. Just as you can't submit patches to Gnome to add right-click options if it doesn't meet with their usability specification or ask KDE to remove options because they confuse my grandmother, some aspects of the Openmoko vision are indeed closed. But this free software lark gives us the CHOICE! I feel that software images from Raster David Samblas, the work being undertaken on SHR and the recent Qtopia release are all testaments to the community surrounding Openmoko's device(s), and if you appreciated how rapidly the situation with the software distos has improved in only a few weeks, you would realise that there are great things ahead for this platform. Yes, presently it may be frustrating for you, but even the person who makes a blog post about configuring their wifi under disto X, or changing the theme so that Navit displays better... those people are making a difference and improving the Freerunner environment for everyone. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Hello, tangogps and fso-gpsd were installed from http://ftp2.de.debian.org, but I get no fix. In the Trip tab tango shows allways an alternating GPS Time (Tue 1999-11-30 00:00:00 or Fri 1999-11-31 01:00:00) and Satelites: 11/0. The rest is zero. The zhone internal gps appl. shows at the start view at all items N/A, and at the satelite view are about 10 satelites shown. The FR ran the whole evening next to a window in a wooden house, but it got no fix. I couldn't remove the SD card of using Debian installed on it :-}. Is my FR one of these ones with the SD card problem? Or is it also fixed by Debian distro? How can I check my GPS? How can I bring it up running? Sorry for all these question, but I couldn't find any solution in the wikis. You could try a variation on the script at the bottom of the page below. You'll need to disable any gps daemon(s) you may have insstalled before running it or they'll conflict. The script was intended to find the effect of the SD clock idle and drive strength kernel settings, cycling through them in turn and measuring time to first fix. Be warned - it'll take a long time to complete if run unmodified! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_GPS_Software_Fix_TTFF_Measurement_Test ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
