NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-10-31 Thread Dale Maggee
All,

Just a quick note to announce a new version of NeoTool.

Life has interfered with my ability to work on this lately, so there are 
only a couple of smallish changes:

- Changed information at pre-flash prompt to include instructions for 
how to get to the NOR menu.
eliminated any mention of NAND, as everything can be flashed from NOR.

- bugfix - when user selects a filename under 'customize backup 
filenames' and then presses cancel,
the selected filename was set to nothing.

- NeoTool now checks that the path of backup files exist, and attempts 
to create it if it doesn't.
This allows you to organise your backups in a folder hierarchy, i.e 
set the backup filename to:
/data/openmoko/backups/{date}/{image}_backup
and the {date} directory will be created by NeoTool, assuming 
/data/openmoko/backups exists
and you have permission.

Info / Download link:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool

Enjoy,
-Dale

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Re: General GPS Question

2008-10-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 30/10/2008 19:44, Matthias Camenzind wrote:
 I thought right now near same like you. I thought about the speed of 
 satellites,
 But also right now i had another idea. With the signal form two satellites, 
 and a
 known high over sea it should be possible to locate you on north or south of
 earth (only two possibilities).
 This would be nice if you go on a mountain and you are standing in front of a
 signpost (google translated) with meters over Sea value to get faster your 
 first fix.

You won't get a faster first fix because you concentrate on two 
satellites. The ublox receiver is able to track up to (AFAIR) 16 
satellites at the same time. The *main* way to speedup the TTFF is to 
have almanac and optionally ephemeris available on the FR. Almanacs are 
valid for one week so it's easy to make sure you have up to date almanac 
before you go on a mountain :-)

 A simple
 question Are you in the North of earth? would be enough to get only one 
 possibility.

Unless you did a long plane travel before switching on your FR, the last 
known position would be enough. Many satellites will be visible in 
Madrid and in Paris at the same time for example.

Abdel.



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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
Hi all,

Dale, thanks for the new version.

Here is the Ubuntu package request for NeoTool
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/288747

And almost off topic, request to Ubuntu to semi automatically setup USB
networking and mount partitions of an OpenMoko device
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/289548

The latter has stranded a bit but I'm sure that, in combination with
NeoTool expertise, something like this can be developed. Any ideas how
to continue on this?

Regards,

Pander

Dale Maggee wrote:
 All,
 
 Just a quick note to announce a new version of NeoTool.
 
 Life has interfered with my ability to work on this lately, so there are 
 only a couple of smallish changes:
 
 - Changed information at pre-flash prompt to include instructions for 
 how to get to the NOR menu.
 eliminated any mention of NAND, as everything can be flashed from NOR.
 
 - bugfix - when user selects a filename under 'customize backup 
 filenames' and then presses cancel,
 the selected filename was set to nothing.
 
 - NeoTool now checks that the path of backup files exist, and attempts 
 to create it if it doesn't.
 This allows you to organise your backups in a folder hierarchy, i.e 
 set the backup filename to:
 /data/openmoko/backups/{date}/{image}_backup
 and the {date} directory will be created by NeoTool, assuming 
 /data/openmoko/backups exists
 and you have permission.
 
 Info / Download link:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool
 
 Enjoy,
 -Dale
 
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[debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-10-31 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]

Greetings,
I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like 
to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux' /dev 
and connect to it as to ordinary serial port.

I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages.

Any ideas? Thank you in advance.
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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Girish Revadigar
Hi,

I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed
onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on
my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run
on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same
HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run
using the cacao, but it gives the following error:

output when run with cacao:
---
# cacao HelloWorld
LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
Aborted

output when run with jamvm:
---
# jamvm HelloWorld
Exception occured while vm initialising.
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class


Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives
the same result:

output when tried to run jar file with cacao:

# cacao -cp -jar test.jar
LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
Aborted

output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
--
# jamvm -jar test.jar
Exception occured while vm initialising.
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.

Thank you
Girish


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well,
 on standard 2008.9 or so, you should be able to install

 opkg install jamvm

 to start with. Starting a visual java program from the command line
 (logging in via ssh) would then be:

 export DISPLAY=:0.0  jamvm -jar myJar.jar

 If you are running Debian, you can even install classpath, openjdk,
 harmony etc, but they tend to be quite slow (but Java5)

 HTH

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 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Girish Revadigar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Max,
 
   Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like
 we
  need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please
  suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko?
 
  Thank you
  Girish
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?
 
  please update if necessary...
 
  Girish Revadigar schrieb:
   Hi,
  
   I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI
 application
   on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the
 newly
   brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM
   for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my
 openmoko
   to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
   install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
   valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
  
   Thank you
   Regards
   Girish
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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Peter Neubauer
Mmh,
it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave
Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the
classes.zip file of your JRE using

cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar

HTH, probably others on this list know more ...

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Girish Revadigar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed
 onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on
 my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run
 on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same
 HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run
 using the cacao, but it gives the following error:

 output when run with cacao:
 --
 -
 # cacao HelloWorld
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted

 output when run with jamvm:
 ---
 # jamvm HelloWorld
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class


 Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives
 the same result:

 output when tried to run jar file with cacao:
 
 # cacao -cp -jar test.jar
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted

 output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
 --
 # jamvm -jar test.jar
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

 What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.

 Thank you
 Girish

 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi Girish,

 I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG
 mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on
 planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near
 future.

 Cheers,

 Joseph


 [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/
 [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page






 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Max,
 
   Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like
  we
  need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you
  please
  suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko?
 
  Thank you
  Girish
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?
 
  please update if necessary...
 
  Girish Revadigar schrieb:
   Hi,
  
   I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI
   application
   on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the
   newly
   brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any
   JVM
   for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my
   openmoko
   to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
   install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
   valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
  
   Thank you
   Regards
   Girish
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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Max Giesbert
have you tried compiling the java class on the freerunner?

Girish Revadigar schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm
 installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small
 HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which
 prints Hello World when run on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command.
 After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device
 (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the
 following error:
 
 output when run with cacao:
 --
 -
 # cacao HelloWorld
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted
 
 output when run with jamvm:
 ---
 # jamvm HelloWorld
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class
 
 
 Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also
 gives the same result:
 
 output when tried to run jar file with cacao:
 
 # cacao -cp -jar test.jar
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted
 
 output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
 --
 # jamvm -jar test.jar
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class
 
 What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.
 
 Thank you
 Girish
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?
 
 please update if necessary...
 
 Girish Revadigar schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI
 application
  on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the
 newly
  brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM
  for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my
 openmoko
  to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
  install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
  valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
 
  Thank you
  Regards
  Girish
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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Girish Revadigar
No, i have compiled the java program on my pc and after I got the class
file, i copied the class file to freerunner using scp from my pc.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 have you tried compiling the java class on the freerunner?

 Girish Revadigar schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm
  installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small
  HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which
  prints Hello World when run on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command.
  After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device
  (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the
  following error:
 
  output when run with cacao:
  --
  -
  # cacao HelloWorld
  LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
  LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
  LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
  Aborted
 
  output when run with jamvm:
  ---
  # jamvm HelloWorld
  Exception occured while vm initialising.
  java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class
 
 
  Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also
  gives the same result:
 
  output when tried to run jar file with cacao:
  
  # cacao -cp -jar test.jar
  LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
  LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
  LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
  Aborted
 
  output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
  --
  # jamvm -jar test.jar
  Exception occured while vm initialising.
  java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class
 
  What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.
 
  Thank you
  Girish
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?
 
  please update if necessary...
 
  Girish Revadigar schrieb:
   Hi,
  
   I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI
  application
   on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the
  newly
   brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any
 JVM
   for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my
  openmoko
   to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need
 to
   install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
   valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
  
   Thank you
   Regards
   Girish
   +91 99867 64809
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
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Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

2008-10-31 Thread Alastair Johnson
Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 10:02:08AM -0400, Stefan Monnier 
 escribió:
 
 TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps
 through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-(
 Mine says it's version 0.9.2, so I might have gotten it from elsewhere.

 I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am;
 how can I prove this if GSM is really working?
 You'll see when it knows.  Also look at the I/J/K numbers at the end of
 the bottom line, they indicate how many satellites are in view and how
 many are in sync.

 You probably need to manually turn the GPS on in the Settings, sadly.
 
 Hi,
 
 Any idea about this problem:
 
 I'm using tangogps-0.9.3-r1 and  gpsd-2.34-r9 in the GTA-02 FreeRunner
 with Om2008.9; sometimes I get (with clean sky) a Fix after some seconds,
 some times not even after 20 minutes in the same location; the status
 line of tangoGPS shows a lot of sattelites but none used of them, for
 enexample 12/0/0.0 What could I do? Thx

I used to see odd behaviour a bit like that from gpsd when the gps was 
powered up after gpsd was started. To save a bit of power I took to 
running gpsd only while the gps was powered up, starting and stopping 
both from a script. After I started doing that I stopped seeing the odd 
behaviour, but it could have been coincidence as there was a lot going 
on around gps in those days.

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Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-10-31 Thread Alexandre Girard
Hi,

I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider  
(Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like _@.

Has anybody got the same behavior?
Is it coming from the phone or from the provider?

Also, sms duplicate in the message box each time the phone switch on,  
I suppose it's a bug, but I'm not sure where to report it.

Have a nice day,

Alex

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[Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

If I'd enter the PIN three times wrong, the SIM would get locked (luckily
until today I did not hit the three); in a normal cellphone one would
use the PUK to unlock the SIM; how this would be possible with the FR in
Om2008.9? Thx

matthias
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Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 10:02:08AM -0400, Stefan Monnier 
escribió:

  TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps
  through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-(
 
 Mine says it's version 0.9.2, so I might have gotten it from elsewhere.
 
  I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am;
  how can I prove this if GSM is really working?
 
 You'll see when it knows.  Also look at the I/J/K numbers at the end of
 the bottom line, they indicate how many satellites are in view and how
 many are in sync.
 
 You probably need to manually turn the GPS on in the Settings, sadly.

Hi,

Any idea about this problem:

I'm using tangogps-0.9.3-r1 and  gpsd-2.34-r9 in the GTA-02 FreeRunner
with Om2008.9; sometimes I get (with clean sky) a Fix after some seconds,
some times not even after 20 minutes in the same location; the status
line of tangoGPS shows a lot of sattelites but none used of them, for
enexample 12/0/0.0 What could I do? Thx

matthias

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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Girish Revadigar
Hi,

I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed
onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on
my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run
on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same
HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run
using the cacao, but it gives the following error:

output when run with cacao:
---
# cacao HelloWorld
LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
Aborted

output when run with jamvm:
---
# jamvm HelloWorld
Exception occured while vm initialising.
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class


Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives
the same result:

output when tried to run jar file with cacao:

# cacao -cp -jar test.jar
LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
Aborted

output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
--
# jamvm -jar test.jar
Exception occured while vm initialising.
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.

Thank you
Girish


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?

 please update if necessary...

 Girish Revadigar schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application
  on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly
  brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM
  for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko
  to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
  install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
  valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
 
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Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 11:05:46AM +, Alastair Johnson 
escribió:

 Any idea about this problem:
 
 I'm using tangogps-0.9.3-r1 and  gpsd-2.34-r9 in the GTA-02 FreeRunner
 with Om2008.9; sometimes I get (with clean sky) a Fix after some seconds,
 some times not even after 20 minutes in the same location; the status
 line of tangoGPS shows a lot of sattelites but none used of them, for
 enexample 12/0/0.0 What could I do? Thx
 
 I used to see odd behaviour a bit like that from gpsd when the gps was 
 powered up after gpsd was started. To save a bit of power I took to 
 running gpsd only while the gps was powered up, starting and stopping 
 both from a script. After I started doing that I stopped seeing the odd 
 behaviour, but it could have been coincidence as there was a lot going 
 on around gps in those days.

The 'gpsd' is launched at boot time by the script /etc/init.d/gpsd; I've
added support for power-on and power-off in the script before 'start'
and after 'stopping' the 'gpsd'; as well I've expanded the file
/usr/share/applications/tangogps.desktop to restart 'gpsd' before
launching 'tangogps' and to stop the 'gpsd' after end of 'tangogps' (to
save power) by this line:

   Exec=/etc/init.d/gpsd restart;tangogps;/etc/init.d/gpsd stop

this worked well in the sense of the processes itself (I've checked this
in the log files and with ps(1)); but after this change in
/usr/share/applications/tangogps.desktop the above described behaviour 
started to occur; I've revoked now the change and don't touch 'gpsd'
anymore after it was started at boot; it now works again as one expect;

it seems that 'gpsd' needs its time to sync with the stars (the
sattelites) and/or 'tangogps' does not like a freshly booted 'gpsd';
with more time I will debug the logs deeper ...

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Re: Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-10-31 Thread Alastair Johnson
Alexandre Girard wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider  
 (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like _@.
 
 Has anybody got the same behavior?
 Is it coming from the phone or from the provider?
 
 Also, sms duplicate in the message box each time the phone switch on,  
 I suppose it's a bug, but I'm not sure where to report it.

Please say which image you are using when reporting things. It is 
difficult for people to reproduce or to help you if you don't.

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Re: Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 12:24:10PM +, Alastair Johnson 
escribió:

 Please say which image you are using when reporting things. It is 
 difficult for people to reproduce or to help you if you don't.

I fully support this idea and weh should start any new Subject thread
with:

[Om2008.9] Houeston I have a problem
[Debian] Houeston I have another problem
[FOM 20081023] Houeston I have no problems
...

Thx

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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread f0rdprefect

Hi there...

I had the same situation and I did it three times wrong because I still have
another cell...

So after I did it three times wrong the PUK dialog pops up and you can enter
PUK and a new PIN. However since I was away from home, I had to learn that
you better have the PUK at once, because after all the next reboots the
dialog would never show up again and I could not use the freerunner as a
phone until I unlocked the SIM in another cell...

Cheers,

Matthias

Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 If I'd enter the PIN three times wrong, the SIM would get locked (luckily
 until today I did not hit the three); in a normal cellphone one would
 use the PUK to unlock the SIM; how this would be possible with the FR in
 Om2008.9? Thx
 
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SVG versions of openmoko-standard icons

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
Hi all,

In what repository and where exactly can I find SVG versions of
openmoko-standard icons?

What licenses applies to them? GPLv2 or LGPLv2.1? See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/License

If all this is known, I can add them to a page like
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tango_icons and from there use them in
my FDOM theme.

This is concerning these files:
.
|-- actions
|   `-- system-search.svg
|-- apps
|   |-- accessories-text-editor.svg
|   |-- call-preview.svg
|   |-- contacts.svg
|   |-- dates.svg
|   |-- help-browser.svg
|   |-- openmoko-appmanager.svg
|   |-- openmoko-calculator.svg
|   |-- openmoko-clock.svg
|   |-- openmoko-dateandtime.svg
|   |-- openmoko-dialer.svg
|   |-- openmoko-gps.svg
|   |-- openmoko-mailpreview.svg
|   |-- openmoko-messages.svg
|   |-- openmoko-photo-album.svg
|   |-- openmoko-picture-preview.svg
|   |-- openmoko-rss.svg
|   |-- openmoko-sketchbook.svg
|   |-- openmoko-soundandvideo.svg
|   |-- openmoko-system-default.svg
|   |-- openmoko-today.svg
|   |-- system-file-manager.svg
|   `-- utilities-terminal.svg
|-- categories
|   |-- applications-accessories.svg
|   |-- applications-development.svg
|   |-- applications-games.svg
|   |-- applications-internet.svg
|   |-- applications-multimedia.svg
|   |-- applications-office.svg
|   |-- applications-other.svg
|   |-- applications-system.svg
|   |-- preferences-desktop-screensaver.svg
|   `-- preferences-system.svg
`-- places
`-- start-here.svg

Thanks,

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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 05:45:07AM -0700, f0rdprefect escribió:

 
 Hi there...
 
 I had the same situation and I did it three times wrong because I still have
 another cell...
 
 So after I did it three times wrong the PUK dialog pops up and you can enter
 PUK and a new PIN. However since I was away from home, I had to learn that
 you better have the PUK at once, because after all the next reboots the
 dialog would never show up again and I could not use the freerunner as a
 phone until I unlocked the SIM in another cell...

So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple
in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out
in that moment :-)

matthias

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Re: General GPS Question

2008-10-31 Thread Stroller

On 30 Oct 2008, at 19:05, Matthias Camenzind wrote:
 
 Or if you have an altimeter with you.
 Something like this: http://www.princetonwatches.com/images/watches/53957.jpg
 Seems to be small enough to get in Gta03 or 04. :)

The blades would prevent international air-travel with any equipped  
cell-phone.  ;)

Seriously, altimeter chips have been mentioned on this list in the  
past, when proposals have been made for including an altimeter. But an  
altimeter is unlikely to reach a production Openmoko phone because the  
demand is too small.

Stroller.


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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases:
 http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html

Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 05:45:07AM -0700, f0rdprefect escribió:
 
 Hi there...

 I had the same situation and I did it three times wrong because I still have
 another cell...

 So after I did it three times wrong the PUK dialog pops up and you can enter
 PUK and a new PIN. However since I was away from home, I had to learn that
 you better have the PUK at once, because after all the next reboots the
 dialog would never show up again and I could not use the freerunner as a
 phone until I unlocked the SIM in another cell...
 
 So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple
 in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out
 in that moment :-)
 
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[FOM 20081023] Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-10-31 Thread Alexandre Girard
Using FDOM 20081023, but I think I remember this behavior with older  
image, can't confirm it.

Is there a way to get the debug log of the Message app?

El 31/10/2008, a las 13:24, Alastair Johnson escribió:

 Alexandre Girard wrote:
 Hi,

 I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider
 (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like  
 _@.

 Has anybody got the same behavior?
 Is it coming from the phone or from the provider?

 Also, sms duplicate in the message box each time the phone switch on,
 I suppose it's a bug, but I'm not sure where to report it.

 Please say which image you are using when reporting things. It is
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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 02:44:15PM +0100, Pander escribió:

 Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases:
  http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html

This matches with the strings one can see in 'qpe':

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '04'   
\*\*04\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
\*\*042\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '05'
\*\*05\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
\*\*052\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '06'
*#06#

btw: When one dial in the 'dialer' *#06# where the resulting IMEI will
be displayed?

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Re: General GPS Question

2008-10-31 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/10/31 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Seriously, altimeter chips have been mentioned on this list in the
 past, when proposals have been made for including an altimeter. But an
 altimeter is unlikely to reach a production Openmoko phone because the
 demand is too small.


I wasn't proposing that the altimeter would have to be *in* the phone. You
might have one in your wristwatch, for instance, or in your pocket...
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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 02:44:15PM +0100, Pander escribió:
 
 Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases:
  http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html
 
 This matches with the strings one can see in 'qpe':
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '04'   
 \*\*04\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
 \*\*042\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '05'
 \*\*05\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
 \*\*052\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)#
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '06'
 *#06#

Can the dialer get an extra menu to offer this functionality, not a lot
of people will be keep on learning these codes by heart. Bug report?

 btw: When one dial in the 'dialer' *#06# where the resulting IMEI will
 be displayed?

QtExtended pops up a dialogue with the IMEI code but disappears
automatically almost immediately. Can anyone test this on OM en FDOM?
Bug report?

 
   matthias


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Re: FR magifying glass (for tangoGPS, but not only)

2008-10-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
 seriously: 'software one', 'changing the resolution' and VNC are no
 options when you want to use your FR with GPS while driving a car, for
 example;

Why not?  What the difference between place the magnifying glass on the
device and enable the zoom function (or switch resolution)?


Stefan


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Re: [Debian] sound programs.. no sound from VLC

2008-10-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I've installed Audacious, Noatun, Sonata, and VLC.  Audacious is the
 only player I've been able to hear sound from, but it skips, and very
 frequently!  Noatun will not play my music, and Sonata won't add my
 music to its library even though I redirect MPD's library path.  VLC,
 however, appears to be playing the music, but I have no sound.

 I'm using mpd with the emms Emacs client.  The sound is fine, except
 when other applications (e.g. aptitude) are taking a lot of CPU; then
 there's lots of skipping and halting.

You probably need to nice it down so it has higher priority.


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Re: FR magifying glass (for tangoGPS, but not only)

2008-10-31 Thread arne anka
 Why not?  What the difference between place the magnifying glass on the
 device and enable the zoom function (or switch resolution)?

having the whole screen magnified or just a section.

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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases:
  http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html


Added to the wiki at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PIN (created for
the occasion), waiting for more input from others.

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Re: FR magifying glass (for tangoGPS, but not only)

2008-10-31 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 04:05:58PM +0100, arne anka escribió:

  Why not?  What the difference between place the magnifying glass on the
  device and enable the zoom function (or switch resolution)?
 
 having the whole screen magnified or just a section.

Ofc the whole screen :-)

(this should as well answer the question 'What the difference between
... is': no further operator actions to see all the map at once
magnified);

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QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Ben Cadieux
Hi Everyone,

It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?

Best Regards,
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Bugs from Openmoko Public Trac in Devel list?

2008-10-31 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
Since a couple of days ago I started receiving a lot of bug reports
from Openmoko Public Trac into Devel list.
Why is it so?
Personally I don't like it - if I want to see what tickets are
available I go to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/report where I can
sort them and view in defferent ways.
Now It's just a spam in my mailbox and it's hard to find meaningful
mails from actual people into all these bug reports.
Can someone explainto me whay is it happening?
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Re: Bugs from Openmoko Public Trac in Devel list?

2008-10-31 Thread Thomas White
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:29:57 +0100
Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since a couple of days ago I started receiving a lot of bug reports
 from Openmoko Public Trac into Devel list.
 Why is it so?
 Personally I don't like it - if I want to see what tickets are
 available I go to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/report where I can
 sort them and view in defferent ways.
 Now It's just a spam in my mailbox and it's hard to find meaningful
 mails from actual people into all these bug reports.
 Can someone explainto me whay is it happening?

I agree it's a little messy, but it's just John Lee clearing up a huge
backlog of old bug reports.  What we're seeing is updates as bugs are
marked as closed.  I don't think it's going to be like this for too
long...

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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Jim Ancona
Peter Neubauer wrote:
 Mmh,
 it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave
 Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the
 classes.zip file of your JRE using
 
 cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar
 
 HTH, probably others on this list know more ...

I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty 
good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was 
able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow.

Jim

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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Joseph Reeves
From memory this is, so may be completely wrong, but I'd:

opkg install --force-depends cacao
opkg install --force-depends classpath
opkg install --force-depends classpath-gtk

If I remember correctly, there was a bug in classpath that was causing
it to report a successful installation, whereas in reality it was
going wrong. Forcing all three got it to work for me.

Best of luck,



2008/10/31 Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Peter Neubauer wrote:
 Mmh,
 it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave
 Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the
 classes.zip file of your JRE using

 cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar

 HTH, probably others on this list know more ...

 I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty
 good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was
 able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow.

 Jim

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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Warren Baird
Sounds to me like you only installed the java vm, not the classpath
component.   I followed the instructions at
https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko and things worked
fine...   basically you need to do opkg update  opkg install cacao
classpath - or if you need awt/swing, change the last to 'classpath-awt'

good luck,

Warren

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed
 onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on
 my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run
 on my PC using:  java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same
 HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run
 using the cacao, but it gives the following error:

 output when run with cacao:
 ---
 # cacao HelloWorld
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted

 output when run with jamvm:
 ---
 # jamvm HelloWorld
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class


 Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives
 the same result:

 output when tried to run jar file with cacao:
 
 # cacao -cp -jar test.jar
 LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing:
 LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object
 LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ...
 Aborted

 output when tried to run jar file with jamvm:
 --
 # jamvm -jar test.jar
 Exception occured while vm initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

 What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me.

 Thank you
 Girish


 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi Girish,

 I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG
 mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on
 planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near
 future.

 Cheers,

 Joseph


 [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/
 [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page






 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Max,
 
   Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like
 we
  need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you
 please
  suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko?
 
  Thank you
  Girish
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?
 
  please update if necessary...
 
  Girish Revadigar schrieb:
   Hi,
  
   I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI
 application
   on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the
 newly
   brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any
 JVM
   for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my
 openmoko
   to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
   install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
   valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
  
   Thank you
   Regards
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Re: FSO Control - New Project and Initial Package

2008-10-31 Thread yves mahe
Hi,

nice work !

digger vermont wrote:
 
 * I'd like to launch this with a POWER button press but I can not
   figure out how to set the DISPLAY environment when launching a
   GUI with a rule in oevents.  You can try though.  Put a rule in
   /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml like this:
 
   trigger: InputEvent()
   filters:
   - HasAttr(switch, POWER)
   - HasAttr(event, pressed)
   actions: Command(fso-control)
 
1) I think we have a conflict with zhone about pressing the POWER button.
2) In the fso-control shell, the line fso-control.py don't find 
fso-control.py, even with the cd ( I have seen it with the line :

---
fso-control.py 1/home/root/fso-control1.txt 2/home/root/fso-control2.txt
---
)


For me, this lines work :

/usr/bin/fso-control

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/share/fso-control
export PYTHONPATH=`pwd`
export DISPLAY=:0
/usr/share/fso-control/fso-control.py

/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
--
-
 trigger: InputEvent()
 filters:
  - HasAttr(switch, AUX)
  - HasAttr(event, pressed)
 actions: Command('fso-control')


Friendly,
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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Maelvon HAWK
Ben Cadieux a écrit :
 Hi Everyone,

 It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
 changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?
   
Don't know exactly what was changed.

But I've tested the previous versions 4.3  4.2 and they always freeze
after a short period of use. This time I've flashed it on my GTA02, and
it seems to works well. A little too speed with the finger scrolling.

The dialer and the suspend/resume with a call seems good.

Except a keyboard disapearance sometimes, in the terminal keyboard,
cannot use the arrow, a Lan config who lost the config, cannot apply a
static configuration, come back every time at DHCP.

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Bay Area / California: Meetups, events and news

2008-10-31 Thread Consulting Goat

In October in San Francisco we had two Openmoko code sprints and one  
users group meeting - and we plan to do the same in November.  See our  
schedule  below.

Weds, Nov 12 - Code Sprint
Tues, Nov 18 - Code Sprint
Tues, Nov 25 - Users Group Mtg
Information / location:  http://www.parisoma.com/

There will also be some Openmoko folks and supporters at the Mobile  
Tech for Social Change event on November 4th in San Francisco.

Event registration:  http://mobiletechforsocialchange.eventbrite.com/
Wiki:  http://barcamp.org/MobileTechForSocialChangeSanFrancisco

Finally, we have been approved as a US distributor of the FreeRunner!   
- http://www.parisoma.com/openmoko_shop





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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Kishore
On Friday 31 Oct 2008 10:06:38 pm Maelvon HAWK wrote:
 Ben Cadieux a écrit :
  Hi Everyone,
 
  It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
  changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?
   

 Don't know exactly what was changed.

 But I've tested the previous versions 4.3  4.2 and they always freeze
 after a short period of use. This time I've flashed it on my GTA02, and
 it seems to works well. A little too speed with the finger scrolling

Those apparently came in with 4.4.1. It would be nice to know what changed 
from 4.4.1 though. I just flashed it and did not find anything obvious in the 
last hour that I have been using it.
-- 
Cheers!
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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
I've just tried 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel and it gets losts in an
infinite pile of 'blah blah Magic bitmask blah blah' so going back to 4.4.1.

Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?

Maelvon HAWK wrote:
 Ben Cadieux a écrit :
 Hi Everyone,

 It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
 changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?
   
 Don't know exactly what was changed.
 
 But I've tested the previous versions 4.3  4.2 and they always freeze
 after a short period of use. This time I've flashed it on my GTA02, and
 it seems to works well. A little too speed with the finger scrolling.
 
 The dialer and the suspend/resume with a call seems good.
 
 Except a keyboard disapearance sometimes, in the terminal keyboard,
 cannot use the arrow, a Lan config who lost the config, cannot apply a
 static configuration, come back every time at DHCP.
 
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Re: FR magifying glass (for tangoGPS, but not only)

2008-10-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
  Why not?  What the difference between place the magnifying glass on the
  device and enable the zoom function (or switch resolution)?
 having the whole screen magnified or just a section.
 Ofc the whole screen :-)

Unless the magnifying glass is larger than the screen, it can't magnify
the whole screen, unless it's using some *really* clever technology that
can send photons through the air on a non-straightline course.


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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 31 October 2008 17:55:36 Pander wrote:


 Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?


I had not problem, at least for booting it and trying to make a couple calls 
and suspend/resume cycles.

But, I have flashed the kernel included in .tgz:

testing-om-gta02-20081029.uImage.bin

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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Tobias Kündig
Bluetooth doesn't work for me. In the Bluetooth menu I only get a «Bluetooth
not available.» message...

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 17:55, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just tried 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel and it gets losts in an
 infinite pile of 'blah blah Magic bitmask blah blah' so going back to
 4.4.1.

 Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?

 Maelvon HAWK wrote:
  Ben Cadieux a écrit :
  Hi Everyone,
 
  It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
  changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?
 
  Don't know exactly what was changed.
 
  But I've tested the previous versions 4.3  4.2 and they always freeze
  after a short period of use. This time I've flashed it on my GTA02, and
  it seems to works well. A little too speed with the finger scrolling.
 
  The dialer and the suspend/resume with a call seems good.
 
  Except a keyboard disapearance sometimes, in the terminal keyboard,
  cannot use the arrow, a Lan config who lost the config, cannot apply a
  static configuration, come back every time at DHCP.
 
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Re: [2008.9] Forcing the charge rate on alternate chargers

2008-10-31 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cameron Frazier a écrit :
 Hello all,
 Is it possible to force the charging rate to a particular (500/1000 mA)?
[snip]
 Cameron

 You can install :
 http://hdr.meetr.de/neo/openmoko/battery/battery_0.20080721_armv4t.ipk
[snip]
 Xavier.

Perfect.  Thanks, it's exactly what I was looking for.

Cameron
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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
David Garabana Barro wrote:
 On Friday 31 October 2008 17:55:36 Pander wrote:
 
 Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?

 
 I had not problem, at least for booting it and trying to make a couple calls 
 and suspend/resume cycles.
 
 But, I have flashed the kernel included in .tgz:
 
 testing-om-gta02-20081029.uImage.bin

QtE 4.4.2 + daily testing OM kernel + daily testing OM U-boot = also
many many lines of:

jffs2_scan_eraseblok(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x:
0x instead

The . (dots) are characters I cannot read because of the scrolling.

 
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Re: Bugs from Openmoko Public Trac in Devel list?

2008-10-31 Thread Joel Newkirk


On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:39 +, Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:29:57 +0100
 Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Since a couple of days ago I started receiving a lot of bug reports
 from Openmoko Public Trac into Devel list.
 Why is it so?
 Personally I don't like it - if I want to see what tickets are
 available I go to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/report where I can
 sort them and view in defferent ways.
 Now It's just a spam in my mailbox and it's hard to find meaningful
 mails from actual people into all these bug reports.
 Can someone explainto me whay is it happening?
 
 I agree it's a little messy, but it's just John Lee clearing up a huge
 backlog of old bug reports.  What we're seeing is updates as bugs are
 marked as closed.  I don't think it's going to be like this for too
 long...
 
 Tom

http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1580

Apparently the default email address for new tickets for status updates is
set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread KaZeR
Ben Cadieux a écrit :
 Hi Everyone,

 It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
 changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?

 Best Regards,
 Ben Cadieux

   

http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/release-4-4-2.html might be what 
you're looking for.



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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Lorn Potter
On Sat November 1 2008 2:55:36 am Pander wrote:
 I've just tried 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel and it gets losts in an
 infinite pile of 'blah blah Magic bitmask blah blah' so going back to
 4.4.1.

 Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?

I forgot to add mwesters file system changes to this image.


 Maelvon HAWK wrote:
  Ben Cadieux a écrit :
  Hi Everyone,
 
  It seems 4.4.2 was released today; as usual, there is no summary of
  changes below the download link.  Does anyone know what was changed?
 
  Don't know exactly what was changed.
 
  But I've tested the previous versions 4.3  4.2 and they always freeze
  after a short period of use. This time I've flashed it on my GTA02, and
  it seems to works well. A little too speed with the finger scrolling.
 
  The dialer and the suspend/resume with a call seems good.
 
  Except a keyboard disapearance sometimes, in the terminal keyboard,
  cannot use the arrow, a Lan config who lost the config, cannot apply a
  static configuration, come back every time at DHCP.
 
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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread clare johnstone
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat November 1 2008 2:55:36 am Pander wrote:
 I've just tried 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel and it gets losts in an
 infinite pile of 'blah blah Magic bitmask blah blah' so going back to
 4.4.1.

 Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems?

 I forgot to add mwesters file system changes to this image.


Hi Lorn,
Thanks very much for that note. Please will you be remaking it soon?
When you do  please advise  which kernel should be used with it.

If possible please add a link to say which toolchain and which source
we can use to get in sync with the current images.

thank you very much,
regards,
clare

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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 31 October 2008 18:13:06 Tobias Kündig wrote:
 Bluetooth doesn't work for me. In the Bluetooth menu I only get a
 «Bluetooth not available.» message...

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[Fwd: [Bug 288747] Re: [needs-packaging] neotool]

2008-10-31 Thread Pander
NeoTool package for Ubuntu
---BeginMessage---
I made a package for Debian and uploaded it to mentors.debian.net, see
http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-
pkglist?action=details;package=neotool

Debian bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-
bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=504131

** Changed in: ubuntu
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Heikki Mäntysaari (heikki-mantysaari)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Also affects: debian via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=504131
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288747
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Re: no icons in 2008.testing

2008-10-31 Thread John Lee
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:51:01PM +0100, Benedikt Schindler wrote:
 hi,
 
 this ticket (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2082) said that the 
 no icons bug is fixed since 4 days.
 But there isn't an update in the unstable or testing tree.  (they are 
 still svnr36882. )

the way to fix this bug is not updating to another svn rev which might
introduce other unexpected behaviors due to the massive changes in EFL
recently.  instead we stick to this 36882 and fix problems there.

I don't think we will upgrade efl rev before we have another efl
snapshot/release.  following some random rev in svn trunk tree is
proved to be a very very bad idea.

the current stuffs in testing repo works for me and our testing team
and also for other engineers.  so I bet there's something wrong in the
upgrade path or your theme/config combination.

the only supported combination is

illume-theme-asu + illume

if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove
them.  illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files.  it
does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config.

I have also seen the illume default combination works:

illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume

notice that config and theme comes in different packages here.  it
DOES include qwerty and wrench.

the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set
it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile .  this is ugly and
will/should be solved in upstream soon.

after you make sure your efl related stuff and illume related packages
are correct (check with opkg list_installed | grep illume), stop x
server, rm -rf ~/.e, start x server.

since the next stable release will be the first one that comes
directly from a branch of om.dev, the upgrade path from stable
(i.e. om2008.9) will need a lot of testing.  our beloved testing team
will help.


FYI:

at the moment the 'settings' app in testing repo still got error (not
scrolling), this is a known issue.  however one can still set the
suspend time.


- John

 
 How long does it need to get into unstable / testing ?
 Because the updates in the kernel-git (stable) showing up in the 
 unstable-feeds 1 day after the patch is send to the git.
 
 So should i say something if these changes are not showing up after 4 
 days in the unstbale tree or is normal and should i be quiet and wait 
 for it ? :)
 
 cu
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Status update from optimization team

2008-10-31 Thread John Lee
Dear community,

On the organization chart we were called 'optimization' team so I put
this in the subject, even though my ideal name would be something like
'Keroro' [1].

Olv and Erin provided an experimental fastboot images for the
interested to try:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002950.html

Jeremy reported his status:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002882.html

Julian is still struggling with oprofile, python, etc. etc. along with
distro tasks.  With nobody offically assigned to distro team this
seems never end.

Check out tick's work to the touch screen:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002822.html
It's commited as abe8f448547d1bd69ac2963e07e2657f27b79691
and should be available in testing repo after next autobuild.

The illume issue (#2082) is partially solved now.  It requires quite
some black magic in the theme and config files to make the icons show
up again.  Thanks for raster's help on this.  read more about this in:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/034881.html

After seeing these cute icons, we found out only qtopia and sudoku
work as usual.  Other applications such as installer, locations are
fully dead (#2098, #2099), while settings is half dead (#2097).
Tick fixed 2098 and 2099 in openmoko.git commit
6725b90d5c9d844da196485beca7d9e82f8ce68c

This efl update from oe.dev upstream really scared us, so the current
plan is to stop following efl svn until another efl snapshot/release.

The alsa state file is a real trouble.  Since the audio quality
actually differs on different versions of FR, it's hard to create one
state file that suits all.  We will keep working on it.


Regards,
John

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Frog

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Re: [Fwd: [Bug 288747] Re: [needs-packaging] neotool]

2008-10-31 Thread Dale Maggee
Wow, cool! Does this mean that there's now a debian package?

I just saw your other message about this, does this mean that the issues 
you were having are solved?

Great stuff.

It would be great if you could update the NeoTool wiki page with 
instructions on installing on debian / ubuntu. I don't run debian or 
ubuntu, so don't know much about their packaging systems...

Regards,
-Dale


Pander wrote:
 NeoTool package for Ubuntu
   

 

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 I made a package for Debian and uploaded it to mentors.debian.net, see
 http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-
 pkglist?action=details;package=neotool

 Debian bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-
 bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=504131

 ** Changed in: ubuntu
  Assignee: (unassigned) = Heikki Mäntysaari (heikki-mantysaari)
Status: New = In Progress

 ** Also affects: debian via
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=504131
Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown

   
 

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Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Leonti Bielski
I just had the same problem:
jffs2_scan_eraseblok(): Magic bitmask
But it was due to my own mistake - I extracted jiffs image to the same
directory as tarball.
And than flashed it with qtextended* , so instead of actual image I
flashed an archive to my phone :D
Leonti

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New home for the New FDOM

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Schultz
 hexdump /dev/input/event2

produces no output.

 If you're using FDOM try replacing neod with a different copy to see if that
 solves it.

there was previously no file called /usr/bin/neod

 cd /tmp
 wget http://westhoffswelt.de/data/blog/moko_eightball/neod
 cp neod /usr/bin/neod
 chmod u+x /usr/bin/neod

I did this and rebooted.  No change.

Should there be an executing process running neod?  There isn't in any 
case.  I tried running it from a terminal session and got:

 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: opened 3 input nodes.
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: added fd 4 to list of watchers
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: added fd 5 to list of watchers
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: added fd 6 to list of watchers
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: mainmenu powersave reset
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: setting debug output to false
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: mainmenu powersave reset
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: requested to set display brightness 100
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: backlight_node_dir = pcf50633-bl
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: detected backlight in sysfs as 
 '/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness'
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: scanned maximum brightness for 
 '/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness' = '63'
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: writing '63' to 
 '/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness'
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: panel mainmenu sound init
 W: client-conf.c: Failed to open configuration file '/etc/pulse/client.conf': 
 No such file or directory
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: mainmenu sound state callback. state = 1
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: sound init ok. threaded mainloop started
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: mainmenu sound state callback. state = 5
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: neod_buttonactions_initial_update
 ** (neod:1544): DEBUG: charger already inserted

Any other suggestions?

Thanks, Jonathan

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