WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question
Hi, I am one of those who are affected by the WSOD issue. Until about 2 months ago, I was never affected by it, but now if my display is blanked for over 15 minutes I get the WSOD. After looking over the comments in the WSOD ticket and considering my own experience, I am wondering is this not a damage issue. You see, around 2 months ago my phone was knocked from my hand onto the pavement. At the time I considered myself lucky that the screen did not crack, and noticed no issues. But two comments in the ticket history got my wondering: The first is a comment by leachim that the problem went away after the physical display screen was replaced; and the second was a comment by jurg saying that he stopped seeing the WSOD if he kept the phone warm. My phone does not exhibit the WSOD problem if it is warm. I did this test by leaving the phone on top of a cheap DVD player which has a warm patch, suspending the phone for an hour, resuming, suspending for 3 hours, resuming, removing the phone from the heat source, suspending for 1 hour and resuming. The WSOD problem only manifested only the final resume. Without heat, the WSOD issue always mainfiests after 15 minutes or more of screen blanking. I used suspend to make sure that the screen is blanked, but I don't believe suspend/resume is the cause - I think it is related to blanking. I previously have found and fixed mechanical faults with electrical systems that present or disappear with heat as components come into or out of contact due to heating, so I am wondering if there is a possible damage issue here. My question is: For those of you who experience the WSOD issue: Have you ever dropped your phone? If you would be so kind as to reply off-list, I'll post the results in a week. Regards, Greg. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question
Hi Greg, I have a brand new device (2 weeks old!) and sinve I installed 2008.9 i do face WSOD. Never dropped the device! This issue is a show stopper as it prevents to use it as a phone. to the developers: PLEASE give the highest priority to that. Thanks Tony On 11/9/08, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am one of those who are affected by the WSOD issue. Until about 2 months ago, I was never affected by it, but now if my display is blanked for over 15 minutes I get the WSOD. After looking over the comments in the WSOD ticket and considering my own experience, I am wondering is this not a damage issue. You see, around 2 months ago my phone was knocked from my hand onto the pavement. At the time I considered myself lucky that the screen did not crack, and noticed no issues. But two comments in the ticket history got my wondering: The first is a comment by leachim that the problem went away after the physical display screen was replaced; and the second was a comment by jurg saying that he stopped seeing the WSOD if he kept the phone warm. My phone does not exhibit the WSOD problem if it is warm. I did this test by leaving the phone on top of a cheap DVD player which has a warm patch, suspending the phone for an hour, resuming, suspending for 3 hours, resuming, removing the phone from the heat source, suspending for 1 hour and resuming. The WSOD problem only manifested only the final resume. Without heat, the WSOD issue always mainfiests after 15 minutes or more of screen blanking. I used suspend to make sure that the screen is blanked, but I don't believe suspend/resume is the cause - I think it is related to blanking. I previously have found and fixed mechanical faults with electrical systems that present or disappear with heat as components come into or out of contact due to heating, so I am wondering if there is a possible damage issue here. My question is: For those of you who experience the WSOD issue: Have you ever dropped your phone? If you would be so kind as to reply off-list, I'll post the results in a week. Regards, Greg. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.11.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 10:15 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: BTW, I also noticed that the USB icon (and corresponding control panel) disappeared here. Is that intentional? The usb icon vanished because we don't get it working as indented. You still can't switch the usb modes... but sudo should be a good solution the deal with the permission problems. may be next version... What exactly is the problem with switching usb mode? I can switch between device and host mode in the console without problems. Only the gadget things doesn't work right at the moment. Isn't it possible to just implement the switch between usb device and host mode with altering the corresponsing sysfs files like done manual in the console? when i included usb icon in the older version it was just to show what i had in mind but it never had any functionallity. we currently are unable to 'rmmod g_file_storage' which i wanted to use .. :/ if you want i for sure could give you the usb-icon with a switch to change between device and host mode ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJFtuzr81gVylJyzERAk2VAJwKnpxG1T7S2/B9ESQbF0t7hObBiQCeJh5X r+8ZodJRFbgAhk9gEo51cPw= =QT5J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
selling my Freerunner
Hi, as I hardly ever found enough time to play around with my FR I now decided to sell it. Its the original GTA02 (bought August 2008) and comes with the default goodies: headset (unused), laser stylus, phone pouch, 512MB microSD Card, adapter, USB connectivity cable, etc. If interested, please send me an email. I would preferably sell it to somebody in Germany due to lower shipping costs. cheers, Katrin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Christian Adams wrote: Am 08.11.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 10:15 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: BTW, I also noticed that the USB icon (and corresponding control panel) disappeared here. Is that intentional? The usb icon vanished because we don't get it working as indented. You still can't switch the usb modes... but sudo should be a good solution the deal with the permission problems. may be next version... What exactly is the problem with switching usb mode? I can switch between device and host mode in the console without problems. Only the gadget things doesn't work right at the moment. Isn't it possible to just implement the switch between usb device and host mode with altering the corresponsing sysfs files like done manual in the console? when i included usb icon in the older version it was just to show what i had in mind but it never had any functionallity. we currently are unable to 'rmmod g_file_storage' which i wanted to use .. :/ if you want i for sure could give you the usb-icon with a switch to change between device and host mode I think this would be a nice feature. At the moment i made two shell scripts to do this, but it would be easier to do this with your panel plugin. And when the g_file_storage module removal works it could just be added to the usb icon. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb arne anka: i also would like to be able to un-/lock screen with power-button .. but actually i don't know how to disable touch so it doesn't emmit events .. anyone some ideas ? I don't know if/how you can do that. But you can place a window at the very forefront that hides everything else and grabs all events. after all, it's an X/kernel issue -- so, probably below /sys there's an interface. but shouldn't frameworkd handle that kind of things? afaik it's a krnl-issue and some time ago i read someting about an interface in /sys which was disabled for some reason i currently can't remember. xlock etc are unable to give me what i want: a running FR in my pocket with totally disabled touch not wasting energy on display and backlight about framworkd: i will wait what new features are included in ms4 ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJFtY7r81gVylJyzERAhV2AKCrqPBGxyIWo9+R+vvchI968geMFwCfVDnn Imd7AjcDvcVCH27DvAGELlg= =DB+l -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Weird death on connecting USB
I have that same behaviour when connecting my freerunner to a zingg hub dynamo charger. mvg, depeje Op Sunday 19 October 2008 19:14:34 schreef Paul: Hi all, Been running OM2008.9 for a while (from uSD) and that's pretty okay. Just now however I noticed: After having the FR on for about a day, I connected the USB cable to the PC. The FR screen showed for a moment, went black and remained that way. I had to pull the battery to force a reboot. Is this known behaviour? Will that not happen when I flash the FR with this? Paul signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
new to openmoko
Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 07:42:57PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help. Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
minimo segfaults when surfing to ssl sites with non-standard ports
To be able to use the wireless lan in my college I have to authenticate myself thrue an ssl encrypted site. When I use minimo for that (the only browser that knows something about ssl on the freerunner) it segfaults. Attached to this mail is the output file of #wget http://www.google.be . You can see the browser will be redirected to an ssl-encrypted site on port 8081, at which point minimo segfaults. I don't get the chance to see the authentication form. When I am completely connected to the internet and i surf to a self hosted ssl-site on port 44344 it also segfaults. This is particularly nasty because now I can't use the internet at all in my college. Does anybody know where I should start looking for a solution, or anybody who knows a workaround to get authenticated? sincerly yours, depeje text/html; charset="iso 8859-15"; name="index.html": Unrecognized signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. HIHmatthias Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g 82041 Oberhaching Germany t +498961308 351 f +498961308 399 m +491704527211 e w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: selling my Freerunner
Hello, i'm very interessted. I'm from switzerland (also could speak german ;) ), but the porto could be payed by myself.. how much do you want for it? my brother is searching a device, so i think, he's really, really thankfull for a possibility of experiments. :) greets Hi, as I hardly ever found enough time to play around with my FR I now decided to sell it. Its the original GTA02 (bought August 2008) and comes with the default goodies: headset (unused), laser stylus, phone pouch, 512MB microSD Card, adapter, USB connectivity cable, etc. If interested, please send me an email. I would preferably sell it to somebody in Germany due to lower shipping costs. cheers, Katrin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Mobile +41 77 447 73 74 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
How does this setup work with suspend ? Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call and so on ? Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Base image from 9/11 broken?
hello, i've got that without testing feed enabled: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/daily-Multiverse Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-all Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-armv4t Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-om-gta02 Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg install mplayer Installing mplayer (0.0+1.0rc2-r8.01) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r8.01_armv4t.opk Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for mplayer: * mplayer-common * libmp3lame0 (= 3.96.1) * libmad0 (= 0.15.1b) * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# ls Multiverse-feed.conf all-feed.conf arch.conf armv4t-feed.conf om-gta02-feed.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# and that with testing enabled: # opkg install mplayer Installing mplayer (0.0+1.0rc2-r8.01) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r8.01_armv4t.opk Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for mplayer: * mplayer-common * libmp3lame0 (= 3.96.1) * libmad0 (= 0.15.1b) * what could be the cause? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is FDOM unstable
Hi +1 FDOM is a good dmonstration of what can be done, but I encountered exactly the same instabilities/bugs/slow downs. This is why I keep Qtopia for now (waiting for a good GPS application..) 2008/11/9 Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
ok, thanks folks! jni it is then... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
is FDOM unstable
Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
distro woes
Hi, today I decided to give qtextended another go, but the wiki page mentions some things I couldn't figure out in the end: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner links to http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035245.html that says to use a certain remade qtextended rootfs with the latest mwester kernel. And I wonder which kernel that would be: the stable one mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels (from 3 Oct), or the stable one mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/download/ (from 4 Nov)? Also, could somebody tell me which kernel goes with the qtextended on fso rootfs mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels ? And what is the advantage for using this rootfs and kernel combo compared with the official qtextended one? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
whitespace going missing on wikipages
Dear community: Recently , while you edit wiki pages, the white space at the beginning or end will be going missing. Once broken it's hard to fix with adding whitespace again. So , while you want to use the whitespace to format your code/command , please use pre ... /pre sytax. I guess this problem was cause by TagCloud extension. I already ask our IT Guys work on this , before they find the solution, feel free to use pre. Sorry for the inconvenient. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
Matthias Apitz wrote: [...] Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias Check some Wiki pages, USB networking: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking When you can SSH to the FR, you can use 'opkg' to install a terminal application in the FR. Or, you can use 'Installer' UI application to install it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Installer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg Cheers, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro woes
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, today I decided to give qtextended another go, but the wiki page mentions some things I couldn't figure out in the end: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner links to http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035245.html that says to use a certain remade qtextended rootfs with the latest mwester kernel. And I wonder which kernel that would be: the stable one mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels (from 3 Oct), or the stable one mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/download/ (from 4 Nov)? I currently use the one from 3 Oct and it works fine. I wasn't aware of the new version until now but ill give it a try. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
Hi, I've packaged E for Debian. So far it works. Installation (clean Debian, from http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob;f=install.sh): wget https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb dpkg -i enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb mv /root/.xsession /root/.xsession.backup cat END /root/.xsession #!/bin/sh zhone enlightenment_start END echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/e/bin' /etc/profile echo 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/e/lib/pkgconfig' /etc/profile /etc/init.d/nodm restart It should be installed now in /opt/e. Alternative, you can use https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.tar.gz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 09:41:20PM +0100, Andreas Wallin escribió: How does this setup work with suspend ? I do not use suspend; Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call and so on ? It does work as my every day phone; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]
Thanks,
I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are
more users having success,
I will buy this card.
Especially when the eaten MBR problem was only once a problem. Was it ?
Thanks
Lothar
Am 08.11.2008 um 12:47 schrieb Marian Flor:
Hello list members,
here another FR success story: Booting and usage of a large 16GB SDHC
works!
My configuration and recipe:
- QtExtend on flash
- Debian on microSD (ext2+ext2) [1]
- u-boot daily (8 Nov 2008) from [2]
- Applied configure-uboot.sh from [3]
- Kernel for Debian from [4] (but the kernel should not matter)
- microSD card:
Vendor: SanDisk
Model: SDSDQ-016G-E11M
Size: 16GB
Speed: Class2
With this configuration I encountered first this error (output from
minicom, /dev/ttyACM0) when I tried to boot directly (i.e. just
pressed
power on the FR):
--- 8 --- snip ---
Card Type: SD 2.0 SDHC
Manufacturer: 0x03, OEM SD
Product name: SU16G, revision 8.0
Serial number: 2684394330
Manufacturing date: 8/2008
MMC/SD size:3MiB
cmd 0x10, arg 0x200 flags 0x15
Error after cmd: 0xfffc
cmd 0x11, arg 0x0 flags 0x235
Error after cmd: 0xfffc
bad MBR sector signature 0x
** Bad partition 1 **
Wrong Image Format for bootm command
ERROR: can't get kernel image!
--- 8 --- snap ---
Note that mmcinit reports a false size [5].
Booting manually from that point worked well:
--- 8 --- snip ---
GTA02v6 # boot
Card Type: SD 2.0 SDHC
Manufacturer: 0x03, OEM SD
Product name: SU16G, revision 8.0
Serial number: 2684394330
Manufacturing date: 8/2008
MMC/SD size:3MiB
1939024 bytes read
## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 3200 ...
Image Name: Openmoko Freerunner Kernel
Created: 2008-10-03 15:57:45 UTC
Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Data Size:1938960 Bytes = 1at MB
Load Address: 30008000
Entry Point: 30008000
Verifying Checksum ... OK
--- 8 --- snap ---
Then I modified the configure-uboot.sh, entered some idle time to let
the SDHC card settle after mmcinit and applied configure-uboot.sh
again
to the FR:
--- 8 --- snip ---
--- configure-uboot.sh 2008-08-15 16:01:06.0 +0200
+++ configure-uboot-delay.sh2008-11-08 11:36:20.0 +0100
@@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5;
mmcinit;
+ sleep 2;
ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name};
bootm 0x3200
--- 8 --- snap ---
Two seconds settle time is suitable for all boot situations (warm and
cold boot, powered by usb or on battery). Tested. Works. :-D
Note: There is still an issue with the suspend mode [6]. But my MBR
was
not eaten (until now ;-) ). I was able to fix a mangled filesystem on
the card with a fsck.ext2 -y /dev/mmcblk0p2 after booting the Linux
from
flash.
Enjoy!
Greetings from switzerland,
Marian
[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
[2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
[3] http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/configure-uboot.sh
[4] http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels
[5] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1815
[6]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Booting_from_SDHC_.2F_suspend_problems
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Re: GPG for SMS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rhn schrieb: Od: Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About calls - I remember I saw a documentary in which the calls interfered with TV sets, which allowed to hear the conversations. That would imply unencrypted. That sounds quite unlikely, even if you had configured your GSM to send the data without encryption how would your analog TV set decompress the digital (and compressed) audio stream? It might have been a hoax as well. If I remember it right, it was the operator's fault. From the video footage, only some words were understandable. On the other hand, I remember watching encoded audio + video from a locked channel with a satellite tuner. The quality is *very* poor, but it can be understood at times. I believe nowadays TV sets are sold with the circuitry to decode digital data (the switching to digital land infrastructure), but I don't remember if it was the case there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community it isn't just a operator-fault. http://wiki.thc.org/gsm#head-1d4386f26b54c1890bdb6b181b6293c3b9b5af62 i read a article about this group. they could crack gsm-connection's in 2 hours without some cleartext. another issue in my eyes is the possibility of the provider to listen all calls, read all sms. i think, it isn't so much work to make a symetric crypt-possibility for special peoble as example (person a say's person b the code directly, so both ore more invited peoble's know the key and could encode/decode the messenges).. in my eyes, security is very important, and privacy in the mobile-phone-world doesn't exist. if i had enough time and expirience, i would programm by myself, but until i had this, it's could been 1-3 years later. :/ - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJF2P4K9d7OHUJmA4RAuYLAKDhkPjGHxSE4R3eQHJNAVPxMr99DwCfdNPm XcBlrLgWWxRpz4+nQGk+QFM= =6tia -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: minimo segfaults when surfing to ssl sites with non-standard ports
Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that knows something about ssl on the freerunner) it segfaults. I use elinks and iceweasel on my freerunner, they both do ssl. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question
* Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081109 11:16]: Hi, I am one of those who are affected by the WSOD issue. Until about 2 months ago, I was never affected by it, but now if my display is blanked for over 15 minutes I get the WSOD. lucky you - I get WSoD when suspended/blanked for more than 1 minute ;) And this from the beginning when I got my freerunner in august. I immediately reflashed it, so I don't know, if the original 2007 stack would have shown the WSoD also... After looking over the comments in the WSOD ticket and considering my own experience, I am wondering is this not a damage issue. You see, around 2 months ago my phone was knocked from my hand onto the pavement. At the time I considered myself lucky that the screen did not crack, and noticed no issues. But two comments in the ticket history got my wondering: The first is a comment by leachim that the problem went away after the physical display screen was replaced; and the second was a comment by jurg saying that he stopped seeing the WSOD if he kept the phone warm. I just tried the warm theory and put my freerunner sleeping on a warm and cosy place - resumed after 5 minutes and got a nice WSoD. My phone does not exhibit the WSOD problem if it is warm. I did this test by leaving the phone on top of a cheap DVD player which has a warm patch, suspending the phone for an hour, resuming, suspending for 3 hours, resuming, removing the phone from the heat source, suspending for 1 hour and resuming. The WSOD problem only manifested only the final resume. Without heat, the WSOD issue always mainfiests after 15 minutes or more of screen blanking. I used suspend to make sure that the screen is blanked, but I don't believe suspend/resume is the cause - I think it is related to blanking. I previously have found and fixed mechanical faults with electrical systems that present or disappear with heat as components come into or out of contact due to heating, so I am wondering if there is a possible damage issue here. My question is: For those of you who experience the WSOD issue: Have you ever dropped your phone? Never dropped it. If you would be so kind as to reply off-list, I'll post the results in a week. Regards, Greg. Thank you for doing this Mok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko cronology
I want to do a presentation for next friday and one of the point I want to reflex is the quick evolution of the Openmoko project but I realize there is no place with a clear cronologie so I will try to post things I have found spreaded in wiki, press releases and over the web to try to have some kind of time line. ? 2006 Openmoko was anounced by his founder FIC Nov 2006 Openmoko annouce the Neo1973 Jul 2007 Neo1973 out to the real world Jan 2008 Openmoko announce the Neo FreeRunner Feb 2008 Last Neo1973 sold from Openmoko Jun 2008 Neo FreeRunner Hits the real world Jul 2008 FSO milestone 2 Aug 2008 OM2008.8, Debian on Freerunner, Qtopia 4.3.2, Schematics published Sep 2008 FSO milestone 3, FDOM, NeoTool, Gentoo, Gestures, Remoko,Numptyphisycs Oct 2008 Qt Extended 4.4.1, OM2008.9, http://opkg.org, more than 7 web browsers, rasteman illume images,QI,Duke3d, Pingus Nov 2008 Android beta image, FDOMizer, QT EXtended 4.4.2, Doom Help will be apreciated I want to matain it as simple as posible to presentetation but a more detailed on in the wiki will be awesome to have ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: minimo segfaults when surfing to ssl sites with non-standard ports
Peter Nijs wrote: To be able to use the wireless lan in my college I have to authenticate myself thrue an ssl encrypted site. When I use minimo for that (the only browser that knows something about ssl on the freerunner) it segfaults. Attached to this mail is the output file of #wget http://www.google.be . You can see the browser will be redirected to an ssl-encrypted site on port 8081, at which point minimo segfaults. I don't get the chance to see the authentication form. When I am completely connected to the internet and i surf to a self hosted ssl-site on port 44344 it also segfaults. This is particularly nasty because now I can't use the internet at all in my college. Does anybody know where I should start looking for a solution, or anybody who knows a workaround to get authenticated? I have this too. It seems an issue linked to the libcurl/libgnutls libraries in OpenEmbedded (or Openmoko). Give a look to this [1]. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Web-based-WIFI-authentication-tp1383309p1450113.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
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I guess that this is the way when using jni.
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java?
You open the file[1] and read data[2].
[1] /dev/input/event{2,3}
[2] data is a steady flow of
struct input_event {
struct timeval time;
__u16 type;
__u16 code;
__s32 value;
};
See linux-2.6.26/Documentation/input/input.txt for more info.
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