Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks

2009-01-22 Thread Andreas Willich
As far as I know Funambol wanted to develop an Client for their service for the 
Neo. Except the press release I did not read anything about it.

But Funambol uses SyncML and that is on my task list. Aside from the addin 
interface for different PIMs my SyncClient has also an addin interface for 
communication with different servers like SyncML servers. 

After the release I want to make a poll, which PIM or Sync Protocoll I should 
implement next.


Regards
Andreas


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 Datum: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:01 +0100
 Von: Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl
 An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
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 All, Andreas,
 
 Do you know about Funambol (www.forge.funambol.org)?
 Can they be of help?
 
 Greetings,
 
 Jos vd Snepscheut
 
 Andreas Willich wrote:
  Hi
 
 
  I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only
  supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took
  the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. 
 
  But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it
  should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way
  I have get the data out of it.
 
  I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks.
 
 
  Regards
  Andreas
 
  On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote:

  Xavier Bestel wrote:
  
  On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote:

  Pander a écrit :
  
  Hi all,
 
  Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and
  exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from
 Sunbird/Lightning?
 
  Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/

  Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet.
 
  http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html
  
  And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ...

  Here is more:
http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/
 
  Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for
  address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the
  already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap?
 
  The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should
  get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this.
 
  Anyone?
 
  Pander
 
  
Xav
 
 
 
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IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi All,

I use IPV6 and minimo doesn't seem to support it.
Is there a way to get ipv6 working with it?

Kind regards,
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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Installing  debian would be one. I use Debian with v6 regularly.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
 Hi All,

 I use IPV6 and minimo doesn't seem to support it.
 Is there a way to get ipv6 working with it?

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Sargun,

IPv6 is not the problem, om2008.12 supports it. it is minimo that
refuses to show ipv6 only sites.

Kind regards,
Ed

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 00:49 -0800, Sargun Dhillon wrote:
 Installing  debian would be one. I use Debian with v6 regularly.
 
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I use IPV6 and minimo doesn't seem to support it.
  Is there a way to get ipv6 working with it?
 
  Kind regards,
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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 IPv6 is not the problem, om2008.12 supports it. it is minimo that
 refuses to show ipv6 only sites.

where did you get it from? maybe it was built w/o ip6 support?

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Re: Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now

2009-01-22 Thread Helge Hafting
Carlo Minucci wrote:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh%21
 
 i have fix some bug:
 * no output of curl and wget (no more x.log big)
 * fix break into while
 
 check and tell me other problem :)

I let it run overnight, to deal with 5 tiles.
It still segfaults sometime during the night.
There are no full filesystems this time though.

Helge Hafting

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svgalib

2009-01-22 Thread Mickael Labrousse
Hi,

Is there a package of svgalib available for the freerunner ?

Thanks,
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Re: [FSO] issues using fso images / no wireless

2009-01-22 Thread qhaz



Daniel Spies wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 
 as I still cannot compile FSO on my machines I tried to use the already
 build images provided by [1]. After flashing the kernel and rootfs I could
 easily boot und setup my FR. Now it seems there is no Dialer and/or
 Contact
 application preinstalled. I wanted to install them from the repos, but
 after establishing a connection to a wireless network it turned out that
 doesn't work at all. I got my IP address and 'route' tells me the default
 gateway is set properly. But no packet seems to go out... So, anyone know
 if there is a known issue with wireless on the current FSO builds? I'm
 ready to flash again if I did something wrong, if you help me. I didn't
 use
 the
 modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.tgz
 file, I simply don't know what to do with it. May this be a problem?
 
 Used files for flashing are:
 openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090118-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin
 
 [1] http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/
 
 Thanks,
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Latest update from fso unstable enables wifi.  Mine is working fine.  Let me
know if I can help with setup.

cheers

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Re: [debian ] Bluetooth

2009-01-22 Thread NANoo
Am Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:28:42 +0100
schrieb Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com:

 is there someone with a working bluetooth!??


yes, i only had to enable bluetooth in the settings-menu and run
manually hcid. then i was able to connect via remoko...

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How to view Qtopia .pic files

2009-01-22 Thread Pander
Hi all,

How can I view Qtopia .pic files on my Ubuntu machine and possibly
convert them to PNG/SVG?

Thanks,

Pander

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Re: Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks

2009-01-22 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Tanks for your reaktion and for your work.

Jos.
Andreas Willich wrote:
 As far as I know Funambol wanted to develop an Client for their service for 
 the Neo. Except the press release I did not read anything about it.
 
 But Funambol uses SyncML and that is on my task list. Aside from the addin 
 interface for different PIMs my SyncClient has also an addin interface for 
 communication with different servers like SyncML servers. 
 
 After the release I want to make a poll, which PIM or Sync Protocoll I should 
 implement next.
 
 
 Regards
 Andreas
 
 
  Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:01 +0100
 Von: Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl
 An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Betreff: Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
 
 All, Andreas,

 Do you know about Funambol (www.forge.funambol.org)?
 Can they be of help?

 Greetings,

 Jos vd Snepscheut

 Andreas Willich wrote:
 Hi


 I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only
 supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took
 the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. 

 But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it
 should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way
 I have get the data out of it.

 I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks.


 Regards
 Andreas

 On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote:
   
 Xavier Bestel wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote:
   
 Pander a écrit :
 
 Hi all,

 Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and
 exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from
 Sunbird/Lightning?
 Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/
   
 Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet.

 http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html
 
 And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ...
   
 Here is more:
   http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/

 Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for
 address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the
 already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap?

 The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should
 get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this.

 Anyone?

 Pander

 
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Re: svgalib

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 Is there a package of svgalib available for the freerunner ?

well, debian only offers svgalib for i386 and amd64.
so, it is probaly limited to x86 arch.

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Well i got it from:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo#Installing_Minimo_web_browser -
wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2

So i guess it is build w/o ipv6 support.
I checked today and the version is still the same one i have already.

Kind regards,
Ed

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 10:32 +0100, arne anka wrote:
  IPv6 is not the problem, om2008.12 supports it. it is minimo that
  refuses to show ipv6 only sites.
 
 where did you get it from? maybe it was built w/o ip6 support?
 
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Re: [fso] sending pin failed

2009-01-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 08:33:47AM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 Try 2008.12 - I find that FSO and SHR which use the gsm0710muxd just
 lock up the gsm chipset and dont work - ever :(

   There are still bugs being fixed in gsm0710muxd, e.g. this one:
https://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2009-January/000874.html
I.e. make sure you have at least version 0.9.2.2.

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2

that would be mine :-)
it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever  
be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian  
packages or build my own.

you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any  
development still going on with minimo.

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-22 Thread Tobias Kündig
Just uploaded the ipk file Rafael sent me:
http://www.opkg.org/package_107.html

Regards,
Tobias

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 04:36, Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello Marco,

 --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote:
   The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest
  and now
   we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
  Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate
  the dual-touch
  (and so to use both the right and the left flippers
  together):
 
  Simply, while playing, move away the play
  option and then place
  between the left flipper and the right
  flipper buttons a listener
  for the mouse pointer (something like an event box).
  So, if the pointer is between the right and the left
  flipper (i.e. if
  the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make
  both the
  flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should
  move before
  than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on
  the right or
  on the left).

 Good idea :) I was thinking about dual-touch but I didn't like
 my ideas, so I am going to develop your idea if there is not
 another bettter ;-)


  PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :)

 Yeah, we would like more size eh? :) But when I work with scroll
 and bigger sizes the game is not fluent :(
 I started with a smaller size and I after some improvements in the
 code I got the current size.. I am not sure if I will be able
 to have nice scroll with bigger sizes, but I will my best ;-)
 (we already know the problems with graphics there).

 Moreover I could avoid the scroll using the whole screen but
 I like the scroll because the game loses action if the table
 is fixed and only the ball is moving.

 Thanks for your feedback,

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-22 Thread kimaidou
Thanks very much to both of you

2009/1/22 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com

 Just uploaded the ipk file Rafael sent me:
 http://www.opkg.org/package_107.html

 Regards,
 Tobias

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 04:36, Rafael Ignacio Zurita 
 rizur...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello Marco,

 --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote:
   The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest
  and now
   we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
  Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate
  the dual-touch
  (and so to use both the right and the left flippers
  together):
 
  Simply, while playing, move away the play
  option and then place
  between the left flipper and the right
  flipper buttons a listener
  for the mouse pointer (something like an event box).
  So, if the pointer is between the right and the left
  flipper (i.e. if
  the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make
  both the
  flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should
  move before
  than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on
  the right or
  on the left).

 Good idea :) I was thinking about dual-touch but I didn't like
 my ideas, so I am going to develop your idea if there is not
 another bettter ;-)


  PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :)

 Yeah, we would like more size eh? :) But when I work with scroll
 and bigger sizes the game is not fluent :(
 I started with a smaller size and I after some improvements in the
 code I got the current size.. I am not sure if I will be able
 to have nice scroll with bigger sizes, but I will my best ;-)
 (we already know the problems with graphics there).

 Moreover I could avoid the scroll using the whole screen but
 I like the scroll because the game loses action if the table
 is fixed and only the ball is moving.

 Thanks for your feedback,

 Rafa

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Re: Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now

2009-01-22 Thread Carlo Minucci
Helge Hafting ha scritto:

 
 I let it run overnight, to deal with 5 tiles.
 It still segfaults sometime during the night.
 There are no full filesystems this time though.

yesterday yaouh have crash with 2 tiles...

...mumble mumble...


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[android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice,
responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr
play are;

- very low call volume, despite setting it to full
- to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon

Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

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Re: Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now

2009-01-22 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi..

Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Helge Hafting ha scritto:
 I let it run overnight, to deal with 5 tiles.
 It still segfaults sometime during the night.
 There are no full filesystems this time though.
 
 yesterday yaouh have crash with 2 tiles...

I had mine run with 68K tiles.. and I didn't experience any crashes..

the only problems I had were:
a) Version 0.2.0 (and expect 0.2.1, too) doesn't seem to care about the
TangoGPS config file anymore, so I had to symlink the SD card folder..
b) Concerning the SD card. Not sure why, but it was FAT formatted and
after a few tiles I could see the wget complain about a read-only
filesystem.. once I re-formatted with ext3, that was history and the
whole lot of tiles could be updated..

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
 button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon

 Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
 workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

what's the aux button used for?
since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible  
to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
browsing the menus.

As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  - it's
still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 - dillo does not support http (so no gmail)

huh?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Davide Scaini
just few question:
which image?
which kernel?
which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
of more than 1.8mb?)
flash or sd?

thanks!
[i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
d

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-)

I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files


- that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel
image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather
than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to
try one at a time and reflash.



2009/1/22 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com

 just few question:
 which image?
 which kernel?
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)
 flash or sd?

 thanks!
 [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
 uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
 d


 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
 power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Davide Scaini
...but:
- dillo does not support http (so no gmail)
- midori seems to crash very often (at least to me on my debian)
when i used minimo on 2008.8 it seemed very stable... (long time ago...)
d

(my2cents)

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2

 that would be mine :-)
 it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
 since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever
 be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian
 packages or build my own.

 you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any
 development still going on with minimo.

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread dscaini
nice!
thank you very much i'll give a try immediately!
d


On 1/22/09, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:
 Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-)

 I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files


 - that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel
 image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather
 than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to
 try one at a time and reflash.



 2009/1/22 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com

 just few question:
 which image?
 which kernel?
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for
 kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)
 flash or sd?

 thanks!
 [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
 uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
 d


 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
 power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Sander van Grieken
 wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2

 that would be mine :-)
 it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
 since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever
 be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian
 packages or build my own.

 you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any
 development still going on with minimo.

Hi,

A week or so back I built a Minimo package for FSO and submitted it to 
opkg.org. I don't
know if it has IPv6 support and it'll probably complain about dependency 
version numbers
if you're on OM2008.x, but you could try to install it with -force-depends and 
see if it
works.

If it has no IPv6 support then let me know and I'll have a look at building a 
new package.

Also be aware that Minimo has no bookmark management, which kinda sucks

grtz,
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Re: can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it

2009-01-22 Thread James Richardson
You will need to run it from a Linux computer with your Freerunner attached
and booted into one of the OM distros. You have to right-click the link to
the installer.sh file and save it to your Linux PC. Then make it executable
with the command chmod +x installer.sh. Then just run it in a terminal. It
will go through several stages to partition and format your SD Card and
then download and unpack the Debian distro onto it over the USB connection.
James

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 it appears to be an xml file to me.

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Re: can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it

2009-01-22 Thread James Richardson
Make that chmod +x install.sh
:-)

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM, James Richardson 
freerunner.gt...@gmail.com wrote:

 You will need to run it from a Linux computer with your Freerunner attached
 and booted into one of the OM distros. You have to right-click the link to
 the installer.sh file and save it to your Linux PC. Then make it executable
 with the command chmod +x installer.sh. Then just run it in a terminal. It
 will go through several stages to partition and format your SD Card and
 then download and unpack the Debian distro onto it over the USB connection.
 James

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com wrote:

 it appears to be an xml file to me.

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Re: Dead FR: does not boot IT NOW DOES

2009-01-22 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Just to update all of you: meanwhile the FR is alive again. None of tricks 
mentioned here cut, except replacing the apparently totally drained battery
with that from a compatible Nokia phone. After booting I connected my FR to 
power and exchanged the batteries agaian and charging went ahead as one would 
expect.

So we do not really ever have a problem with our nice FR as long as there are 
friends around who are willing to lend a battery.

greetings

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)

U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time
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Re: can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it

2009-01-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 22.01.2009, 10:19 -0500 schrieb James Richardson:
 You will need to run it from a Linux computer with your Freerunner
 attached and booted into one of the OM distros. You have to
 right-click the link to the installer.sh file and save it to your
 Linux PC. Then make it executable with the command chmod +x
 installer.sh. Then just run it in a terminal. It will go through
 several stages to partition and format your SD Card and then
 download and unpack the Debian distro onto it over the USB connection.

eh, this sounds dangerous. Please, run the install.sh script on your
FreeRunner, not on your PC.

This should do quite nicely, when run _on the FreeRunner_
$ wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
$ chmod +x install.sh
$ ./install.sh
# Read and understand
$ ./install.sh

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread dscaini
...
...i forgot an 's'...
dillo does not support [natively] https. sorry for the typo
d


On 1/22/09, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
 - dillo does not support http (so no gmail)

 huh?

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-22 Thread Giovanni
I installed it from opkg.org on my Om2008.12, but when I click on the
Linball icon, I get a Application run error and nothing happens.

What can I do?



On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks very much to both of you

 2009/1/22 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com

 Just uploaded the ipk file Rafael sent me:
 http://www.opkg.org/package_107.html

 Regards,
 Tobias

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 04:36, Rafael Ignacio Zurita 
 rizur...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello Marco,

 --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote:
   The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest
  and now
   we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
  Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate
  the dual-touch
  (and so to use both the right and the left flippers
  together):
 
  Simply, while playing, move away the play
  option and then place
  between the left flipper and the right
  flipper buttons a listener
  for the mouse pointer (something like an event box).
  So, if the pointer is between the right and the left
  flipper (i.e. if
  the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make
  both the
  flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should
  move before
  than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on
  the right or
  on the left).

 Good idea :) I was thinking about dual-touch but I didn't like
 my ideas, so I am going to develop your idea if there is not
 another bettter ;-)


  PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :)

 Yeah, we would like more size eh? :) But when I work with scroll
 and bigger sizes the game is not fluent :(
 I started with a smaller size and I after some improvements in the
 code I got the current size.. I am not sure if I will be able
 to have nice scroll with bigger sizes, but I will my best ;-)
 (we already know the problems with graphics there).

 Moreover I could avoid the scroll using the whole screen but
 I like the scroll because the game loses action if the table
 is fixed and only the ball is moving.

 Thanks for your feedback,

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Re: [debian ] Bluetooth

2009-01-22 Thread dscaini
OK, thanks for your tips i'll give a try and then feedback.
the wiki is lacky...
d


On 1/21/09, Niel Drummond niel.drumm...@grumpytoad.org wrote:
 dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
 i followed the wiki but with no result... do you have any tip or
 favourite application to let it work?


 I think I picked the pieces together from various google searches - you
 probably need to install bluez and family of programs: apt-cache search
 bluez

 I then used 'hcitool' to connect. I found this in my rc.local, so I
 guess it was also necessary:

 echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on

 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
 hidd --search

 there is probably a lot more I could do to make it secure...  you will
 probably also want to look into a custom keymap - 'loadkeys', 'showkey',
 'xev' and 'xmodmap' helped there. my only niggle at the moment is the X
 mappings seem a little jittery, not sure if that comes from updates or
 just me tweaking the wrong switch :-|

 - Niel
 thanks
 d


 On 1/21/09, Niel Drummond niel.drumm...@grumpytoad.org wrote:

 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:


 is there someone with a working bluetooth!??


 Yes, worked for me with the packaged kernel.


 yes, I am running debian with the dinovo mini logitech keyboard. it
 works flawlessly, thinking about strapping the phone to the back cover
 of the keyboard.

 - Niel

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/15 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com:
 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr:
 Hackable1 is echo free no ?

 (personnaly i have no echo)

 I also have no echo with H1.

Correction: apparently I do still have a bad echo.  No one had
mentioned it for a while, so I thought it was fixed...

   Neil

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Re: Alternative numeric keyboard

2009-01-22 Thread
Pander schrieb:
 Hi all,

 Have a look here for an alternative numeric keyboard:
   http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html
 It is called illume-keyboards-numbers-alt

 And have a look here:
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards
 Perhaps someone can improve the procedure for creating keyboard icons.
   
here is a video tut DIY illume kbd icon (read description, it is not 
perfect ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QNL1mvXdI
i dont know why, but there is no option to watch it in high quality, but 
anyone who used inkscape for only 5 minutes should get it.
 Regards,

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Re: QWO tentative package for Debian is out

2009-01-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
stop -- do you mean with illume? have you switched to it in the
configuration? 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK it works!
 now i have to understand how ;-)
 d

 [it does not work under enlightenment but it's not a qwo matter]

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-22 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello Giovanni,

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed it from opkg.org on my Om2008.12, but when I
 click on the
 Linball icon, I get a Application run error and
 nothing happens.
 
 What can I do?

You can try to run the game from shell and to check the output.

You also need some libraries to run the game:
http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt

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Re: Alternative numeric keyboard

2009-01-22 Thread Pander
Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
 Pander schrieb:
 Hi all,

 Have a look here for an alternative numeric keyboard:
   http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html
 It is called illume-keyboards-numbers-alt

 And have a look here:
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards
 Perhaps someone can improve the procedure for creating keyboard icons.
   
 here is a video tut DIY illume kbd icon (read description, it is not 
 perfect ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QNL1mvXdI
 i dont know why, but there is no option to watch it in high quality, but 
 anyone who used inkscape for only 5 minutes should get it.

Thanks

Hope the original designer of the icons can anwer these questions:
- which font did you use?
- which Gaussian blur did you use?

 Regards,

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Untested code:
 
   import httplib
   conn = httplib.HTTPConnection(tile.openstreetmap.org)
   conn.request(HEAD, /file...)
   r1 = conn.getresponse()
   print r1.status, r1.reason
   etag = getheader(ETag)
   print etag
 
 And if stuff was new, make GET instead of HEAD

   The 'If-None-Match:' header field of the GET request appears to do the
right thing. 

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.26

   Example using wget when we don't have the tile:

$ wget --server-response http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
--2009-01-22 18:14:19--  http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
Løser tile.openstreetmap.org...128.40.58.204
Connecting to tile.openstreetmap.org|128.40.58.204|:80... forbundet.
HTTP forespørgsel sendt, afventer svar... 
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:14:19 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu)
  ETag: 865cd3d3cc1cf8ae3cf920234f539d91
  Content-Length: 5822
  Cache-Control: max-age=518361
  Expires: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:13:40 GMT
  Keep-Alive: timeout=3, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: image/png
Længde: 5822 (5,7K) [image/png]
Saving to: `7.png'

2009-01-22 18:14:19 (179 KB/s) - `7.png' saved [5822/5822]

   Example where we have an up-to-date tile already:

$ wget --server-response \
--header 'If-None-Match: 865cd3d3cc1cf8ae3cf920234f539d91' \
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
--2009-01-22 18:15:25--  http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
Løser tile.openstreetmap.org...128.40.58.204
Connecting to tile.openstreetmap.org|128.40.58.204|:80... forbundet.
HTTP forespørgsel sendt, afventer svar... 
  HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:15:25 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu)
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Keep-Alive: timeout=3, max=100
  ETag: 865cd3d3cc1cf8ae3cf920234f539d91
  Expires: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:17:50 GMT
  Cache-Control: max-age=522144
2009-01-22 18:15:25 FEJL 304: Not Modified.

   Example where we have an outdated tile:

$ wget --server-response \
--header 'If-None-Match: 865cd3d3cc1cf8ae3cf920234f539d90' \
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
--2009-01-22 18:23:10--  http://tile.openstreetmap.org/5/6/7.png
Løser tile.openstreetmap.org...128.40.58.204
Connecting to tile.openstreetmap.org|128.40.58.204|:80... forbundet.
HTTP forespørgsel sendt, afventer svar... 
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:23:10 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu)
  ETag: 865cd3d3cc1cf8ae3cf920234f539d91
  Content-Length: 5822
  Cache-Control: max-age=522491
  Expires: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:31:22 GMT
  Keep-Alive: timeout=3, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: image/png
Længde: 5822 (5,7K) [image/png]
Saving to: `7.png'

2009-01-22 18:23:10 (129 KB/s) - `7.png' saved [5822/5822]


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Re: can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it

2009-01-22 Thread James Richardson
Yep, my bad. You have to SSH into the Freerunner from your PC and run it.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 Am Donnerstag, den 22.01.2009, 10:19 -0500 schrieb James Richardson:
  You will need to run it from a Linux computer with your Freerunner
  attached and booted into one of the OM distros. You have to
  right-click the link to the installer.sh file and save it to your
  Linux PC. Then make it executable with the command chmod +x
  installer.sh. Then just run it in a terminal. It will go through
  several stages to partition and format your SD Card and then
  download and unpack the Debian distro onto it over the USB connection.

 eh, this sounds dangerous. Please, run the install.sh script on your
 FreeRunner, not on your PC.

 This should do quite nicely, when run _on the FreeRunner_
 $ wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
 $ chmod +x install.sh
 $ ./install.sh
 # Read and understand
 $ ./install.sh

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 08:20:59AM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote:
 ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
 files. The main problem is the fixed number of inodes which I ran out of
 despite having 2Gb still free on the SD card partition :(  To work
 around, create the file system with -b 1024 -i 1024 for the maximum
 number of inodes - unfortunately this cant be changed after the FS is
 created.

   This is another problem that would be solved by using ReiserFS. It is a
pity that it is not compiled into the kernel as shipped by the
distributions.

  (I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has been
obsolete for years. Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has worked
flawlessly for me on my desktop systems.)

[1] http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0003.1/0714.html

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[Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-22 Thread Matthew Lane
I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?  
I'd like to bulk download to my SD card all of the maps for at least my 
area, if not my state and the entire country.  I'm aware tango-gps can 
bulk download up to +6 zoom levels, but this isn't enough for me!  Thanks.

Matthew Lane

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[OM2008-12] syslog output...

2009-01-22 Thread john dowd
I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in
/var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really
need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is
actually running so where is its output?

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Re: [OM2008-12] syslog output...

2009-01-22 Thread john dowd
yes it does, thanks!

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Thursday 22 January 2009 20:48:43 schrieb john dowd:
 I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in
 /var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really
 need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is
 actually running so where is its output?

 Cheers!!

 Doesn't logread show the syslog? IIRC it does Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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Re: New Default Illume Keybd Layout

2009-01-22 Thread Brock
I extracted it and dropped it into place to work in debian. I've been
using it for several days and like this layout quite a bit... I threw in
a fuzz factor of 60 for sloppy slapping the keyboard, works great.

--Brock

On 2009.01.17.11.47, Shashank Bharadwaj wrote:
| On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:
| 
| 
|  Hi,
|   Well, I rearranged the default illume keyboard to increase the letters (a
|  little) and optimise for right hand input.
|  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2172078/Screenshot-1.png
| 
| 
| I just tried it out. Had to do:
| 
| wget http://www.opkg.org/packages/illume-default-alt_0.1_arm.ipk
| opkg install illume-default-alt_0.1_arm.ipk
| /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
| 
| to get it working.
| 
| It works great. Thanks.
| 
| 
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Re: [Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/1/22 Matthew Lane mal...@purdue.edu:
 I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?

Why not use navit? It uses the same osm source, but does the rendering
itself, which is not quite as pretty as that from Osmarender, which
tangogps uses, but grabbing a map of the USA is trivial.

Regards

Jeff

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Re: [OM2008-12] syslog output...

2009-01-22 Thread john dowd
Actually I spoke too soon.

When I watch my FR boot, I can see the wpa_supplicant is printing out
some errors and a fair amount of text as to what the error is. When I
do a dmesg those messages are not there, when I do a logread to a
file and examine the file, it's not their either. Also, logread is the
output from the driver and kernel printk primitive, not what I would
see in a proper syslog which is where wpa_supplicant and various
startup daemons would print.

Cheers!!

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM, john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes it does, thanks!

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Thursday 22 January 2009 20:48:43 schrieb john dowd:
 I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in
 /var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really
 need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is
 actually running so where is its output?

 Cheers!!

 Doesn't logread show the syslog? IIRC it does Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Sander,

Your build is also not supporting ipv6. i narrowed it down to minimo not
resolving ipv6 addresses.
Using http://[2001:4860:0:1001::68] works.
Using http://ipv6.google.com does not work.
ping6 ipv6.google.com from the command line also works.

PING ipv6.google.com (2001:4860:0:1001::68): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: seq=0 ttl=60 time=422.222 ms

Hope you can build minimo with ipv6 support.

Kind regards,
Ed

Sander van Grieken wrote:
 wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2
   
 that would be mine :-)
 it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
 since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever
 be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian
 packages or build my own.

 you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any
 development still going on with minimo.
 

 Hi,

 A week or so back I built a Minimo package for FSO and submitted it to 
 opkg.org. I don't
 know if it has IPv6 support and it'll probably complain about dependency 
 version numbers
 if you're on OM2008.x, but you could try to install it with -force-depends 
 and see if it
 works.

 If it has no IPv6 support then let me know and I'll have a look at building a 
 new package.

 Also be aware that Minimo has no bookmark management, which kinda sucks

 grtz,
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Re: [Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-22 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/23 Matthew Lane mal...@purdue.edu:
 I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?
 I'd like to bulk download to my SD card all of the maps for at least my
 area, if not my state and the entire country.  I'm aware tango-gps can
 bulk download up to +6 zoom levels, but this isn't enough for me!  Thanks.

how big is your microsd card?

some rough calcs show, that even at 5kb per tile, to get the entire
country you're going to need a 5TB card for zooms 5-18, to store a
billion files

this may be helped by the suggestions elsewhere of using one copy of
the blank land/sea tiles, and linking to it, but not a huge amount

are you sure you need all those tiles?

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Re: Speech dispatcher output to bluetooth (navit) ?

2009-01-22 Thread Lothar Behrens
Has no one got the output of speech-dispatcher into a bouetooth  
headset ?


Using mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth works, but not spd-say. It  
always comes out of the speaker.
When I use espeak -w file, the file comes with rubbish - or too fast.  
I assume it is not 44100.


Also doing so takes a while more to be transformed and may not well  
suited for navit.


Even when I take my working mplayer script that automatically connects  
to the bluetooth device,
it seems to be required to explicitly using -ao alsa:device=bluetooth  
to get bluetooth working.


Without that the sound comes from the internal speaker.

Is it right that then speech-dispatcher must be modified to support  
bluetooth device ?


Thanks

Lothar

Am 19.01.2009 um 20:55 schrieb Lothar Behrens:


Hi,

as of the success of Jabra BT3030 I thought how to let speech  
dispatcher talk to the bluetooth device too.
But I didn't found anything in the documentation and the output  
modules in the speechd.conf file does not

seem to be able to.

Is there any way to redirect the output other than with a temporary  
file ?


My experience to play /opt/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav with mplayer  
takes about 12 secs to play these short three beeps.
That is to much time (ok I do an scp job, but that may be the cpu  
load simulation :-)


Using that in a script in combination with spd-say would probably  
not working for navit.


It would be great to use Jabra BT3030 for navit too :-)

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Lothar

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Re: Dead FR: does not boot IT NOW DOES

2009-01-22 Thread Peter Nijs
Borrowing a nokia battery isn't difficult, but it's not good pr for the 
freerunner tho.

depeje

On Thursday 22 January 2009 16:25:37 Eildert Groeneveld wrote:
 Just to update all of you: meanwhile the FR is alive again. None of tricks
 mentioned here cut, except replacing the apparently totally drained battery
 with that from a compatible Nokia phone. After booting I connected my FR to
 power and exchanged the batteries agaian and charging went ahead as one
 would expect.

 So we do not really ever have a problem with our nice FR as long as there
 are friends around who are willing to lend a battery.

 greetings

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Re: Dead FR: does not boot IT NOW DOES

2009-01-22 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Thursday 22 January 2009, Peter Nijs wrote:
 Borrowing a nokia battery isn't difficult, but it's not good pr for the
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Re: IPv6 for minimo

2009-01-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
 Hi Sander,

 Your build is also not supporting ipv6. i narrowed it down to minimo not
 resolving ipv6 addresses.
 Using http://[2001:4860:0:1001::68] works.
 Using http://ipv6.google.com does not work.
 ping6 ipv6.google.com from the command line also works.

 PING ipv6.google.com (2001:4860:0:1001::68): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: seq=0 ttl=60 time=422.222 ms

 Hope you can build minimo with ipv6 support.

 Kind regards,

Hmm Google is not the best example here because if your ISP ipv6
connectivity hasn't been validated by google, you won't be able to
resolv the name from ipv6 (only ipv4)

All is described here : http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/

(but it's not the pb here ;) because you can resolv with icmp request...)


 Ed

 Sander van Grieken wrote:
 wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2

 that would be mine :-)
 it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
 since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever
 be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian
 packages or build my own.

 you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any
 development still going on with minimo.


 Hi,

 A week or so back I built a Minimo package for FSO and submitted it to 
 opkg.org. I don't
 know if it has IPv6 support and it'll probably complain about dependency 
 version numbers
 if you're on OM2008.x, but you could try to install it with -force-depends 
 and see if it
 works.

 If it has no IPv6 support then let me know and I'll have a look at building 
 a new package.

 Also be aware that Minimo has no bookmark management, which kinda sucks

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Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)

2009-01-22 Thread Josh Thompson
On Thu January 15 2009 3:06:37 pm Johny Tenfinger wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 20:38, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net 
wrote:
  Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR?

 Check .desktop file if have Keyboard (but i'm not sure that it's
 correct name) category, and select it in Keyboard menu after clicking
 Illume's wrench on top shelf.

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Jim Ancona
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)

 U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time
 afaik.

Some of the kernels floating are larger than 2mb, which requires a
change to U-boot parameters (or switching to Qi).

The Koolu kernel Russel refers to shouldn't require any change.

Jim

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Re: How to view Qtopia .pic files

2009-01-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Pander wrote:
 How can I view Qtopia .pic files on my Ubuntu machine and possibly
 convert them to PNG/SVG?

They could be converted back to svg, but I wasn't able to make the
qtopia tool work for me.
I suggest you to browse the Qtopia source to get the original svg files
from which the pic files are generated.

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-22 Thread William Kenworthy
Agree. Every system Ive put ext2/3 on has had problems, lost data,
corruptions, constant need to fsck, even whole filesystems
unrecoverable. I think its only useful where you have simple systems, a
UPS and light usage.  And ext2/3 on a freerunner SD card just emphasises
what a crap filesystem they are for modern uses.  I will start
experimenting with ext4 on a non-critical system soon, but I dont hold
much hope its any better.

Reiserfs3 however just rocks!

BillK


On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 20:21 +0100, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 08:20:59AM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote:
  ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
  files. The main problem is the fixed number of inodes which I ran out of
  despite having 2Gb still free on the SD card partition :(  To work
  around, create the file system with -b 1024 -i 1024 for the maximum
  number of inodes - unfortunately this cant be changed after the FS is
  created.
 
This is another problem that would be solved by using ReiserFS. It is a
 pity that it is not compiled into the kernel as shipped by the
 distributions.
 
   (I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has been
 obsolete for years. Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has worked
 flawlessly for me on my desktop systems.)
 
 [1] http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0003.1/0714.html
 
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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Cédric Berger
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 06:21, Charles Pax charles@gmail.com wrote:
 If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly
 workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream


Yes, there is touchscreen only support in development.
The coming android cupcake branch does include software keyboard support.

But the Neo has only 2 buttons which is really not enough...

See thread 
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/fbade4fc62021894/2c80b560c616b22c
:

Cupcake still requires the send, end, home, menu, and back hard keys
to function properly.

So we still need workarounds to simulate 5 keys with only 2 available

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