Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I've updated to the recent version of SHR unstable (opkg update/upgrade yesterday) and tried to pair with my car today.. (BMW Pro Radio) I followed the instructions from the Wiki [1] (not much to follow for SHR, it seems) and I got the MAC from the car.. used the simple-agent to pair.. my car asked me to enter a PIN for pairing.. then the FR asked me for it.. and once I entered that it's happy.. (trying a second time quits with message that there's already a bond with that device) Yes, it seems you used the correct instructions. You might want to remove the bonding before trying again, for that supply an additional dummy parameter to simple-agent. However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. Needless to say, pairing with my Nokia 6500C works like a charm.. :( It'd be interesting to try it with some laptop (running bluez4, of course). The Wiki [1] says that I should log with hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump but that command is not available on my FR... Hm, it should be, probably in some additional bluez package (but do not install bluez3!) -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support
Just another data point - if your using streaming audio across wifi (I am using mplayer streaming from my ISP's radio offerings), a2dp can suffer badly if using wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf - it seriously interferes with bluetooth BillK On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:55 +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: One thing I don't understand: intone with a2dp: mplayer usage around 40% and sometimes spikes to everything available (80-85%) == no fluent playback intone without a2dp: 12% cpu == fluent playback how come? Well the a2dp stuff seems to be fairly cpu intensive, presumably because it's having to performing sbc encoding before sending the audio to the device (most devices support direct streaming of mp3 data but I don't think this is possible with mplayer, it is with gstreamer though). You should still be able to get reasonable mp3 playback, you won't get acceptable ogg playback though, as the combination of a2dp and ogg decoding appears to be too much for the cpu to handle. If you're getting very choppy playback with mp3s and you're using bluez4 then try running hciconfig hci0 lm master; hciconfig hci0 lp hold,sniff,park after starting the bluetooth daemon. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
I think they have chose another form factor for this application :) 2009/6/11 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com: what about increase, decrease and stop vibration*? *openvibe ref On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Jeremy McNaughton jeremy.mcnaugh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Kosak...@piradio.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :) Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I will not, but I can give some other hints :) It doesn't have one, but theree buttons. My dos centavos Kosa My guess is a portable media player... reverse, play/pause, and forward. Jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery ID chip - help needed
Christoph Pulster wrote: While working out a solution, we get stuck on the point the battery has some coded ID-Chip. This chip is not available on the market. Also the data can not be copied to another IC because its crypted. Hmm, I wonder what that would be or what it would do :-) I haven't actually taken apart a GTA02 battery yet, but what should be in there are some pretty standard Li-Ion protection circuit (note that cut-off voltage and cut-off behaviour can differ among such protection circuits, e.g., the GTA02 battery needs some prodding to come back to life after a cut-off. That's what caused all the fun with the Vsys cap problems.) and of course the Coulomb counter. The bq27000 is a pretty accessible part. You can buy it at Digi-Key. No secret handshake involved :-) Paul Fertser and Joerg have done some investigation on the factory settings of the bq27000, so they may have suggestions for a better configuration. - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery ID chip - help needed
Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org writes: Paul Fertser and Joerg have done some investigation on the factory settings of the bq27000, so they may have suggestions for a better configuration. Yeah, the main suggestion being don't forget to actually configure it! :) Reconfiguration after the pack is out of the factory is hard because it needs 21V on PROG pin, so the right thing should be done from the beginning. For that one needs to carefully look at all accessible documentation for particular cells and then fill bq27000 eeprom accordingly. The datasheet is quite clear about what is expected to be there and proper programming will bring more accurate measurements and therefore improve user experience :) -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a starting point for a community organization charter on the wiki
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jeremy McNaughtonjeremy.mcnaugh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've started a (very rough) draft charter for the community organization on the wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Charter With a little help this could eventually become our charter for a sub-group of Linux International. Great Jeremy, I respect your work to help the community to go to a direction and not just mess around! I think that the idea of a foundation is great and skilled people (like you) are needed to set it up. I hope that people will get involved in the discussion and people with experience about organizations and foundations would step up. Don't be ashamed, we need you! and Jeremy, I don't think you're stepping on anyone's feet as long as things are open and you welcome people to participate. If someone feels ignored, they should again tell you that. I wouldn't oppose if you had some leader position - the leader doesn't have to know everything about everything as long as he has people to work with, who know at least the most of something :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First SSH to FR: Permission denied
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:27 -0500, Mike wrote: I am now trying 192.168.0.202 and have no response. In fact, I get: ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202 PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) from 192.168.0.200 usb0: 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable ^C --- 192.168.0.202 ping statistics --- 9 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 8147ms pipe 3 but ifconfig -a eth0 ... ... usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr DE:D7:63:45:48:6B inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Hi Mike, It seems your usb interface is down. the UP before broadcast is missing! From my FR: usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ea:83:b5:ec:59:0a inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::e883:b5ff:feec:590a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:472185 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:645971 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:149186833 (142.2 MiB) TX bytes:840254294 (801.3 MiB) Perhaps you need to issue ifconfig usb0 up? Good luck! Ed my firewall is off and I added 192.168.0.202 om to /etc/hosts On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:47:35 Korbinian Rosenegger wrote: Hi Try 192.168.0.202, the IP you tried is your desktop :) I've also done this many times until i added this line to /etc/hosts on my desktop: 192.168.0.202 om cu Korbi On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 20:17 -0500, Mike wrote: Hello -- I just got the FR. Very nice! I am trying to SSH to FR to check the firmware version. I can ping 192.168.0.200 with 0% loss. However, when I ssh r...@192.168.0.200 and enter either blank (as suggested in the Wiki) or root password at the prompt I get Permission denied, please try again. What is the problem? Thank you for your time, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First SSH to FR: Permission denied
- make sure, your lan uses another subnet than 192.168.0.X - check the output of netstat -rn on your host, if a route to the fr exists at all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery ID chip - help needed
Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto: So inserting a nokia BL-5C battery is not complete solution. (because it lacks the coulomb counter), and freerunner cant charge it (currently) Not true, I asked my colleague to recharge my BL-5C battery with his FR while using my old Nokia some days ago and it completely charged. and cant display the remaining capacity. This is true :) Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Chronometer
I have released new version based on Elementary named echrono - faster startup and nicer interface, if someone interested, he will find it again on http://www.mikecrash.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--Chronometer-tp2553524p3060754.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mer on OpenMoko devices ?
2009/6/9 RzR www.rzr.online.fr www.rzr.online...@gmail.com I was able to make a demo and to provide a bootable image of mer for freerunner download it to your sdcard and boot it Or check video demo at : http://www.newlc.com/en/mer-best-maemo-debianubuntu-mobiles-watch-freerunner-demo On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Russell Hayrusse...@ysmail.net wrote: Hey RzR, as no-one else has replied let me just say this looks fantastic! Thanks, but the mer/maemo community is guilty for that :) Of course, there's no phone stack etc just yet, this may change with upcoming n900 with is also a GNU/linux *PHONE* http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=293687posted=1#post293687 so where is development http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mer is a good starting point, we'll update major news happening on this so I can keep an eye on progress? newlc provide is a linux+mobile rss feed http://www.newlc.com/en/newlc/term/34/feed By the way a new version is planned , just ask and I can update the bootable image at : http://digg.com/linux_unix/mer_merge_of_maemo_debian_ubuntu_on_freerunner_mobile_ddl -- Related Obsession : http://rzr.online.fr/q/esd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: The Wiki [1] says that I should log with hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump but that command is not available on my FR... Hm, it should be, probably in some additional bluez package (but do not install bluez3!) Indeed - my bad... I should have checked that, sorry.. installing bluez-hcidump now.. (I sure hope it's not bluez3 dependent) I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Thank you.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Counting in octal is just like counting in decimal, if you don't use your thumbs. - Tom Lehrer -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
The openmoko-fso-paroli-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz doesn't boot X it remains in console, in fact it lacks of x11 init scripts deamon /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm yes I know the recommendation is to wait for t5 but my restless ass can just be quiet waiting :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. That's somewhat discouraging.. but totally understandable.. I find anything wireless to be black magick.. :D Well, we'll make the most of it.. my worst case scenario would be that I'll keep using the Nokia until BT works as expected. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use regular expressions. Now they have two problems. - Jamie Zawinski -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:08 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... BMW Pro Radio... I think we are not only talking about a headset. I guess we are talking about a handsfree car kit. I am also planning to pair my FR to my Mondeo, but did not try it yet, because I heard that Hands Free Profile is not fully supported yet. I planned to do something in this area but did not find the time yet. I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Hm, that sounds weird. Can you try to disable this functionality? What is written in your BMW manual wrt cellphone compatibility? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
see below On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kosak...@piradio.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :) Me too :p Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, I didn't promise anybody anything :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 11:21 +0200, Thomas Franck wrote: Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. That's somewhat discouraging.. but totally understandable.. I find anything wireless to be black magick.. :D Well, we'll make the most of it.. my worst case scenario would be that I'll keep using the Nokia until BT works as expected. I came so far that I found a project, http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html, which is not HFP (Hands Free Profile) but the server (if FR is the client). So my guess is, if I can get my FR to connect with this, it should also connect to my car. The advantage is, for testing that one can dumb and debug the whole BT-communication, because nohands also runs on Linux-machine. Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Hm, that sounds weird. Can you try to disable this functionality? What is written in your BMW manual wrt cellphone compatibility? *g* They say I should ask the BMW Service about which phones are supported. I am dead sure that they never heard about the FR.. ;) With unsupported phones, errors may occur.. lol A somewhat unrelated note: even the T-Mobile guy from technical support rang me up and asked what an Openmoko FreeRunner was (I sent them a mail about GPRS connection details).. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Joerg Eesmann wrote: I came so far that I found a project, http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html, which is not HFP (Hands Free Profile) but the server (if FR is the client). So my guess is, if I can get my FR to connect with this, it should also connect to my car. The advantage is, for testing that one can dumb and debug the whole BT-communication, because nohands also runs on Linux-machine. Hmm... if my test later fails and provides no new information, it'll be worth a try.. ;) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Has everyone noticed that all the letters of the word database are typed with the left hand? Now the layout of the QWERTYUIOP typewriter keyboard was designed, among other things, to facilitate the even use of both hands. It follows, therefore, that writing about databases is not only unnatural, but a lot harder than it appears. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Chronometer
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mike Crashm...@mikecrash.com wrote: I have released new version based on Elementary named echrono - faster startup and nicer interface, if someone interested, he will find it again on http://www.mikecrash.com Screenshots Mike, screenshots!! (ok, found it at http://www.mikecrash.com/images/content/neo/echrono.png ) Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:41:44PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: The openmoko-fso-paroli-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz doesn't boot X it remains in console, in fact it lacks of x11 init scripts deamon /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm yes I know the recommendation is to wait for t5 but my restless ass can just be quiet waiting :) Yep, noticed :/ I'm running unstable all the time and this image was not a nice surprise :( (and yes, I know that using unstable it's possible that this happens so I don't blame anyone :) Anyway, t5 should be around soon.. Phew! I was about to install that :) Lucky me :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images
Me wrote: tmpfs /vas/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 oops, should be: tmpfs /var/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kosa k...@piradio.org wrote: It doesn't have one, but theree buttons. theree buttons? ... It must be a windows device :) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vdl19/Pages_Blagues/Images_blagues/Ctr_alt_del.jpg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
Hi! I have created packages for the canola media player (see http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/ for screenshots). canola was originally developed for the maemo platform and was open sourced recently. It is based on the e17 libraries, so it is destined for the shr distribution ;) Sources for the packages are from http://local.profusion.mobi:8081/ based on the branches from Gustavo. canola has some dependencies so I created a testing feed. You can find the packages at http://schagaga.de/canolafeed/ The bitbake recipes are mirrored at http://schagaga.de/myoverlay/ opkg install canola installs canola and all its dependencies on the FR. Currently there are a few glitches: * canola package depends on glibc-gconv-iso8859-15 otherwise lightmediascanner does not work * player UI does not fit exactly the lower resolution on the FR (canola is optimised for the resolution on the Nokia N8x0 800x480) but it's usable. User experience is better when rotating screen in landscape mode. As backend mplayer is used for playback. Generally the UI is a little bit sluggish on the FR than on the Nokia N8x0 but I think it's really usable. I am looking forward to your feedback ;) Cheers, hermann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
Ebook reader. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko keyboard
dear all.. I'm having problems with the ML I still have to fix, I can't receive messages anymore. The slide is from the bottom-right corner towards the diagonal. I've spent a few time in the past to find out how to have a visual feedback, but didn't really understand how to add a simple red dot somewhere on the screen.. I had to stop because I sent my moko to debuzz heaven, it came back today and next week I'll be out, I hope to send a couple patches soon. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
2009/6/11 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: Ebook reader. by it size it must be a business card reader :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
Hi, Really cool! Thank you very much for the packages. I didn't even know they opened their source code. Canola is by far the coolest media player for mobile devices I've seen so far. And everthing works as expected on the freerunner except the battery and network indicators. Even performance is good in comparison to other apps on my freerunner. I've tested only the music section so far, no videos, pictures, podcasts etc... The packes work fine on up-to-date shr-unstable. The first install run stopped due to a file conflict between etk-themes and etk-theme-shr. But I don't think this is related to your packages. The second run (whithout changes) completes fine though. Thanks again, Michael On Thursday 11 June 2009 14:02:17 Hermann Lacheiner wrote: Hi! I have created packages for the canola media player (see http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/ for screenshots). canola was originally developed for the maemo platform and was open sourced recently. It is based on the e17 libraries, so it is destined for the shr distribution ;) Sources for the packages are from http://local.profusion.mobi:8081/ based on the branches from Gustavo. canola has some dependencies so I created a testing feed. You can find the packages at http://schagaga.de/canolafeed/ The bitbake recipes are mirrored at http://schagaga.de/myoverlay/ opkg install canola installs canola and all its dependencies on the FR. Currently there are a few glitches: * canola package depends on glibc-gconv-iso8859-15 otherwise lightmediascanner does not work * player UI does not fit exactly the lower resolution on the FR (canola is optimised for the resolution on the Nokia N8x0 800x480) but it's usable. User experience is better when rotating screen in landscape mode. As backend mplayer is used for playback. Generally the UI is a little bit sluggish on the FR than on the Nokia N8x0 but I think it's really usable. I am looking forward to your feedback ;) Cheers, hermann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A few questions on navit
Hi, maybe someone can help me out here as I could not find appropriate answers in navit wiki... The menu in in internal GUI has several options that I am not sure about if they change anything in the app: Settings/Rules/Map follows Vehicle (cannot change the 'x') To find a point on the map it would be helpful to disable the auto centering for that time... Settings/Maps Route,Route Graph, Navigation, Tracking - do they do anything? It would be nice to be able to turn tracklogging on and off here, but the only way I found to do so is in navit.xml itself. Is there a way to turn speech output on and off in the GUI? I have configured speech-dispatcher in navit.xml and use the following toggle: osd enabled=yes type=toggle_announcer x=-70 y=292 w=70 h=70 icon_src=$NAVIT_SHAREDIR/xpm/%s_70_70.png / But the icon does not change :( (both icons exist btw and the one for sound is displayed correctly). Version is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r2 from SHR + 70px icons from [4] Some references I used: [1] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit [2] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Gui_internal [3] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD [4] http://www.kazer.org/navit/freerunner_navit_icons.tar Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:41:44PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: The openmoko-fso-paroli-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz doesn't boot X it remains in console, in fact it lacks of x11 init scripts deamon /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm yes I know the recommendation is to wait for t5 but my restless ass can just be quiet waiting :) Yep, noticed :/ I'm running unstable all the time and this image was not a nice surprise :( (and yes, I know that using unstable it's possible that this happens so I don't blame anyone :) Anyway, t5 should be around soon.. Phew! I was about to install that :) Lucky me :) The packages are building again, reflashing is needed (upgrade will not work as some packages have been downgraded and opkg can't handle that..). Thanks Angus for this! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images
Hi, Radek, is Qt 4.5.1 in your master tree? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Me wrote: tmpfs /vas/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 oops, should be: tmpfs /var/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Ebook reader. by it size it must be a business card reader :P Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata. Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train, HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc). So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy. Just a hunch;) Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
An indestructible brick! it is a what we called a white weapon. ;-) On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Ebook reader. by it size it must be a business card reader :P Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata. Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train, HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc). So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy. Just a hunch;) Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- ing. Javier O. Ramírez Martínez Key fingerprint = CBFD AEC9 E7F9 C726 03BF 3D85 7B9E 47A7 EB84 70D4 http://linux.mty.itesm.mx/~oramirez http://picasaweb.google.com/javier.ramirez ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:14:34PM +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Ebook reader. by it size it must be a business card reader :P Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata. Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train, HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc). So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy. Considering the device shown by Sean, squarish, full-screen, about as thin or thinner than the FreeRunner, now it's been said it has three buttons... I'd go for the media playing device, maybe even using www.rockbox.org :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images
HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Radek, is Qt 4.5.1 in your master tree? Not yet, it's branch qt451 now. I am planing to merge soon. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
Robin Paulson wrote: apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/ i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything other than square keys? Not sure if that is needed. The patented triangular keyboard reduces mis-typing by having unresponsive areas around each key. The same can be achieved by having unresponsive area around rectangular keys too. Easily done by making said rectangular keys smaller, without moving them closer together. Of course, the keys are already very small, so this is problematic. They could get harder to hit. But triangles have the same problem, although they may look cooler to some. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Ebook reader. I even found the first prototype;) http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power dongle
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Yeah, I'd kinda prefer one that's nigh unto infinitesimal and only lasts a few seconds, but I'll search for emergency phone chargers. I guess the market for 15s power supplies is too small for anyone to make a product. You may want to improvise something like this: * Get a usb connector that fits * Stack up enough button-size batteries to get between 4.0 and 5.0 volts * Cut most of the wire off that usb connector. Bare the two wires needed for power, and tape them to opposite sides of the stack of batteries. * More tape around everything, for electrical insulation. This is about as small as it gets. Probably over 15s of phone power, in a package not much bigger than the tiny batteries. Exact size depends on how good you are at cutting down the usb connector, and how small batteries you can find. When the batteries run out, get new ones and more tape. :-) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power dongle
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: The Digital Pioneer wrote: Yeah, I'd kinda prefer one that's nigh unto infinitesimal and only lasts a few seconds, but I'll search for emergency phone chargers. I guess the market for 15s power supplies is too small for anyone to make a product. You may want to improvise something like this: * Get a usb connector that fits * Stack up enough button-size batteries to get between 4.0 and 5.0 volts * Cut most of the wire off that usb connector. Bare the two wires needed for power, and tape them to opposite sides of the stack of batteries. * More tape around everything, for electrical insulation. Maybe use capacitors? if you only need a few seconds... and you never have to worry about replacing them. Cameron 'Toaster' Frazier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power dongle
Well that's about the size I was looking for, but that's gonna get real expensive real fast (batteries dying). :\ I was thinking about something rechargeable. I'll probably just get one of those emergency chargers, though I'm not really interested in recharging, just hotswapping. Some of them get pretty small too, and having more power wouldn't hurt. Just have to find one with rechargeable batteries itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power dongle
Yeah, I think that would work. I don't know anything about electronics at that level, though. I make (a little) software, not hardware. :P Can someone suggest exactly what I need? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
Just flashed the latest unstable from today. The first start was a chaos (you don't want to know :) but after restart things look better - I think it actually works :) Let's see some more reports.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:56:46PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Just flashed the latest unstable from today. The first start was a chaos (you don't want to know :) but after restart things look better - I think it actually works :) Let's see some more reports.. I've just flashed it as well, making now the dreaded second boot so things work :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:40:43AM -0700, neove...@freerunner wrote: It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent keyboard for the freerunner within one year. Is there even any attempt to make one? They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get used to it, but I think it is definitely worth it. You can make it larger or smaller as necessary and because there are only nine zones, they can be relatively large without taking up too much space in total. All the characters needed for shell commands and such are there. I typed in about a third of the apt-get-file script I posted[2] with qwo while on the train. [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html [2] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-May/047590.html -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:56:46PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Just flashed the latest unstable from today. The first start was a chaos (you don't want to know :) but after restart things look better - I think it actually works :) Let's see some more reports.. I've just flashed it as well, making now the dreaded second boot so things work :) Don't expect too much - looks like that it suspends even when I set the suspend to -1... (- flashing back to 3.6. image, waiting for Angus to enjoy his weekend come back to fix this stuff..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting from mSD
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 08:26:48AM -0700, Test wrote: [21474545.115000] Warning: unable to open an initial console. /dev/console is missing. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] No sound on incomming calls after merge
Hi, i have merged changes from Franky's git, compiled and put result image on my debian rootfs. I am now testing how it works, but have one quite obvious issue. On FR i cant hear the other side on incomming call. The other side can hear me. Outgoing calls seem to work. When i unpack older build on the same rootfs, all is ok. Anyone has idea what can be the problem? Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. Tried again.. as expected, no luck... however, I got the dump.. I started it before pairing.. and let it run and run after the FR was happy with pairing.. (I thought the radio may give up - but after 5 mins it still said pairing in progress...) Anyone interested can find the dump here (11k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/bt.dump and the log here (6k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/log.txt (yeah, I used the always handy 1234 pin.. lol) I actually thought the dump would be kinda readable.. can anyone read that?? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Gray's Law of Programming N+1 trivial tasks are expected to be accomplished in the same time as N trivial tasks. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots
Hi guys, Jon Levell wrote: I'm writing an article for LWN (http://www.lwn.net) saying that I think SHR is now suitable for your typical LWN.net reader). The article is now online for LWN subscribers. It's subscribers only for 7 days. When it's free I'll add a link in this thread. Thanks for your help everyone. Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing in the UK?
Hi, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: [debuzzing in the UK] http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail... I'd just like to say that I sent my phone to Dr. N. for debuzzing (I live in the UK) and he was friendly and helpful. If everyone in business answered e-mails so quickly even when a sail doesn't directly depend on it, the world would be a better place. Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Better handling of AUX and POWER buttons
Hi! I apologize if this is an old topic and was discussed many time before. I tried hackable:1 some days ago, and I found that AUX/POWER buttons is handled very nice. I suppose that it cames from 2007.2 neod, but I was aware of it as I flashed my freerunner with ASU ASAP when it arrived in my hands last year. First of all the aux button is used to bring up the virtual keyboard, and this is good as I hate to use touchscreen to open it with application not e based that does not bring up it automagically when text widgets get focus, while holding it brings up a menu that let you rotate the screen, switch fullscreen mode and so on, and this is very nice as if you go fullscreen with e AFAIK there is no possibility to restore normal size or switch to other windows. Second the power button let you close an application (this is nice too!), and holding it brings up a menu to change power management, screen light and turn on/off gps/wifi/bt/gsm and the entire device. While experiencing with general not embedded oriented linux apps and developing mines I feel all these features has to be restored together with new ideas. So for a couple of days I'm thinking on how implement and improve it especially for FSO based distros. The first enhancement I thought is to give to applications the possibility to handle 4 cases: *) aux press *) power press *) hold aux, then press power *) hold power, then press aux The second is to have holding aux, power or both for a long time bringing system wide tasks (power menu, auxiliary menu, keyboard and so on). All that should be transparent to applications, e.g a special daemon should grab the input and simulate the 7 events as 7 different keys, so you may use the 1-4 directly in applications for their needs, and 5-7 for global shortcut handled for example by the windows manager or some sort of background daemon to show system menus. Actually I thinked at two solution: 1) a neod like daemon that grabs X events (XGrabKeyboard), handle key presses and forward with XSendEvent the 7 different strokes to applications or windows manager. 2) a daemon that grabs /dev/input/event* device in exclusive mode, handle key events and emulate a new keyboard with uinput capable of 7 keys. I like very much the second idea as it should be totally transparent to the system, and may be used without X too while the first should be more portable on different devices, and may be installed and used by a non privileged user too. I tryied to code a prototype for the first solution on my desktop, but I got some problems as I do not know X at lower level, so I used XGrabKeyboard to receive all key events and XSendEvent to forward them to other windows, but not all apps are compatible with that, for example Firefox does not accept text input in the navigation bar while the grabbing is active. The second problem is that using X atom on the wm to retrieve the last active window give me a short number (203, 31, 91 etc.), while XSendEvent wants some sort of different windows ID (0x301f), so some help for experienced X developer is welcome :) In the next days I'll try to implement a prototype for the second, hoping that I'll encounter less problems :) In the meaning I'd like to have comments about all that, and above all I'd like to know if I'm wasting my time while similar solutions are being developed underground :) Best regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Installing lxde problem
Hi! Trying to install lxde on debian results in: debian-gta02:~# apt-get install lxde Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: lxde: Depends: lxde-core (= 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-6) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages some help? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
Wow! This has to be the best looking, and the app with the best usability for freerunner ever! Thanks so much for the package! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr-unstable--packages-for-canola-media-player-tp3061584p3064969.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner's Future
Jeremy McNaughton wrote: 1. That the open source hardware development processes pioneered by gta02-core get formalized as part of the structure of the new organization There's always room for improvements, so I wouldn't nail down too many details. But the overall goals, i.e., the use of Open Source wherever possible, yes. 2. That the people who are working on the gta02-core will continue to work together as part of the new community organization. Definitely, yes. Of course, the community organization (heh... we need a name!) should encompass more than just hardware. The open hardware part will likely just be a part of what the organization does. Even in the hardware area, there's more than just low-risk implementation projects. E.g., there should also be activities that take on the risky bits and bring them under control. Such pioneer efforts can then be integrated into the next safe design. Also, we haven't touched the whole area of case design and manufacturing yet. There's a number of Free CAD tools that should be up to the task. We've briefly discussed them on the gta03 list a while ago. Also turning a CAD design into a prototype is not an impossible task. There are relatively inexpensive CNC mills (i.e., within the reach of many hobbyists) that should be able to make reasonably good prototypes. Access to mills or 3D printers may also exist through academic institutions or projects like Fab Lab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fab_lab I don't know if anyone actually made a case from the CAD files Openmoko released about a year ago. The CAD files themselves may not be directly useful with Free CAD tools except for making very minor changes. But I think a case-making project that follows the same approach as gta02-core, namely reconstructing and prototyping the existing design with Free tools (and making some small changes) could be rather useful for establishing the know-how that can later be used for more ambitious work. - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr/elementary] fonts and styles
raster? what are the settings i can put in a dotfile to adjust elementary app fonts and styles? when i export my display to my desktop, shr/elementary applications have horribly huge or utterly tiny fonts and the window itself is not resizable. further, buttons are extraordinarily huge. thank you! -david ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:50 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: The openmoko-fso-paroli-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om- gta02.rootfs.tar.gz doesn't boot X it remains in console, in fact it lacks of x11 init scripts deamon /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm yes I know the recommendation is to wait for t5 but my restless ass can just be quiet waiting :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The auto generated images had some issues. I triggered a new build around 12:00 CES which should be good. Tomorrows auto built images should be good. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images
By the way, is there a way to disable to autocomplete on this, and just have the keyboard respond immediately as I type, just like in the mainline QtMoko? Rene 2009/6/10 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz Hi Guys, i have created new QtMoko images on debian rootfs. You can find them together with some info on my site [1]. These images should give you: - full debian system (over ssh) - working calls/sms - working gprs - usable media player - and lot of more features In this new image QT was upgraded to version 4.5.1 and with attached patch i have fixed the missing virtual keyboard in password fields. You can find sources in my git branch qt451. Another thing is qmplayer - media player that can play ogg/mp3/avi files but is also able to download or stream media from PC. You can find more info on qmplayer homepage [2]. Kernel is now based on packaging config. The kernel size is now under 2MB so it can be booted with u-boot. We have also new logo [3] (thanks to my wife). My plan for future is to merge other's GIT's - i am running build right now, so we'll see if that worked :) On the experimenting front - i was able to run TangoGPS and other X apps via vnc. It was quite slow and mouse dragging wanst working, but still quite usable. Btw is anyone planning to release ready-to-flash QtMoko images for FSO? I see there is just install script, but i would like to have image that can be just flashed and booted. Cheers Radek [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/ [2] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qmplayer/ [3] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/qtmoko.svg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sigs are boring, except this one... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The auto generated images had some issues. I triggered a new build around 12:00 CES which should be good. Tomorrows auto built images should be good. Anyone have an idea where's this new build? The images at http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090611/ and http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/ seem to be the same. I did't download md5 but based on the release time it's the same (released at 11-Jun-2009 15:33). That's the time when all other daily builds are generated - I don't think this is the new build Angus is talking about? There's also a new kernel image out: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/README.html r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
