Re: [TangoGPS] POI coordinates as WGS84 deg and min

[Stefan Fröbe]

AFAIK, tangogps should accept the other formats happily if you enter them
correctly, I do not know if it works in all input fields, though. For
geocaching ( which is the main use of my Freerunner ) I added a bunch of
extras to tangogps waiting to be included - if you're interested, check

http://n2.nabble.com/tangogps-%2B-geocaching-(DL-link-inside)-td2983362.html

Feel free to contact me with any specific questions,

Stefan

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Marcel  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm using TGPS for geocaching. The coordinates always get listed as f.e.
> N 55° 33.218 E 008° 08.493 (WGS84 degrees and minutes)
> If I have to "build" the coordinates for the cache's second "stage" by
> hand, I only get these coordinates as reference, but TGPS needs WGS84
> Decimal Degrees as POI coordinates.
> As a feature wish: Could someone please make TGPS understand degrees and
> minutes? :)
>
> --
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> own program yet :/ )
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Re: travel-diary a simple GPS application

[Sven Klomp]

Hi Christian,

good to hear that the idea isn't dead! Looks far more solid than my few lines 
of code :-)
I will give it a try this weekend. In the meantime, screenshots would be very 
interesting...

Sven

On Thursday 09 July 2009 00:00:52 Christian Rüb wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a while ago Sven send us his scripts to store places and some info and send 
> all this to a server which then creates a kml file. [0]
> 
> I made a litte GUI for this (actually it is more a rewrite ;-)) that you can 
> find here:
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
> 
> It also contains a sample script to send you data to your web server via 
> curl. To really use this you need to set up the corresponding CGIs on your 
> server to receive your diary file and and another one to make the kml 
> download for you visitors.
> You can find examples (they are a point to start - nothing more) in the doc 
> package [2] or view/download them from the git repo [3].
> 
> For distribution integration, here is my bb recipe [4]
> 
> [0] http://n2.nabble.com/Stress-test-of-my-Freerunner-tp3038658p3045050.html
> [1] 
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
> [2] 
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary-doc_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
> [3] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary
> [4] 
> http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob_plain;f=travel-diary/travel-diary_git.bb;hb=HEAD
> 
> Feedback and questions welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls

[Adam Jimerson]

On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:54:15 am Ben Wong wrote:
> Mickey: It seems a very bad idea to default to maximum volume if it
> causes distortion.  I'm not sure yet that that's the sole audio
> problem in SHR-unstable, but I can say that when I turned the speaker
> volume down to what it was in SHR-testing (68%), I was understood
> perfectly, for the first time, by Google's voice recognition
> (1-800-GOOG-411).
>
> For anyone wondering how to use D-Bus to set the volume to 68%, you
> can do it by cutting and pasting this line:
>
>   mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68

Are you sure that mdbus call is correct I got two different error messages

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s 
org.freesmartphone.ogsmd/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Deviceorg.freesmartph
one.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
  
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
  
Service name not found  

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd 
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Deviceorg.freesmartp
hone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 

Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
  
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
  
Object name not found  

Now I may just be doing it wrong but can someone check it for me?
>
> And this line will show you the current volume:
>
>   mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume
>
> Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during
> a call.  I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all.
>  And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion?
>
> --Ben
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey'
>
> Lauer wrote:
> > FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to
> > suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume
> > in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this
> > contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via
> > org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ).
> >
> > :M:
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Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard

[clare johnstone]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:42 AM, neove...@freerunner wrote:
>
> ok thanks, found it:
>
> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/matchbox-keyboard/files

Hi Neovento;
All seems rather quiet - is everyone on Summer holiday?
I did not succeed in finding how to make the Neovento from Debian; I
am still hoping to put it on my GTA01. Also I am looking forward to
getting a current Neovento for the SD card rather than flashing it.
Looking forward even more to learning how to set it up from the source
scripts. I tried getting files from opensvn.csie.org/fyp/data/ but
only a couple are there.

Hoping to see the new keyboard with all the patches. Mine has an odd
bug in two of its keys; is anyone interested in that? Hoping to see it
made transparent like the one recently announced called Literki, but
the picture of that has vanished it seems.

There are opther little problems, the time; because it seems to
overwrite /etc/localtime with the time file for Lord Howe island after
it registers GSM.

So can we hope to see a new version anytime soon?
thank you,
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Re: Intone (0.55) Elementary mplayer frontend - updated 09 Jul

[Evgeniy Ginzburg]

c_c wrote:

>   I have a lot of code just to handle the various states of the database
> since 0.31 and it's getting difficult to 
> manage. The next version will not have this code.
>   As of now the database state should remain consistent - till the next
> major change.
> Thanks.
>   
Hey c_c.
Maybe just insert in the database some info about it's version.
And check it then Intone starts.
If db is not compatible ask user about deleting it or plain delete & 
rebuild.
Just borrowed the idea from our programmers.

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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[Martin Jansa]

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:00:52PM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> shr-unstable 20090624:
> 
> @om-gta02 ~ $ intone
> Segmentation fault
> 
> thats it.

Try to remove ~/.intone. It segfaulted for me too, but removing of
~/.intone helped.

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Re: FreeRunner A7, GSM 850?

[Ben Wong]

> Has the GSM-900 version been determine to work just as well in North America?

Well, my "international" version works fine in North America.  I
actually asked T-mobile (my carrier) and they said that they don't use
850MHz in their network.  They said they *might* have roaming partners
who use 850, but even that is unlikely.

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Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls

[Ben Wong]

Mickey: Please set the default volume back down.  I just confirmed (by
talking to a human) that when the Speaker Volume is set to 100%, the
other party hears an annoying echo of their own voice.

Thank you,

--Ben

P.S. I don't know if it matters, but I'm using a Revision A06
Freerunner, buzz-fixed.



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Ben Wong wrote:
> Mickey: It seems a very bad idea to default to maximum volume if it
> causes distortion.  I'm not sure yet that that's the sole audio
> problem in SHR-unstable, but I can say that when I turned the speaker
> volume down to what it was in SHR-testing (68%), I was understood
> perfectly, for the first time, by Google's voice recognition
> (1-800-GOOG-411).
>
> For anyone wondering how to use D-Bus to set the volume to 68%, you
> can do it by cutting and pasting this line:
>
>  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68
>
> And this line will show you the current volume:
>
>  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume
>
> Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during
> a call.  I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all.
>  And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion?
>
> --Ben
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey'
> Lauer wrote:
>> FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to
>> suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume
>> in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this
>> contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via
>> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ).
>>
>> :M:
>>
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Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls

[Ben Wong]

Mickey: It seems a very bad idea to default to maximum volume if it
causes distortion.  I'm not sure yet that that's the sole audio
problem in SHR-unstable, but I can say that when I turned the speaker
volume down to what it was in SHR-testing (68%), I was understood
perfectly, for the first time, by Google's voice recognition
(1-800-GOOG-411).

For anyone wondering how to use D-Bus to set the volume to 68%, you
can do it by cutting and pasting this line:

  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68

And this line will show you the current volume:

  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume

Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during
a call.  I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all.
 And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion?

--Ben


On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey'
Lauer wrote:
> FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to
> suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume
> in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this
> contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ).
>
> :M:
>
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[c_c]

Hi,

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> I installed that mplayer and it WORKS!!! Halelujah!! :D
> 
  I've been using that since it's a known factor - and it uses tremor for
ogg decoding.
  Can someone confirm whether the SHR version uses tremor too?
  
  Also - It would be real nice if the SHR feed (actually all feeds) could
have a version
of mplayer that is patched with the glamo patches. That way, both intone and
intone-video
can use the standard mplayer - and mplayer will also allow playing videos
with whatever little
acceleration the glamo provides.

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> Just one quick bug report: If I select a different song before pressing
> play, I think it should play that one. But instead it plays the first one
> in
> the playlist. Just a small thing, nothing to worry about too much. After
> all, the Freerunner's best media player is working again!! :D
> 
  Well, that is turning out to be something I keep overlooking. Will sort it
out by the next release.

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> Keep up the awesome work, c_c. :)
> 
  :-D Thanks. 
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[The Digital Pioneer]

I installed that mplayer and it WORKS!!! Halelujah!! :D

Just one quick bug report: If I select a different song before pressing
play, I think it should play that one. But instead it plays the first one in
the playlist. Just a small thing, nothing to worry about too much. After
all, the Freerunner's best media player is working again!! :D

Keep up the awesome work, c_c. :)
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Re: Intone (0.55) Elementary mplayer frontend - updated 09 Jul

[c_c]

Hi,

jeremy jozwik wrote:
> 
>>yippy!
>>thanks 1000x c_c
> 
  :-D You're welcome.
 
  Actually - I'm going to use this opportunity to remind __everyone__ to
delete 
/home/root/.intone/intone-songs.db
  I have a lot of code just to handle the various states of the database
since 0.31 and it's getting difficult to 
manage. The next version will not have this code.
  As of now the database state should remain consistent - till the next
major change.
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Re: Intone (0.55) Elementary mplayer frontend - updated 09 Jul

[jeremy jozwik]

yippy!

thanks 1000x c_c

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:06 PM, c_c wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> jeremy jozwik wrote:
>>
>>>shr-unstable 20090624:
>>>@om-gta02 ~ $ intone
>>>Segmentation fault
>>>thats it.
>>
>  Can you delete /home/root/.intone/intone-songs.db and try again? There
> have been so many changes
> to the database that I've lost track.
>  You will need to rescan your music folders anyway to get the mp3/ogg tags
> into the database.
> Thanks.
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[c_c]

Hi.

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
>>Had to rebuild the database again. Still no go. Locks up as soon as it
>>starts playing. Output follows.
> 
  Hmmm. Can you check what version of mplayer you're using? I'm using
mplayer - dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low from [1]. Can you try that and
post?


[1]http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk
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Intone (0.55) Elementary mplayer frontend - updated 09 Jul

[c_c]

Hi,

jeremy jozwik wrote:
> 
>>shr-unstable 20090624:
>>@om-gta02 ~ $ intone
>>Segmentation fault
>>thats it.
> 
  Can you delete /home/root/.intone/intone-songs.db and try again? There
have been so many changes
to the database that I've lost track. 
  You will need to rescan your music folders anyway to get the mp3/ogg tags
into the database.
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[jeremy jozwik]

shr-unstable 20090624:

@om-gta02 ~ $ intone
Segmentation fault

thats it.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:34 PM, c_c wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Here's the latest version. Changes :-
>
>  * better (and more stable) music scan routine
>  * support for mp3/ogg tags
>  * search by artists
>  * other minor fixes
>  * 1 regression - the duration slider is jumpy - will sort that out in the
> next release
>
>  To get the tags - please set your root music directory under songs. That
> will rescan the
> music and read tags into the database.
>
>  I have updated the svn too. This ipk will work with the -02 version of
> e-libs. Let me know
> if other versions are required.
>
>  Also - please post feedback.
>
>  I have not yet added the paroli like jump icon. Will do that soon.
>
>
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[shr-unstable] stopwatch?

[jeremy jozwik]

list, im looking for a stopwatch app. i remember my old days of
om2008.12 that there was a stopwatch app under the settings [?]

anything like this, or soon to be like this for shr?

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Re: External GPS antenna question

[Mikhail Umorin]

On Friday 03 July 2009 22:42:04 Mikhail Umorin wrote:
> Hello --
>

Thank you all for the feedback!

I have decided to get a passive antenna (Arcon: GPS-ANT-MMCX, from Amazon.com) 
for just a good reception and more accurate fix in the open. And for 
car/indoor/rainforest situations I shall get a retransmitting antenna like at

http://pc-mobile.net/gpsant.htm

when I really need it. This way I shall not be draining the battery to amplify 
the signal like with an active antenna.

Mikhail.



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Re: FreeRunner A7, GSM 850?

[jeremy jozwik]

the 900 works fine. im a user, plus it gives you the option to use it
outside the US. provided you are one of us who actually leaves this
country.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> It seems like the only A7 FreeRunners available from /any/ of the
> distributors are the 1800/1900/900-MHz `world' version (as opposed to
> the 1800/1900/850-MHz `North America' version).
>
> This includes the ones selling in the USA.
>
> Is that correct? Has the GSM-850 version been discontinued? Has the
> GSM-900 version been determine to work just as well in North America? Or...?
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FreeRunner A7, GSM 850?

[Joshua Judson Rosen]

It seems like the only A7 FreeRunners available from /any/ of the
distributors are the 1800/1900/900-MHz `world' version (as opposed to
the 1800/1900/850-MHz `North America' version).

This includes the ones selling in the USA.

Is that correct? Has the GSM-850 version been discontinued? Has the
GSM-900 version been determine to work just as well in North America? Or...?

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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[The Digital Pioneer]

Had to rebuild the database again. Still no go. Locks up as soon as it
starts playing. Output follows.

songs dir
/home/root/Music

Simple mixer control
'PCM',0

  Capabilities:
volume

  Playback channels: Front Left - Front
Right

  Capture channels: Front Left - Front
Right

  Limits: 0 -
255

  Front Left: 204 [80%]
[-25.50dB]

  Front Right: 204 [80%]
[-25.50dB]

Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
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Re: [Om2009] calendar?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/9 Jeremy McNaughton :
> Since getting my phone back from being buzz-fixed (thanks SDG!) I've
> been using Om2009-unstable as my daily phone with no problems.
>
> Now that I'm using my phone more regularly, I started looking around
> for a calendar.
>
> Unfortunately I can't seem to find a calendar in the repositories, or
> on opkg.org.  All I can find is knjMokoCalendar, which looks good but
> I'd rather keep Google out of the loop.
>
> Are there Om2009-compatible packages for GPE-Calendar or Pimlico?
> It's possible I missed them, or I just don't know where to look.
>
> What are other people using for a calendar?

i think dates (aka pimlico) is in the om2009 feed

it might be called openmoko-dates2 or something.

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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[c_c]

Hi,
  Here's the latest version. Changes :-

 * better (and more stable) music scan routine
 * support for mp3/ogg tags
 * search by artists
 * other minor fixes
 * 1 regression - the duration slider is jumpy - will sort that out in the
next release

  To get the tags - please set your root music directory under songs. That
will rescan the
music and read tags into the database.

  I have updated the svn too. This ipk will work with the -02 version of
e-libs. Let me know
if other versions are required.

  Also - please post feedback.

 I have not yet added the paroli like jump icon. Will do that soon.


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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[c_c]

Hi,
  Ok. Here's the latest version 0.55. Please check if this works better.
Thanks


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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/9 Marcel :
> What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up on
> opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your software when you
> release them.

it does? as far as i can see, opkg doesn't work at all. when i do an
opkg upgrade, no new versions are downloaded. the only was to get them
is manually.

yes, i've got the feed on my fr, there's a relevant conf file in /etc/opkg

are you saying it works on your phone?

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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[c_c]

Hi,

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but where do I get the new IPK? The one on Opkg.org looks the same.
> 

  Still making it. Will post on this list in 5 min. :-)
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

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Sorry, but where do I get the new IPK? The one on Opkg.org looks the same.
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[jeremy jozwik]

dont forget svn.2!

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM, c_c wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  I'm back - just taking a litle while to settle :-) I'm running intone on
> shr-unstable
> and intone works fine here.
>
>  Can you run it in the terminal and see if it prints any errors?
>
>  i'm releasing an ipk shortly which adds mp3/ogg tag support and searching
> by artists.
> Let me know if it still has issues.
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[c_c]

Hi,
  I'm back - just taking a litle while to settle :-) I'm running intone on
shr-unstable
and intone works fine here.

  Can you run it in the terminal and see if it prints any errors?

  i'm releasing an ipk shortly which adds mp3/ogg tag support and searching
by artists.
Let me know if it still has issues.

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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[W.Kenworthy]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 15:05 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
> > its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
> > after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
> > pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
> > switched to gpe-calendar
> >
> I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise for 
> me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it 
> messed 
> up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to 
> both 
> schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
> 

Immediately after booting, restart atd and everything works fine.

"/etc/init.d/atd restart"

Seems it starts too early in the boot process.

BillK




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Re: [Om2009] calendar?

[Bernd Prünster]

Jeremy McNaughton schrieb:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Since getting my phone back from being buzz-fixed (thanks SDG!) I've
> been using Om2009-unstable as my daily phone with no problems.
>
> Now that I'm using my phone more regularly, I started looking around
> for a calendar.
>
> Unfortunately I can't seem to find a calendar in the repositories, or
> on opkg.org.  All I can find is knjMokoCalendar, which looks good but
> I'd rather keep Google out of the loop.
>
> Are there Om2009-compatible packages for GPE-Calendar or Pimlico?
> It's possible I missed them, or I just don't know where to look.
>
> What are other people using for a calendar?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
>   
SHR feed is worth a try since om2009 and shr are fso ms5.5 based...

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[Om2009] calendar?

[Jeremy McNaughton]

Hi everyone,

Since getting my phone back from being buzz-fixed (thanks SDG!) I've
been using Om2009-unstable as my daily phone with no problems.

Now that I'm using my phone more regularly, I started looking around
for a calendar.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find a calendar in the repositories, or
on opkg.org.  All I can find is knjMokoCalendar, which looks good but
I'd rather keep Google out of the loop.

Are there Om2009-compatible packages for GPE-Calendar or Pimlico?
It's possible I missed them, or I just don't know where to look.

What are other people using for a calendar?


thanks,

Jeremy

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Elmdentica release 0.5.1

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

And here it is!

http://blog.1407.org/2009/07/09/elmdentica-release-051/

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:53:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to release a new version which would probably be better because:
> 
>   * supports multiple domains with different twitter api roots
>   * add/delete domains
>   * detects links (but does nothing with them, how to launch woosh
> with an url? "woosh url" in cli doesn't seem to work.
>   * has some bugs fixed
> 
> Rui
> 
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:05:33AM +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > thanks for your fixes. Following you now in svn ;-)
> > Hopefully package will be integrated in SHR unstable soon. Until then I 
> > built some  packages here:
> > 
> > http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr81-r1_armv4t.ipk
> > http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr98-r1_armv4t.ipk
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >  Christian
> > 
> > > Both of these are (hopefully, at least works for me) fixed on svn.
> > > 
> > > Rui
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:21:56PM +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
> > > > Great work!
> > > > 
> > > > I found 2 little bugs on my system:
> > > > * I get a SEGFAULT when no gconf account config is available, thus had 
> > > > to create it first before being able to rund elmdentica
> > > > * Icons (twitter) were not stored unless I created 
> > > > /home/root/.elmdentica/cache/icons/ manually
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >  Christian
> > > > 
> > > > > http://blog.1407.org/2009/07/03/elmdentica-release-050/
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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

And googlecode_upload works for google (although I hacked my copy to use the
password... it should just fetch it from the local subversion data, anyway.

My local script looks like:

$ cat upload.sh 
VERSION=$1
RELEASE=$2
PROJECT=yourProjectNameGoesHere

ACCOUNT="your google account goes here"

function upload() {
~/bin/googlecode_upload.py -s "$1" -p $PROJECT -u $ACCOUNT $2
}

cd /tmp
if test -f $PROJECT-$VERSION.tar.gz ; then
upload "Source of $VERSION" $PROJECT-$VERSION.tar.gz
gpg --yes -b -a elmdentica-$VERSION.tar.gz
upload "Digital signature of source of $VERSION" 
$PROJECT-$VERSION.tar.gz.asc
else
echo source not found
fi

echo ${PROJECT}_$VERSION-${RELEASE}_armv4t.ipk
if test -f ${PROJECT}_$VERSION-${RELEASE}_armv4t.ipk ; then
upload "Om2009 Package of $VERSION" 
${PROJECT}_$VERSION-${RELEASE}_armv4t.ipk
gpg --yes -b -a ${PROJECT}_$VERSION-${RELEASE}_armv4t.ipk
upload "Digital signature of package of $VERSION" 
${PROJECT}_$VERSION-${RELEASE}_armv4t.ipk.asc
else
echo package not found
fi


On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:28:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> You mean on opkg.org, right? Going to take a look at it... Seems like I 
> need to get into HTTP from what I see in googlecode_upload.py *g*
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:22:12 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> > Can you write something that would automate the process of uploading
> > info about a new package? That would be awesome.
> >
> > I'm trying to use
> > http://pyglet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/upload/googlecode_upload.p
> >y in order to automate releasing software into google code.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:12:58AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > > May I help you somehow? :)
> > >
> > > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:05:15 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> > > > I've been trying to do just that, but it means lots of things to do
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:55:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > > > > What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> > > > > Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up
> > > > > on opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your
> > > > > software when you release them.
> > > > > This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately
> > > > > from gcode or somewhere else and we have to check manually for
> > > > > updates (which at least I don't have time and motivation to do).
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Marcel
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neote 0.2.0 was released.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Changes:
> > > > > >  * Added "Search" through notes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Package:
> > > > > > http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
> > >
> > > 
> =
> > >
> > > > >==
> > > > >
> > > > > >=
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neote is a note taking application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> > > > > > It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing
> > > > > > data. Notes can be organized using custom categories that you
> > > > > > can add, rename and delete at any time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should run on any system with a revision of
> > > > > > python-elementary equal or greater to 40756.
> > > > > > I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
> > > > >
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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Marcel]

You mean on opkg.org, right? Going to take a look at it... Seems like I 
need to get into HTTP from what I see in googlecode_upload.py *g*

Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:22:12 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> Can you write something that would automate the process of uploading
> info about a new package? That would be awesome.
>
> I'm trying to use
> http://pyglet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/upload/googlecode_upload.p
>y in order to automate releasing software into google code.
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:12:58AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > May I help you somehow? :)
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:05:15 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> > > I've been trying to do just that, but it means lots of things to do
> > > :)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:55:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > > > What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> > > > Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up
> > > > on opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your
> > > > software when you release them.
> > > > This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately
> > > > from gcode or somewhere else and we have to check manually for
> > > > updates (which at least I don't have time and motivation to do).
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marcel
> > > >
> > > > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Neote 0.2.0 was released.
> > > > >
> > > > > Changes:
> > > > >  * Added "Search" through notes
> > > > >
> > > > > Package:
> > > > > http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
> >
> > 
=
> >
> > > >==
> > > >
> > > > >=
> > > > >
> > > > > Neote is a note taking application.
> > > > >
> > > > > Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> > > > > It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing
> > > > > data. Notes can be organized using custom categories that you
> > > > > can add, rename and delete at any time.
> > > > >
> > > > > It should run on any system with a revision of
> > > > > python-elementary equal or greater to 40756.
> > > > > I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
> > > > >
> > > > > Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
> > > >
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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Can you write something that would automate the process of uploading info
about a new package? That would be awesome.

I'm trying to use 
http://pyglet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/upload/googlecode_upload.py
in order to automate releasing software into google code.


On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:12:58AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> May I help you somehow? :)
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:05:15 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> > I've been trying to do just that, but it means lots of things to do :)
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:55:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > > What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> > > Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up on
> > > opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your software
> > > when you release them.
> > > This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately from
> > > gcode or somewhere else and we have to check manually for updates
> > > (which at least I don't have time and motivation to do).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Neote 0.2.0 was released.
> > > >
> > > > Changes:
> > > >  * Added "Search" through notes
> > > >
> > > > Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
> > >
> > > 
> =
> > >==
> > >
> > > >=
> > > >
> > > > Neote is a note taking application.
> > > >
> > > > Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> > > > It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
> > > > Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add,
> > > > rename and delete at any time.
> > > >
> > > > It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary
> > > > equal or greater to 40756.
> > > > I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
> > > >
> > > > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
> > > >
> > > > Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
> > >
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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Marcel]

May I help you somehow? :)

Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 01:05:15 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> I've been trying to do just that, but it means lots of things to do :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:55:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> > What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> > Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up on
> > opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your software
> > when you release them.
> > This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately from
> > gcode or somewhere else and we have to check manually for updates
> > (which at least I don't have time and motivation to do).
> >
> > --
> > Marcel
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Neote 0.2.0 was released.
> > >
> > > Changes:
> > >  * Added "Search" through notes
> > >
> > > Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
> >
> > 
=
> >==
> >
> > >=
> > >
> > > Neote is a note taking application.
> > >
> > > Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> > > It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
> > > Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add,
> > > rename and delete at any time.
> > >
> > > It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary
> > > equal or greater to 40756.
> > > I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
> > >
> > > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
> > >
> > > Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
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Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

I've been trying to do just that, but it means lots of things to do :)

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:55:48AM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
> Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up on 
> opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your software when you 
> release them.
> This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately from gcode 
> or somewhere else and we have to check manually for updates (which at 
> least I don't have time and motivation to do).
> 
> --
> Marcel
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Neote 0.2.0 was released.
> >
> > Changes:
> >  * Added "Search" through notes
> >
> > Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
> >
> > 
> ===
> >=
> >
> > Neote is a note taking application.
> >
> > Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> > It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
> > Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename
> > and delete at any time.
> >
> > It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal
> > or greater to 40756.
> > I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
> >
> > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
> >
> > Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
> 
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Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released)

[Marcel]

What comes to my mind seeing the google code link there:
Please, everyone who writes code out there: Put your packages up on 
opkg.org so that people like me get new versions of your software when you 
release them.
This way here each and every package gets downloaded separately from gcode 
or somewhere else and we have to check manually for updates (which at 
least I don't have time and motivation to do).

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Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 00:44:35 schrieb Valery Febvre:
> Hello,
>
> Neote 0.2.0 was released.
>
> Changes:
>  * Added "Search" through notes
>
> Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
>
> 
===
>=
>
> Neote is a note taking application.
>
> Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
> Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename
> and delete at any time.
>
> It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal
> or greater to 40756.
> I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
>
> Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
>
> Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots


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Re: Elmdentica release 0.5.0

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Hi,

I'm about to release a new version which would probably be better because:

* supports multiple domains with different twitter api roots
* add/delete domains
* detects links (but does nothing with them, how to launch woosh
  with an url? "woosh url" in cli doesn't seem to work.
* has some bugs fixed

Rui

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:05:33AM +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your fixes. Following you now in svn ;-)
> Hopefully package will be integrated in SHR unstable soon. Until then I built 
> some  packages here:
> 
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr81-r1_armv4t.ipk
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr98-r1_armv4t.ipk
> 
> Cheers,
>  Christian
> 
> > Both of these are (hopefully, at least works for me) fixed on svn.
> > 
> > Rui
> > 
> > On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:21:56PM +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
> > > Great work!
> > > 
> > > I found 2 little bugs on my system:
> > > * I get a SEGFAULT when no gconf account config is available, thus had to 
> > > create it first before being able to rund elmdentica
> > > * Icons (twitter) were not stored unless I created 
> > > /home/root/.elmdentica/cache/icons/ manually
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > >  Christian
> > > 
> > > > http://blog.1407.org/2009/07/03/elmdentica-release-050/
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Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released

[jeremy jozwik]

just popped this in last night, version 0.1 that is. have to say it
works rather smooth. patiently awaiting drawn notes implementation

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Valery Febvre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Neote 0.2.0 was released.
>
> Changes:
> * Added "Search" through notes
>
> Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk
>
> 
>
> Neote is a note taking application.
>
> Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
> It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
> Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename
> and delete at any time.
>
> It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal
> or greater to 40756.
> I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.
>
> Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/
>
> Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
>
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[SHR-unstable] Neote 0.2.0 released

[Valery Febvre]

Hello,

Neote 0.2.0 was released.

Changes:
 * Added "Search" through notes

Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.2.0-r0_all.ipk



Neote is a note taking application.

Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly.
It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data.
Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename
and delete at any time.

It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal
or greater to 40756.
I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate.

Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/

Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots

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Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?

[Nicola Mfb]

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Philippe Lhardy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a way to fix my Neo FreeRunner that felt badly on the floor.
> AUX button was not soldered anymore and i definitely broke the button
> by trying to glue it.

This just happened to me too, I'm looking for repairing and eventually
substituting with a stronger button :)
I'm from the southern of Italy, near Napoli.

Regards

Nicola

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Re: Elmdentica release 0.5.0

[Christian Rüb]

Hi,

thanks for your fixes. Following you now in svn ;-)
Hopefully package will be integrated in SHR unstable soon. Until then I built 
some  packages here:

http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr81-r1_armv4t.ipk
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/elmdentica_0.5.0+svnr98-r1_armv4t.ipk

Cheers,
 Christian

> Both of these are (hopefully, at least works for me) fixed on svn.
> 
> Rui
> 
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:21:56PM +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
> > Great work!
> > 
> > I found 2 little bugs on my system:
> > * I get a SEGFAULT when no gconf account config is available, thus had to 
> > create it first before being able to rund elmdentica
> > * Icons (twitter) were not stored unless I created 
> > /home/root/.elmdentica/cache/icons/ manually
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >  Christian
> > 
> > > http://blog.1407.org/2009/07/03/elmdentica-release-050/
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travel-diary a simple GPS application

[Christian Rüb]

Hi,

a while ago Sven send us his scripts to store places and some info and send all 
this to a server which then creates a kml file. [0]

I made a litte GUI for this (actually it is more a rewrite ;-)) that you can 
find here:
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk

It also contains a sample script to send you data to your web server via curl. 
To really use this you need to set up the corresponding CGIs on your server to 
receive your diary file and and another one to make the kml download for you 
visitors.
You can find examples (they are a point to start - nothing more) in the doc 
package [2] or view/download them from the git repo [3].

For distribution integration, here is my bb recipe [4]

[0] http://n2.nabble.com/Stress-test-of-my-Freerunner-tp3038658p3045050.html
[1] 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
[2] 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary-doc_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
[3] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary
[4] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob_plain;f=travel-diary/travel-diary_git.bb;hb=HEAD

Feedback and questions welcome.

Cheers,
 Christian

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[TangoGPS] POI coordinates as WGS84 deg and min

[Marcel]

Hello,

I'm using TGPS for geocaching. The coordinates always get listed as f.e.
N 55° 33.218 E 008° 08.493 (WGS84 degrees and minutes)
If I have to "build" the coordinates for the cache's second "stage" by 
hand, I only get these coordinates as reference, but TGPS needs WGS84 
Decimal Degrees as POI coordinates.
As a feature wish: Could someone please make TGPS understand degrees and 
minutes? :)

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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[jeremy jozwik]

right. sorry about that :/   best i can say right now is restarting
the service from the shr-settings app

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 03:14:20 pm jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> what distro? ive noticed after a suspend on shr-unstable atd gets
>> messy. so i go into shr-settings and restart the atd deamon and all is
>> well.
>>
>
> I'm using shr-unstable, that is why I have [SHR-unstable] in the subject, both
> ffalrams and ata deamon installed form the shr feeds.
>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> >> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
>> >> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
>> >> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
>> >> switched to gpe-calendar
>> >
>> > I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise
>> > for me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think
>> > it messed up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for
>> > ffalarms to both schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
>> >
>> > To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
>> > 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an
>> > error that the ata deamon not working
>> > 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
>> > ffalrams
>> >
>> > To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
>> > should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading
>> > the alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause
>> > all I know is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both
>> > use the ata deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the
>> > latest version and the problem still exists.
>> >
>> > Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my
>> > Google calendar.
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[Adam Jimerson]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 03:14:20 pm jeremy jozwik wrote:
> what distro? ive noticed after a suspend on shr-unstable atd gets
> messy. so i go into shr-settings and restart the atd deamon and all is
> well.
>

I'm using shr-unstable, that is why I have [SHR-unstable] in the subject, both 
ffalrams and ata deamon installed form the shr feeds.

> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
> >> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
> >> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
> >> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
> >> switched to gpe-calendar
> >
> > I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise
> > for me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think
> > it messed up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for
> > ffalarms to both schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
> >
> > To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
> > 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an
> > error that the ata deamon not working
> > 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
> > ffalrams
> >
> > To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
> > should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading
> > the alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause
> > all I know is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both
> > use the ata deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the
> > latest version and the problem still exists.
> >
> > Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my
> > Google calendar.
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[Adam Jimerson]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 03:11:49 pm Jeff Sadowski wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
> >> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
> >> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
> >> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
> >> switched to gpe-calendar
>
> Is this only an issue with PST8PDT?
> could it be a zone file issue?
>
> If you try a different timezone does it work correctly?

No I am in EST and have this issue so may not be a zone issue

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[Om2009] No suspend after ffalarms alarm while suspended

[Marcel]

G'evening,

I'm not sure where this problem comes from, so I tell you about it before 
filing a bug somewhere. Steps to reproduce:
0. Boot the Neo "freshly"
1. Set an alarm in ffalarms
2. suspend the Neo
3. wait for the alarm to "ring" (whatever sound you have set :p)
4. Neo's awake now. Try to suspend.

Expected: Should suspend normally
Observed: Doesn't suspend, frameworkd.log: http://pastebin.ca/1488707

Workaround: Restart frameworkd.
Worked partially (once). Now I've got it so far not to suspend at all 
anymore but just show tty1 for some time and then return to illume as if 
nothing happened. frameworkd.log of such a process: 
http://pastebin.ca/1488840

I hope this gets someone any further... I'm not too enlightened what exact 
conditions it takes to break suspend yet.

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Re: Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> thats a might big log youve got there...

And I believe it has the required background information to play
around with the settings and try to solve this problem.. Let us know
if someone finds out something new..


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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[The Digital Pioneer]

Nope. :\
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Re: Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[jeremy jozwik]

thats a might big log youve got there...

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> om2009t5 and the same issue here.
>
> I had a discussion about it at #openmoko(-cdevel), here's the log
>
>
> Jun 17 23:51:10  DocScrutinizer: The echo doesn't to seem to
> be stable: during one call it sometimes echoes sometimes doesn't (when
> I'm quiet and the other end talks). To me it sounds like the noise
> gate doesn't work fully but the background noise (be it the voice of
> the other person or background noise like bus, computer fan, whatever)
> is amplified a lot..
> Jun 17 23:52:23  hmmm, so maybe reducing control.5 a
> few units may help a lot then
> Jun 17 23:52:56  also I'm not quite sure OM2009
> handles AT%N correctly
> Jun 17 23:53:49  the echo reduction? Hmm.. I really hope it
> doesn't and when it's fixed things get easier.. I'll ask nytowl
> later..
> Jun 17 23:53:51  and if OM2009 has borked statefiles,
> everything may happen, even feedback inside mixer
> Jun 17 23:54:15  DocScrutinizer: I'm using the -new (-based
> I've tried to fix further a bit myself)
> Jun 17 23:55:51  aah, ok. Then just reduce control.5
> until you get decent sensitivity for far end hearing you loud but
> without ambient noise penetrating noisegate
> Jun 17 23:55:53  DocScrutinizer: Do you think the -new
> statefile should work for all FR's or are there small differencies in
> the component values that cause the need for a little tuning for each
> unit? (well, depends on the operator etc... Hmm.. )
> Jun 17 23:56:42  rhkfin: for sure you need to adjust
> according to your particular buzzfix situation
> Jun 17 23:56:59  'mono playback volume' is the volume of
> signal from my microphone sent to calypso?
> Jun 17 23:57:14  *sigh* mompl
> Jun 17 23:57:27  numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Mono Playback 
> Volume'
> Jun 17 23:57:32  yes
> Jun 17 23:59:32  during call open amixer, adjust "mono
> pl.b. vol", then do a `alsactl store .../gsmhandset.state`
> Jun 17 23:59:45  *then* finish call
> Jun 18 00:00:23  probably you prefer to do this from a
> decent PC via ssh
> Jun 18 00:00:33  yes, understand and can do that, just want to
> understand the behaviour..
> Jun 18 00:01:14  mono playb. vol is the signal that I hear
> from my speaker, isn't it?
> Jun 18 00:01:39  alternatively write a script you call
> in FR terminal that does the amixer invocation and after amixwer
> returns does the alsactl store thingie automatically
> Jun 18 00:01:54  reducing it reduces the changes of the mic
> picking up the signal - but also at the same time makes it harder for
> me to hear the other end?
> Jun 18 00:02:10  rhkfin: nope, control.5 is 
> mixer-to-gsmMicInput
> Jun 18 00:02:19  oh, ok..
> Jun 18 00:02:46  it's the sensitivity of your handsets
> microphone
> Jun 18 00:03:02  ok, understand. Now it makes sense.
> Jun 18 00:03:17  How can I play with the gate level?
> Jun 18 00:03:46  see wiki for description of AT%N
> valid numeric arguments
> Jun 18 00:04:02  so the gate is in calypso, not alsa. ok
> Jun 18 00:04:03  sorry no pointer ATM, you have to search for 
> it
> Jun 18 00:04:15  np
> Jun 18 00:04:20  yup, gate and echo cancellation in modem
> Jun 18 00:04:36  ok, got it..
> Jun 18 00:04:54  Thanks for this, let's see if i'd be able to
> improve it a bit again..
> Jun 18 00:05:13  mixer is a simple preamp for mic from
> modems POV
> Jun 18 00:06:13  This is the one, I guess:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands#Echo_Suppression_and_Noise_Reduction
> Jun 18 00:06:44  yup, exactly
> Jun 18 00:06:57  what's short & long AEC?
> Jun 18 00:07:08  I think it's n some of FSOs config-files
> Jun 18 00:08:04  I guess it'S about signal delay from
> output to input, I.E. how long the sound needs thru the air from
> speaker to mic
> Jun 18 00:08:31  not sure about that though, mere guess
> Jun 18 00:08:37  ok..
> Jun 18 00:09:23  might as well be sth about how long
> it takes the AEC to recalibrate from silence to voice and back
> Jun 18 00:11:04  and noise cancellation is the gate?
> Jun 18 00:11:07  rhkfin: check mailing lists, there
> has to be a better more comprehensive explanation of AT%N
> Jun 18 00:11:14  yup,
> Jun 18 00:11:31  ok, thanks for the pointerst!
> Jun 18 00:11:41  the dB value is probably the level
> where it kicks in
> Jun 18 00:11:51  right
> Jun 18 00:12:41  be aware there's lots of confusion
> about exact semantics of AT%N
> Jun 18 00:13:28  ok.. I'll try to find my way through the
> nasty poisonous AT-spikes shot at me from the Fortress of Calypso..
> Jun 18 00:13:50  I even seen statements these commands
> are accumulative, like "AT%N293; AT%N105"
> Jun 18 00:15:22  long AEC -12dB and nose reducion is active..
> Jun 18 00:19:27  mompl, started search across *all* my OM-mail
> Jun 18 00:19:45  may take a few minutes (no quadcore here ;-)
> Jun 18 00:24:13  i'd have to call the CIA to do that ...
> Jun 18 00:25:41  sheeesh, 80.000 msgs searched, no
> success to find the code sniplet I know I've seen long

Re: Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[Risto H. Kurppa]

om2009t5 and the same issue here.

I had a discussion about it at #openmoko(-cdevel), here's the log


Jun 17 23:51:10  DocScrutinizer: The echo doesn't to seem to
be stable: during one call it sometimes echoes sometimes doesn't (when
I'm quiet and the other end talks). To me it sounds like the noise
gate doesn't work fully but the background noise (be it the voice of
the other person or background noise like bus, computer fan, whatever)
is amplified a lot..
Jun 17 23:52:23  hmmm, so maybe reducing control.5 a
few units may help a lot then
Jun 17 23:52:56  also I'm not quite sure OM2009
handles AT%N correctly
Jun 17 23:53:49  the echo reduction? Hmm.. I really hope it
doesn't and when it's fixed things get easier.. I'll ask nytowl
later..
Jun 17 23:53:51  and if OM2009 has borked statefiles,
everything may happen, even feedback inside mixer
Jun 17 23:54:15  DocScrutinizer: I'm using the -new (-based
I've tried to fix further a bit myself)
Jun 17 23:55:51  aah, ok. Then just reduce control.5
until you get decent sensitivity for far end hearing you loud but
without ambient noise penetrating noisegate
Jun 17 23:55:53  DocScrutinizer: Do you think the -new
statefile should work for all FR's or are there small differencies in
the component values that cause the need for a little tuning for each
unit? (well, depends on the operator etc... Hmm.. )
Jun 17 23:56:42  rhkfin: for sure you need to adjust
according to your particular buzzfix situation
Jun 17 23:56:59  'mono playback volume' is the volume of
signal from my microphone sent to calypso?
Jun 17 23:57:14  *sigh* mompl
Jun 17 23:57:27  numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Mono Playback Volume'
Jun 17 23:57:32  yes
Jun 17 23:59:32  during call open amixer, adjust "mono
pl.b. vol", then do a `alsactl store .../gsmhandset.state`
Jun 17 23:59:45  *then* finish call
Jun 18 00:00:23  probably you prefer to do this from a
decent PC via ssh
Jun 18 00:00:33  yes, understand and can do that, just want to
understand the behaviour..
Jun 18 00:01:14  mono playb. vol is the signal that I hear
from my speaker, isn't it?
Jun 18 00:01:39  alternatively write a script you call
in FR terminal that does the amixer invocation and after amixwer
returns does the alsactl store thingie automatically
Jun 18 00:01:54  reducing it reduces the changes of the mic
picking up the signal - but also at the same time makes it harder for
me to hear the other end?
Jun 18 00:02:10  rhkfin: nope, control.5 is mixer-to-gsmMicInput
Jun 18 00:02:19  oh, ok..
Jun 18 00:02:46  it's the sensitivity of your handsets
microphone
Jun 18 00:03:02  ok, understand. Now it makes sense.
Jun 18 00:03:17  How can I play with the gate level?
Jun 18 00:03:46  see wiki for description of AT%N
valid numeric arguments
Jun 18 00:04:02  so the gate is in calypso, not alsa. ok
Jun 18 00:04:03  sorry no pointer ATM, you have to search for it
Jun 18 00:04:15  np
Jun 18 00:04:20  yup, gate and echo cancellation in modem
Jun 18 00:04:36  ok, got it..
Jun 18 00:04:54  Thanks for this, let's see if i'd be able to
improve it a bit again..
Jun 18 00:05:13  mixer is a simple preamp for mic from
modems POV
Jun 18 00:06:13  This is the one, I guess:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands#Echo_Suppression_and_Noise_Reduction
Jun 18 00:06:44  yup, exactly
Jun 18 00:06:57  what's short & long AEC?
Jun 18 00:07:08  I think it's n some of FSOs config-files
Jun 18 00:08:04  I guess it'S about signal delay from
output to input, I.E. how long the sound needs thru the air from
speaker to mic
Jun 18 00:08:31  not sure about that though, mere guess
Jun 18 00:08:37  ok..
Jun 18 00:09:23  might as well be sth about how long
it takes the AEC to recalibrate from silence to voice and back
Jun 18 00:11:04  and noise cancellation is the gate?
Jun 18 00:11:07  rhkfin: check mailing lists, there
has to be a better more comprehensive explanation of AT%N
Jun 18 00:11:14  yup,
Jun 18 00:11:31  ok, thanks for the pointerst!
Jun 18 00:11:41  the dB value is probably the level
where it kicks in
Jun 18 00:11:51  right
Jun 18 00:12:41  be aware there's lots of confusion
about exact semantics of AT%N
Jun 18 00:13:28  ok.. I'll try to find my way through the
nasty poisonous AT-spikes shot at me from the Fortress of Calypso..
Jun 18 00:13:50  I even seen statements these commands
are accumulative, like "AT%N293; AT%N105"
Jun 18 00:15:22  long AEC -12dB and nose reducion is active..
Jun 18 00:19:27  mompl, started search across *all* my OM-mail
Jun 18 00:19:45  may take a few minutes (no quadcore here ;-)
Jun 18 00:24:13  i'd have to call the CIA to do that ...
Jun 18 00:25:41  sheeesh, 80.000 msgs searched, no
success to find the code sniplet I know I've seen long ago :-/
Jun 18 00:25:57  start agin with more fuzzy searchstring
Jun 18 00:26:19  start agin' - yeah, true ;-)
Jun 18 00:29:54  kmail search eats swap like hell
Jun 18 00:32:39  h my
Jun 18 00:33:16 * DocScrutinizer considers to install a beowulf with
all the FR around here ;-)
Jun 18 00:34:18 

Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann]

Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 20:32:22 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
> Resurrecting because it's still not fixed... :(
>
> The Digital Pioneer  wrote:
> > Ugh, this isn't over yet. It's still locking up as soon as it starts
> > playing a song. Plays to the end of the track (because mplayer is a
> > separate process) but doesn't continue after that. Intone has to be
> > killed, but I noticed that it's eating up 10-20% CPU as long as it's
> > running, causing my music to cut and skip.
I'm running into problems after suspend/resume. It hangs if trying to play 
then. But it is not intone specific. All sound is broken after that.

Still have to investigate the reason... Does it work for you freshly booted?
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[jeremy jozwik]

happens... on jakarta too. as well as hong kong. somehow dates just
does not get the time/ day properly after so many hours.

ive brought this up on several occasions.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> nope, works on jakarta too.
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Sadowski wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
 its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
 after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
 pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
 switched to gpe-calendar

>>
>> Is this only an issue with PST8PDT?
>> could it be a zone file issue?
>>
>> If you try a different timezone does it work correctly?
>>
>>
>>> I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise 
>>> for
>>> me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it 
>>> messed
>>> up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to 
>>> both
>>> schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
>>>
>>> To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
>>> 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an 
>>> error
>>> that the ata deamon not working
>>> 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
>>> ffalrams
>>>
>>> To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
>>> should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading the
>>> alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause all I 
>>> know
>>> is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both use the ata
>>> deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the latest version and
>>> the problem still exists.
>>>
>>> Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my Google
>>> calendar.
>>> --
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>>> than only freedom can make security more secure."  Karl Popper
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[jeremy jozwik]

nope, works on jakarta too.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Sadowski wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
>> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
>>> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
>>> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
>>> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
>>> switched to gpe-calendar
>>>
>
> Is this only an issue with PST8PDT?
> could it be a zone file issue?
>
> If you try a different timezone does it work correctly?
>
>
>> I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise for
>> me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it 
>> messed
>> up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to 
>> both
>> schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
>>
>> To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
>> 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an 
>> error
>> that the ata deamon not working
>> 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
>> ffalrams
>>
>> To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
>> should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading the
>> alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause all I 
>> know
>> is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both use the ata
>> deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the latest version and
>> the problem still exists.
>>
>> Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my Google
>> calendar.
>> --
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>> than only freedom can make security more secure."  Karl Popper
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[jeremy jozwik]

what distro? ive noticed after a suspend on shr-unstable atd gets
messy. so i go into shr-settings and restart the atd deamon and all is
well.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
>> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
>> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
>> switched to gpe-calendar
>>
> I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise for
> me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it messed
> up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to both
> schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
>
> To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
> 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an error
> that the ata deamon not working
> 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
> ffalrams
>
> To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
> should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading the
> alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause all I know
> is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both use the ata
> deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the latest version and
> the problem still exists.
>
> Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my Google
> calendar.
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> than only freedom can make security more secure."  Karl Popper
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Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[Jeff Sadowski]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
>> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
>> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
>> switched to gpe-calendar
>>

Is this only an issue with PST8PDT?
could it be a zone file issue?

If you try a different timezone does it work correctly?


> I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise for
> me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it messed
> up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to both
> schedule and alarm and to have it go off:
>
> To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
> 1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an error
> that the ata deamon not working
> 2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in
> ffalrams
>
> To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm
> should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading the
> alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause all I know
> is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both use the ata
> deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the latest version and
> the problem still exists.
>
> Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my Google
> calendar.
> --
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> than only freedom can make security more secure."  Karl Popper
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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[Radek Polak]

Alexander Syring wrote:

> Hi Radek
> 
> Could you poste a 'dpkg --get-selections ' output from freerunner? 
> 
> And what about to install busybox on rootfs?

Hi Alexander,
yes busybox could save some space. This is good idea. Output is
attachment.

Thanks

Radek
adduser install
alsa-utils  install
apt install
base-files  install
base-passwd install
bashinstall
bluez-utils install
bsdutilsinstall
ca-certificates install
coreutils   install
cpp install
cpp-4.3 install
dbusinstall
debconf install
debconf-i18ninstall
debian-archive-keyring  install
debianutils install
defoma  install
diffinstall
dosfstools  install
dpkginstall
e2fslibsinstall
e2fsprogs   install
fbset   install
fileinstall
findutils   install
fontconfig  install
fontconfig-config   install
gcc-4.3-baseinstall
gconf2-common   install
gnupg   install
gpgvinstall
gpsdinstall
grepinstall
gzipinstall
hostnameinstall
ifupdowninstall
initscripts install
iputils-pinginstall
klogd   install
ladcca2 install
libacl1 install
libasound2  install
libatk1.0-0 install
libattr1install
libblkid1   install
libbluetooth2   install
libbz2-1.0  install
libc6   install
libcairo2   install
libcomerr2  install
libcups2install
libcurl3-gnutls install
libdatrie0  install
libdb4.5install
libdb4.6install
libdbus-1-3 install
libdirectfb-1.0-0   install
libdrm2 install
libedit2install
libexpat1   install
libflac8install
libfluidsynth1  install
libfontconfig1  install
libfontenc1 install
libfreetype6install
libfs6  install
libgcc1 install
libgconf2-4 install
libgcrypt11 install
libgdbm3install
libgl1-mesa-glx install
libglib2.0-0install
libgmp3c2   install
libgnutls26 install
libgpg-error0   install
libgpm2 install
libgps17install
libgtk2.0-0 install
libgtk2.0-commoninstall
libhal1 install
libice6 install
libidl0 install
libidn11install
libiw29   

Re: [SHR-unstable] The date in Dates is incorrect

[Adam Jimerson]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 01:50:04 am jeremy jozwik wrote:
> its no minor bug. in the PST8PDT timezone the day would get switched
> after 6 pm. which is completely unhelpful. i put an email on the
> pimlico mailing list and have no response in over 2 months. have since
> switched to gpe-calendar
>
I have tried gpe-calendar have found a major issue with it usability wise for 
me it is slow and unresponsive, also between it and ffalrams I think it messed 
up the ata deamon so now I have to do a weird work around for ffalarms to both 
schedule and alarm and to have it go off:

To schedule an alarm I have to do the following:
1. select the remove alarm option and do the 4 digit thing else I got an error 
that the ata deamon not working
2. schedule the alarm then restart the phone else it doesn't show up in 
ffalrams

To get the alarm to sound I have to wait a couple minutes after the alarm 
should have gone off then restart my phone then as illume starts loading the 
alram will sound.  I have been unable to track down the exact cause all I know 
is it started doing this after installing gpe-calendar, both use the ata 
deamon IIRC.  Sense then I have upgraded ffalrams to the latest version and 
the problem still exists.

Another reason why I use Dates is because I use PISI to sync it to my Google 
calendar.
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than only freedom can make security more secure."  Karl Popper


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RE: Question about bluetooth capability

[Staley, Daniel L]

I havent tried it, so I could be wrongbut as far as I know since it is 
operating on the bluez stack it should be able to connect to up to 7 devices at 
once.
Like I said, I havent tried any more than one thoughif I get a chance later 
I'll try out connecting to a couple of wiimotes and see what happens.

-Dan Staley

From: Alton Patrick [hapatr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:54 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Question about bluetooth capability

I just found out about the Neo Freerunner, and we are considering
using it in a project where I work.  I'm wondering if anyone can tell
me how many separate bluetooth devices it can communicate with at
once.  For the application we're working on, it would need to handle
at least 2 bluetooth INS units at the same time.

Thanks for your help.
-Alton

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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 03:13:44AM -0700, mqy wrote:
> 2009/7/5 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen (via Nabble)
> :
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 05:29:22PM -0700, mqy wrote:
> >
> >> Please feel free to comment or add new feature requests here.
> >
> >    Two comments on the package control file:
> > 1) The dependency on python2.6 is missing.
> > 2) The description is still the default one.

> Let me explain my build environment.
> HOST env: debian chroot on top of ubuntu
> 
> 1. build with openmoko unstable toolchian (from openmoko download site)
> om-conf omgps && make clean && make && om-make-ipkg omgps
> With this approach, take care to run om-conf again once Makefile.am is 
> modified.
> 
> 2. build with bitbake (SHR), see omgps_svn.bb

   I have no idea how any of that works, but I'm guessing that somewhere you
have a file called 'control'? This is what it looks like in the package:

$ dpkg-deb -f ~/software/omgps_0.1_20090618-3_armv4t.ipk 
Package: omgps
Version: 0.1
Description: package built by openmoko toolchain
Section: openmoko/applications
Priority: optional
Maintainer: meng
Architecture: armv4t
Homepage: http://www.openmoko.org/
Depends: 
Source: omgps

> about comment #1: I have no idea how to test Python version installed
> in tool chain, so have to hard code the version as 2.6. What about try
> 2.4 or something else?

   That's not what I'm asking. Just add the libpython2.6 package name to the
Depends: line to resolve this dependency:

$ omgps
omgps: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.6.so.1.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

> about comment #2: which description? would you please clarify?

   The one that says "package built by openmoko toolchain".

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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[jeremy jozwik]

c_c is on vacation i do believe. im still waiting for a svn-0.2
version for shr-unstable 20090624

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, The Digital
Pioneer wrote:
> Resurrecting because it's still not fixed... :(
>
> The Digital Pioneer  wrote:
>>
>> Ugh, this isn't over yet. It's still locking up as soon as it starts
>> playing a song. Plays to the end of the track (because mplayer is a separate
>> process) but doesn't continue after that. Intone has to be killed, but I
>> noticed that it's eating up 10-20% CPU as long as it's running, causing my
>> music to cut and skip.
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone

[The Digital Pioneer]

Resurrecting because it's still not fixed... :(

The Digital Pioneer  wrote:

> Ugh, this isn't over yet. It's still locking up as soon as it starts
> playing a song. Plays to the end of the track (because mplayer is a separate
> process) but doesn't continue after that. Intone has to be killed, but I
> noticed that it's eating up 10-20% CPU as long as it's running, causing my
> music to cut and skip.
>



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Re: Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[jeremy jozwik]

also have this since owning the phone. i thought my issue falls into
the rustling noise, but background amplification seems more like the
proper term.

om2008.12, shr-testing, shr-unstable ive had complaints about it on all of these

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
> I have exactly the same issues with OM2009t5. Changing gsmhandstate to
> gsmhandstate.new neither helped.
>Now i am trying to adjust sound using Angus Ainslie's python script:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem (bottom of
> the page) but no satisfying results for now.
>I have also noticed on my side there is some kind of silent but
> disturbing "noise" - i can't even define it in my native language, but i
> will try. It sounds the same as Trafo stations sounds make (50Hz in EU)
> but on lower frequency and variable frequency. You can hear similar
> sound also under high voltage transmission lines - especially when it
> rains.
>This sound occurs even before a person which I am calling to, picks up
> the phone.
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Re: Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[Patryk Benderz]

I have exactly the same issues with OM2009t5. Changing gsmhandstate to
gsmhandstate.new neither helped.
Now i am trying to adjust sound using Angus Ainslie's python script:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem (bottom of
the page) but no satisfying results for now.
I have also noticed on my side there is some kind of silent but
disturbing "noise" - i can't even define it in my native language, but i
will try. It sounds the same as Trafo stations sounds make (50Hz in EU)
but on lower frequency and variable frequency. You can hear similar
sound also under high voltage transmission lines - especially when it
rains.
This sound occurs even before a person which I am calling to, picks up
the phone.

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RE: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u

[Staley, Daniel L]

Everything went great!  
I sent it off on a Wednesday afternoon, it got there on Friday, and exactly 2 
weeks later it was sitting on my doorstep waiting for me to play with it,
with an extra battery and Android installed!  I have a full body invisible 
shield on my freerunner, and it came back without any problems.

Thanks to SDG and Koolu for providing the fix!

But back on topic ;)  Does anyone know where enlightenment stores it's log 
files or messages when it segfaults?  I'd love to get Canola running on 
om2009

-Dan Staley

From: Steve " 'dillo" Okay (Roadknight Mobility Labs) [armad...@gothpunk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:23 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u

>
> From: "Staley, Daniel L" 
> Date: July 7, 2009 2:25:58 PM PDT
> To: "community@lists.openmoko.org" 
> Subject: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u
> Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion  >
>
>
> I recently got my freerunner back from SDG systems, complete with a
> buzz fix!  So I'm attempting to start using it as my daily phone.
> I really like paroli and the work that is being done with om2009,
> and have been able to get most of the applications I want running
> just fine.

Cool!
How long did the whole process take ?
I sent mine off yesterday so I'm curious about your recent experience.
Thanks,
Steve



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Background amplification and voice blur on phone call

[Shashank Bharadwaj]

Hi list,

I created a new topic cause I think this question is slightly
different from the one being discussed in the "Rustling noise on
phonecalls" thread. Well I just installed OM2009 (and updated via opkg
update && opkg upgrade) and then tested on paroli on a call. Weird
thing happened. The background sounds (like of the traffic, keyboard
strokes or somebody else far off talking) are highly amplified. But my
own voice is highly marred with noise. My voice sounds like it's being
mixed by a dj to produce a kind of recursive-echo effect!

Then I tried with the latest QtMoko Images. (QtMoko v3 based on FSO
from http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtmoko/snapbuild/20090707/
). It had the same issue too.

Then I tried wiki, [1] says:
wget 
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new
-O /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state
should help. I tried. It didn't.

Any ideas?


Footnotes:
1. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Audio_quality_during_call

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Re: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u

[Steve " 'dillo" Okay (Roadknight Mobility Labs)]

>
> From: "Staley, Daniel L" 
> Date: July 7, 2009 2:25:58 PM PDT
> To: "community@lists.openmoko.org" 
> Subject: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u
> Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
>  >
>
>
> I recently got my freerunner back from SDG systems, complete with a  
> buzz fix!  So I'm attempting to start using it as my daily phone.
> I really like paroli and the work that is being done with om2009,  
> and have been able to get most of the applications I want running  
> just fine.

Cool!
How long did the whole process take ?
I sent mine off yesterday so I'm curious about your recent experience.
Thanks,
Steve

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Re: High pitch voice when the screen is in horizontal mode

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 AM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> yes. OM2008, shr-testing, shr-unstable. just always makes the noise.
> if you angle it slightly away from your head you dont hear it : )

Well yes, it gets a bit less loud that way - it's quite 'focused' in a
way. Pressing the screen gently doesn't affect it.

r

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Question about bluetooth capability

[Alton Patrick]

I just found out about the Neo Freerunner, and we are considering
using it in a project where I work.  I'm wondering if anyone can tell
me how many separate bluetooth devices it can communicate with at
once.  For the application we're working on, it would need to handle
at least 2 bluetooth INS units at the same time.

Thanks for your help.
-Alton

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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[Alexander Syring]

Hi Radek

Could you poste a 'dpkg --get-selections ' output from freerunner? 

And what about to install busybox on rootfs?

Greetings
Alex

On 2009-07-07 Radek Polak wrote:
> HouYu Li wrote:
> > Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X??
>
> Hi HouYu,
> no it's the same binary. The difference is in rootfs. You only need to
> make Qtopia and X running at the same time (i start qpe from .xinitrc).
>
> Radek
>
>
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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[Radek Polak]

Giacomo Giotti wrote:

> Another two questions concerning QX:
> -is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but
> couldn't play without some input method so...

I will try to put some keyboard for next release.

> -it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no
> result (always "No protocol specified \n
> x2x - error: can not open display :0.0").

I get this error when trying to run applications outside Qtopia. If you
run it from Qtopia Terminal it should be ok.

Regards

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Re: A7 reports

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

Here too :)
www.tuxbrain.com

2009/7/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller :
>
>>> Also whats the best way to get a phone in the UK. truebox don't
>>> seems to
>>> have any stock yet. has anyone order a freerunner elsewhere and had
>>> it
>>> shipped to the UK?
>
> Here you can order A7 units (ships to UK, FRA, SPA, ITL, POL, DAN,
> NDL, LUX, etc.):
>
> http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
>
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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[Alexander Syring]

Hi

On 2009-07-08 giacomo "giotti" mariani wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >> I'm now trying the distro in object on SD  (with a swapfile instead of a
> >> swap partition).
> >
> > Hi Giacomo,
> > thanks for testing it
>
> It's a pleasure!
>
> >> It works very well, but I have a pair of questions:
> >> -how can I add x application to the QX menu?
> >
> > Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add
> > configuration file and GUI for it in next version.
>
> It would be great!
>
> Another two questions concerning QX:
> -is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but
> couldn't play without some input method so...
> -it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no
> result (always "No protocol specified \n
> x2x - error: can not open display :0.0").
>
> >> -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get?
> >
> > I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i
> > havent tried.
>
> I ask it because I'd like to know how much is the battery fill (as in
> the old Qt... versions).

You should install apm and you see the battery fill.
install with apt-get install apm


> >> Thank you very much for your great work!
> >
> > Nice to hear this :)
> >
> > Radek
> >
> :-)

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Re: A7 reports

[Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller]

>> Also whats the best way to get a phone in the UK. truebox don't  
>> seems to
>> have any stock yet. has anyone order a freerunner elsewhere and had  
>> it
>> shipped to the UK?

Here you can order A7 units (ships to UK, FRA, SPA, ITL, POL, DAN,  
NDL, LUX, etc.):

http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner


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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[giacomo "giotti" mariani]

>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I'm now trying the distro in object on SD  (with a swapfile instead of a
>> swap partition).
>> 
>
> Hi Giacomo,
> thanks for testing it
>
>   
It's a pleasure!

>> It works very well, but I have a pair of questions:
>> -how can I add x application to the QX menu?
>> 
>
> Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add
> configuration file and GUI for it in next version.
>
>   
It would be great!

Another two questions concerning QX:
-is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but
couldn't play without some input method so...
-it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no
result (always "No protocol specified \n
x2x - error: can not open display :0.0").
>> -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get?
>> 
>
> I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i
> havent tried.
>
>   
I ask it because I'd like to know how much is the battery fill (as in
the old Qt... versions).

>> Thank you very much for your great work!
>> 
>
> Nice to hear this :)
>
> Radek
>   
:-)

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Re: A7 reports

[Anthony Clearn]

Sam Tygier wrote:
> 
> 
> Also whats the best way to get a phone in the UK. truebox don't seems to
> have any stock yet. has anyone order a freerunner elsewhere and had it
> shipped to the UK?
> 
> 

I got one from http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html as a group purchase 
Check if there are other group purchaces
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups#Europe

BTW ask any current eurpoean group purchacers if you can join. The group
organiser (who raises the order) can then post on to you. You can easily
send the extra cost of postage to them (you will likely have to do this for
the UK group unless you can collect). 

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Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support

[Radek Polak]

giacomo "giotti" mariani wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I'm now trying the distro in object on SD  (with a swapfile instead of a
> swap partition).

Hi Giacomo,
thanks for testing it

> It works very well, but I have a pair of questions:
> -how can I add x application to the QX menu?

Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add
configuration file and GUI for it in next version.

> -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get?

I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i
havent tried.

> Thank you very much for your great work!

Nice to hear this :)

Radek


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