Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
I can add three special use cases from customers and friends:
a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a student-built
racing car ("Formula Student")
b) two Freerunners have been used in the German Historic Museum in
Berlin for a SMS noteboard to attract and entertain visitors
c) one Freerunner was shot into space (really!) - I hope I get
permission soon to post a link to photos
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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
rakshat hooja schrieb: > You also asked for happy moments so when I palyed Duke Nukeem 3D with > accelerometers on the Freerunner almost 8 months ago I was one happy > person. It was my favourite game on my 486 when I was in school! I loved to be able to play Monkey Island and Day of the Tentacle on my Freerunner using ScummVM. Those were my favorite games of that time ;-) Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new cofundus project - Manual/Guide for SHR
> >Please see and support > > > >http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=172 > > > > > >I would also request your feedback to improve this project. > > > i am eagerly waiting to do this /no need for cofund/ but shr will change > a lot in the near future i suspect - shr installer instead of illume > config walk-through, opimd backends which means that storage will change > and also handling network devices is moving quite fast towards connman > (mokonnect) which will be different... > > if possible, i would hold this on for the time being, otherwise the > manual will be soon very, very outdated... > > Petr > Hi Petr, I am aware of the changes happening in SHR. One of the reasons for starting the manual now is that getting a structure in place and having all existing information in one place is very tough, making changes to smaller sections is easier. The way I look at it is we have the manual in a new manuals section on the wiki and regularly take snapshots in PDF and open doc formats that are up to date with the current release. Also this way we will have a manual ready when SHR stable is released and not start writing a manual then. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
El Thursday, 16 de July de 2009 21:13:20 Warren Baird va escriure: > What are your successes with the Freerunner? I have converted the neo with om2009 on an usable development system using distcc and make from Angstrom repositories and the toolchain on the host. I tested it building rakudo from scrtatch in less than 5 hours. is...@om-gta02:~/rakudo-2009-06$ time ./perl6 -e'"hello movile".say' ;time ./perl6 --version hello movile real0m43.844s user0m30.220s sys 0m2.185s This is Rakudo Perl 6. Copyright 2006-2009, The Perl Foundation. real0m39.924s user0m27.445s sys 0m2.205s ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller пишет:
> I can add three special use cases from customers and friends:
>
> a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a student-built
> racing car ("Formula Student")
>
> b) two Freerunners have been used in the German Historic Museum in
> Berlin for a SMS noteboard to attract and entertain visitors
>
> c) one Freerunner was shot into space (really!) - I hope I get
> permission soon to post a link to photos
Yes please, FR in space! You made my day Dr. N.
Photos! Photos! Photos!
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Re: using a FreeRunner without cellular service
Brolin Empey writes: > 2. It lacks flight mode. Are you often getting complains because of that? Or why else do you care? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new cofundus project - Manual/Guide for SHR
>> i am eagerly waiting to do this /no need for cofund/ but shr will >> change a lot in the near future i suspect - shr installer instead of >> illume config walk-through, opimd backends which means that storage >> will change and also handling network devices is moving quite fast >> towards connman (mokonnect) which will be different... >> >> if possible, i would hold this on for the time being, otherwise the >> manual will be soon very, very outdated... >> >> Petr >> > >Hi Petr, > >I am aware of the changes happening in SHR. One of the reasons for >starting the manual now is that getting a structure in place and >having all existing information in one place is very tough, making >changes to smaller sections is easier. The way I look at it is we have >the manual in a new manuals section on the wiki and regularly take >snapshots in PDF and open doc formats that are up to date with the >current release. Also this way we will have a manual ready when SHR >stable is released and not start writing a manual then. > > >Rakshat > OK, lets follow up in the shr-user list. Whoever is interested in this please join in. http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-users Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Warren Baird wrote: > What are your successes with the Freerunner? Well I'm just falling in love with my freerunner. Me and some of my friends made a small robot and controlled that wireless-ly using the Freerunner. I used accelerometer for the navigation, so you turn the FR like a driving wheel and the robot obeys you. And all I had to do in the FR was a python program to read the accelerometers and send appropriate data to a microcontroller over the USB (which was connected to a wireless transmitter). It was awesome fun! I'll see if I can post a video of it some where. -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 15:13 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the > Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of > people then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well > for them. > > I like to try turning that around and start a thread for people to > talk about their successes. Maybe if we get enough good ones we can > push it onto the wiki. Well, not really a success (yet), but at least interesting, I think. We hear a lot on the list that product X is way better than the FR. But often, it's also the other way around. Using the FR as controller for a robot/helicopter/race car/etc. is one thing. Using the FR as an alternative to this (Nagios SMS notification) http://www.nagios.org/products/notification/foxbox/ which will cost you E 780,- seems almost ridiculously easy. You'll have to write some scripts for it, but with FSO sending and receiving SMS is very easy using d-bus. You can use usb networking and python has built-in server-client libraries, so no difficulties there as well. Of course, you could send a machine-readable sms (as opposed to human-readable) to let the receiving end (of course, a FR as well) generate a nice notification screen (with graphs, for example) instead of just a texted sms. That'll show those iPhone users who still browse the default nagios interface (ugly!) on their screen after receiving a simple text message. (Now _don't_ tell me there exists a very cool iPhone app for this!) David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 08:31 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > > With my Freerunner, I am able to control a telescope > > 5000 miles away, and analyse the data, while I sit in a > > pizza parlor. It's the high resolution display and the > > X11 server that lets me do this. > Ken, this is ... this is only a word comes to my mind, beautiful. > > there will be awesome to haves some pictures, screenshots, and if > posible a video of this, Second that! We really need a gallery of cool applications! Since a picture is worth a thousand words, if we'd like to show the world there really is something to all this we don't need lists and lists of applications, we need a gallery. David (currently astroparticle physics PhD student, looking for some time to implement a nice cool app for monitoring our experiment on my N800 and FR) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] reliable alarm application
> ... dozens of lines deleted ... > the projects openmoko page has a working version wow! a one liner as answer but quoting the full 50+ lines before ... did you ever try to read your own mails on a screen like the fr's or even a netbook? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian 2.6.28|29 xserver-xorg-video-glamo] wsod when xserver stops
why did you send it to three lists at once? > since i installed 'xserver-xorg-video-glamo' instead 'xserver-xglamo', > every 2nd (or so) time > i try to shutdown/reboot i get a WSOD when x11 stops. > has someone an idea what i should do? i experience it, too. but i got the slight impression it is somehow related to nodm -- i started to see it, when nodm introduced that supervisor process (ie since there are _two_ instances of nodm running). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 16:05 -0400, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > Don't give up. If you look closely, you can see the light at the end of > the tunnel. It may be faint, but I have seen similar tunnels before, > and I can see the light now. > > Warmest regards, maddog, to me you've just been a name for a long time. `The one with the beard, no not RMS, the other one'. Seems to be a trait of free software visionaries, I guess, ;-) Seeing how you're being a part of this community first-hand, reading your long mails and trying to appreciate the time it must take you to do all this, the energy you put forth to not only try to arrange things but also explain to people who are sometimes skeptical, has been a privilege. Thank you, David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
thanks risto! navit sitll does not run... i have a guess: I have 99% of space used on / maybe navit has not enough space to run (I'm sure it's installation went ok because i got no errors). Now i'll try to put my shr on sd card (neotool, then a bit of luck) then i'll try again to run navit. Thanks guys... d On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > opkg install navit > opkg install libgps17 > cd /usr/lib; ln -s libgps.so.17 libgps.so.16 #navit needs older version.. > > if [ -d "/home/root/.navit" ] > then >mkdir /home/root/.navit > fi > wget http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/navit2009.xml -O > /home/root/.navit/navit.xml > > ##Workaround for #2284 -no autostart for speech-dispatcher > update-rc.d -f speech-dispatcher remove > > > see http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX (but don't rely too much on it :) > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
i know this isn't really impressive, but i use mine as a phone. every day. it's been my main phone since i got it last august, and while it's not been trouble-free, fully-updated OM2009t5 is perfectly usable for me. however, my great moments have all come from having this device that can do lots of *other* things. gprs+tango to make some emergency navigation decisions out in the cambridgeshire fens; various web browsers when i was out and about and desperately needed to check some random fact; using the thing as an ssh client, to access a remote server to run whois when i needed to check domain name availability there and then; impressing my 11-year-old niece, who has high standards for device coolness, by running mokomaze - even though the phone doesn't come in pink or mirror-finish. i wouldn't have carried devices around to do any of these things, but with the moko, i get them all thrown in for free. and the sense of community at mokomeets has been pretty good fun, as well. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Hi, which software you are using for pdf viewing? with kind regards Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 16.07.2009, 15:13 -0400 schrieb Warren Baird: > - It's very useful as a PDF reader - with the high-res screen I've > been able to read documents while walking or while standing on a metro > or bus, when getting out a laptop wouldn't have worked well. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
2009/7/7 Petr Vanek : > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:13:49 +1200 > Robin Paulson (RP) wrote: > >>2009/6/24 Petr Vanek : >>> - calendar sync: Pimlico->Google: seems to sync nicely one way - >>> pimlico to google but not the other way. >> >>how did you get pisi to sync pimlico data - it's not in the options >>for my install of 0.3? > > it was in my install: > > [pimlicodates] > description= Pimlico Dates > module=calendar_ics > path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics could someone help me with setting this up? i've got a new conf file, with the necessary items in, so now pimlico dates appears in the calendar list my conf file contains this: [googleCalendar] description=My Google Calendar module=calendar_google user=robin.paul...@gmail.com password= calendarid=robin.paul...@gmail.com [pimlicodates] description= Pimlico Dates module=calendar_ics path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics when i select the corresponding items in the pisi gui, and hit start, it reports 'Configuring (0%)', but does nothing i'm guessing i've stuffed up the config for gcalendar, but can't see where ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
I would recommend copying navit.xml to /home/root/.navit, because a package upgrade could overwrite it. And it's a good idea to diff your xml against the shipped one for updates from time to time. Also, opkg's memory leak (or whatever was making it to eat 100% cpu and memory) has been fixed (at least in SHR-unstable) so now it's again easy to use navit's daily builds from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ (where the current revision is around 2395 i believe). Davide : if navit says that no gui can be loaded, then either it cannot find the .so files (can be because of a wrong NAVIT_LIBDIR variable) or that you choosed a gui that isn't available (not built) from your navit.xml. Recent packages of navit include a better config sample for the Neo (internal, with better settings for icon_xs and co). I can share my navit.xml if needed. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr-u--navit---howto-config-navit.xml-tp3272259p3275104.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
@Kazer: ok, so your advice is to download the latest navit instead of the one that comes with shr-u? thanks for your detailed reply ;-) d On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:29 PM, KaZeR wrote: > > I would recommend copying navit.xml to /home/root/.navit, because a package > upgrade could overwrite it. And it's a good idea to diff your xml against > the shipped one for updates from time to time. > > Also, opkg's memory leak (or whatever was making it to eat 100% cpu and > memory) has been fixed (at least in SHR-unstable) so now it's again easy to > use navit's daily builds from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ > (where the current revision is around 2395 i believe). > > Davide : if navit says that no gui can be loaded, then either it cannot > find > the .so files (can be because of a wrong NAVIT_LIBDIR variable) or that you > choosed a gui that isn't available (not built) from your navit.xml. > > Recent packages of navit include a better config sample for the Neo > (internal, with better settings for icon_xs and co). I can share my > navit.xml if needed. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/-shr-u--navit---howto-config-navit.xml-tp3272259p3275104.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian 2.6.28|29 xserver-xorg-video-glamo] wsod when xserver stops
2009/7/16 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : >> since i installed 'xserver-xorg-video-glamo' instead 'xserver- >> xglamo', every 2nd (or so) time >> i try to shutdown/reboot i get a WSOD when x11 stops. >> has someone an idea what i should do? > > Wait for upgrade. It's already fixed AFAIK. Indeed. I've run the latest GIT from http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=summary for over a week now and haven't experienced the problem (nor the filling of Xorg.0.log bug) anymore. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Gonna first answer this one small ogg bit. 2009/7/17 The Digital Pioneer : > That said, if anyone knows a way to make it not cut and skip when playing > OGG with mplayer niced at -19, I'd love to hear it. It's not too bad right > now, but there's usually at least one cut per minute. :( My mplayer (on Debian) didn't skip when left alone when I was on a trip, but it usually started to skip if I had frameworkd + wicd + zhone + tangogps all running in the background. I mostly just needed frameworkd and tangogps, though. The key to success is probably compiling some program (eg. mplayer) with the integer-only tremor ogg decoding support. I'm going to have a look at that soon now that I noticed this severe enough "multi-tasking problem" with ogg playing. Without it the CPU load is 60-70% which is pretty high for a 400MHz ARM CPU. But right. I think I mostly covered my anti-whining already in the whining thread, even though this thread would have been a much better place for it. In addition to the Cool Stuff, I'm also one of the people who also use it as the only daily phone, and mostly since August 2008. Of course buzz and echo fixes made GSM life much easier settings wise. I love RSA authentication to home 24h NAS box (running ARM port of Debian as well, like the FreeRunner). Having instant messengers and IRC there gives a possibility to check those from FreeRunner at will. And I mentioned already in that other post that copying photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode is a neat feature and then Neo can be also used to back them further up to eg. the home server from anywhere around the world (...with WLAN access points). Om2009 as a dual-boot backup OS is useful sometimes as well, though less so now that the occasional xf86-video-glamo WSOD problem on shutdown got fixed (I then booted to Om2009 to run fsck on the SD card...). -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Poor performance playing OGG (was: Anti-Whining...)
OK, so I figured I'd make a new thread for this, since I'm whining and therefore this doesn't belong in Anti-Whining. :P I have SHR-U and I still have the occasional cut/skip when listening to OGG. I use mplayer with the integer-only tremor decoder, and CPU usage hovers down around 30-50%. Yet it likes to cut randomly even when mplayer has a nice of -19 and no other desktop apps (non-daemons) are running. Any idea what could be causing this? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
hi i had min. 2 happy moments after the FR fell 2 times off my bike at high speed and still works (except phone functionality). TangoGPS is definitly a killer-Application Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Warren Baird wrote: > > I like to try turning that around and start a thread for people to talk > about their successes. Maybe if we get enough good ones we can push it > onto the wiki. > It is a nice gps device, with its high-resolution screen. Good for OSM mapping, good for having a map display in the car, powered from a generic USB car charger. Also a nice gps to have on the bicycle. When I want a larger map display, I use a laptop, and lets the pc use the freerunner's gps via usb networking and the gpsd protocol. And it is a nice phone too, of course. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
There's some pretty cool stuff going on out there. To try and get some of this off the mailing list and into the wiki, I've created a 'Successful Use Cases' wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Successful_Use_Cases The idea is to gather together all the cool things people are doing with the FR, and to give hints to others about how best to do things like read a pdf, send an IM, or how to disable an alien mothership. I hope anyone who is doing interesting things with their FR can add a quick note there describing what they are doing. Warren On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Warren Baird wrote: > There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the > Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of people > then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well for them. > > I like to try turning that around and start a thread for people to talk > about their successes. Maybe if we get enough good ones we can push it > onto the wiki. > > Here are a few of my own: > > - the GPS with tangogps has been really useful to me a number of times, > especially on business trips > - Pidgin over GPRS has come in quite handy several times, either when I > didn't have my laptop with me, or didn't have wifi coverage > - It's very useful as a PDF reader - with the high-res screen I've been > able to read documents while walking or while standing on a metro or bus, > when getting out a laptop wouldn't have worked well. > - I was able to show off the client software from my 'day job' - a quite > complex j2se application - running on a cell phone, which definitely > impressed people. > > What are your successes with the Freerunner? > > Warren > > -- > Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist > http://www.synergisticimages.ca > -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
On 7/16/09, Warren Baird wrote: > There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the > Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of people > then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well for them. > > I like to try turning that around and start a thread for people to talk > about their successes. Maybe if we get enough good ones we can push it > onto the wiki. > > Here are a few of my own: > > - the GPS with tangogps has been really useful to me a number of times, > especially on business trips > - Pidgin over GPRS has come in quite handy several times, either when I > didn't have my laptop with me, or didn't have wifi coverage > - It's very useful as a PDF reader - with the high-res screen I've been > able to read documents while walking or while standing on a metro or bus, > when getting out a laptop wouldn't have worked well. > - I was able to show off the client software from my 'day job' - a quite > complex j2se application - running on a cell phone, which definitely > impressed people. > > What are your successes with the Freerunner? > > Warren I'm programming on Freerunner. Waiting for testing, in train, in school, even in bed. Everywhere I don't have access to my PC. The most of SHR Settings, SHR Installer and opimd code was created on FR, using just nano, vala-terminal, Illume keyboard and my fingernails ;) Once I was using FR as calculator on math's exam. During test I wrote small python app to count everything I needed ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Warren Baird wrote: > There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the > Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of > people then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well > for them. > > What are your successes with the Freerunner? With my family on vacation trips we camp in a small van I wanted to make a bed in the van and set it for that use but did not know whether the structure withstand our weight with the specifications of the materials on hand I try to find out that I needed to apply Newton's second law Force = mass X acceleration but I did not know what was the acceleration in normal use and should do a stress test to So I put my phone under the mattress and call my wife We gather information from accelerometers I'm sorry but I can not share that data sorry for my English , the fault lies with google ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
tried all: - installed shr on a big sd card - installed navit first form opkg repos - tried navit -> no result - modified navit.xml with internal gui -> no result - export NAVIT_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/ -> no result - installed latest navit -> no result get the very same error (???) d On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Davide Scaini wrote: > @Kazer: > ok, so your advice is to download the latest navit instead of the one that > comes with shr-u? > thanks for your detailed reply ;-) > d > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:29 PM, KaZeR wrote: > >> >> I would recommend copying navit.xml to /home/root/.navit, because a >> package >> upgrade could overwrite it. And it's a good idea to diff your xml against >> the shipped one for updates from time to time. >> >> Also, opkg's memory leak (or whatever was making it to eat 100% cpu and >> memory) has been fixed (at least in SHR-unstable) so now it's again easy >> to >> use navit's daily builds from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ >> (where the current revision is around 2395 i believe). >> >> Davide : if navit says that no gui can be loaded, then either it cannot >> find >> the .so files (can be because of a wrong NAVIT_LIBDIR variable) or that >> you >> choosed a gui that isn't available (not built) from your navit.xml. >> >> Recent packages of navit include a better config sample for the Neo >> (internal, with better settings for icon_xs and co). I can share my >> navit.xml if needed. >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/-shr-u--navit---howto-config-navit.xml-tp3272259p3275104.html >> Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
When I was in school I've heard of Neo1973 and I used to dream of it already :d Next my first love with the FR : when I was hired to work on it and make specific product (OpenGuide for french people http://www.openguide.fr ) I also have a lot of good times, examples are : - running debian - playing movies on a very good screen - debugging with the debug board - using my FR as a linux computer with an usb keyboard, WiFi and a terminal :) - showing the FR for commercial purpose And also be part of a very nice community :) Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
On 7/17/09, Davide Scaini wrote: > tried all: > - installed shr on a big sd card > - installed navit first form opkg repos > - tried navit -> no result > - modified navit.xml with internal gui -> no result > - export NAVIT_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/ -> no result > - installed latest navit -> no result > get the very same error (???) > d > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Davide Scaini wrote: > >> @Kazer: >> ok, so your advice is to download the latest navit instead of the one that >> comes with shr-u? >> thanks for your detailed reply ;-) >> d >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:29 PM, KaZeR wrote: >> >>> >>> I would recommend copying navit.xml to /home/root/.navit, because a >>> package >>> upgrade could overwrite it. And it's a good idea to diff your xml against >>> the shipped one for updates from time to time. >>> >>> Also, opkg's memory leak (or whatever was making it to eat 100% cpu and >>> memory) has been fixed (at least in SHR-unstable) so now it's again easy >>> to >>> use navit's daily builds from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ >>> (where the current revision is around 2395 i believe). >>> >>> Davide : if navit says that no gui can be loaded, then either it cannot >>> find >>> the .so files (can be because of a wrong NAVIT_LIBDIR variable) or that >>> you >>> choosed a gui that isn't available (not built) from your navit.xml. >>> >>> Recent packages of navit include a better config sample for the Neo >>> (internal, with better settings for icon_xs and co). I can share my >>> navit.xml if needed. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/-shr-u--navit---howto-config-navit.xml-tp3272259p3275104.html >>> Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Did you install navit-dev? ... It provides symlinks which navit tries to use. You can also tweak config, but that's little more difficult. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
>tried all: >- installed shr on a big sd card >- installed navit first form opkg repos >- tried navit -> no result >- modified navit.xml with internal gui -> no result >- export NAVIT_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/ -> no result >- installed latest navit -> no result >get the very same error (???) what is your error? run navit from terminal Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Hi just an hour ago, I had to leave the building while a webserver that I was working on had a load of 20% and rising. While walking to the train, I enabled GPRS, started a terminal and logged back in. .. and the load went down. Well, it wasn't the FR bringing the load down. But I could sit in the train in peace. $2c, *-pike PS. GPRS died, never to return, once I forgot to tap the screen for 5 seconds. Had to reboot. Still dont know how to turn sleep off in om2009. But for once, it was all forgiven. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsm restart
as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart it on the fly? power off; power on? echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on ? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
>But I could sit in the train in peace. And while on that train, did you see the light at the end of the tunnel? md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
good bye google code
Dear all: I feel very bad. It took me hours to submit 2 files to google code. This is the second bad day since omgps was registered to google code two months ago. Google search and gmail sucks too, at least from Beijing. I just registered omgps to projects.openmoko.org. Can't use sourceforge.net because it connects to google analytics. Would you please avoid registering your new projects to google code? thanks, mqy -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/good-bye-google-code-tp3277602p3277602.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm restart
Petr Vanek writes: > as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart > it on the fly? power off; power on? > > echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on > echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on Try to kill the muxer (fso-abyss or gsm0710muxd), frameworkd should detect that and restart (which will lead to modem restart) automatically. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: good bye google code
> Would you please avoid registering your new projects to google code? +1 you can't do the smalles things w/o having a google account -- not even contact authors of google code projects, let alone reporting bugs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: good bye google code
> you can't do the smalles things w/o having a google account -- not even > contact authors of google code projects, let alone reporting bugs. I like google search, but google lives a bad life in my country. I dislike the "feature" of google code: it increases SVN revision number whenever you edit a wiki page! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/good-bye-google-code-tp3277602p3277649.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: good bye google code
search function is very bad as well. the only way to get to the intone page is to search google for c_c ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: good bye google code
you might check out github which really rocks and is free for opensource projects 2009/7/17 jeremy jozwik > search function is very bad as well. the only way to get to the intone > page is to search google for c_c > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
what a liberal school which allows a phone during an exam using phones is prohibited even during normal classes here 2009/7/17 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > > > I'm programming on Freerunner. Waiting for testing, in train, in > school, even in bed. Everywhere I don't have access to my PC. The most > of SHR Settings, SHR Installer and opimd code was created on FR, using > just nano, vala-terminal, Illume keyboard and my fingernails ;) > > Once I was using FR as calculator on math's exam. During test I wrote > small python app to count everything I needed ;) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?
hi, just upgraded to fso 5.5 and opp seemed to work as usual. in a second step i installed fsousaged and disabled ousaged. after that opp wasn't able to start up properly at boot (confusing lxpanel heavily). killing opp and starting it manually after i registered to my provider went through w/o hassle. seeing that fsousaged comes up considerably later than frameworkd, i guess, opp is too fast -- it should probably have more patience and at least start with all icons in a disabled state, enabling them when fsousaged becomes available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
On 7/17/09, tb wrote: > what a liberal school which allows a phone during an exam > using phones is prohibited even during normal classes here That's really small class, we can use phones as calculators on some lessions. And writing python script wasn't cheating, as I needed to know theory perfectly to write it :) About liberal schools: that's good example. We are cheating using phones (photos of book pages or something like that), but only when hiding phone from teacher eye on lessions, where using phones is not allowed. When everyone can use phone legally (as calculator for instance) and everything is easier (due to internet access, smses etc.), then noone is cheating :D I think every good teacher should know, that restrictions isn't way to go. But most of them are just lazy, as making restrictions is easier than having good contact with students. But i think that's a little off-topic ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
Hi Maddog, >> it certainly sounds like an amazing opportunity, almost too good to be true >> - what's the catch! :-) >> > I hope that you will find there is no "catch". If you do think there is > a "catch", please tell me. > Thanks again for bringing this to us, and the detailed responses. I think this is a very positive opportunity, and I hope we are on track to the university being in a position to help out with our little projects. I think Werner is trying to catch up with Dr Zuffo - which in my mind would be a very good thing to happen as Werner is definitely the point man for the gta02-core effort. > I certainly see the university as "sponsors" of the project, in the fact > that it does cost money to run such an SMT line, to do some of the legal > work, etc. I would like to find a way to help compensate them for this > work, to make the project truly self-sustaining. Dr. Zuffo and I have > discussed government grants and other funding ideas. Please see below. > > In order to fund the Openmoko project, I would like to suggest that > *all* the things that Openmoko made "open" *up to this time*: > > o circuit design > o case design > o circuit board layout > o testing issues. > o plans for future, etc. > > be completely open and published as before. > > But (for example) the "gerbers" be licensed with a small royalty (1-2 > dollars per phone, with a cap of 500,000 to 1,000,000 USD) only if the > party will make *over* 5,000-10,000 phones There are obviously some significant costs associated with developing hardware that while HW development took place inside openmoko, were met by Sean etal. You rightly point out that if we're to be successful we'll need to find ways to meet those costs. I'd very much like to hear others thoughts on the matter, but from my point of view (and this may be wishful thinking), if there are opportunities to fund this work through grants or corporate donations, I think this would be preferable to licensing the end results (i.e. the gerbers) for production. In my mind, licensing the gerbers for production introduces restrictions on the uses that a recipient may put those designs too - including their ability to modify & redistribute those files. My preference would be to encourage that redistribution, through Share-Alike / GPL style licensing of all assets. If a manufacturer wants to adopt the design to a new case, add extra buttons, changes components or invests additional resources in increasing production yields, the rational for sharing that investment with other licenses is less concrete. Some potential sources for funding might be: - phone fabs that would otherwise need to spend significantly more money either developing their own designs or buying someone else's design - government grants to seed phone production industries, or promote telephony freedom - universities or other research organisations that can use our devices as a platform for learning or their own development. If gerber licensing is believed to be the only realistic way to generate the investment needed for prototype runs etc., I think there would be benefit in any such ownership and licensing being conducted through a legal vehicle independent of any one individual or organisation (I don't know if LSITEC fits this description or not). Doing so would encourage the involvement of multiple organisations, universities or individuals, and would allow the team to select the most economic or timely method for purchasing or prototype production - through one of our partners or external commercial parties if they're able to deliver more effectively. I don't want my comments to be taken negatively, I think LSI-USP has fantastic potential for helping these projects, ensuring the longterm viability of our dream and filling in some of the gaps that are apparent in our efforts to-date. I think you're spot on that universities could be excellent partners with many shared objectives in what we're trying to achieve. Can we do this without resorting to paid licensing of any of our assets? I see a scenario where we, with USP, are in a position to generate designs that they could take into small scale production (similar to OM), selling those handsets to the community at small scale profits, using the process for the benefit of their students and generating a platform for them to grow in the future - while maintaining the SA style licensing. If it's achievable, this seems the ideal outcome to me. All the best, Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] reliable alarm application
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Petr Vanek wrote: > ffalarms are compiled for shr i would guess... look through the > archives, what i do is i just create symlinks for the correct e-lib > names in /usr/lib > ok, i made the symlinks and it seems to work great! thanks for the help -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
I use my freerunner to control my media center in my home and another in my car, all running Linux. I lost the number of times that wifi or even gprs saved me with a ssh conection to my servers. regards, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using a FreeRunner without cellular service
2009/7/17 Paul Fertser > Brolin Empey writes: > > 2. It lacks flight mode. > > Are you often getting complains because of that? Or why else do you > care? I thought I could use flight mode to disable the GSM modem to improve the battery runtime when I do not need cellular service but still want to use the non-phone features, such as the Organiser, but then I discovered my phone lacks flight mode. This might not be significant if I could use my phone without a SIM installed, but I cannot do that either. Anyway, it does not really matter because the battery runtime is already good enough even with the GSM modem on all the time during which the phone is on. I receive so few calls that I often forget I have my phone with me, such as during meetings when I should turn off my phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
