Re: [???] Which system is this?

2009-07-30 Thread Yorick Moko
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:30 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez 
da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:

 Now is based on debian, but next release will have one version based
 on SHR too :)


+20



 2009/7/29 Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.com:
  Wow, I will admit I'm excited to try this out.  I love programming in
  QT...and the UI design here looks great.
  This + litephone would make a very nice distro I believe
 
  I'll throw it on my uSD card and give it a try when I get home.
 
  Does anyone know, is Qallee based on debian?  or the openmoko kernels?
 
  -Dan Staley
 
  On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Rafael Campos meth...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Bernd Prünster
  bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb:
   On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 02:31, Bernd
   Prünsterbernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   saw these screenies on scap:
  
 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/b41df60899616887078dc018612ba0e7.png
  
   looks like efl based, seems to be shr (?)
  
  
   It's Qt4 based. Even looks like Qt :P
  
  
  well i guess i guess i was VERY wrong.
  although an elementary button looks exactly the same when you remove
 the
  bottom layer...
   ...
  
  
   Just read thread about LitePhone. Or if you're lazy:
   Qalee - http://www.openmoko.openmatica.es/QALEE/
  
  
 
  It's Qalee, a debian/Qt distro really interesting and fast. I've the
  opportunity to test at one of the Buzz-Fix Parties in Spain. The uathor
 is
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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Yorick Moko
congratulations and I wish you the best of luck
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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
all the best to you guys!

 Congratulations! I hope everything goes well with the company. Is there  
 a way
 to make tax deductible donations?

hardly, what with being a bgb company.

but do you guys have a list of tasks with a price tag each?
people could vote for tasks most important and chip in to pay.

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Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Tansella
HI,
I'm the developer of openmokoder project: 
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/
Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator 
request(s) waiting  but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at 
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits
 because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. 
Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
� VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

Any hints?

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Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

2009-07-30 Thread Patryk Benderz
 I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I
You can install core-utils package and use cron to shut it down
automatically at 22:00.

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread sriranjan
Michael Tansella wrote:
 HI,
 I'm the developer of openmokoder project: 
 http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/
 Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator 
 request(s) waiting  but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at 
 http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits
  because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. 
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

 Any hints?

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Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-30 Thread Patryk Benderz
 May i propose some different layout? Wouldnt it be better, if the 2-columns 
Of course! You even may go to [1] and add another layout of your design.
It is really quite easy with wiki. Voting is still open, so go ahead!
Remember to use {{{Editing}}} tag if you plan longer edition.

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site  
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

to what address do you get that spam?
faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent  
allegedly from my address.
simply ignore it.

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site  
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
 

 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent  
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.

   

I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael:



The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1
request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits

Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.


Pending posts:
From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list



Bye.



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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

so? what part don't you understand?
the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever  
encountered you spam and hope for the best.
it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of  
spam?

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list
 

 so? what part don't you understand?
 the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever  
 encountered you spam and hope for the best.
 it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of  
 spam?


   
No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me 
of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the 
usual spam. It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Tansella
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:45:08 schrieb arne anka:
  Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
  � VIAGRA � Official Site
  openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.

It's the Mail address I'm registered at projects.openmoko.org. But my main 
problem is that I can not log in at 
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits so I 
get this Openmokoder-commits moderator request(s) waiting mail every day

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
 of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.

???
nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.

 Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the
 usual spam.

???

 It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...

still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
the quotes of spam.

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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Fabian Schölzel
Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 10:08:56 schrieb arne anka:

 hardly, what with being a bgb company.


Which type of german company is it? GbR?

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 30.07.2009 um 10:57 schrieb DJDAS:

 arne anka ha scritto:
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org


 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.



 I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael:

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 The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1
 request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

   http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits
   
 Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
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 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15  
 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on  
 Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

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 --

 Bye.

i'm getting these mails _every_ day since nearly 200 days now for my  
project
at projects.om.org and i also am not able to log in to the mentioned  
mailman/admin

i really would like to turn this off.

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
 of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
 

 ???
 nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
 sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.
   

Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system 
you didn't understand? :)
This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look 
at the headers:

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autolearn=no version=3.1.5
Received: from projects.openmoko.org (projects.openmoko.org [88.198.93.218])
by djdas.djdas.net (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6Q9RPQ1012478
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Subject: 1 Bluemoko-commits moderator request(s) waiting
From: bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
To: bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
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 It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...
 

 still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
 the quotes of spam.

   
Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part 
of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an 
anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the 
subject/notes field to add spamming messages...



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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Sander
DJDAS wrote (ao):
 arne anka ha scritto:
  No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
  of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
  
 
  ???
  nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
  sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.

 
 Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system 
 you didn't understand? :)
 This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look 
 at the headers:

These headers and this email are from the process that manages the
'moderator request(s) waiting' queue.

My guess would be that a spammer spams the mailaddress which receives
the commits, and that mailman refuses to send the spam to the members of
the commit list due to the spammer being a non-member.

With kind regards, Sander

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  It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...
  
 
  still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
  the quotes of spam.
 

 Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part 
 of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an 
 anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the 
 subject/notes field to add spamming messages...

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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Yorick Moko
2009/7/30 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com

 Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 10:08:56 schrieb arne anka:
 
  hardly, what with being a bgb company.
 

 Which type of german company is it? GbR?

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http://www.gtai.com/homepage/investment-guide-to-germany/establishing-a-company/the-legal-form/
and
http://82.98.75.88/homepage/investment-guide-to-germany/establishing-a-company/the-legal-form/partnerships/
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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 hardly, what with being a bgb company.


 Which type of german company is it? GbR?

well, with a name like
Lauer, Lübbe, Schmidt, Willmann, freesmartphone.org GbR.
it's hard to say ... ;-)









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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-07-30 Thread Helge Hafting
KaZeR wrote:
[...]
 I believe that the style_sheet part isn't needed anymore, and instead you
 can use other parameters (like demo, etc).
 I simply ran litephone, in my case and it worked.

Thanks, that worked.

My impressions after testing a bit:

* Looks good, is responsive

* The contact list doesn't have finger scrolling. It jumps when I
   select a message close to the bottom though.

   Finger scrolling is even easier. Just put the finger on the screen
   and drag up or down as necessary.

* Calling and receiving works, but is fragile. Once, litephone didn't
   notice that the other end hung up. The call was terminated, and when
   the other side called back, litephone still was stuck with the
   screen for the previous call.

   I could not reproduce this though, further calls worked
   as expected.

* Entering unicode text into a message doesn't work, I get
   garbage text instead. Strange, because
   stored unicode messages show up fine in the viewer. Most of the
   world uses more than ascii. The shr messaging app has no problems
   with this.

* There seems to be no way to forward a message to others. Shr messaging
   also lack this, you have the chance to be first. :-)

* Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?)
   Please note that the inbox can accumulate lots of messages quickly.
   Deleting one-by-one is fine for deleting a few messages, but
   cumbersome for many. This is a typical problem with many
   phones - click once to select, click once to delete, then wait
   as deletion happens, then click to select, click to delete, wait ...
   Still - you're better than shr with its 3-click deletion.

   Mass deletion is very useful. One way is to have a little checkbox
   at the end of each message in the list. One can then check
   several messages quickly, and hit delete to get rid of
   them all. This way, the user don't have to wait for
   each deletion. If deleting 50 messages is slow, then the
   user simply pockets the phone or play a game while waiting. :-)



===
Crashes:

I tried to save my changes to a contact, and litephone died.
(The contact name contained parentheses, I hope that
  didn't crash it.)
Restarting it worked.

After sending myself some messages, litephone crashed and
can no longer be started on my phone. I get:
INFO: refresh msgs
FATAL: main.cpp: 236 : void PhoneWindow::refreshMessages(): check 
failed: messages.getRow(i).getValue(Content, content):
Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help.
I'll try again when there is an updated version.


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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-07-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:57, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 The updating contact issues I know about, and it's fixed for beta release.
 If Sebastian has implemented Message.Delete in opimd, then the release
 should have full functionality.

I think it's implemented, but you should test it anyway.

 Sebastian, did you fix the data duplication bug already?

I think it's fixed, but you should test it anyway :D

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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-07-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:21, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 * Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?)

For that wait for frameworkd upgrade.

 Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help.

It can't help at all, as libframeworkd-phonegui-efl doesn't use opimd yet.

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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Fabian Schölzel
Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 12:18:14 schrieb arne anka:

 well, with a name like
 Lauer, Lübbe, Schmidt, Willmann, freesmartphone.org GbR.
 it's hard to say ... ;-)

There you are, you tiny little GbR! To say it in german: Argh...!

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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-07-30 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Thanks Helge, this is very helpful. I agree with all the feature requests.
Could you please put them on the wiki [1]?

About the crashes. My experience is that in only (and always) crashes when
there's an error from FSO. So I'll upgrade the GUI to display the FSO error
instead of crashing, and then we will be able to work on finding the
problem. Some of the crashes I've already identified and they will be fixed
in todays release.

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone

Michal


2009/7/30 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no

 KaZeR wrote:
 [...]

 I believe that the style_sheet part isn't needed anymore, and instead you
 can use other parameters (like demo, etc).
 I simply ran litephone, in my case and it worked.


 Thanks, that worked.

 My impressions after testing a bit:

 * Looks good, is responsive

 * The contact list doesn't have finger scrolling. It jumps when I
  select a message close to the bottom though.

  Finger scrolling is even easier. Just put the finger on the screen
  and drag up or down as necessary.

 * Calling and receiving works, but is fragile. Once, litephone didn't
  notice that the other end hung up. The call was terminated, and when
  the other side called back, litephone still was stuck with the
  screen for the previous call.

  I could not reproduce this though, further calls worked
  as expected.

 * Entering unicode text into a message doesn't work, I get
  garbage text instead. Strange, because
  stored unicode messages show up fine in the viewer. Most of the
  world uses more than ascii. The shr messaging app has no problems
  with this.

 * There seems to be no way to forward a message to others. Shr messaging
  also lack this, you have the chance to be first. :-)

 * Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?)
  Please note that the inbox can accumulate lots of messages quickly.
  Deleting one-by-one is fine for deleting a few messages, but
  cumbersome for many. This is a typical problem with many
  phones - click once to select, click once to delete, then wait
  as deletion happens, then click to select, click to delete, wait ...
  Still - you're better than shr with its 3-click deletion.

  Mass deletion is very useful. One way is to have a little checkbox
  at the end of each message in the list. One can then check
  several messages quickly, and hit delete to get rid of
  them all. This way, the user don't have to wait for
  each deletion. If deleting 50 messages is slow, then the
  user simply pockets the phone or play a game while waiting. :-)



 ===
 Crashes:

 I tried to save my changes to a contact, and litephone died.
 (The contact name contained parentheses, I hope that
  didn't crash it.)
 Restarting it worked.

 After sending myself some messages, litephone crashed and
 can no longer be started on my phone. I get:
 INFO: refresh msgs
 FATAL: main.cpp: 236 : void PhoneWindow::refreshMessages(): check failed:
 messages.getRow(i).getValue(Content, content):
 Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help.
 I'll try again when there is an updated version.


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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-07-30 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Hi!

I've been testing it too. Though, I lack add this number to your
contacts buttons. For instance when you just messaged a friend, there is
no way of adding him to your contacts.

Good app though! Very promising, I'm shocked I like qt that much ;)

Pieter

On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:57 +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
 2009/7/29 KaZeR ka...@altern.org
 
 Hello list.
 
 I've tested litephone, and i like the concept behind it.
 Switching from
 contacts to messages to phone logs is done in a breath. I also
 like the
 possibility to change the volume during call, even if it's not
 done in the
 cleaner way : at least, it works. Scrolling is a bit awkward
 at the
 beginning but with the shortcuts on the right side you can
 find a contact in
 a 120+ list quite fast.
 
 Only issue i noticed so far : keypad doesn't work in calls : i
 called my
 voice mail and was unable to navigate in its menu.
 
 Also, deleting sms can be done using
 org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage(int(message)) : it
 could be useful
 :)
 
 Otherwise, very promising app. Please convert
 http://pvtrace.com/litephone/
 into a repository so that i can keep it up to date easily.
 
 Thanks for testing! I wasn't aware of the keypad issue, actually I
 forgot you should be able to use during calls :-), I'll fix it.
 
 The updating contact issues I know about, and it's fixed for beta
 release. If Sebastian has implemented Message.Delete in opimd, then
 the release should have full functionality.
 
 The beta release should come later today (european time :-)).
 
 Sebastian, did you fix the data duplication bug already?
 


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SHR project budget

2009-07-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi,
we have received some donation money and by public voting SHR ( SHR  
launcher) got a quite high percentage. Please see:


http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20t=1295p=13988hilit=spenden#p13988

So I need contact to the project management.

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Re: Intone 0.61 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 29 July 2009, c_c wrote:
 Hi,

 Al Johnson wrote:
  You may be able to sidestep this by using the org.bluez.audio.Control
  dbus interface, but documentation seems somewhat lacking.

   Thanks for your offer. Actually, I'm not so clued up on bt - not having
 been able to even get any sound out of my bt (Jabra 125) handsfree. The
 lack of documentation is quite awkward for something that seems this
 popular. Do let me know if you find anything.

The best docs I've found so far are in the bluez source tarball. They actually 
have a description of what each dbus call is supposed to do, but not how 
everything is supposed to fit together. It looks like the plan is now 
different to the one in the wiki, and that the org.bluez.Control interface 
which my BT3030 seems to have is intended to control things on the device, not 
the other way around. It looks like I may be able to access the headset's 
volume control through it though.


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subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup

2009-07-30 Thread c_c

Hi,
  Ok - this is odd to say the least. Something is wrong though I don't know
what. Here's the log

2009.07.30 18:17:52.929 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem
opreferencesd took 0.36 seconds to startup
2009.07.30 18:17:52.941 frameworkd.controller INFO skipping subsystem
ousaged as requested via config file.
2009.07.30 18:17:52.954 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal
subsystem opimd
2009.07.30 18:17:53.60 frameworkd.subsystem INFO Scanned subsystem via
method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo',
'pimb_sim_contac
ts_fso.py', 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py',
'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py',
'pimb_sim_contacts_fs
o.pyo', 'pimd_contacts.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo',
'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo',
'pimb_sqlite_mes
sages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__init__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo',
'pimb_sqlite_messages.py', 'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py',
'pimd_contacts.py', 'pimb_
sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo',
'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.py']
2009.07.30 18:17:53.222 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager
2009.07.30 18:17:53.392 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.30 18:17:53.457 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.30 18:17:53.543 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.30 18:17:54.503 opimdINFO Registered domain
Contacts
2009.07.30 18:17:54.523 opimdINFO Registered domain
Messages
2009.07.30 18:17:54.537 opimdINFO Registered domain
Calls
2009.07.30 18:17:54.550 opimdINFO Registered backend
SIM-Contacts-FSO
2009.07.30 18:17:54.566 opimdINFO Registered backend
SIM-Messages-FSO
2009.07.30 18:17:54.576 opimdINFO Registered backend
CSV-Contacts
2009.07.30 18:17:54.701 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Contacts
2009.07.30 18:17:55.431 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Messages
2009.07.30 18:17:55.495 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Calls
2009.07.30 18:17:55.505 opimdINFO Registered backend
ogsmd-Calls
2009.07.30 18:23:18.39 tasklet  ERRORgenerator has vanished!
2009.07.30 18:23:18.99 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opimd took
325.13 seconds to startup
 Help !
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Re: subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup

2009-07-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 14:59, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
  Ok - this is odd to say the least. Something is wrong though I don't know
 what. Here's the log

 2009.07.30 18:17:52.929 frameworkd.subsystem INFO     subsystem
 opreferencesd took 0.36 seconds to startup
 2009.07.30 18:17:52.941 frameworkd.controller INFO     skipping subsystem
 ousaged as requested via config file.
 2009.07.30 18:17:52.954 frameworkd.controller INFO     launching internal
 subsystem opimd
 2009.07.30 18:17:53.60 frameworkd.subsystem INFO     Scanned subsystem via
 method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo',
 'pimb_sim_contac
 ts_fso.py', 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py',
 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py',
 'pimb_sim_contacts_fs
 o.pyo', 'pimd_contacts.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo',
 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo',
 'pimb_sqlite_mes
 sages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__init__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo',
 'pimb_sqlite_messages.py', 'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py',
 'pimd_contacts.py', 'pimb_
 sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo',
 'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.py']
 2009.07.30 18:17:53.222 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR    could not import
 pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager
 2009.07.30 18:17:53.392 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR    could not import
 pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
 2009.07.30 18:17:53.457 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR    could not import
 backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager
 2009.07.30 18:17:53.543 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR    could not import
 pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.503 opimd                INFO     Registered domain
 Contacts
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.523 opimd                INFO     Registered domain
 Messages
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.537 opimd                INFO     Registered domain
 Calls
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.550 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 SIM-Contacts-FSO
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.566 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 SIM-Messages-FSO
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.576 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 CSV-Contacts
 2009.07.30 18:17:54.701 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 SQLite-Contacts
 2009.07.30 18:17:55.431 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 SQLite-Messages
 2009.07.30 18:17:55.495 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 SQLite-Calls
 2009.07.30 18:17:55.505 opimd                INFO     Registered backend
 ogsmd-Calls
 2009.07.30 18:23:18.39 tasklet              ERROR    generator has vanished!
 2009.07.30 18:23:18.99 frameworkd.subsystem INFO     subsystem opimd took
 325.13 seconds to startup
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I already fixed few issues with opimd and its speed. Now i'm waiting
for frameworkd rebuild in SHR feed, I hope it will fix your problem.

PS. For me more important are that ERRORcould not import
pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager lines.
Please report, if you'll have it after upgrade.

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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Leonti Bielski
Congratulations!
FSO in my opinion is one of the best thing happened to Openmoko!
Good luck!

Leonti

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[SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?

2009-07-30 Thread Russell Dwiggins
As the topic states, no services appear to be starting.  Settings menu comes
up (brings up the message that ophonekitd has not started and provides a
button to do so, but that changes nothing), but nothing happens with taps on
the icons.  USB networking is not started (so I can't SSH).  Below are some
of the results of commands I ran in terminal and copied here:

 

/etc/init.d/dbus-1 start

chown: unknown user messagebus

 

ophonekitd

Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket
/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory, 55
(dbus-glib-error-quark), code 17

** (process:1483): DEBUG: Adding signals.

 

** CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_add_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)'
failed

aborting.

Aborted

 

/etc/init.d/frameworkd seems to start OK, but I can't find it in the
processes.

 

Anything else I should try?

 

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Re: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?

2009-07-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 20:10, Russell Dwigginsundrwa...@verizon.net wrote:
 As the topic states, no services appear to be starting.  Settings menu comes
 up (brings up the message that ophonekitd has not started and provides a
 button to do so, but that changes nothing), but nothing happens with taps on
 the icons.  USB networking is not started (so I can’t SSH).  Below are some
 of the results of commands I ran in terminal and copied here:



 /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start

 chown: unknown user messagebus



 ophonekitd

 Couldn’t connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket
 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory, 55
 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 17

 ** (process:1483): DEBUG: Adding signals.



 ** CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_add_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)’
 failed

 aborting…

 Aborted



 /etc/init.d/frameworkd seems to start OK, but I can’t find it in the
 processes.



 Anything else I should try?



 Russell Dwiggins

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RE: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?

2009-07-30 Thread Russell Dwiggins


 Install older image. It was said many times, that this one is broken.

I follow the lists pretty closely, and I didn't catch that message.  Can you
point out where it was stated so I might know why I missed it?

Thanks!
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Re: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?

2009-07-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 20:25, Russell Dwigginsundrwa...@verizon.net wrote:


 Install older image. It was said many times, that this one is broken.

 I follow the lists pretty closely, and I didn't catch that message.  Can you
 point out where it was stated so I might know why I missed it?

 Thanks!
 Russell Dwiggins

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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:47, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 Could I hire you to work on opimd? :D

Sure, we could pass it over to the head developer of it behind your back. ;)

 But seriously - I hope some people or companies will be really
 interested in FSO and thus development will be faster. Even if
 neighter frameworkd nor cornucopia will be popular, I hope
 freesmartphone.org specification will live long. And I really hope you
 guys will be able to work on FSO as your primary job :)

That would be great, but for the time being some project work around it would
already be nice. :)

regards
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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Dan Staley
Congratulations as well!
FSO has certainly been the thing that has kept me the most excited and
intrigued with the openmoko and it's software stack.
The work has been done very professionally and is exactly what was needed to
progress the world of open smartphones.
I can only hope that more people will see the FSO stack and want to adopt it
into their products.

Creating this legal entity to showcase the work is an excellent step.

-Dan Staley

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Stefan Schmidt ste...@openmoko.org wrote:

 Hello.

 On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:47, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
  Could I hire you to work on opimd? :D

 Sure, we could pass it over to the head developer of it behind your back.
 ;)

  But seriously - I hope some people or companies will be really
  interested in FSO and thus development will be faster. Even if
  neighter frameworkd nor cornucopia will be popular, I hope
  freesmartphone.org specification will live long. And I really hope you
  guys will be able to work on FSO as your primary job :)

 That would be great, but for the time being some project work around it
 would
 already be nice. :)

 regards
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Re: FSO core team founds BGB company

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 10:08, arne anka wrote:
 all the best to you guys!
 
  Congratulations! I hope everything goes well with the company. Is there  
  a way
  to make tax deductible donations?
 
 hardly, what with being a bgb company.

Indeed, no tax deductible donations. We only have a paypal account for normal
donations.

 but do you guys have a list of tasks with a price tag each?
 people could vote for tasks most important and chip in to pay.

We thought about that and we need to think about it again. A big problem is the
overhead of managing all the small donations. I could imagine that we could
bundle such donation-for-feature thing within our milestone releases. We would
work out the feature set for the next milestone with the community and if people
feel that this milestone did bring them the feature they always wanted, they
make a donation.

As I said. We need to think about it. I also have to mention that we already got
a quite big donation from the freeyourphone.de community. Thanks for that guys.

Also small feature request will often go in during the day by day work. It's not
like we stopped all work beside paid one. We are still working through the
bugtracker for fixes and enhancements and always looking forward to patches.

regards
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Re: subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup

2009-07-30 Thread c_c

Hi,

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 PS. For me more important are that ERRORcould not import
 pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager lines.
 Please report, if you'll have it after upgrade.
 
 After today's upgrade, the time is down - but still seems a lot.

2009.07.31 09:21:18.207 frameworkd.controller INFO skipping subsystem
ousaged as requested via config file.
2009.07.31 09:21:18.230 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal
subsystem opimd
2009.07.31 09:21:18.373 frameworkd.subsystem INFO Scanned subsystem via
method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo',
'pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py'
, 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py',
'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py',
'pimb_sim_contacts_fso.pyo', 'pimd_contact
s.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo',
'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo',
'pimb_sqlite_messages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__ini
t__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_messages.py',
'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py', 'pimd_contacts.py',
'pimb_sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo',
 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo', 'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py',
'pimb_sqlite_calls.py']
2009.07.31 09:21:18.516 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager
2009.07.31 09:21:18.686 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.31 09:21:18.766 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.31 09:21:18.852 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import
pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager
2009.07.31 09:21:19.842 opimdINFO Registered domain
Contacts
2009.07.31 09:21:19.862 opimdINFO Registered domain
Messages
2009.07.31 09:21:19.877 opimdINFO Registered domain
Calls
2009.07.31 09:21:19.892 opimdINFO Registered backend
SIM-Contacts-FSO
2009.07.31 09:21:19.908 opimdINFO Registered backend
SIM-Messages-FSO
2009.07.31 09:21:19.918 opimdINFO Registered backend
CSV-Contacts
2009.07.31 09:21:20.37 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Contacts
2009.07.31 09:21:20.78 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Messages
2009.07.31 09:21:20.141 opimdINFO Registered backend
SQLite-Calls
2009.07.31 09:21:20.151 opimdINFO Registered backend
ogsmd-Calls
2009.07.31 09:22:09.994 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opimd took
51.75 seconds to startup
2009.07.31 09:22:10.7 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal
subsystem onetworkd

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