Re: [???] Which system is this?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:30 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Now is based on debian, but next release will have one version based on SHR too :) +20 2009/7/29 Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.com: Wow, I will admit I'm excited to try this out. I love programming in QT...and the UI design here looks great. This + litephone would make a very nice distro I believe I'll throw it on my uSD card and give it a try when I get home. Does anyone know, is Qallee based on debian? or the openmoko kernels? -Dan Staley On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Rafael Campos meth...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 02:31, Bernd Prünsterbernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: saw these screenies on scap: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/b41df60899616887078dc018612ba0e7.png looks like efl based, seems to be shr (?) It's Qt4 based. Even looks like Qt :P well i guess i guess i was VERY wrong. although an elementary button looks exactly the same when you remove the bottom layer... ... Just read thread about LitePhone. Or if you're lazy: Qalee - http://www.openmoko.openmatica.es/QALEE/ It's Qalee, a debian/Qt distro really interesting and fast. I've the opportunity to test at one of the Buzz-Fix Parties in Spain. The uathor is Christophe M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
congratulations and I wish you the best of luck ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
all the best to you guys! Congratulations! I hope everything goes well with the company. Is there a way to make tax deductible donations? hardly, what with being a bgb company. but do you guys have a list of tasks with a price tag each? people could vote for tasks most important and chip in to pay. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
HI, I'm the developer of openmokoder project: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/ Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator request(s) waiting but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org Any hints? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I You can install core-utils package and use cron to shut it down automatically at 22:00. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
Michael Tansella wrote: HI, I'm the developer of openmokoder project: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/ Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator request(s) waiting but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org Any hints? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes,I am also facing this problem. Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
May i propose some different layout? Wouldnt it be better, if the 2-columns
Of course! You even may go to [1] and add another layout of your design.
It is really quite easy with wiki. Voting is still open, so go ahead!
Remember to use {{{Editing}}} tag if you plan longer edition.
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox
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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org to what address do you get that spam? faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent allegedly from my address. simply ignore it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
arne anka ha scritto: Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org to what address do you get that spam? faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent allegedly from my address. simply ignore it. I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael: The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending posts: From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list Bye. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
Pending posts: From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list so? what part don't you understand? the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever encountered you spam and hope for the best. it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of spam? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
arne anka ha scritto: Pending posts: From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list so? what part don't you understand? the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever encountered you spam and hope for the best. it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of spam? No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me of a pending commit request not a common spamming message. Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the usual spam. It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:45:08 schrieb arne anka: Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org to what address do you get that spam? faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent allegedly from my address. simply ignore it. It's the Mail address I'm registered at projects.openmoko.org. But my main problem is that I can not log in at http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits so I get this Openmokoder-commits moderator request(s) waiting mail every day ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me of a pending commit request not a common spamming message. ??? nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is. Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the usual spam. ??? It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site... still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from the quotes of spam. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 10:08:56 schrieb arne anka: hardly, what with being a bgb company. Which type of german company is it? GbR? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin, Am 30.07.2009 um 10:57 schrieb DJDAS: arne anka ha scritto: Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org to what address do you get that spam? faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent allegedly from my address. simply ignore it. I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael: -- -- The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending posts: From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list -- -- Bye. i'm getting these mails _every_ day since nearly 200 days now for my project at projects.om.org and i also am not able to log in to the mentioned mailman/admin i really would like to turn this off. cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKcWjlr81gVylJyzERAkHvAKD6aS981oXGQEvxLDRtzZi7ZL2pHgCfRasz 5oZlL8CdHL+EFwQSIblNohM= =eami -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
arne anka ha scritto: No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me of a pending commit request not a common spamming message. ??? nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is. Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system you didn't understand? :) This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look at the headers: -- Return-Path: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on djdas.djdas.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.5 Received: from projects.openmoko.org (projects.openmoko.org [88.198.93.218]) by djdas.djdas.net (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6Q9RPQ1012478 for dj...@djdas.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:27:25 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org) by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org) id 1MWOjP-0005b0-KI for dj...@users.projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:11 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org) by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org) id 1MWOjK-0005IK-SA for bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 1 Bluemoko-commits moderator request(s) waiting From: bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org To: bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org Message-ID: mailman.241.1248933784.3962.bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:04 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: cvs commits bluemoko-commits.projects.openmoko.org X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org Errors-To: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/9634/Thu Jul 30 05:03:31 2009 on djdas.djdas.net X-Virus-Status: Clean -- It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site... still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from the quotes of spam. Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the subject/notes field to add spamming messages... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist
DJDAS wrote (ao): arne anka ha scritto: No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me of a pending commit request not a common spamming message. ??? nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is. Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system you didn't understand? :) This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look at the headers: These headers and this email are from the process that manages the 'moderator request(s) waiting' queue. My guess would be that a spammer spams the mailaddress which receives the commits, and that mailman refuses to send the spam to the members of the commit list due to the spammer being a non-member. With kind regards, Sander -- Return-Path: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on djdas.djdas.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.5 Received: from projects.openmoko.org (projects.openmoko.org [88.198.93.218]) by djdas.djdas.net (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6Q9RPQ1012478 for dj...@djdas.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:27:25 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org) by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org) id 1MWOjP-0005b0-KI for dj...@users.projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:11 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org) by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org) id 1MWOjK-0005IK-SA for bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 1 Bluemoko-commits moderator request(s) waiting From: bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org To: bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org Message-ID: mailman.241.1248933784.3962.bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:04 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: cvs commits bluemoko-commits.projects.openmoko.org X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org Errors-To: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/9634/Thu Jul 30 05:03:31 2009 on djdas.djdas.net X-Virus-Status: Clean -- It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site... still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from the quotes of spam. Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the subject/notes field to add spamming messages... -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
2009/7/30 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 10:08:56 schrieb arne anka: hardly, what with being a bgb company. Which type of german company is it? GbR? __ some info: http://www.gtai.com/homepage/investment-guide-to-germany/establishing-a-company/the-legal-form/ and http://82.98.75.88/homepage/investment-guide-to-germany/establishing-a-company/the-legal-form/partnerships/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
hardly, what with being a bgb company. Which type of german company is it? GbR? well, with a name like Lauer, Lübbe, Schmidt, Willmann, freesmartphone.org GbR. it's hard to say ... ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
KaZeR wrote: [...] I believe that the style_sheet part isn't needed anymore, and instead you can use other parameters (like demo, etc). I simply ran litephone, in my case and it worked. Thanks, that worked. My impressions after testing a bit: * Looks good, is responsive * The contact list doesn't have finger scrolling. It jumps when I select a message close to the bottom though. Finger scrolling is even easier. Just put the finger on the screen and drag up or down as necessary. * Calling and receiving works, but is fragile. Once, litephone didn't notice that the other end hung up. The call was terminated, and when the other side called back, litephone still was stuck with the screen for the previous call. I could not reproduce this though, further calls worked as expected. * Entering unicode text into a message doesn't work, I get garbage text instead. Strange, because stored unicode messages show up fine in the viewer. Most of the world uses more than ascii. The shr messaging app has no problems with this. * There seems to be no way to forward a message to others. Shr messaging also lack this, you have the chance to be first. :-) * Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?) Please note that the inbox can accumulate lots of messages quickly. Deleting one-by-one is fine for deleting a few messages, but cumbersome for many. This is a typical problem with many phones - click once to select, click once to delete, then wait as deletion happens, then click to select, click to delete, wait ... Still - you're better than shr with its 3-click deletion. Mass deletion is very useful. One way is to have a little checkbox at the end of each message in the list. One can then check several messages quickly, and hit delete to get rid of them all. This way, the user don't have to wait for each deletion. If deleting 50 messages is slow, then the user simply pockets the phone or play a game while waiting. :-) === Crashes: I tried to save my changes to a contact, and litephone died. (The contact name contained parentheses, I hope that didn't crash it.) Restarting it worked. After sending myself some messages, litephone crashed and can no longer be started on my phone. I get: INFO: refresh msgs FATAL: main.cpp: 236 : void PhoneWindow::refreshMessages(): check failed: messages.getRow(i).getValue(Content, content): Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help. I'll try again when there is an updated version. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:57, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: The updating contact issues I know about, and it's fixed for beta release. If Sebastian has implemented Message.Delete in opimd, then the release should have full functionality. I think it's implemented, but you should test it anyway. Sebastian, did you fix the data duplication bug already? I think it's fixed, but you should test it anyway :D -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:21, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: * Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?) For that wait for frameworkd upgrade. Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help. It can't help at all, as libframeworkd-phonegui-efl doesn't use opimd yet. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Am Donnerstag 30. Juli 2009 12:18:14 schrieb arne anka: well, with a name like Lauer, Lübbe, Schmidt, Willmann, freesmartphone.org GbR. it's hard to say ... ;-) There you are, you tiny little GbR! To say it in german: Argh...! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Thanks Helge, this is very helpful. I agree with all the feature requests. Could you please put them on the wiki [1]? About the crashes. My experience is that in only (and always) crashes when there's an error from FSO. So I'll upgrade the GUI to display the FSO error instead of crashing, and then we will be able to work on finding the problem. Some of the crashes I've already identified and they will be fixed in todays release. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone Michal 2009/7/30 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no KaZeR wrote: [...] I believe that the style_sheet part isn't needed anymore, and instead you can use other parameters (like demo, etc). I simply ran litephone, in my case and it worked. Thanks, that worked. My impressions after testing a bit: * Looks good, is responsive * The contact list doesn't have finger scrolling. It jumps when I select a message close to the bottom though. Finger scrolling is even easier. Just put the finger on the screen and drag up or down as necessary. * Calling and receiving works, but is fragile. Once, litephone didn't notice that the other end hung up. The call was terminated, and when the other side called back, litephone still was stuck with the screen for the previous call. I could not reproduce this though, further calls worked as expected. * Entering unicode text into a message doesn't work, I get garbage text instead. Strange, because stored unicode messages show up fine in the viewer. Most of the world uses more than ascii. The shr messaging app has no problems with this. * There seems to be no way to forward a message to others. Shr messaging also lack this, you have the chance to be first. :-) * Messages cannot be deleted. (Not implemented yet?) Please note that the inbox can accumulate lots of messages quickly. Deleting one-by-one is fine for deleting a few messages, but cumbersome for many. This is a typical problem with many phones - click once to select, click once to delete, then wait as deletion happens, then click to select, click to delete, wait ... Still - you're better than shr with its 3-click deletion. Mass deletion is very useful. One way is to have a little checkbox at the end of each message in the list. One can then check several messages quickly, and hit delete to get rid of them all. This way, the user don't have to wait for each deletion. If deleting 50 messages is slow, then the user simply pockets the phone or play a game while waiting. :-) === Crashes: I tried to save my changes to a contact, and litephone died. (The contact name contained parentheses, I hope that didn't crash it.) Restarting it worked. After sending myself some messages, litephone crashed and can no longer be started on my phone. I get: INFO: refresh msgs FATAL: main.cpp: 236 : void PhoneWindow::refreshMessages(): check failed: messages.getRow(i).getValue(Content, content): Deleting the messages through shr-messages did not help. I'll try again when there is an updated version. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Hi! I've been testing it too. Though, I lack add this number to your contacts buttons. For instance when you just messaged a friend, there is no way of adding him to your contacts. Good app though! Very promising, I'm shocked I like qt that much ;) Pieter On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:57 +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/7/29 KaZeR ka...@altern.org Hello list. I've tested litephone, and i like the concept behind it. Switching from contacts to messages to phone logs is done in a breath. I also like the possibility to change the volume during call, even if it's not done in the cleaner way : at least, it works. Scrolling is a bit awkward at the beginning but with the shortcuts on the right side you can find a contact in a 120+ list quite fast. Only issue i noticed so far : keypad doesn't work in calls : i called my voice mail and was unable to navigate in its menu. Also, deleting sms can be done using org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage(int(message)) : it could be useful :) Otherwise, very promising app. Please convert http://pvtrace.com/litephone/ into a repository so that i can keep it up to date easily. Thanks for testing! I wasn't aware of the keypad issue, actually I forgot you should be able to use during calls :-), I'll fix it. The updating contact issues I know about, and it's fixed for beta release. If Sebastian has implemented Message.Delete in opimd, then the release should have full functionality. The beta release should come later today (european time :-)). Sebastian, did you fix the data duplication bug already? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR project budget
Hi, we have received some donation money and by public voting SHR ( SHR launcher) got a quite high percentage. Please see: http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20t=1295p=13988hilit=spenden#p13988 So I need contact to the project management. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.61 Almost Stable ;-)
On Wednesday 29 July 2009, c_c wrote: Hi, Al Johnson wrote: You may be able to sidestep this by using the org.bluez.audio.Control dbus interface, but documentation seems somewhat lacking. Thanks for your offer. Actually, I'm not so clued up on bt - not having been able to even get any sound out of my bt (Jabra 125) handsfree. The lack of documentation is quite awkward for something that seems this popular. Do let me know if you find anything. The best docs I've found so far are in the bluez source tarball. They actually have a description of what each dbus call is supposed to do, but not how everything is supposed to fit together. It looks like the plan is now different to the one in the wiki, and that the org.bluez.Control interface which my BT3030 seems to have is intended to control things on the device, not the other way around. It looks like I may be able to access the headset's volume control through it though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup
Hi, Ok - this is odd to say the least. Something is wrong though I don't know what. Here's the log 2009.07.30 18:17:52.929 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opreferencesd took 0.36 seconds to startup 2009.07.30 18:17:52.941 frameworkd.controller INFO skipping subsystem ousaged as requested via config file. 2009.07.30 18:17:52.954 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal subsystem opimd 2009.07.30 18:17:53.60 frameworkd.subsystem INFO Scanned subsystem via method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo', 'pimb_sim_contac ts_fso.py', 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py', 'pimb_sim_contacts_fs o.pyo', 'pimd_contacts.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_mes sages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__init__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_messages.py', 'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py', 'pimd_contacts.py', 'pimb_ sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo', 'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.py'] 2009.07.30 18:17:53.222 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.392 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.457 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.543 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:54.503 opimdINFO Registered domain Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:54.523 opimdINFO Registered domain Messages 2009.07.30 18:17:54.537 opimdINFO Registered domain Calls 2009.07.30 18:17:54.550 opimdINFO Registered backend SIM-Contacts-FSO 2009.07.30 18:17:54.566 opimdINFO Registered backend SIM-Messages-FSO 2009.07.30 18:17:54.576 opimdINFO Registered backend CSV-Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:54.701 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:55.431 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Messages 2009.07.30 18:17:55.495 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Calls 2009.07.30 18:17:55.505 opimdINFO Registered backend ogsmd-Calls 2009.07.30 18:23:18.39 tasklet ERRORgenerator has vanished! 2009.07.30 18:23:18.99 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup Help ! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/subsystem-opimd-took-325.13-seconds-to-startup-tp3356133p3356133.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 14:59, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Ok - this is odd to say the least. Something is wrong though I don't know what. Here's the log 2009.07.30 18:17:52.929 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opreferencesd took 0.36 seconds to startup 2009.07.30 18:17:52.941 frameworkd.controller INFO skipping subsystem ousaged as requested via config file. 2009.07.30 18:17:52.954 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal subsystem opimd 2009.07.30 18:17:53.60 frameworkd.subsystem INFO Scanned subsystem via method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo', 'pimb_sim_contac ts_fso.py', 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py', 'pimb_sim_contacts_fs o.pyo', 'pimd_contacts.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_mes sages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__init__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_messages.py', 'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py', 'pimd_contacts.py', 'pimb_ sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo', 'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.py'] 2009.07.30 18:17:53.222 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR could not import pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.392 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR could not import pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.457 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR could not import backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:53.543 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR could not import pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.30 18:17:54.503 opimd INFO Registered domain Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:54.523 opimd INFO Registered domain Messages 2009.07.30 18:17:54.537 opimd INFO Registered domain Calls 2009.07.30 18:17:54.550 opimd INFO Registered backend SIM-Contacts-FSO 2009.07.30 18:17:54.566 opimd INFO Registered backend SIM-Messages-FSO 2009.07.30 18:17:54.576 opimd INFO Registered backend CSV-Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:54.701 opimd INFO Registered backend SQLite-Contacts 2009.07.30 18:17:55.431 opimd INFO Registered backend SQLite-Messages 2009.07.30 18:17:55.495 opimd INFO Registered backend SQLite-Calls 2009.07.30 18:17:55.505 opimd INFO Registered backend ogsmd-Calls 2009.07.30 18:23:18.39 tasklet ERROR generator has vanished! 2009.07.30 18:23:18.99 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup Help ! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/subsystem-opimd-took-325.13-seconds-to-startup-tp3356133p3356133.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I already fixed few issues with opimd and its speed. Now i'm waiting for frameworkd rebuild in SHR feed, I hope it will fix your problem. PS. For me more important are that ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager lines. Please report, if you'll have it after upgrade. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Congratulations! FSO in my opinion is one of the best thing happened to Openmoko! Good luck! Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?
As the topic states, no services appear to be starting. Settings menu comes up (brings up the message that ophonekitd has not started and provides a button to do so, but that changes nothing), but nothing happens with taps on the icons. USB networking is not started (so I can't SSH). Below are some of the results of commands I ran in terminal and copied here: /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start chown: unknown user messagebus ophonekitd Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory, 55 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 17 ** (process:1483): DEBUG: Adding signals. ** CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_add_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed aborting. Aborted /etc/init.d/frameworkd seems to start OK, but I can't find it in the processes. Anything else I should try? Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 20:10, Russell Dwigginsundrwa...@verizon.net wrote: As the topic states, no services appear to be starting. Settings menu comes up (brings up the message that ophonekitd has not started and provides a button to do so, but that changes nothing), but nothing happens with taps on the icons. USB networking is not started (so I can’t SSH). Below are some of the results of commands I ran in terminal and copied here: /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start chown: unknown user messagebus ophonekitd Couldn’t connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory, 55 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 17 ** (process:1483): DEBUG: Adding signals. ** CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_add_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)’ failed aborting… Aborted /etc/init.d/frameworkd seems to start OK, but I can’t find it in the processes. Anything else I should try? Russell Dwiggins Install older image. It was said many times, that this one is broken. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?
Install older image. It was said many times, that this one is broken. I follow the lists pretty closely, and I didn't catch that message. Can you point out where it was stated so I might know why I missed it? Thanks! Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] 7/28/09 Image - no services starting?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 20:25, Russell Dwigginsundrwa...@verizon.net wrote: Install older image. It was said many times, that this one is broken. I follow the lists pretty closely, and I didn't catch that message. Can you point out where it was stated so I might know why I missed it? Thanks! Russell Dwiggins On shr-user list. Broken images are removed now. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Hello. On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:47, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Could I hire you to work on opimd? :D Sure, we could pass it over to the head developer of it behind your back. ;) But seriously - I hope some people or companies will be really interested in FSO and thus development will be faster. Even if neighter frameworkd nor cornucopia will be popular, I hope freesmartphone.org specification will live long. And I really hope you guys will be able to work on FSO as your primary job :) That would be great, but for the time being some project work around it would already be nice. :) regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Congratulations as well! FSO has certainly been the thing that has kept me the most excited and intrigued with the openmoko and it's software stack. The work has been done very professionally and is exactly what was needed to progress the world of open smartphones. I can only hope that more people will see the FSO stack and want to adopt it into their products. Creating this legal entity to showcase the work is an excellent step. -Dan Staley On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Stefan Schmidt ste...@openmoko.org wrote: Hello. On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:47, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Could I hire you to work on opimd? :D Sure, we could pass it over to the head developer of it behind your back. ;) But seriously - I hope some people or companies will be really interested in FSO and thus development will be faster. Even if neighter frameworkd nor cornucopia will be popular, I hope freesmartphone.org specification will live long. And I really hope you guys will be able to work on FSO as your primary job :) That would be great, but for the time being some project work around it would already be nice. :) regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Hello. On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 10:08, arne anka wrote: all the best to you guys! Congratulations! I hope everything goes well with the company. Is there a way to make tax deductible donations? hardly, what with being a bgb company. Indeed, no tax deductible donations. We only have a paypal account for normal donations. but do you guys have a list of tasks with a price tag each? people could vote for tasks most important and chip in to pay. We thought about that and we need to think about it again. A big problem is the overhead of managing all the small donations. I could imagine that we could bundle such donation-for-feature thing within our milestone releases. We would work out the feature set for the next milestone with the community and if people feel that this milestone did bring them the feature they always wanted, they make a donation. As I said. We need to think about it. I also have to mention that we already got a quite big donation from the freeyourphone.de community. Thanks for that guys. Also small feature request will often go in during the day by day work. It's not like we stopped all work beside paid one. We are still working through the bugtracker for fixes and enhancements and always looking forward to patches. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: subsystem opimd took 325.13 seconds to startup
Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: PS. For me more important are that ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager lines. Please report, if you'll have it after upgrade. After today's upgrade, the time is down - but still seems a lot. 2009.07.31 09:21:18.207 frameworkd.controller INFO skipping subsystem ousaged as requested via config file. 2009.07.31 09:21:18.230 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal subsystem opimd 2009.07.31 09:21:18.373 frameworkd.subsystem INFO Scanned subsystem via method 'auto', result is ['pimb_csv_contacts.py', 'helpers.pyo', 'pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py' , 'backend_manager.py', 'pimd_messages.pyo', '__init__.py', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.py', 'pimb_csv_contacts.pyo', 'opimd.py', 'pimb_sim_contacts_fso.pyo', 'pimd_contact s.pyo', 'pimd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.pyo', 'pimb_sim_messages_fso.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.py', 'opimd.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_messages.pyo', 'helpers.py', '__ini t__.pyo', 'backend_manager.pyo', 'pimb_sqlite_messages.py', 'pimd_calls.pyo', 'pimd_messages.py', 'pimd_contacts.py', 'pimb_sqlite_contacts.pyo', 'domain_manager.pyo', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.pyo', 'domain_manager.py', 'pimb_ogsmd_calls.py', 'pimb_sqlite_calls.py'] 2009.07.31 09:21:18.516 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_csv_contacts.py: cannot import name DomainManager 2009.07.31 09:21:18.686 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.31 09:21:18.766 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import backend_manager.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.31 09:21:18.852 frameworkd.subsystem ERRORcould not import pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: cannot import name BackendManager 2009.07.31 09:21:19.842 opimdINFO Registered domain Contacts 2009.07.31 09:21:19.862 opimdINFO Registered domain Messages 2009.07.31 09:21:19.877 opimdINFO Registered domain Calls 2009.07.31 09:21:19.892 opimdINFO Registered backend SIM-Contacts-FSO 2009.07.31 09:21:19.908 opimdINFO Registered backend SIM-Messages-FSO 2009.07.31 09:21:19.918 opimdINFO Registered backend CSV-Contacts 2009.07.31 09:21:20.37 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Contacts 2009.07.31 09:21:20.78 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Messages 2009.07.31 09:21:20.141 opimdINFO Registered backend SQLite-Calls 2009.07.31 09:21:20.151 opimdINFO Registered backend ogsmd-Calls 2009.07.31 09:22:09.994 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem opimd took 51.75 seconds to startup 2009.07.31 09:22:10.7 frameworkd.controller INFO launching internal subsystem onetworkd -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/subsystem-opimd-took-325.13-seconds-to-startup-tp3356133p3360632.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
