Re: QtMoko - v11 - WiFi take 2

[Radek Polak]

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

> So unfortunately, it doesn't work. :-/
> I really don't understand why this doesn't work.

Can you check on your router, if freerunner got connected? If yes then
it's DHCP problem. If no then i dont know. If you have latest kernel
(the one in V11) then it should work. You can also check signal
strength.

Regards

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Re: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working?

[Radek Polak]

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

> In which package do I find wmiconfig

There is link for debian package on this page

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wmiconfig

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Re: QtMoko - /opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network

[Radek Polak]

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

> The network script /opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network have this on line 73:
> 
> let COUNT=COUNT+1
> 
> I don't know which shell allows this (it's certainly not POSIX), and
> QtMoko (v11 now) which uses bash complains:
> Sep 22 23:05:00 neo Qtopia: + let COUNT=COUNT+1
> Sep 22 23:05:00 neo Qtopia: /opt/qtmoko//bin/lan-network: 1: let: not
> found
> 
> If you instead change the line to:
> COUNT=$(( $COUNT + 1 ))

Good catch, its fixed now in my git.

Thanks

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Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Al Johnson]

On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Paul Fertser wrote:
> Torfinn Ingolfsen  writes:
> > Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or
> > it will fade away
>
> I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent
> poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear evidence it's already
> usable for them.

Most people use Windows, but that doesn't meet my needs either ;-)


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QtMoko - v11 - WiFi take 2

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

Ok, now I have QtMoko v11 instaled, and I am trying to get Wireless working
again.
Now I am using the QT network script, /opt/qtmoko//bin/lan-network from a
shell (via ssh).
I have changed the script so it doesn't do ifdown / ifup usb0. (The
passpharse is also changed)
Here is what I have done:
/opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network install eth0 dhcp
/opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network install eth0 wireless -essid "kg4" -authmode
WPA-PSK "password" TKIP

neo:~# /opt/qtmoko//bin/lan-network start eth0
LAN: Starting config script for lan plugin
LAN: With params : start
LAN: starting eth0
Starting wireless
+ . /root/Settings/Network/wireless/eth0
+ WIRELESS_ESSID=kg4
+ WIRELESS_AUTH_MODE=WPA-PSK
+ WIRELESS_WPA_PSK=password
+ WIRELESS_PAIRWISE=TKIP
+ WIRELESS_GROUP=TKIP
+ WPACONF=/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
+ echo
+ echo ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant
+ echo ctrl_interface_group=0
+ echo eapol_version=1
+ echo fast_reauth=1
+ echo ap_scan=1
+ echo network={
+ [ -n kg4 ]
+ echo ssid="kg4"
+ [ -n  ]
+ echo proto=WPA2 WPA RSN
+ [ -n WPA-PSK ]
+ echo key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
+ [ -n TKIP ]
+ echo pairwise=TKIP
+ [ -n TKIP ]
+ echo group=TKIP
+ [ -n password ]
+ echo psk="password"
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ [ -n  ]
+ echo }
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up
+ [  !=  ]
+ /sbin/iwconfig eth0 ap any
+ [  !=  ]
+ /sbin/iwconfig eth0 rate auto
+ [  !=  ]
+ [  !=  ]
+ [  !=  ]
+ /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -d -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B
-ieth0
+ + sleep 3
logger -t WPA
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
+ /sbin/udhcpc -n -i eth0
+ try_ip eth0
+ COUNT=0
+ echo Trying to find ip: 0
Trying to find ip: 0
+ [ 0 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ awk {print $1}
udhcpc (v0.9.9-pre) started
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
Sending discover...
+ COUNT=1
+ [ 1 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ + grep inet[^6]
+ awk {print $1}
awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
Sending discover...
+ COUNT=2
+ [ 2 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ + grep inet[^6]
awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ awk {print $1}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=3
+ [ 3 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ + awk {print $1}
awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
Sending discover...
+ COUNT=4
+ [ 4 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk {print $1}
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=5
+ [ 5 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ + + grep inet[^6]awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
awk {print $1}

+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=6
+ [ 6 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ awk {print $1}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
Lease failed:
No lease, failing.
+ COUNT=7
+ [ 7 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ awk {print $1}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=8
+ [ 8 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ awk {print $1}
+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=9
+ [ 9 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}+ grep inet[^6]
+ awk {print $1}

+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=10
+ [ 10 -gt 10 ]
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0
+ awk {print $1}+ awk BEGIN{FS=":"}{print $2}
+ grep inet[^6]

+ IP=
+ [ -n  ]
+ sleep 1
+ COUNT=11
+ [ 11 -gt 10 ]
+ stop eth0
+ print_debug stopping interface eth0
+ [ 1 -eq 1 ]
+ echo LAN: stopping interface eth0
LAN: stopping interface eth0
+ [ 1 -eq 1 ]
+ echo LAN: stopping interface eth0
+ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 down
+ ifdown eth0
ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
+ ps aux
+ grep [u]dhcpc .*-i eth0
+ awk {print $2}
+ DHCP_PIDS=
+ [ -n  ]
+ ps aux
+ grep [w]pa_supplicant .* -ieth0
+ awk {print $2}
+ WPASUP_PIDS=2391
+ [ -n 2391 ]
+ kill 2391
+ [ -e /home/root/Documents/eth0.txt ]
neo:~#

So unfortunately, it doesn't work. :-/
I really don't understand why this doesn't work.
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RE: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Niels Heyvaert]

>
> Torfinn Ingolfsen  writes:
>> Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or
>> it will fade away
>
> I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent
> poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear evidence it's already
> usable for them.

Perhaps because the Openmoko Wiki urges people to switch to Qi, with fact based 
argumentation, is one of the main reasons why so many people use it.

Some of us are challenged by getting Qi to do what it is advertised to do. 
Technically, Qi allows multiboot, but it proves hard to invoke the behavior.

The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be very useful...

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QtMoko - /opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

This probably goes for other QT / Qtopia based distributions too.
The network script /opt/qtmoko/bin/lan-network have this on line 73:

let COUNT=COUNT+1

I don't know which shell allows this (it's certainly not POSIX), and QtMoko
(v11 now) which uses bash complains:
Sep 22 23:05:00 neo Qtopia: + let COUNT=COUNT+1
Sep 22 23:05:00 neo Qtopia: /opt/qtmoko//bin/lan-network: 1: let: not found

If you instead change the line to:
COUNT=$(( $COUNT + 1 ))

it works. Hopefully this will work on other POSIX compliant shells too.

HTH
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Re: [QTMOKO] GPS pedometer app up on github

[Jim Morris]

Radek Polak wrote:
> Jim Morris wrote:

>> I tried to build a package but I get the following error, if anyone knows 
>> how to fix it please let
>> me know and I'll build a package.
>> myapps/qtpedometer> $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild packages
>> mkpkg qtpedometer
>> You must run configure before you can run mkpkg
>>   at /aux/Stuff/qtmoko/build/sdk/src/build/bin/mkpkg line 25
>> *** Error
>> /myapps/qtpedometer/packages: Prerequisite failed
>> /myapps/qtpedometer/package_pkg: Command execution failed
>> $$path(QtopiaSdk:/src/build/bin/mkpkg,generated) 
>> $$shellQuote($$path(/bin/qbuild,existing))
>> $$shellQuote($$(FORMAT)) $$shellQuote($$path(.package_pkg,generated)) 
>> $$shellQuote($$arch)
>> $$shellQuote(unused) $$shellQuote($$LANGUAGES) $$shellQuote($$PKG_PATH)
>> $$shellQuote($$path(.,project)) $$shellQuote($$path(.,generated)) 
>> $$shellQuote(qtpedometer)
>> $$shellQuote(A GPS based pedometer) $$shellQuote(untrusted) $$shellQuote() 
>> $$shellQuote()
>> $$shellQuote(1.0) $$shellQuote(Untrusted) $$shellQuote(GPL) $$shellQuote(Jim 
>> Morris
>> ) $$shellQuote(Anonymous2 install_target 
>> install_desktop) $$shellQuote(0)
>> $$shellQuote($$(SPLIT_I18N))
>> 
>> You must run configure before you can run mkpkg
>>   at /aux/Stuff/qtmoko/build/sdk/src/build/bin/mkpkg line 25
> 


I found the problem it is related to taht sdk/sdk bug it appears that gets put 
in a lot of files, 
rather than trying to fix that, I simply do this and it fixes the problem..

 > cd build/sdk
 > ln -s ../sdk sdk



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Re: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

> Install wmiconfig and run "wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf" after
> powering on the wifi chip and before scanning.
>

In which package do I find wmiconfig?
neo:/home/root# apt-cache search wmiconfig
neo:/home/root#
neo:/home/root# apt-cache search ^wmi
wmibam - dockapp to monitor the apm status using ibam
wmifinfo - Dockapp that shows information for all interfaces
wmifs - WindowMaker dock app for monitoring network traffic
wmii - lightweight tabbed and tiled X11 window manager, version 3
wmii-doc - lightweight tabbed and tiled X11 window manager, version 3
(documentation)
wmii2 - lightweight tabbed and tiled X11 window manager, version 2
wmii2-doc - lightweight tabbed and tiled X11 window manager, version 2
(documentation)
wminput - Userspace driver for the wiimote
wmitime - clock dock app showing time and internet time
wmix - Dockapp mixer for OSS


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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[arne anka]

> But in daily use on his Xubuntu laptop, i'd certainly recommend aptitude
> over synaptic.

well, synaptic isn't even an option here -- it's instant dead :-)

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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[Dan Staley]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:35 PM, arne anka  wrote:

> > Or you could install aptitude and use aptitude search.  aptitude search
> > vi
> > will list all the packages and descriptions involving vi.
>
> aptitude is rather an overkill -- and
> aptitude search foo
> returns a result far more confusing than helpful.
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I agree it is abit overkill for the moko...especially for the screen size.
But in daily use on his Xubuntu laptop, i'd certainly recommend aptitude
over synaptic.
Always nice to know the CLI alternatives to the GUIs you use.  =)

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Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Paul Fertser]

Torfinn Ingolfsen  writes:
> Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or
> it will fade away

I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent
poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear evidence it's already
usable for them.

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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[arne anka]

> Or you could install aptitude and use aptitude search.  aptitude search  
> vi
> will list all the packages and descriptions involving vi.

aptitude is rather an overkill -- and
aptitude search foo
returns a result far more confusing than helpful.

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Re: gta02-core weekly news

[steven mosher]

Congratulations all around.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Alvie  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> For your information,
>
> (As some of you might already know) I decided to create a blog to post
> weekly news about the #gta02-core project. Maybe this will attract those
> that
> hate emails and reading through email lists, anyway, my idea is to have
> something like Corbet et. al. do on LWN.net: a pretty much summarized, quick
> to read,
> easy to understand, change log of what is happening out there.
>
> Blog lies here:
>
> http://gta02-core-news.blogspot.com/
>
> If anyone has ideas, suggestions, or wish to contribute in any way, you are
> (as always) very very welcomed.
>
> Best,
> Álvaro
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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Thanks, both of you.

Actually, 'apt-cache show vim' did the trick.
It also looks like

apt-cache search ^vim

would have worked equally well.
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Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Al Johnson
wrote:

> I believe it's an arbitrary limit based on the assumption that with no gui
> it
> would be hard to select the intended partition. Given the touble people
> have
> with only 3 partitions it seems well founded.
>

OK, so when Qi is improved so that partition selection is actually usable,
this artificial limitation will go away.
Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or it will
fade away
Whether that happens with the suggested "menu partition" or with an improved
"blinking lights and push buttons" scheme doesn't matter. One way or the
other, Qi must improve.


> This limitation is one of the reasons I'm still using u-boot. The other is
> the
> inability to pass optional kernel parameters when booting from NAND.
>

Hmm, why can't this be solved with the append file (In /boot), like in
QtMoko?
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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[Dan Staley]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Michele Brocco  wrote:

> On 9/22/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is no 'search' action in apt-get, how do I find out if a package is
> > available or not?
> > Example: say I would like to install vi or vim, how do I find out if one
> or
> > the other is available for apt-get?
> > (No, doing 'apt-get install vi' sin't the right way to do it)
> >
> > Yeah, I know, I reveal my newbie status  with regards to Linux. My excuse
> is
> > that on my Xubuntu laptop, I always use synaptic. :^)
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Torfinn Ingolfsen
> >
> apt-cache search XXX
>
> is probably what u are looking for.  u can then search for keywords in
> the results if there are too many results. you do it in this way:
>
> apt-cache search vi | grep -i vi
>
> hope that helps
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Or you could install aptitude and use aptitude search.  aptitude search vi
will list all the packages and descriptions involving vi.

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Re: QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[Michele Brocco]

On 9/22/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is no 'search' action in apt-get, how do I find out if a package is
> available or not?
> Example: say I would like to install vi or vim, how do I find out if one or
> the other is available for apt-get?
> (No, doing 'apt-get install vi' sin't the right way to do it)
>
> Yeah, I know, I reveal my newbie status  with regards to Linux. My excuse is
> that on my Xubuntu laptop, I always use synaptic. :^)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Torfinn Ingolfsen
>
apt-cache search XXX

is probably what u are looking for.  u can then search for keywords in
the results if there are too many results. you do it in this way:

apt-cache search vi | grep -i vi

hope that helps

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Re: [QTMOKO] GPS pedometer app up on github

[Jim Morris]

Jim Morris wrote:
> I have checked in my very recent attempt to write a GPS based pedometer for 
> Qtmoko.
> It is at http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer
> 

I have completed this project (I think), short of fixing any bugs.

It seems to work pretty well now, especially with the final method of 
accumulating Trip distance, 
see the new settings dialog for setting that up.

Final feature list includes...

* Position and speed and bearing
* Trip time, distance and average speed
* Waypoint distance and direction
* Compass showing where north is and where the waypoint is
* Metric or US units
* Suspends sleep while running

Thanks to Anton for the Icon and the package feed. The new version will be up 
on the feed pretty 
soon I hope :)

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QtMoko - hiw do I find out if a package is available?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

There is no 'search' action in apt-get, how do I find out if a package is
available or not?
Example: say I would like to install vi or vim, how do I find out if one or
the other is available for apt-get?
(No, doing 'apt-get install vi' sin't the right way to do it)

Yeah, I know, I reveal my newbie status  with regards to Linux. My excuse is
that on my Xubuntu laptop, I always use synaptic. :^)

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Marcus Bauer]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:31:10 +1200
Robin Paulson  wrote:

> 2009/9/22 Alexander Lehner :
> > I'm not sure whether the gpx import is part of tangogps by default.
> > I once wrote a hacked version that did that.
> >
> > In fact it was not a real XML parser, but only a stupid lookup of
> > strings, so if it doesn't work any more, it would be easy to make
> > that work again.
> 
> if anyone is interested in an xml parser, to convert gpx to tangogps
> format, a friend and i wrote a xslt parser a few months back. see here
> for more info:
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Importing_Tracks_into_tangoGPS


Yep, I got some more requests for this, so expect it to appear soon.
I'll most likely go with libxml for its versatility - unless it adds
too much start up time penalty.

@Alexander: if you want, send me your patch.


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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Joseph Reeves]

> You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will
> always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny
> to see where you were ;)

And, of course, there's no harm in uploading a track to OSM even if
someone has been there before - even better if you go down a well
trodden path and then deviate from it. Oh yeah, and I also spent a
couple of days walking around Cairo convinced that TangoGPS was
logging where I was going until I decided to just leave it on all the
time ;-)



2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer :
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:38:00 +0200
> Michael Zanetti  wrote:
>
>> Sometimes, when I use tangogps for "navigating" I end up in areas not
>> yet mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store
>> the current track afterwards if the Track logging has not been
>> started before. Currently TangoGPS throws away the current track
>> information if one presses "Start Logging".
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> This is internally a different data structure in order to save memory,
> lacking time, speed and altitude information.
>
> You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will
> always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny
> to see where you were ;)
>
> Marcus
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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Marcus Bauer]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:38:00 +0200
Michael Zanetti  wrote:

> Sometimes, when I use tangogps for "navigating" I end up in areas not
> yet mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store
> the current track afterwards if the Track logging has not been
> started before. Currently TangoGPS throws away the current track
> information if one presses "Start Logging".

Hello Michael,

This is internally a different data structure in order to save memory,
lacking time, speed and altitude information.

You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will
always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny
to see where you were ;)

Marcus

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Re: gta02-core weekly news

[Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen]

On Tuesday 22 September 2009 21:16:49 Alvie wrote:
> Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:
> >   Is this aggregated on planet openmoko? :)
> 
> Yes, but I decline any responsibility for it :P

  No problem, it's just that i already follow that one :)

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Re: gta02-core weekly news

[Alvie]

Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:

>   Is this aggregated on planet openmoko? :)

Yes, but I decline any responsibility for it :P

Álvaro

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Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Al Johnson]

On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any specific reason why Qi[1] only tries to boot from partition 1
> - 3 when ther csn be 4 (four) primary prtitons on a SD card?
> Or is it just developer eccentrics or programmer laziness? :-)
>
> References:
> 1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi

I believe it's an arbitrary limit based on the assumption that with no gui it 
would be hard to select the intended partition. Given the touble people have 
with only 3 partitions it seems well founded.

This limitation is one of the reasons I'm still using u-boot. The other is the 
inability to pass optional kernel parameters when booting from NAND.


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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jim Ancona  wrote:

> There isn't yet. You can follow this issue if you want to know when an
> SD installable version is available:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7
>

Thanks. I'll wait then.
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Re: gta02-core weekly news

[Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen]

On Tuesday 22 September 2009 20:50:24 Alvie wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> For your information,
> 
> (As some of you might already know) I decided to create a blog to post
>  weekly news about the #gta02-core project. Maybe this will attract those
>  that hate emails and reading through email lists, anyway, my idea is to
>  have something like Corbet et. al. do on LWN.net: a pretty much
>  summarized, quick to read, easy to understand, change log of what is
>  happening out there.
> 
> Blog lies here:
> 
> http://gta02-core-news.blogspot.com/
> 
> If anyone has ideas, suggestions, or wish to contribute in any way, you are
>  (as always) very very welcomed.

  Is this aggregated on planet openmoko? :)

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Re: QtMoko v11

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

I just finished installing QtMoko v11 on my FreeRunner. (My "upgrade" method
consists of bot from nand, mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p2 + install + restore a
few files from backup)

A quick question:
I get these messages in /var/log/messages after boot:
Sep 22 20:47:11 neo Qtopia: Unable to register with BlueZ service manager...

Sep 22 20:47:11 neo kernel: [21474747.875000] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link)
ver 0.6
Sep 22 20:47:11 neo kernel: [21474747.875000] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer
initialized
Sep 22 20:47:11 neo Qtopia: Unable to register with BlueZ service manager...

Sep 22 20:47:11 neo last message repeated 4 times

Are they important?
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gta02-core weekly news

[Alvie]

Hello all,

For your information,

(As some of you might already know) I decided to create a blog to post weekly 
news about the #gta02-core project. Maybe this will attract those that
hate emails and reading through email lists, anyway, my idea is to have 
something like Corbet et. al. do on LWN.net: a pretty much summarized, quick to 
read,
easy to understand, change log of what is happening out there.

Blog lies here:

http://gta02-core-news.blogspot.com/

If anyone has ideas, suggestions, or wish to contribute in any way, you are (as 
always) very very welcomed.

Best,
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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/22/09, arne anka  wrote:
> well,  here's the real mccoy:
>
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/patterns/tasklet.py", line
> 178, in send
>  value = self.generator.send(value)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
>
> line 287, in load_entries
>  self.process_all_entries(entries)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
>
> line 247, in process_all_entries
>
> self.process_single_entry([[message[0][0]],message[0][1],message[0][2],message[0][3],message[0][4]])
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
>
> line 139, in process_single_entry
>  entry_id = self._domain_handlers['Messages'].register_entry(self,
> entry)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py",
> line 324, in register_entry
>  message_id = GenericDomain.register_entry(self, backend, message_data)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",
> line 647, in register_entry
>  entry.import_fields(entry_data, backend.name)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",
> line 171, in import_fields
>  compare_value = self.make_comp_value(field_value)
>File
> "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",
> line 140, in make_comp_value
>  if str(field_value).startswith('tel:'):
> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in
> position 25: ordinal not in range(128)
>
>
> looks, like utf8 is till not used as default or at least exception
> handling could use some improvement.
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That's me who should get this mail. Mail starred, expect fix soon ;)

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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

> > community@ is a bit high-traffic, don't you find so ;-)
>
> no doubt about that -- but then again: you catched, didn't you ;-)

I've only sent a link to your post to pkg-fso-maint - I won't work on the 
fix myself, at least not in ongoing days :(

> a matter like incomplete unicode handling is no doubt relevant for
> upstream too, so what would be the best course of action?
> - simply doing reportbug?
> - posting only pkg-fso and expecting the package maintainer to transport
> further upstream?
> - double posting at least pkg-fso and smartphones-userland (or
> -standard?)?

Not -standard - it's about standards and not implementation.

Since Debian carries something that differs from upstream head, it is more 
correct to send bugs to debian packages maintainers first. Pkg-fso-maint 
is the correct list for that.

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Re: [all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[arne anka]

> Unfortunatelly there is no dbus call in FSO for that yet.

ok, looking deeper, i have to echo something into /sys/... -- but the file  
is rw for root only.
is there an easy, non-hackish way to set the rw for normal users, too?

all tools/scripts listed in the wiki seem to presume using the fr as root,  
there's no provision made for limited rights, afaics.

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Re: Litephone 0.1

[Michele Brocco]

On 9/22/09, Steven **  wrote:
> I'll try it out tonight and get back.
>
> But I did notice one thing from the screenshots...
> http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/litephone-0.1-5.png
> Is that supposed to say "address" at the top?
>
> And is that a tab or something (can't figure it out from the screenshot)?
Yes it is a tab with Email address, website address twitter address
and postal address currently.

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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[arne anka]

> community@ is a bit high-traffic, don't you find so ;-)

no doubt about that -- but then again: you catched, didn't you ;-)

a matter like incomplete unicode handling is no doubt relevant for  
upstream too, so what would be the best course of action?
- simply doing reportbug?
- posting only pkg-fso and expecting the package maintainer to transport  
further upstream?
- double posting at least pkg-fso and smartphones-userland (or -standard?)?

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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

[Jim Ancona]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen  wrote:
> Is there instructions for installing Android manually on your SD card
> anywhere?

There isn't yet. You can follow this issue if you want to know when an
SD installable version is available:

http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7

Jim

> I would like to try it out, but if it overwrites my NAND and installs a
> incompatible Qi boot loader so that my other installs don't work, I'll have
> to wait until those things are fixed.
>
>
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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

[Vibhav Sharma]

rakshat hooja wrote:
>
>
>
> Try this kernel
>
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
>
> with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your 
> rootfs right now.
>
> Otherwise also try
>
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
>
>
>
So I went and installed SHR-U on Monday. Also the latest kernel. Current 
status is that I have calypso_deep_sleep = always in frameworkd.conf
Been testing my phone for receiving calls while suspended. Haven't lost 
a single one so far. And battery usage is 5% in 6 hours.

WooHoo!

Thanks a lot for the suggestions guys. :)

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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

> > If posted to community@lists.openmoko.org, information may be not seen
> > by relevant people.
>
> well, imo community has the biggest chance to be read by the relevant
> people.
> frinst i am not sure, if the issue at hand is confined to debian (fixed
> in most recent fso git or whatever) and if other people did
> experience/worked around it.
>
> i considered, sending to smartphone-... _too_ but dismissed the idea,
> because of my conviction, that everybody concerned reads community as
> well.

community@ is a bit high-traffic, don't you find so ;-)

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Re: Litephone 0.1

[Steven **]

I'll try it out tonight and get back.

But I did notice one thing from the screenshots...
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/litephone-0.1-5.png
Is that supposed to say "address" at the top?

And is that a tab or something (can't figure it out from the screenshot)?

-Steven

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Christof Musik  wrote:
> Hello
>
> Today I'm pleased to announce Litephone 0.1. Since the last version
> released by Michal I've done some work and improved the whole code.
> There are also many changes and fixes for the UI.  To install it follow
> the instructions on www.litephone.org. There you will find all packages
> that are needed to install Litephone and Qt.
>
> Here is a quick summary of the changes I've done:
>
> - Improved message and phonelog view
> - Contacts can have more properties
> - Added PIN input widget and use it in PIN change dialog
> - Translation support (thanks to Bartłomiej Zimoń for polish
>  translation)
> - Improved startup code
>
> If you find any bugs or have feature requests, just report them on
> www.litephone.org
>
> Kind regards,
> Christof
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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[arne anka]

> If posted to community@lists.openmoko.org, information may be not seen by
> relevant people.

well, imo community has the biggest chance to be read by the relevant  
people.
frinst i am not sure, if the issue at hand is confined to debian (fixed in  
most recent fso git or whatever) and if other people did experience/worked  
around it.

i considered, sending to smartphone-... _too_ but dismissed the idea,  
because of my conviction, that everybody concerned reads community as well.

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Re: Updated package for the puzzle collection

[Steven **]

What are the new games?

I have oh-puzzles installed with the 24 separate icons.  But, I'm
using c_c's launcher app to provide a "Games" category.  I'd prefer to
be able to launch a specific game right away, as opposed to some sort
of launcher script that makes me select which game I want to launch.
I only play 3 or 4 of the 24 games anyways...

Perhaps you could do both?  By default, install a wrapper script.  But
also provide a second ipk that creates all the .desktop files for each
game.

-Steven

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:45 AM, EdorFaus  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I finally got tired enough of Loopy not working to do something about
> it, and ended up creating an updated package.
>
> This package has only been tested on SHR-U, but I think it should work
> on OM and other opkg-based ones too? As long as they have GTK+...
>
> The oh-puzzles package is an old fork of Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle
> Collection[1], that doesn't seem to be updated these days. So I grabbed
> the original source from ST's repository instead, and compiled that with
> the OM toolchain. Only minor changes to the makefile was needed.
>
> Just for the record, this is NOT a new fork, nor do I intend to make
> one, this is just a build of the upstream source.
>
> Compared with oh-puzzles, this new package contains several new games
> and features, a working Loopy, and icons on all the desktop shortcuts.
>
> The icons were generated from the same source, using code that already
> existed for that purpose. The .desktop files are my addition though.
>
> On that note: does anyone know what the size(in pixels) is of the
> desktop icons on the default launcher? (so I can provide that size)
>
> I intend to maintain this package as new versions come out, and have
> (with that in mind) created a personal repository[2] holding it.
> I also uploaded it to opkg.org[3], so people can find it.
>
> I'm going to do some work on automating the building process, and
> hopefully get my changes into upstream source when I'm done (there's
> already code there for other platforms). One problem is the icon
> generation, which needs an X server and to run the built executables.
>
> In the meantime, anyone who wants more detail on the makefile changes or
> other parts of the process, can just ask me.
>
>
> I also hope to take a look at the frontend and getting support for
> singlebutton mice (such as the touchscreen) into it, and have some ideas
> for how to do that; but as I'm not familiar with GTK, don't hold your
> breath. This probably won't happen (by my hand) anytime soon.
>
>
> One thing of note is that having 27 new icons on the desktop from just
> this one package can be a bit much (though similiar to oh-puzzles' 24).
>
> Having a launcher (as fylefou suggested on opkg.org) might be a good
> alternative, but I don't know how (best) to make one, and don't know if
> everyone would like one (people using sortdesk might prefer not).
>
> I also considered making a monolithic binary with all the games in one,
> but as I would have to make a new frontend to do that, it's not
> something I could do quickly. Besides, that would probably take more
> memory to run.
>
> If anyone has any good ideas for this, I'm listening.
>
> --
> EdorFaus
>
> [1] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/
> [2] http://ipk.edorfaus.info/armv4t
> [3] http://www.opkg.org/package_283.html
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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

> well,  here's the real mccoy:
>
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ...

Thanks for your report.

But please post such things either to pkg-fso-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org 
list, or directly into debian BTS (http://bugs.debian.org/).

If posted to community@lists.openmoko.org, information may be not seen by 
relevant people.

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Re: [debian] frameworkd bug?

[arne anka]

well,  here's the real mccoy:


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/patterns/tasklet.py", line  
178, in send
 value = self.generator.send(value)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
  
line 287, in load_entries
 self.process_all_entries(entries)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
  
line 247, in process_all_entries
 
self.process_single_entry([[message[0][0]],message[0][1],message[0][2],message[0][3],message[0][4]])
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
  
line 139, in process_single_entry
 entry_id = self._domain_handlers['Messages'].register_entry(self,  
entry)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py",  
line 324, in register_entry
 message_id = GenericDomain.register_entry(self, backend, message_data)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",  
line 647, in register_entry
 entry.import_fields(entry_data, backend.name)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",  
line 171, in import_fields
 compare_value = self.make_comp_value(field_value)
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py",  
line 140, in make_comp_value
 if str(field_value).startswith('tel:'):
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in  
position 25: ordinal not in range(128)


looks, like utf8 is till not used as default or at least exception  
handling could use some improvement.

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Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hello,

Is there any specific reason why Qi[1] only tries to boot from partition 1 -
3 when ther csn be 4 (four) primary prtitons on a SD card?
Or is it just developer eccentrics or programmer laziness? :-)

References:
1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
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[debian] frameworkd bug?

[arne anka]

since the update today, frameworkd soon after starting zhone simply  
disappears (no error, no log entry, it's just gone).
while trying to figure out what happens, i saw the error below. i have no  
idea, if it is related:


_processElement()
got an element from the queue
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/dbus/connection.py", line 581, in  
msg_reply_handler
 *message.get_args_list()))
   File  
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/fso_actions.py",  
line 233, in 
 error_handler = lambda cls=cls,name=name, e=None:  
cls.onResourceRequestError( name, e ) )
AttributeError: 'DBusException' object has no attribute  
'onResourceRequestError'
no elements in queue: starting idle task.
_processElement()


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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Is there instructions for installing Android manually on your SD card
anywhere?
I would like to try it out, but if it overwrites my NAND and installs a
incompatible Qi boot loader so that my other installs don't work, I'll have
to wait until those things are fixed.


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Re: [debian?] xserver-xorg-video-glamo very slow with navit

[arne anka]

ok. at least it seems not to be a local (configuration) issue.
i switched back to Xglamo untiol further notice.

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Re: [SHR-U/all?] Midori and Wap

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Dienstag 22 September 2009 17:00:22 schrieb D. Gassen:
> Hi all,
> 
> Since I recently upgraded Midori from 0.0.x to 0.1.x that is now
> regularly updated in the SHR-U feeds Midori doesn't want to display
> WAP pages anymore (mime type: text/vnd.wap.wml, example:
>  http://www.bofa.mobi ) but rather offers to download the "file". This used
>  to work in 0.0.x.
> 
> Is that actually a problem with the new version of Midori? If so, is
> there some config file that could be tweaked? (I couldn't find one) Or
> does Midori need to be recompiled with some option?
> 
> Dirk
SHR uses plain Midori, so i think you should ask this the Midori devs.
I just made the recipe and don't want to patch to much in Midori.

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[SHR-U/all?] Midori and Wap

[D. Gassen]

Hi all,

Since I recently upgraded Midori from 0.0.x to 0.1.x that is now  
regularly updated in the SHR-U feeds Midori doesn't want to display  
WAP pages anymore (mime type: text/vnd.wap.wml, example: http://www.bofa.mobi 
) but rather offers to download the "file". This used to work in 0.0.x.

Is that actually a problem with the new version of Midori? If so, is  
there some config file that could be tweaked? (I couldn't find one) Or  
does Midori need to be recompiled with some option?

Dirk

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Re: Updated package for the puzzle collection

[Aapo Rantalainen]

Looks nice. Release makefile in any place and put link to mailing list.
27 icons in desktop is way too much. Make a simple application or
script that loads all icons and shows them with name of game and then
user can click which want to play (or quit). Then execute that binary.
No monolithic binary.

Are some of these games un-playable with touchscreen? Maybe they can
be dropped until it is fixed. If any game can be modified
one-button-friendly maybe upstream is interested in it too.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: [debian?] xserver-xorg-video-glamo very slow with navit

[Thomas White]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:30:06 +0200
"arne anka"  wrote:

> navit came up alright, but it was slw. at a point very early it  
> stopped rerendering altogether, the cpu monitor constantly hit 100% and  
> never came down again.
> looking with top showed X at 50-60%, often even more and never falling  
> below 50%.
> thus, it was completely unusable.

I'd noticed X.org being very slow with GTK programs as well - e.g. tab
switching in TangoGPS takes several seconds, and scrolling is much less
repsonsive than in Kdrive.   At first I attributed it to GEM overheads in the
DRI driver, but then I noticed that it happens with the mainline (non-KMS)
driver as well.  So far, I have no idea at all what's causing it...

Tom

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Re: Fwd: Re: linphone

[Paul]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM, John Dowd  wrote:

> On Monday 21 September 2009 17:11:18 Tschaka wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > i have two positive suggestion for you. first is: i got linphone to play
> > and record sound!!
> > with the hints from the mail you quoted, the packages there (dunno if
> > neccessary) and a self-created alsa state file [1], it works.
> >
> > i moved the /etc/asound.conf file somewhere else (dunno if neccessary,
> try
> > it out), loaded up the state file and now can make calls. however there
> is
> > one problem: you will hear yourself with a 1 sec delay occasionally. try
> to
> > edit the state file and finetune it.
> >
> >
> > second is: you can add contacts through rightclicking on the contacts
> > thingy in linphone. now there is the literki keyboard (you can find it
> > through searching the mailing list), which lets you open up an emulated
> > mouse with pointer and right and left click. read rusolis' announcement
> for
> > further instructions. simply "rightclick" on the contacts area, click on
> > add and off you go.
> >
> > hope this helps. Please report back your experiences with the asound.conf
> > removal and your results.
> >
> > Greetings!
>
> The removal of the asound.conf file just caused the audio to not work. I
> have
> not delved very far into the inner workings of the Neo so I don't know if
> any
> errors are available to report. Since there is no "messages" file I can't
> list
> it here.
>
> I'm presuming that you meant me to use the state file that you linked to in
> your email. I put it on the neo and rebooted (don't know how to "load" the
> state machine from the command line).
>
> Your new state file had no discernible effect on the quality of the audio.
> It
> was still very broken up and delayed and exactly the same as the original
> state file.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> --
> "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy."
>
> John Dowd
> S/W Contractor
> email: jdowd at gmail dot com
> Cell: (613)316-7884
> Home: (613)234-7884
>


whoops, i guess i wasnt clear enough at this point. You got to load the
state file via
"alsactl -f /usr/share/shr/scenarii/linphone2.state restore" (assuming you
put it into this corresponding directory) before making a call with
linphone.

as i said, it worked here, i could call myself on another PC using
Ekiga/linphone on it and on my mobile. didn't test how the removal of
asound.conf affects the system in general, especially after a reboot. i
guess it is there for a reason. i would like to do further testing, but i'm
short in time for at least the next few days.

anyway, feel free to mail :)

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Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices

[Xavier Cremaschi]

And I find it very slow when I scroll big pages.


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Re: Fwd: Re: linphone

[John Dowd]

On Monday 21 September 2009 17:11:18 Tschaka wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> i have two positive suggestion for you. first is: i got linphone to play
> and record sound!!
> with the hints from the mail you quoted, the packages there (dunno if
> neccessary) and a self-created alsa state file [1], it works.
>
> i moved the /etc/asound.conf file somewhere else (dunno if neccessary, try
> it out), loaded up the state file and now can make calls. however there is
> one problem: you will hear yourself with a 1 sec delay occasionally. try to
> edit the state file and finetune it.
>
>
> second is: you can add contacts through rightclicking on the contacts
> thingy in linphone. now there is the literki keyboard (you can find it
> through searching the mailing list), which lets you open up an emulated
> mouse with pointer and right and left click. read rusolis' announcement for
> further instructions. simply "rightclick" on the contacts area, click on
> add and off you go.
>
> hope this helps. Please report back your experiences with the asound.conf
> removal and your results.
>
> Greetings!

The removal of the asound.conf file just caused the audio to not work. I have 
not delved very far into the inner workings of the Neo so I don't know if any 
errors are available to report. Since there is no "messages" file I can't list 
it here.

I'm presuming that you meant me to use the state file that you linked to in 
your email. I put it on the neo and rebooted (don't know how to "load" the 
state machine from the command line).

Your new state file had no discernible effect on the quality of the audio. It 
was still very broken up and delayed and exactly the same as the original 
state file.

Cheers!!

-- 
"To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy."

John Dowd
S/W Contractor
email: jdowd at gmail dot com
Cell: (613)316-7884
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Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> 0.1.10 is in SHR-U, changing the ua-string works fine for me.

opkg upgrade, go go go :D

ps, I`m getting emails from the list very late today.


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Re: [all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[arne anka]

> Charging from only 100mA explains oscillating.

ah. ok, then.

> Check if sysfs paths in
> opp are up to date with your kernel. Unfortunatelly there is no dbus
> call in FSO for that yet.

heck, i thought, there were.

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Re: [all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/22/09, arne anka  wrote:
>> Did you set USB charge current to 500mA? If device which you are
>> connecting can't ennumerate USB connection, Neo will charge with only
>> 100mA - and running system eats something about 200mA.
>
> the opp battery view offers thre buttons for 100/500/1000 mA, i hit all
> three time or another -- no change.
>
> i guess, i should give the plain fso call a try -- but i don't see, how
> that would explain the oscillating.
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Charging from only 100mA explains oscillating. Check if sysfs paths in
opp are up to date with your kernel. Unfortunatelly there is no dbus
call in FSO for that yet.

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Re: [all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[arne anka]

> Did you set USB charge current to 500mA? If device which you are
> connecting can't ennumerate USB connection, Neo will charge with only
> 100mA - and running system eats something about 200mA.

the opp battery view offers thre buttons for 100/500/1000 mA, i hit all  
three time or another -- no change.

i guess, i should give the plain fso call a try -- but i don't see, how  
that would explain the oscillating.

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Updated package for the puzzle collection

[EdorFaus]

Hi,

I finally got tired enough of Loopy not working to do something about 
it, and ended up creating an updated package.

This package has only been tested on SHR-U, but I think it should work 
on OM and other opkg-based ones too? As long as they have GTK+...

The oh-puzzles package is an old fork of Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle 
Collection[1], that doesn't seem to be updated these days. So I grabbed 
the original source from ST's repository instead, and compiled that with 
the OM toolchain. Only minor changes to the makefile was needed.

Just for the record, this is NOT a new fork, nor do I intend to make 
one, this is just a build of the upstream source.

Compared with oh-puzzles, this new package contains several new games 
and features, a working Loopy, and icons on all the desktop shortcuts.

The icons were generated from the same source, using code that already 
existed for that purpose. The .desktop files are my addition though.

On that note: does anyone know what the size(in pixels) is of the 
desktop icons on the default launcher? (so I can provide that size)

I intend to maintain this package as new versions come out, and have 
(with that in mind) created a personal repository[2] holding it.
I also uploaded it to opkg.org[3], so people can find it.

I'm going to do some work on automating the building process, and 
hopefully get my changes into upstream source when I'm done (there's 
already code there for other platforms). One problem is the icon 
generation, which needs an X server and to run the built executables.

In the meantime, anyone who wants more detail on the makefile changes or 
other parts of the process, can just ask me.


I also hope to take a look at the frontend and getting support for 
singlebutton mice (such as the touchscreen) into it, and have some ideas 
for how to do that; but as I'm not familiar with GTK, don't hold your 
breath. This probably won't happen (by my hand) anytime soon.


One thing of note is that having 27 new icons on the desktop from just 
this one package can be a bit much (though similiar to oh-puzzles' 24).

Having a launcher (as fylefou suggested on opkg.org) might be a good 
alternative, but I don't know how (best) to make one, and don't know if 
everyone would like one (people using sortdesk might prefer not).

I also considered making a monolithic binary with all the games in one, 
but as I would have to make a new frontend to do that, it's not 
something I could do quickly. Besides, that would probably take more 
memory to run.

If anyone has any good ideas for this, I'm listening.

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EdorFaus

[1] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/
[2] http://ipk.edorfaus.info/armv4t
[3] http://www.opkg.org/package_283.html

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Re: [all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/22/09, arne anka  wrote:
> i just bought an external battery, just mobile gum pro (4400 mAh,Input
> (Mini USB): 5VDC 500mA Min; output (USB Type A Port): 5VDC 1000mA) to keep
> the fr alive even when using gps hours on end.
>
> last night i tried to load the fr, when starting the fr was at 48% --
> after 11h it was at 69%.
> looking at openmoko-panel-plugin's battery view, the state oscillated
> between "charging" and "not charging".
> the pwr led however firmly stayd orange, indicating charging (switching
> the batter yoff almost immediately made the led going blue, so it's not
> just inertia).
>
> sending the fr to suspend and charging, brought the level to 100% in maybe
> two hours (that's when i checked again).
>
> so, does anyone experience similar issues with an external battery? and
> what could probably cause that oscillation (and how to stop that of
> course)?
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/4400mAh-External-Battery-Portable-Devices/dp/B001BWQTOC/ref=sr_1_1/187-9838094-3791553?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1253622704&sr=8-1
>
> ps: just to see which kind is not line broken ...
>> http://www.amazon.com/4400mAh-External-Battery-Portable-Devices/dp/B001BWQTOC/ref=sr_1_1/187-9838094-3791553?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1253622704&sr=8-1
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Did you set USB charge current to 500mA? If device which you are
connecting can't ennumerate USB connection, Neo will charge with only
100mA - and running system eats something about 200mA.

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[all/fso?] external battery "just mobile gum pro" woes

[arne anka]

i just bought an external battery, just mobile gum pro (4400 mAh,Input  
(Mini USB): 5VDC 500mA Min; output (USB Type A Port): 5VDC 1000mA) to keep  
the fr alive even when using gps hours on end.

last night i tried to load the fr, when starting the fr was at 48% --  
after 11h it was at 69%.
looking at openmoko-panel-plugin's battery view, the state oscillated  
between "charging" and "not charging".
the pwr led however firmly stayd orange, indicating charging (switching  
the batter yoff almost immediately made the led going blue, so it's not  
just inertia).

sending the fr to suspend and charging, brought the level to 100% in maybe  
two hours (that's when i checked again).

so, does anyone experience similar issues with an external battery? and  
what could probably cause that oscillation (and how to stop that of  
course)?


[1]  
http://www.amazon.com/4400mAh-External-Battery-Portable-Devices/dp/B001BWQTOC/ref=sr_1_1/187-9838094-3791553?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1253622704&sr=8-1

ps: just to see which kind is not line broken ...
> http://www.amazon.com/4400mAh-External-Battery-Portable-Devices/dp/B001BWQTOC/ref=sr_1_1/187-9838094-3791553?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1253622704&sr=8-1


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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

[Christian Rüb]

undrwater wrote:

> I'm looking at replacing my Mosquito (mentioned in the other post) with a D9
> (a dive buddy has offered it up at a great price).  Does your new version
> now support the D9?

Lucky you :) No, it does not support D9, these are different protocols, see 
here [1]. But you might want to look at divetools-ab (vyperlink.c) [2] sources 
and just rewrite the parts, so it suits the D9 protocol. Or you can wait until 
I can get back to developing and make some tries with libdc.

On the other hand you can experiment with libdc [3] yourself writing a testapp 
to try the basics - there are already some basic examples in the sources.

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://www.sarnau.info/papers:suunto_protocol
[2] http://www.acs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/download/dive/
[3] http://www.divesoftware.org/libdc/

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[debian?] xserver-xorg-video-glamo very slow with navit

[arne anka]

this weekend i kinda got lost (still no, which direction to go, but not  
sure, which street to chose).
thinking, it would be agreat occasion to test navit's navigation again i  
fired it up  and there the tale ends.

navit came up alright, but it was slw. at a point very early it  
stopped rerendering altogether, the cpu monitor constantly hit 100% and  
never came down again.
looking with top showed X at 50-60%, often even more and never falling  
below 50%.
thus, it was completely unusable.

right now i switched back to Xglamo driver -- navit comes up, Xglamo is  
around 10%, jumping to 17% sometimes. while navit seemed to relocate  
center there was a graphic anomaly (internal gui's icons moved about 50px  
left/bottom while active zome still at the correct position), but that's  
all.
navit itself surely eats some cpu, but together with Xglamo it is rather  
responsive.

so, does anyone experience similar issues with  xserver-xorg-video-glamo?  
maybe in combination with navit?
if not, if navit is pretty much usable and you are using   
xserver-xorg-video-glamo, could you post your xorg.conf?

debian is sid and up to date.

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Dienstag 22 September 2009 11:33:34 schrieb Robin Paulson:
> 2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer :
> > First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
> > months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
> > open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone.
> 
> excellent work, marcus. looking forward to using it
> 
> is there a binary for openmoko?
> 
> shr devs, could you get the new version in the repos?
> 
> cheers
It's build but it can't be sync to the feed.

The package can be found here: http://build.shr-
project.org/tests/mrmoku/unstable/feed/armv4t/tangogps_0.9.7-r1_armv4t.ipk

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Re: Some QtMoko questions

[Radek Polak]

Chris Parich wrote:

> Hi guys, this is my first time posting, so howdy.

Welcome :)

> Just a few questions about qtmoko, and wondering if anyone else has the same 
> issues as I do.
> 
> First off, email. I can't get Google POP or anything SSL related to work out 
> of the box. email TLS does tho, is this just me, do I need to install some 
> package, any help would be appreciated.

No idea here, sorry :( You can enable logging and maybe find some hints
in the log.

> Secondly, I remember it was quite easy to store media to the uSD card by 
> default in the original 4.3.2 release of qtopia, is there any way to do this 
> with qtmoko?

Do you remember where one could set this? It would be very useful to
have this option. If the option was in 4.3.2 it should be in QtMoko too
unless someone has removed it.

> Are alarms working yet? they don't seem to work when I input events into the 
> calender, and I don't get a wake up alarm either. It'd be nice if this would 
> work, altho its not entirely necessary.

I have now workaround for working alarms. I tested several times and it
seems to work just fine.

The workaround is to set alarm, open media player (not QMplayer) and
play some song. Then suspend phone with short POWER press while song is
playing.

In the morning alarm will wake the phone up and it will continue
playing.

Btw the media player can now play just wav. If you want ogg then put
attached file to /opt/qtmoko/plugins/codecs/libtremorplugin.so

Hopefully next version will have full working alarm.

> Lastly, on my Freerunner, the cell signal strength always reports low except 
> when switching towers. I know the signal is quite strong, especially at my 
> apartment, seeing as I'm less than 1000 ft. from a tower and I'm on the 2nd 
> floor. But I only have 1 bar. Maybe some line of code in the chain is 
> looking for a positive number and getting a negative instead, IE wanting >0, 
> but getting -96db or some-odd. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed 
> this issue. It was never a problem with the original 4.3.2 all the way up to 
> 4.4.2

No idea here too...

> Great work on it by the way, thanks for all the quality you've put into this 
> piece of software! 

Glad to hear this.

Regards

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Michael Zanetti]

Hi Marcus,

Thank you very much for TangoGPS.

It is without any question my favourite app for the Freerunner. You are doing 
a great job!

However, there is one thing that you could improve:
Sometimes, when I use tangogps for "navigating" I end up in areas not yet 
mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store the current 
track afterwards if the Track logging has not been started before. Currently 
TangoGPS throws away the current track information if one presses "Start 
Logging".

Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday 21 September 2009 18:43:37 Marcus Bauer wrote:
> Heya out there!
> 
> First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
> months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
> open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone.
> 
> The new features include:
> 
>  * overzoom until level 20
>  * upscaling of missing tiles
>  * a map scale indicator
>  * overhauled "this point" function
>- easy measuring of distances and ways
>- display of bearing = useful for navigation
>  * friend function simplified and you can now add a message
>to your position
> 
> 
> As always, it runs well on your laptop/netbook too. The full release
> announcement is here:
> 
>  http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/News
> 
> I am currently looking for cool stories/photos/blog entries for
> featuring on the website. Thus send me your stories, pictures or links
> - be it on the Freerunner or any other device.
> 
> Have fun!
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Launcher - v 0.37 Release UPDATED (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[KaZeR]

Hello there :)

I'm back from holidays.. Expect a new bunch of comments :)
And, thanks for this new release, c_c!

First issue i'm facing : 
- opened a conversation
- clicked cancel to go back to the main conversation view
- boom :
59 SQL error: 21 library routine called out of sequence
Segmentation fault

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer :
> First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
> months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
> open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone.

excellent work, marcus. looking forward to using it

is there a binary for openmoko?

shr devs, could you get the new version in the repos?

cheers

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/22 Alexander Lehner :
> I'm not sure whether the gpx import is part of tangogps by default.
> I once wrote a hacked version that did that.
>
> In fact it was not a real XML parser, but only a stupid lookup of strings,
> so if it doesn't work any more, it would be easy to make that work again.

if anyone is interested in an xml parser, to convert gpx to tangogps
format, a friend and i wrote a xslt parser a few months back. see here
for more info:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Importing_Tracks_into_tangoGPS

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RE: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

[Niels Heyvaert]

>
> Hi Neils,
>
> It's unfortunate that Koolu has gone unresponsive. I know maddog was at one 
> point reading this list - if he still is, perhaps he can comment on the 
> status of things.

A question was raised on the Koolu forum asking for the plans with Android on 
the Freerunner. An email was sent to Brian, Jon and Marcelo to find out more. 
The same message was also posted to the mailing list hosted by Koolu. Nobody 
from Koolu's side responded. Makes it pretty obvious that it is not their 
priority to keep things going...
 
> The google code wiki is kinda sparse (understandable since it's so new), and 
> the android sections on the openmoko wiki seem to be quite out of date.

You're right and we already started organising ourselves to improve things.
 
>
> Is there a summary somewhere around what works and what doesn't, and how 
> close it is to being usable as an 'every day' phone?
>

That is actually a good idea to put this on the Wiki. I've seen other distros 
doing the same. Will take this up in our discussions about the Wiki pages.
 
Thanks for your input! Feel free to contribute more or join the discussion 
group ;-)
 
In any case, we'll keep you and everybody posted on news and updates.
 
Niels.
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Hebben jij en je vrienden leuke foto's van jullie feestje? Maak een groepsalbum 
en geniet nog extra na. 
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx
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