Re: Tracking down reasons for segvaulting applications

2009-12-29 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 28 December 2009, Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
> 2009/12/28 Patrick Beck :
>
> The downside of this all is that I will have to have a GPS fix, which
> will force me to go outside in wintertime :/

Being near a window is usually good enough, although getting the fix may take 
a bit longer than it would outside. There are a few exotic window coatings 
that can interfere with the signal though.

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[SHR-U] Screen Calibration

2009-12-29 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Anybody know how to verify screen calibration on SHR-U? I need to check
that the X server is returning
reasonably accurate pen touch locations.

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Re: [SHR-U] Screen Calibration

2009-12-29 Thread Yogiz
Why not simply use the painting application that came with SHR and
check if it paints the pixels you're touching?

Yogiz

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:14:33 -0500
"Iain B. Findleton"  wrote:

> Anybody know how to verify screen calibration on SHR-U? I need to
> check that the X server is returning
> reasonably accurate pen touch locations.
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Re: [SHR-U] Screen Calibration

2009-12-29 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Yogiz wrote:
> Why not simply use the painting application that came with SHR and
> check if it paints the pixels you're touching?
>
> Yogiz
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:14:33 -0500
> "Iain B. Findleton"  wrote:
>
>   
Good plan. I am printing out the values sent by the X server and they
appear to indicate that the
location of a pen touch can vary by quite a few pixels. Just trying to
track down why that would be and to make sure that an adjustment can be
made.

I don't think there is a problem necessarily with absolute screen
locations, by within a window in an application I detect some issues. As
a start, it would be nice to know the screen locations are good, and if
not, how to get the X server to send good ones. Other armv4t machines I
have used had a mechanism for screen calibration, and I wonder if the
Neo under SHR has such an application and
method.
>> Anybody know how to verify screen calibration on SHR-U? I need to
>> check that the X server is returning
>> reasonably accurate pen touch locations.
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[shr-u] Problems with eve and libewebkit

2009-12-29 Thread hab keen oh ne
Hi,
I just tried to install the eve web browser from the shr feeds, but there are 
two problems. The version of libecore and libedje of the latest SHR doesnt 
match the version required by eve. The next problem is, that libewebkit 
provides the same error page (/usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html) as 
libwebkit.
Martin.


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Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

What distribution you run most of the time?

If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
over to, and why?


Thank you :)


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
> What distribution you run most of the time?

yes
yes
and shr-u 20091205

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
>   
No
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>
>   
No
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>
>   
SHR-U
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
>
>   
Battery life, heat generation. Nokia basic model
> Thank you :)
>
>
> r
>
>   


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Bastian Muck
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> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa 
> wrote:
>> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your
>> primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time?
>
> yes
+1
> yes
+1
> and shr-u 20091205
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RE: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread hab keen oh ne
yes, its my only phone
yes, its my only PDA
shr-u





Von: Risto H. Kurppa 
An: List for Openmoko community discussion ; 
shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 29. Dezember 2009, 21:30:53 Uhr
Betreff: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

What distribution you run most of the time?

If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
over to, and why?


Thank you :)


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread D. Gassen

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:

> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
YES!

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
YES!

> What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U Current (I have a working SHR on NAND that I don't update and whenever 
the update breaks the one on the SD I can switch to NAND until the on the SD 
card works again).

> 
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
Switch? No way!

Dirk ;-)
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Pander
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

yes

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

yes

> 
> What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR

> 
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
> 
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> 
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes.

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes. I'm even programming on it ;)

> What distribution you run most of the time?

Of course latest SHR-unstable, being upgraded constantly for about
year without reflashing ;)

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Benjamin Neuman
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:

> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
>
yes

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>
no

>
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>
shr testing

>
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
>
>
> Thank you :)
>
>
> r
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa 

> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
>

No


> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>

Yes


>
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>

Shr


>
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
>
>
Switched back to my old motorola. I kept missing calls and messages
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Peter Fey
Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 22:30 +0200 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes, if downloading + listening to podcasts counts as pda usage
> What distribution you run most of the time?
an old shr unstable (from september or so)



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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread David Fokkema
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes, lately with great satisfaction.

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

No, an N800 (which I owned way before my FR).

> What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-testing (the revived one, ;-)

> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
> 
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> 
> r
> 

I'm looking forward to the results!

David



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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Le 29/12/2009 21:34, jeremy jozwik a écrit :
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
>
>> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
>> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>> What distribution you run most of the time?
>>  
yes
yes
SHRu / H:1

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Re: Hardwarefixing at 26c3?

2009-12-29 Thread Konstantin
Good Evening! :)

Matthias Eller schrieb:
> Am Sonntag 27 Dezember 2009 schrieb Konstantin:
> 
>> Great, I'm looking forward to it! :)
>> I assume you are there the whole congress? I will not be able to be
>>  there before the third day (December 29), is it possible to get a
>>  fix then, or is that too late?
> 
> schould be fine.
> We will leave 30th late in the evening

I just wanted to thank you again for the great job you did today on doing the
#1024-fix on my Freerunner. So far, everything works like a charm. :)

> MfG
> Ello

Regards,
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Vaudano Luca
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) SHR-testing

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread ghislain

Yes
Yes
QtMoko

Regards,
Ghislain van der Steen
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread A.A.
2009/12/29 Vaudano Luca 

> 1) Yes
> 2) Yes
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2) No
3) Debian or Qtmoko.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Bas
On 12/29/2009 09:34 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
>> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
No (was hoping to be able to use it by now, but my contract expired so I
ordered a new phone)

>> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
No

>> What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U


Personal note: I am kind of disappointed with the slow progress of the
software (just an observation, not judging it  :)  )

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
No.

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
No.

> 
> What distribution you run most of the time?
[SHR-U] - cd shr-unstable; make image, ...

> 
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
> 
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> 
> r
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 "Risto H. Kurppa"  said:

> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

no. gathering dust.

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

no. gathering dust.

> What distribution you run most of the time?

no to both the above. but on other devices a mix of openembedded, debian,
ubuntu or "do it yourself".

> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?

1. i'd like something not crawlingly slow
2. i'd like to use the 3g data rates telcos offer here, but where their 2g data
rates are much more expensive
3. i'd like it to work when i travel (going to korea and japan for example only
3g phones will work).
4. i want a touchscreen that is large enough to be really usable (as such the
2.8" lcd is really more like 2.2 or 2.4" thanks to the bezel - for input).
5. again speed, capacity, screen, baseband, usability.

> Thank you :)
> 
> 
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Re: Hardwarefixing at 26c3?

2009-12-29 Thread Jan Girlich
Hi,

I just got my buzzfix done by Ello as well. Thanks for that! But now I
noticed that people only hear me very *softly* almost not at all, even
when I crank up the mic input volume to max.

Any know bug I just couldn't find? Or maybe a problem with the buzz fix?

Greetings from the Congress!
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[WikiReader] where to send patches?

2009-12-29 Thread Robin Humble
Hi,

I've been playing with rebuilding wikireader enwiki images with
fedora12 x86_64 on a test cluster of ours over the holidays.
seems to work fine.

I have some small fixes for 64bit issues with hash building, fedora
paths, php warnings from a different (newer?) php5 version, and some
nasty hacks to get around php Fatal errors on a few wiki articles.

is this list the right place to send wikireader patches?

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread c_c

Hi,

>Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Yes.

>Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
Yes.

What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Denis Johnson
yes
yes
shr-t latest

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread DRSp.
Am 29.12.2009 21:30, schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
>
>
> Thank you :)
>
>
> r
>
>
1) yes
2) yes
shr-u

have a happy new year

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día martes, diciembre 29, 2009 a las 10:30:53 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa 
escribió:

> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

No, but as my daily/only phone;

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

No, my primary PDA is a netbook EeePC 900 with FreeBSD;

> 
> What distribution you run most of the time?

Om2008.9

> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?

n/a

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Re: Tim's brilliant hack for #WikiReader

2009-12-29 Thread Ron Hale-Evans
The email below was rejected because the attachment was too large.
Please read on, and find the patched kernel here:

http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/kernel.elf.borders

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ron Hale-Evans  wrote:
> Well, I bit the bullet and installed a WikiReader build environment
> and compiled the latest kernel. Then I applied Tim's patch and
> recompiled and installed the kernel.
>
> It's brilliant! I'm attaching it to this message. Just rename it to
> kernel.elf, save it to your SD card, and pop it back in. Enjoy! (Back
> up your old kernel first.)
>
> Thanks, Tim!
>
> As a bonus, the latest build also seems to improve touch screen
> responsiveness for hyperlinks.
>
> Ron Hale-Evans
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Ron Hale-Evans  wrote:
>> Tim,
>>
>> This sounds awesome! I hope it becomes standard.
>>
>> Could you please attach a complete kernel for those of us who are too
>> lazy to set up a toolchain right now? :)
>>
>> Happy holidays and thanks,
>>
>> Ron H-E
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Tim Besard  wrote:
>>> Seems like patch didn't get through, reposting bzipped.
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>> Op woensdag 16-12-2009 om 22:28 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tim
>>> Besard:
 Hi all,

 Attached to this mail is a small patch I wrote a while ago, introducing
 border interactions. It quite simply hacks in a 15px magical border
 which when tapped induces certain actions:
   * upper border: page up;
   * lower border: page down;
   * left border: history back;
   * right border: history forward.

 I've added page up & down because it reads far faster and scrolling
 (at least on my wikireader) turned out to be quite unreadable. History
 back and forward are handy shortcuts while clicking through links of an
 article.

 -Tim

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