[commercial] Want to purchase 2 A7 Freerunners
I am looking to purchase 2 A7 Freerunners. If someone has a A7 and is not using it please contact me on my mail directly. Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:59:18 -0600 Eric Olson said: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) Rafael Ignacio Zurita > > said: > > ... > > > > i'm getting at the fact that the hw side is stuck - it wont work without a > > pot of gold. the hw side that WORKS are the big companies with lots of pots > > of gold already. if you want to make something work - work with them on the > > software side... but you are free to ignore this advice and continue with > > your idea that you "need to work on the process" as you'll be working on it > > without anything being produced for a vry long time (read - > > never) unless you find a pot of gold. it's the hw side that has these > > costs that unlike software, can't be replaced by someone simply spending > > their time on evenings/weekends. it costs real money - get your pot of gold > > and it can happen, or ork with those who already have the pots of gold - > > and produce hardware. until then you're an armchair sportsman. you can yell > > about how that pass was bad or whatever... you won't affect the game - > > ever. you'll just cover your tv with spittle. :) > > > > > > Doom and gloom :) > > I still like the idea of a modular 3g modem in your phone. Design your > next openmoko/qi/openwhatever linux pda and leave in a usb port and a > cavity for the smallest 3G usb stick. Maybe place it on the end of the > phone and reduce the case size later. It's not perfect, but it allows > replacement of the cell module which gives you lots of flexibility. > Similar things already happen -- QI's Ben gets wifi for free with an SD > card slot. It just became much more useful. This is just an example > that you don't need a pot of gold for everything. > > These solutions aren't for everyone, and neither is GNU/Linux on the > desktop, but for some it will be the preferred choice. > > Open hardware is still fairly new -- and you _can_ make progress without > pots of gold. You won't be able to get everything, but you might get > more (look at GNU/Linux's progress, although I know big companies > support some of its development now). Thank you to gta02-core, QI, and > other people for working on open hardware. as ken young said - 95% of your gnu/linux market just went away if the above is your solution. 95% of already a small market. they are interested in a real production-level device that is in the same ballpark as everyone else in price,, design and features... BUT that runs linux (not android - android is not linux and very far from it). and that linux needs to be open enough to not get in the way - if u cant recompile a kernel or cant fix a bug .. then thats bad. the people who demand open all the way to the bottom including hw schematics are tiny subset (the 5%) and suddenly your niche market just got a hell of a lot more niche - and thats going to kill most models. but if thats what you like - good luck and enjoy. you will have a very limited selection of devices - if any and be always fighting against the grain. your costs will be high. choice low. :( but.. to each their own. the vast majority of those interested in om were interested in the above - and that included me. the rest (open hw) is just an added "ooh nice" but not a necessity. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Investigation of failure to report received SMS
I got two occurrences of this problem recently, with DEBUG frameworkd logging. (I've replaced data strings in the following and linked logs by ***, but am happy to share the real contents privately if that would help.) 1. SMS timestamp: dbus.String(u'Fri Feb 5 08:31:39 2010 +' Detected as having been missed (by added zhone code [1]) at 08:32:12: 2010-02-05 08:32:08,525 INFO check for missing received messages... 2010-02-05 08:32:08,532 INFO new message! Retrieving messagebook... 2010-02-05 08:32:10,027 INFO IDLE STATE = idle_dim 2010-02-05 08:32:12,101 INFO retrieved messagebook: *** 2010-02-05 08:32:12,147 INFO play sound to announce unread messages 2010-02-05 08:32:12,184 INFO show missed message 2010-02-05 08:32:12,214 DEBUG transition to text_show [1] http://gitorious.org/stuff-for-openmoko-freerunner/debian-usr-bin/commit/3dbd67371b5434711554555cae0020837416c794 frameworkd log is at http://ossau.homelinux.net/~neil/fr1.txt 2. SMS timestamp: dbus.String(u'Fri Feb 5 11:40:45 2010 +' Detected by zhone code at 11:43: 2010-02-05 11:43:35,521 INFO check for missing received messages... 2010-02-05 11:43:35,527 INFO new message! Retrieving messagebook... 2010-02-05 11:43:38,212 INFO retrieved messagebook: *** 2010-02-05 11:43:38,260 INFO play sound to announce unread messages 2010-02-05 11:43:38,295 INFO show missed message 2010-02-05 11:43:38,309 DEBUG transition to text_show frameworkd.log is at http://ossau.homelinux.net/~neil/fr2.txt In both cases, it seems: - the only frameworkd trace near the time of the SMS timestamp is about a CypherStatus indication - the retrieval of the messagebook (initiated by zhone) triggers frameworkd to send a wakeup signal to the modem, and then to get lots of data from it. There are lots of other occurrences of the "last communication with modem" trace in my log, so it looks like that might be perfectly normal. Does that give anyone any clues about why those received SMSs are missed? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Your message to community awaits moderator approval
On 26 February 2010 03:09, Adam Jimerson wrote: > Ether that or use something like Pastebin for all the debugging output and > other large amounts of text, but the best thing in a case like that would be > to open a bug report. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, William Kenworthy > wrote: >> >> sounds like you should create a bug and post a summary here when it gets >> that big. Thanks for your advice. However, trying to register at trac.freesmartphone.org (which I think is the right place), I get: === Oops… Trac detected an internal error: SMTPRecipientsRefused: {u'coret...@freesmartphone.org': (550, '5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table')} === I imagine that may be resolved soon, but in the short term I'll also use the pastebin approach... Thanks, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u 20100212] what has happened to mickeyterm?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:00:15PM -0800, jeremy jozwik wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Martin Jansa wrote: > > mterm2 > > thanks, that should be added to the wiki if it replaces mickeyterm. Then add it.. mickeydbus -> mdbus, mickeyterm removed from shr-lite mdbus2, mterm2 are newer versions IIRC rewritten in vala mickeyterm is still in feeds, but not installed as dependency of task-shr-minimal (and then shr-lite images), that's why it was automaticaly removed for you by opkg (as it became orphaned package), if you install it manually it will stay. > but the command i want to issue "AT%N0001" is not accepted, or i do > not know how to work with this new interface. mterm2 --help is of > little help I don't know much about mickeyterm/mterm2 so I cannot help you there, but you can try it in that old mickeyterm. > where have the settings for noise reduction gone to? I don't know.. Regards, -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u 20100212] what has happened to mickeyterm?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Martin Jansa wrote: > mterm2 thanks, that should be added to the wiki if it replaces mickeyterm. but the command i want to issue "AT%N0001" is not accepted, or i do not know how to work with this new interface. mterm2 --help is of little help where have the settings for noise reduction gone to? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) Rafael Ignacio Zurita > said: > ... > > i'm getting at the fact that the hw side is stuck - it wont work without a pot > of gold. the hw side that WORKS are the big companies with lots of pots of > gold > already. if you want to make something work - work with them on the software > side... but you are free to ignore this advice and continue with your idea > that > you "need to work on the process" as you'll be working on it without anything > being produced for a vry long time (read - never) unless you > find a pot of gold. it's the hw side that has these costs that unlike > software, can't be replaced by someone simply spending their time on > evenings/weekends. it costs real money - get your pot of gold and it can > happen, or ork with those who already have the pots of gold - and produce > hardware. until then you're an armchair sportsman. you can yell about how that > pass was bad or whatever... you won't affect the game - ever. you'll just > cover > your tv with spittle. :) > > Doom and gloom :) I still like the idea of a modular 3g modem in your phone. Design your next openmoko/qi/openwhatever linux pda and leave in a usb port and a cavity for the smallest 3G usb stick. Maybe place it on the end of the phone and reduce the case size later. It's not perfect, but it allows replacement of the cell module which gives you lots of flexibility. Similar things already happen -- QI's Ben gets wifi for free with an SD card slot. It just became much more useful. This is just an example that you don't need a pot of gold for everything. These solutions aren't for everyone, and neither is GNU/Linux on the desktop, but for some it will be the preferred choice. Open hardware is still fairly new -- and you _can_ make progress without pots of gold. You won't be able to get everything, but you might get more (look at GNU/Linux's progress, although I know big companies support some of its development now). Thank you to gta02-core, QI, and other people for working on open hardware. Eric ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hi folks, I am living also near Hamburg and I am also looking for contacts and help. Is there someone for helping next to Hamburg? christian Am Freitag, den 26.02.2010, 18:31 +0100 schrieb Jan Girlich: > Hi, > > since I got my OM debuzzed the mic volume went very soft and I just > found out that it's due to the 2k2 resistor at pads R4303 being either > short circuited or the wrong part (just the bridge it was before?). > > If you are living in Hamburg, Germany, have the appropriate tools and > skills and maybe have the right resistor at hand or know someone who > does, please drop me a message. > > I'll compensate the effort accordingly. > Thanks > Jan > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Tel.: +49 171 357 59 57 eMail: wesse...@gmx.net Web: http://wesselch.homelinux.org Skype: wesselch signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Palm Pre] Code-Sprint next week!
Em 26-02-2010 18:06, morp...@gravedo.de escreveu: > After the sprint is over we will report what we have done and which > tasks are open to help us to get a full featured FSO rootfs for the Palm > Pre. Awesome news! Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Palm Pre] Code-Sprint next week!
Heyho! Mickey and me will meet next week for two days to work on the port of FSO to the Palm Pre. We plan to have our first call between two FSO-driven Palm Pre devices. Most stuff for that is already implemented in the libmsmcomm library and only the integration with FSO have to be done. Furthermore we hope to integrate some more stuff into FSO like power supply, power control and audio routing. Maybe we will have a first initramfs image with FSO support for the Palm Pre finished on the second day which you can download and try on your own device. After the sprint is over we will report what we have done and which tasks are open to help us to get a full featured FSO rootfs for the Palm Pre. regards, morphis pgpgZTLmoitpi.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hi, since I got my OM debuzzed the mic volume went very soft and I just found out that it's due to the 2k2 resistor at pads R4303 being either short circuited or the wrong part (just the bridge it was before?). If you are living in Hamburg, Germany, have the appropriate tools and skills and maybe have the right resistor at hand or know someone who does, please drop me a message. I'll compensate the effort accordingly. Thanks Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Problems with NWA
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Ben Thompson wrote: [...] > I think this is a different bug. It happens occasionally with me too, > but it was also there with the old QT libs. Niko - are you aware of > this problem? If you are talking about complete system freeze it happens to mee too sometimes and is related to weak wifi kernel drivers. If you are lucky and have an open ssh connection with usb you should see the oops with dmesg, after that the "reboot" command itself seg faults. Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Problems with NWA
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:39:39AM +0100, n...@el-hennig.de wrote: > > > > Martin fixed qt builds (thanks again), and Ben just reported that NWA > > works again after upgrading. > > It starts up, yes. But when I close nwa I have to reboot my FR as it does not > react on any input by pressing the power button. I think this is a different bug. It happens occasionally with me too, but it was also there with the old QT libs. Niko - are you aware of this problem? Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 12:15 + schrieb Al Johnson: > On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 10:03 +0300 schrieb Vladimir Berezenko: > > > В Пнд, 22/02/2010 в 16:00 +0100, Jan Girlich пишет: > > > > I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look > > > > at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is > > > > really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection > > > > from the capacitor to the resistor? > > > > > > It might be that you have your mic dead. I've replaced my own because > > > it came already dead. The symptoms were the same. You must cry loud to > > > micro and on the other end someone hears you very silent. > > > > Any way to conclusively check if it's the mic? And how did you get it > > replaced? I wouldn't be able to do the soldering work myself. > > The short to ground at R4303 means that even with a working mic you will have > little to no signal. You will need to get that fixed before you can test the > mic. Got it confirmed by a friend yesterday, R4303 really is short circuited. Gotta get a replacement and find a suitable soldering gun. Anyone in or around Hamburg, Germany with the right tools to do some SMD soldering? Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Problems with NWA
> Martin fixed qt builds (thanks again), and Ben just reported that NWA > works again after upgrading. It starts up, yes. But when I close nwa I have to reboot my FR as it does not react on any input by pressing the power button. -- n...@el-hennig.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Jefliks Jabber-Client release
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Matthias Eller wrote: > Am Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010 schrieb Davide Scaini: > > "IO Error 7" > > > I have the same error. > After some debugging with wireshark i filed a bug: > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2956954&group_id=302757&atid=1276407 > > maybe this is also the origin of your error > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > I tried with the suggestion of Rui, but with no luck. Maybe it's something like Matthias reported... d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with NWA
Great News!!! d On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Nicola Mfb wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Davide Scaini wrote: > > yes.. > > you have to use qt libs from noko repos dalle libqt* 4.4.3-r3 (while in > shr > > repos you find 4.6.0-r14.1.4). > > It's a problem in cflgs when compiling qts on shr... nicola (the > developer > > of nwa) is aware of this, and shr guys I think too... > > d > [...] > Martin fixed qt builds (thanks again), and Ben just reported that NWA > works again after upgrading. > > Regards > > Niko > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community