Re: project customers

[Werner Almesberger]

Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> no news there and no solution to is unless you design your own
> gpu... good luck. :))

I'd worry a lot more about GUI and applications than about any bit
of hardware. Pads in one form or another have been around for a
long time. So far, they weren't particularly successful.

The promise of the pad is basically that there are many tasks,
either new but useful (and beyond what a smartphone could do) or
traditionally requiring a laptop, that can be formulated such that
all the interaction they require are a few taps and drags.

Maybe the iPad will be able to do this. Maybe not. We'll see.

- Werner

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Re: project customers

[Bernd Prünster]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:18:45 +0200 Bernd Prünster 
> said:
>
>   
>> ever heard of the touchbook?!
>> 
>
> or joojoo... or one of the 1894 "mee too" ipad clones coming out (varying from
> arm based to x86 based). there is no room for a freerunner core based pad... -
> pushing that many pixels means more grunt. the gta02 already couldnt handle
> what it had. by a large margin. just buy one of these me-too pads and fidddle
> with it. hell if "tangogps" is the killer app - does an open os matter? as 
> long
> as you can compile it and install it (toouchbook is there already for that -
> and it's open. not the schematics - though if you look carefully its actually 
> a
> slightly modified beagleboard - so design is open actually), and os is open.
> the other me-too's on x86 will be pretty much just as open as any other
> netbook (give or take) - and yes. we know. imgtec, sgx, closed gpu. that's the
> case everywhere. no news there and no solution to is unless you design your 
> own
> gpu... good luck. :))
>
>   
+1
the beagleboard (omap3550) has quite a nice amount of horsepower, it can 
to 720p, has nice dsp which is quite well supported, and the folks at ai 
and the community around the touchbook are playing around to get 
accelerated composing working thanks to opengl ES an thanks to the wokr 
nokia did on the n900 (omap3550 again if i'm right).
apart from that casual computing, littel surfing a little office work 
and thanks to powerVR you can also watch videos quite nicely thanks to 
mplayer hardware accel, but the system still hat beta quality, so i can 
just hope they iron the remaining bugs out in time. i'm not paid to 
write that, i just think this might be an interesting device for 
freerunner users...

please correct me if i wrote too much junk - it is 4,40 am here

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Re: project customers

[The Rasterman]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:18:45 +0200 Bernd Prünster 
said:

> ever heard of the touchbook?!

or joojoo... or one of the 1894 "mee too" ipad clones coming out (varying from
arm based to x86 based). there is no room for a freerunner core based pad... -
pushing that many pixels means more grunt. the gta02 already couldnt handle
what it had. by a large margin. just buy one of these me-too pads and fidddle
with it. hell if "tangogps" is the killer app - does an open os matter? as long
as you can compile it and install it (toouchbook is there already for that -
and it's open. not the schematics - though if you look carefully its actually a
slightly modified beagleboard - so design is open actually), and os is open.
the other me-too's on x86 will be pretty much just as open as any other
netbook (give or take) - and yes. we know. imgtec, sgx, closed gpu. that's the
case everywhere. no news there and no solution to is unless you design your own
gpu... good luck. :))

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Re: project customers

[Bernd Prünster]

ever heard of the touchbook?!

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Re: project customers

[Werner Almesberger]

Kosa wrote:
> I ain't no expert on this, but since iPad is being a succesful "mobil
> device", we could give a chance for a BIGGER Freerunner.

The joy of the Open Design Hardware concept - anyone can design their
own mutant :)

> There's a huge market for the big touchscreen devices.

Let's see how the Newt^H^H^H^HiPad goes. Wouldn't be the first device
to end up in the gadget graveyard after the novelty effect wears off.

> I guess a bigger device is easier to build BTW.

Having a larger case gives you more freedom, yes. Designing it as an
offspring of a phone would make it attractive to use much of the same
technology, though. After all, you've already debugged it, know where
to get the parts, etc., so there's probably little to optimize from
the engineering point of view.

A larger screen may be a problem, though, if it also comes with a
larger resolution. The larger the resolution, the more pixels the
poor CPU has to push and the more memory bus bandwidth is eaten up by
refreshing the screen.

Of course, 640x480 would still look quite tolerable at, say, 6" (133
dpi, like the original Eee PC), so you may be able to avoid this
issue - and be able to use cheap screens.

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Neil Jerram]

On 15 April 2010 00:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors  wrote:
> Neil Jerram  writes:
>> Does anyone else see this?
>
> I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that
> started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521

Hmm, interesting.  But I don't think I've ever seen a freeze or crash
when running fbdev.

FWIW, I have:
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -l "*xserver*" | grep ii
ii  x11-xserver-utils  7.5+1
 X server utilities
ii  xserver-common 2:1.7.6-2
 common files used by various X servers
ii  xserver-xorg   1:7.5+5
 the X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core  2:1.7.6-2
 Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-dev   2:1.7.6-2
 Xorg X server - development files
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.5+5
 the X.Org X server -- input driver metapacka
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev   1:2.3.2-4
 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics   1.2.1-1
 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-tslib   0.0.6-3
 tslib touchscreen driver for X.Org/XFree86 s
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom   0.10.3+20100109-1
 X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev   1:0.4.2-1
 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-glamo
0.0.0+20091108.git9918e082-2 X.Org X server -- SMedia Glamo display
drive
ii  xserver-xorg-video-v4l 1:0.2.0-4
 X.Org X server -- Video 4 Linux display driv

Is the problem perhaps fixed in 2:1.7.6-2, and I happened to be lucky
in skipping 2:1.7.6-1 ?

>> If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
>> on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
>
> What kernel?

All of these:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2326996 Jan 12 14:44
/boot/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_oma-andy-2a04ce8203d7d0f1.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1928400 Mar  3  2009
/boot/uImage.bin-2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1449260 Feb 20 23:04
/boot/uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100118.gita15608f2

The last 2 of which are the Debian kernels:
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -l "*openmoko*" | grep ii
ii  linux-image-2.6.28-openmoko-gta02  20090105.git69b2aa26-3
 Linux 2.6.28 kernel image for the Openmoko Neo Freerunner
ii  linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02  20100118.gita15608f2-2
 Linux 2.6.29 kernel image for Openmoko GTA02 Neo FreeRunner

And this SHR-T kernel:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1934408 Jan 25 19:54 uImage-2.6.29-rc3

> Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
> wear less :-)

Thanks, I'm doing that now.  Must switch back to glamo to see if it works now...

  Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Neil Jerram]

On 16 April 2010 13:59, Timo Juhani Lindfors  wrote:
> Josh Thompson  writes:
>> Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on
>> the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery 
>> contacts.
>
> echo s3c2410_wdt >> /etc/modules
> sudo modprobe s3c2410_wdt
> sudo apt-get install watchdog

Thanks for that.  I have had watchdog installed for some time, but
never knew the part about the s3c2410_wdt module.

 Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Neil Jerram]

On 16 April 2010 13:45, Josh Thompson  wrote:
> I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge case
> hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it.  In my case,
> I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something I do that is
> graphics related that causes the freeze.  It's never something repeatable, but
> it is always something related to the contents of the screen being updated.  I
> think that's what you are describing as well.

Yes, sounds like it.  Thanks for contributing your experience.

> I'm using SHR-T.  The image is dated March 3rd, 2010.  I downloaded it and the
> "latest" kernel image at the same time on March 10th.  It is kernel version
> 2.6.29-rc3.  This is the most stable image I have run yet.  I tried doing some
> upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I reflashed the image.  With
> this image, I'm probably down to only having this type of freeze maybe once
> every 2 weeks or so.

FWIW, it's much more frequent than that for me.

I haven't done a careful survey of incidence with various kernels, but
I'm sure I've seen this freeze with all of the following, and usually
within only a few hours of use.
- Timo's "-moredrivers" kernel
- the current Debian 2.6.29 openmoko-gta02 kernel
- the SHR-T kernel from mid January 2010.

Regards,
  Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Neil Jerram]

On 15 April 2010 06:17, Martin Jansa  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:27:36AM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
>> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install xf86-video-fbdev
>> Collected errors:
>>  * Cannot find package xf86-video-fbdev.
>>
>> Is that SHR just too old, would you say?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry, I was sure only for SHR-U not SHR-T..
> I've built it in SHR-T feeds now too.

Thanks Martin.  I'll have a go again with that over the weekend.

  Neil

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Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork

[Tim Abell]

i happen to think it's an interesting discussion. you are of course free 
to unsubscribe.

(or set up your mail filter lists into a different folder, and use a 
threaded view, then ignore threads that aren't interesting to you - I'd 
be happy to help you do this)

xx

Tim

jeremy jozwik wrote:
> for craps sake stop filling my mailbox with this nonsense!
>
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Re: Triggering Literki from command line?

[Jens Seidel]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:43:09PM +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> 2010/4/16 Neil Jerram :
> > literki &
> >
> > But is that what you meant?
> 
> He certainly meant unhiding the keyboard of already running literki process.

In this case I'm sure xwit can do it. It allows access to many basic X
functions, see xwit(1).

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Re: project customers

[Kosa]

I ain't no expert on this, but since iPad is being a succesful "mobil
device", we could give a chance for a BIGGER Freerunner. Of course iPad
won't sell as many pices as the iPhone has, but 400k seems good for a
start. There's a huge market for the big touchscreen devices.

What about trying to do some changes here and there to put a bigger
screen (and a much bigger battery) on it. Most common linux apps would
fit on that. Debian works great on the FR right know, and a bigger
screen might be a killer spec 'couse almost every app would run with no
changes needed.

As I said, I ain't no expert, but you take glamo off, fix #1024, get a
bigger screen and battery and leave everithing else as it is and you
have a tremendous chance of succes. I would just add stereo speakers :p
 as in Neo 1973

AFAIK tangogps is THE killer app on the Freerunner, and it would be
great to have a bigger screen for a gps device. It could even fit as a
co-pilot for the car, as gps, phone, music, movies & news player. It
won't fit on the bike, but I would have his little brother for that. :)

We might face the 3g problem, but AFAIR just one of the 3 iPad models
includes 3g, so it is not a most. Not even for GTA03 nor GTA02-Core

I guess a bigger device is easier to build BTW.

Just a thought.

Kosa

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Werner Almesberger escribió:
> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> if it's hard to communicate - you don't have a sales point.
> 
> Yup, that's why I wouldn't belabour that angle for now. Whether and
> when the time for selling on open software alone will come depends
> on how constrained people feel with the non-open choices, and how
> many indirect benefits they get.
> 
> For now, I'll be happy with the niche of project customers who need
> to tweak the hardware or who already understand why they cannot
> afford a closed system.
> 
> That said, such a phone wouldn't have to be free from appeal to the
> mass market. It should definitely be as attractive as possible, but
> within reason.
> 
>> sure - but it seems those project customers want to feed off a stable supply
>> line
> 
> Stability is indeed crucial. I hope to be able to compensate with
> flexibility what we lack in sheer momentum. E.g., if you get, say,
> Motorola to make a design for you, and then Motorola decides to
> shut down or sell off that business unit, then you're left with
> pretty much nothing, no matter what your contracts say.
> 
> With an open design, no mattern what happens with the makers of it,
> you still have the design - down to the last detail - and most of
> the information needed to produce it. You may still fail to recover
> from a breakdown in your supply, but your chances are vastly better.
> 
> Also, since the supply is likely to be spread over multiple
> companies and individuals (who, in the Open world, enjoy a great
> deal of mobility) catastrophic failures that wipe out everything
> are less likely.
> 
> Now, it remains to be seen whether prospective project customers
> will agree with these arguments or whether they prefer to stick
> with the traditional view and try to partner with companies that
> are too big to fail.
> 
> In terms of numbers, I think cost levels out pretty well already
> at only a few kunits. If you're competing on the last 5%, you're
> already in the wrong game.
> 
>> i know that to you, or to many
>> freedom advocates all this "fancy eyecandy, sexy design, high end components
>> etc." seems all irrelevant
> 
> Heh, yet here I am, still using my sleek little Samsung X-830 as
> my daily phone, while keeping the ugly pucks in the lab :)
> 
> The thing with bleeding edge components is that they cost you a
> lot (in various ways) at very little gain. Yes, you may get that
> extra push for today's fashionable effect, but by the time you
> hit the market, fashion will have changed. Better find your own
> style that doesn't come from the manuals of the Gigahertz war :-)
> 
> - Werner
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Re: [QtMoko] Debian package for v21

[Vincent Meurisse]

On Thursday 15 April 2010 09:29:15 Yoric Kotchukov wrote:
> Thank you. And what to do with the contents of /opt/qtmoko, delete?
Don't touch it. The installation of the package will simply override the old 
files.

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Re: [QtMoko] Debian package for v21

[Vincent Meurisse]

On Friday 16 April 2010 18:42:06 Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> Can those be used to install Qt Extended Improved / QtMoko on top of
> normal Debian? 
I don't think so, but I never tried. This would probably need some work.
Steps to install QtMoko from a plain debian are described here 
. 
The current package automate some steps but not everything.


> Or any plans on properly packaging Qt Extended Improved
> to Debian?
I depend on what you call properly.
If it's building the package from source, I want to do it for so long that I 
don't do promises anymore. I hope my new computer will not make 4hours of 
horrible fan noise when compiling QtMoko so I will be able to work again on 
it.
If it's simply improve improve the existing package so they can be installed 
on top of a plain Debian, I plan to release the current build script. That 
way, everybody will be able to improve it.

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Re: Triggering Literki from command line?

[Timo Jyrinki]

2010/4/16 Neil Jerram :
> literki &
>
> But is that what you meant?

He certainly meant unhiding the keyboard of already running literki process.

-Timo

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Re: [QtMoko] Debian package for v21

[Timo Jyrinki]

2010/4/14 Vincent Meurisse :
> Debian package for QtMoko v21 are ready. Instruction for update are located at
> .

Can those be used to install Qt Extended Improved / QtMoko on top of
normal Debian? Or any plans on properly packaging Qt Extended Improved
to Debian?

Just asking out of curiosity, and if anyone is working on that.

-Timo

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Re: QtMoko development guide link

[Aditya Gandhi]

Thanks a lot man,will try soon

On 4/16/10, Radek Polak  wrote:
> On Friday 16 April 2010 15:12:06 Aditya Gandhi wrote:
>
>> Oh I forgot to ask what ide can I use, I mean obviously not the QT
>> provided
>> by nokia,
>> which one would I need?
>
> I use QtCreator from Nokia. First i develop the application on PC and then
> just port it to qtmoko.
>
> You can use for example src/applications/3rdparty/qmplayer as template.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [qtmoko] v19 v21 kernel cfg file

[Radek Polak]

On Friday 16 April 2010 16:27:49 Alfa21-mobile wrote:

> radek (or anyone else) can you give me the kernel cfg used to build v19 +
> 21 versions? give me two urls, pastebin is ok too.

http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/neo/linux_kernel/gta02_qtmoko_2.6.29_config
http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/lin2632/devices/neo/linux_kernel/gta02_qtmoko_2.6.32_config

Regards

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[qtmoko] v19 v21 kernel cfg file

[Alfa21-mobile]

radek (or anyone else) can you give me the kernel cfg used to build v19 + 21 
versions?
give me two urls, pastebin is ok too.
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Re: QtMoko development guide link

[Radek Polak]

On Friday 16 April 2010 15:12:06 Aditya Gandhi wrote:

> Oh I forgot to ask what ide can I use, I mean obviously not the QT provided
> by nokia,
> which one would I need?

I use QtCreator from Nokia. First i develop the application on PC and then 
just port it to qtmoko.

You can use for example src/applications/3rdparty/qmplayer as template.

Regards

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Re: QtMoko development guide link

[Aditya Gandhi]

Hi Thanks for the quick reply,

I plan to develope joystick app for moko, using accelerator and Touch screen
make a joypad for pc based on wifi/bluetooth

Oh I forgot to ask what ide can I use, I mean obviously not the QT provided
by nokia,
which one would I need?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Aditya Gandhi 
> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I wish to start developing apps for qtmoko, is there a link or steps to
> what
> > I need to install and how to start.
>
> Great!!
>
> I think you could start with
> http://qtmoko.org/wiki/GITs
> and
> http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README
>
> And ask here for more help, if you need.
>
> What's in your plans?
>
> Good luck!
>
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Josh Thompson  writes:
> Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on 
> the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery 
> contacts. 

echo s3c2410_wdt >> /etc/modules
sudo modprobe s3c2410_wdt
sudo apt-get install watchdog

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Re: QtMoko development guide link

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Aditya Gandhi  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I wish to start developing apps for qtmoko, is there a link or steps to what
> I need to install and how to start.

Great!!

I think you could start with
http://qtmoko.org/wiki/GITs
and
http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README

And ask here for more help, if you need.

What's in your plans?

Good luck!

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Josh Thompson]

Timo,

Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on 
the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery contacts. 
:)

Thanks,
Josh

On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Neil Jerram  writes:
> > Does anyone else see this?
> 
> I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that
> started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521
> 
> > If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
> > on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
> 
> What kernel?
> 
> > Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
> > pulling out the battery?
> 
> Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
> wear less :-)
> 
> 
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

[Josh Thompson]

I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge case 
hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it.  In my case, 
I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something I do that is 
graphics related that causes the freeze.  It's never something repeatable, but 
it is always something related to the contents of the screen being updated.  I 
think that's what you are describing as well.

I've not reported it before because it is so random and difficult to debug.  I 
do software development professionally and know how hard it is to help someone 
with a problem that can't be intentionally reproduced.

I'm using SHR-T.  The image is dated March 3rd, 2010.  I downloaded it and the 
"latest" kernel image at the same time on March 10th.  It is kernel version 
2.6.29-rc3.  This is the most stable image I have run yet.  I tried doing some 
upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I reflashed the image.  With 
this image, I'm probably down to only having this type of freeze maybe once 
every 2 weeks or so.

I've never tried fbdev.

If anyone of the devs have some suggestions as to how to try to debug this, 
I'd be happy to try.  Maybe a script that periodically gathers and saves some 
data that can be reviewed after rebooting?

Josh Thompson

On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
> I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no
> one else said that they see similar problems.  This time I'll try to
> be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response.
> 
> Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of
> fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and
> buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in.  My only recourse is to
> pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then
> be corrupting the filesystem.
> 
> It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular
> action.  Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting
> up:
> - boot up and wait for UI to appear
> - click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard
> - click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm
> - freeze.
> On other occasions, that same sequence works find.  Some times the
> freeze happens after a day or more of use.
> 
> I see this in Debian, which is my main distro.  I also see it whenever
> I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being
> able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
> fbdev.)
> 
> Does anyone else see this?
> If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
> on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
> Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
> pulling out the battery?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
>  Neil
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Re: Triggering Literki from command line?

[Michal Brzozowski]

2010/4/16, Alex Teiche :
> Hey everyone, is there a way to make literki pop up from the command
> line?  I want it to happen from within a shell script.  Hackable:1
> does it somehow, but I can't figure it out from the source code.
>
> Thanks!

Sorry, it's not possible. It shouldn't be hard to implement, but I'm
traveling for another couple of months so can't help you.

If you feel like hacking literki, the best way to do it is by sending
an X event I think.

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QtMoko development guide link

[Aditya Gandhi]

Hi guys,

I wish to start developing apps for qtmoko, is there a link or steps to what
I need to install and how to start.

Here is what I think,

On Ubuntu/Kubuntu
I need to install QTCreator for linux
I need to install some toolchain to crosscompile
Some packaging stuff fot debian

Please tell me what toolchain?

Thanks
Aditya
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Re: Triggering Literki from command line?

[Neil Jerram]

On 16 April 2010 05:10, Alex Teiche  wrote:
> Hey everyone, is there a way to make literki pop up from the command
> line?  I want it to happen from within a shell script.  Hackable:1
> does it somehow, but I can't figure it out from the source code.

literki &

But is that what you meant?

 Neil

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Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?

[Radek Polak]

On Thursday 15 April 2010 20:24:17 Margo wrote:

> And if I want to use tangogps I click "Turn on GPS" in Devtools menu.
> The  /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh script is not executed
> automatically when I run tangogps. Should it be?

No in QX the script is not used - it directly opens the file an writes 1 to it 
if you enable the checkbox for GPS. But the path is there wrong there too most 
likely. I'll make sure for next release that the paths are ok.

Regards

Radek

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