Re: QtMoko development guide link
Hi do I need to download Qt for Open Source C++ development on Embedded Linux for building apps on qtmoko? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Aditya Gandhi wrote: > Thanks a lot man,will try soon > > On 4/16/10, Radek Polak wrote: > > On Friday 16 April 2010 15:12:06 Aditya Gandhi wrote: > > > >> Oh I forgot to ask what ide can I use, I mean obviously not the QT > >> provided > >> by nokia, > >> which one would I need? > > > > I use QtCreator from Nokia. First i develop the application on PC and > then > > just port it to qtmoko. > > > > You can use for example src/applications/3rdparty/qmplayer as template. > > > > Regards > > > > Radek > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtMoko - application development
Hi, here is my guide to developing application for QtMoko. It describes how i do it myself, you can be of course comfortable doing it differently. If i write new application for QtMoko - i do it in two steps. 1/ develop it first on PC in QtCreator. It runs as normal Qt/X11. During this step you'll have code completion and integrated debugger. 2/ port it to QtMoko Prerequisities * download and install QT SDK from nokia (http://qt.nokia.com/downloads) and choose "Qt SDK for Linux/X11" - choice of 32bit or 64bit is on you. * download and build QtMoko from sources. Howto is here: http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README Step 1 - develop on PC * you can start new QT application, or open existing one from QtMoko git. Good example is QMplayer in src/3rdparty/application/qmplayer. You can open the project file from QtCreator and it should work when you compile and launch it. Step 2 - port to QtMoko * you have your app running on PC. Now you need to write project file for qtmoko. It's called qbuild.pro QMplayer is also good example. * build ARM binary for QtMoko. In your app directory do: /home/radek/qte/build/bin/qbuild * now you have binary for qtmoko copy it to neo: scp /home/radek/qte/build/src/3rdparty/applications/qmplayer/qmplayer r...@192.168.0.202:/ * test it ssh r...@192.168.0.202 source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env cd / ./qmplayer * congratulations if you got here * for making qtmoko package /home/radek/qte/build/bin/qbuild packages * for making online download repository you need packages.list file. Go to the dir with *.qpk of your app and do: /home/radek/qte/qtmoko/bin/mkPackages Some useful notes * if your package does not have qtmoko look and feel, place it in sub folder of qtmoko git - e.g. qtmoko apps directory is best place. * for qtopia api see really great html documentation in doc/html/index.hml * dont use quicklaunch in qbuild.pro if you want to produces application binary. Otherwise compiling produces just .so. Maybe it could be nice If someone wants to put this info on wiki. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko development guide link
On Monday 19 April 2010 09:49:20 Aditya Gandhi wrote: > Hi do I need to download > Qt for Open Source C++ development on Embedded Linux for building apps on > qtmoko? I just wrote mail about developing apps, it should help: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-April/061448.html Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:31:51PM -0800, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Thanks to an unknown contributer (googlecode hides email ids) - ventura > has had a few usability improvements for finger scrolling, pg up, pg down, > pg left and pg right buttons. > I've updated the repository so the newer version should hit the feeds > soon. For those not willing to wait here is an ipk > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4905070/ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk > ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk . > > As ususal, feedback is welcome. Hi Firstly, thanks for creating Ventura; I use it every day. My feedback is that I preferred the version without these modifications. I liked the uncluttered screen before and the menu button was larger and easier to use with my fingers. Also, I don't like that fact that more of the web page is now obscured by icons. Cheers Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
On Monday 19 April 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: > On 17 April 2010 00:20, Neil Jerram wrote: > > On 15 April 2010 00:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > >> Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts > >> wear less :-) > > > > Thanks, I'm doing that now. Must switch back to glamo to see if it works > > now... > > Perhaps interestingly... I switched back to glamo, and before very > long I got a freeze again - and the watchdog didn't do anything. That > is, it didn't cause the phone to reboot, and the phone stayed frozen > for at least 10 minutes, until I decided to pull out the battery. > > Is it possible that the watchdog userspace process would not notice > the freeze? If not, does that mean that my kernel must have frozen > too? > > Thanks for any further ideas! Watchdog hardware usually works by causing a reset if it doesn't get poked in a given time interval. Since there's a kernel driver involved I assume that's the case here. If the freeze, be it kernel or user space, stops the watchdog being poked then you get a restart. You may be seeing the kernel continue while the glamo freezes. Or I may be making the wrong assumptions about how this watchdog works ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
Al Johnson writes: > Watchdog hardware usually works by causing a reset if it doesn't get poked in > a given time interval. Since there's a kernel driver involved I assume that's > the case here. If the freeze, be it kernel or user space, stops the watchdog > being poked then you get a restart. You may be seeing the kernel continue > while the glamo freezes. Or I may be making the wrong assumptions about how > this watchdog works ;-) Yes you need to configure the userland watchdog to do something useful. Like check that you have no processes in disk sleep (D) state and that SSH server is running etc. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades
Hi, Ben Thompson-3 wrote: > > I liked the uncluttered screen before and the menu button was larger and > easier to use with my fingers. Also, I don't like that fact that more > of the web page is now obscured by icons. > I've been thinking of moving the buttons to the top of the screen - seeing that most websites have the topmost part without any links. I think the pg dn and pg up buttons actually make scrolling a lot simpler since the openmoko's graphics subsystem can't really cope up with the scrolling. Actually, the edj file can be improved to hide the buttons when not in use. Perhaps someone with greater edj experience can help. I'll update the edj file soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ventura-upgrades-tp4905082p4924741.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: project customers
On Saturday 17 April 2010 11:49 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > http://www.google.pt/search?q=olpc+tablet > It's would be a real killer if it has a reflexive screen like XO-1 and > XO-1.5 >* low energy requirements when backlight is off >* visible even with direct sunlight >* color! (well, I don't know if reflexive mode can support it, in > current XO's it can't Seen the NotionInk Adam. Just google it. Specially check out videos. Regards, Vibhav Sharma ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 179, Issue 23
first, there is iE the iphone, which could run a open linux, so they had to create drivers for it (what could make it possible for the ipad? may because of similiar hw?) second, apple's devices are based on freebsd - then maybe it's just necessary to change the interface. linux-sw works normaly without great problems on bsd.. of course, at least the second reason isn't fully opensource (because of the drivers) and i don't know if it's possible this way. just my ideas (in my very overtired head :) ) --- Alfa21 schrieb am Samstag 17 April 2010: 2010-04...@10:28 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > Won't work. One word why: drivers. > > You'll always produce a sub-standard alternative to the official OS that > comes with the device. > > Rui yeah...and producers of closed hw like apple can (and they will do) change the firmware or some chip without notice (keeping the final product nearly the same) and you are out because those changes are not (at least fully) documented. you (we) can only guess what was affected between revisions but it's impossible to get the full scenario of the changes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
> Yes you need to configure the userland watchdog to do something > useful. Like check that you have no processes in disk sleep (D) state > and that SSH server is running etc. Which watchdog daemon would that be, and hos do you configure it. The only ones I've seen were trivial (like busybox's) and didn't seem to come with any way to do such useful checks. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: project customers
Em 19-04-2010 13:49, Vibhav Sharma escreveu: > On Saturday 17 April 2010 11:49 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >> http://www.google.pt/search?q=olpc+tablet >> It's would be a real killer if it has a reflexive screen like XO-1 and >> XO-1.5 >>* low energy requirements when backlight is off >>* visible even with direct sunlight >>* color! (well, I don't know if reflexive mode can support it, in >> current XO's it can't > Seen the NotionInk Adam. Just google it. Specially check out videos. Seemed interesting until I read it uses NVidia Tigra. Not anymore. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 179, Issue 23
Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > first, there is iE the iphone, which could run a open linux, so they had to > create drivers for it (what could make it possible for the ipad? may because > of similiar hw?) > > second, apple's devices are based on freebsd aren't they based on darwin? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Freerunner for sale...
Hello. It's a A7 Freerunner? What is the price? -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
Stefan Monnier writes: > Which watchdog daemon would that be It's the normal one that everyone's been using since 1996 :-) $ apt-cache show watchdog Package: watchdog Priority: extra Section: admin Installed-Size: 296 Maintainer: Michael Meskes Architecture: amd64 Version: 5.8-1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, makedev (>= 2.3.1-24) | udev, lsb-base (>= 3.2-14) Filename: pool/main/w/watchdog/watchdog_5.8-1_amd64.deb Size: 82278 MD5sum: 55a47d716655a19d231fccbbe9f1095a SHA1: f5d9d9ab33f5127c3699b5b0e46efd5ec7d9700f SHA256: 27188ae9c2ae83ed87712479b912b73253dcae666d50c4873d5127ef62310442 Description: A software watchdog The watchdog program writes to /dev/watchdog every ten seconds. If the device is opened but not written to within a minute, the machine will reboot. This feature is available when the kernel is built with 'software watchdog' support (standard in Debian kernels). . The ability to reboot will depend on the state of the machine and interrupts. Homepage: http://watchdog.sourceforge.net Tag: interface::daemon, role::program, use::monitor >, and hos do you configure it. $ cat /home/share/neo/2010-03-13/etc/watchdog.conf #ping = 172.31.14.1 #ping = 172.26.1.255 #interface = eth0 #file = /var/log/messages file= /etc/fstab #change = 1407 # Uncomment to enable test. Setting one of these values to '0' disables it. # These values will hopefully never reboot your machine during normal use # (if your machine is really hung, the loadavg will go much higher than 25) max-load-1 = 24 max-load-5 = 18 max-load-15 = 12 # Note that this is the number of pages! # To get the real size, check how large the pagesize is on your machine. #min-memory = 1 #repair-binary = /usr/sbin/repair #test-binary= #test-timeout = watchdog-device = /dev/watchdog # Defaults compiled into the binary #temperature-device = #max-temperature= 120 # Defaults compiled into the binary #admin = root #interval = 10 #logtick= 1 # This greatly decreases the chance that watchdog won't be scheduled before # your machine is really loaded realtime= yes priority= 1 # Check if syslogd is still running by enabling the following line #pidfile= /var/run/syslogd.pid pidfile = /var/run/dropbear.pid watchdog-timeout= 42 -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
>> Which watchdog daemon would that be > It's the normal one that everyone's been using since 1996 :-) Duh! Thanks for making me finally see the obvious, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Freerunner for sale...
> It's a A7 Freerunner? > What is the price? according to his mail, you need to contact him directly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Freerunner for sale...
Sorry, was a mistake. 2010/4/19 arne anka > > It's a A7 Freerunner? > > What is the price? > > according to his mail, you need to contact him directly. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Battery lifetime
Hallo. I have a freerunner a7 and I bought it 3 months ago. The battery lifetime is too short... I mean, when I use it as regular computer, a full charged battery with suspends e.t.c. takes almost two days to discharge. But when I insert sim card and I use it as shell phone with 2-3 short phone calls, a full charged battery with suspends e.t.c. takes 18 hours to discharge. So every day I have to change it again and many times in the midday. Where is very small difference on battery discharge between suspended and not suspended. I use QtMoko for OS. Is this issue common on small computers? Thank you... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery lifetime
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Alex Theotokatos wrote: > But when I insert sim card and I use it as shell phone with 2-3 short > phone calls, a full charged battery with suspends e.t.c. takes 18 > hours to discharge. i only get that kind of battery life if im using gps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko development guide link
Thanks A lot mate On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 09:49:20 Aditya Gandhi wrote: > > > Hi do I need to download > > Qt for Open Source C++ development on Embedded Linux for building apps on > > qtmoko? > > I just wrote mail about developing apps, it should help: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-April/061448.html > > Regards > > Radek > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: project customers
Al Johnson escribió: > On Sunday 18 April 2010, Juergen Schinker wrote: >>> won't fit on the bike, but I would have his little brother for that. :) >> Ha why should it not fit on a Bike? Show me how you safely mount the >> little brother on your bike! I still haven't found a usable solution. > > I made a mount using polymorph (low-melting plastic similar to nylon) while > others have made them by bending sheet plastics. There are photos in the > wiki. > The safe mount is the easy part. The hard part is the shade to make it > readable in the sun. A transreflective screen would really have helped with > this. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ http://blog.printf.net/articles/2008/08/11/an-openmoko-bike-ride cheers! Kosa -Un mundo mejor es posible - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades
Hello. Since I use ventura, my whole shr experience is much better. finally a decent web browser! before it was impossible to surf the internet with woosh or others. only dillo was usable for me, but with ventura i can finally go through https too. i find the pg buttons etc very useful. thanks a lot On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:31:51 +0200, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Thanks to an unknown contributer (googlecode hides email ids) - ventura > has had a few usability improvements for finger scrolling, pg up, pg > down, > pg left and pg right buttons. > I've updated the repository so the newer version should hit the feeds > soon. For those not willing to wait here is an ipk > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4905070/ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk > ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk . > > As ususal, feedback is welcome. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery lifetime
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:21:41 +0300 Alex Theotokatos wrote: > Hallo. > > I have a freerunner a7 and I bought it 3 months ago. > The battery lifetime is too short... > I mean, when I use it as regular computer, a full charged battery with > suspends e.t.c. takes almost two days to discharge. > But when I insert sim card and I use it as shell phone with 2-3 short > phone calls, a full charged battery with suspends e.t.c. takes 18 > hours to discharge. > So every day I have to change it again and many times in the midday. > Where is very small difference on battery discharge between suspended > and not suspended. > > I use QtMoko for OS. > Is this issue common on small computers? It's most likely this issue: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 If your freerunner has the fix applied you can activate calypso deep sleep as described on this page. It works for me. regards Florian > Thank you... > > signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko], opie
Hi there, http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Applications did anybody try to build opie apps (see link above) with latest qt (qtmoko)? -- rgrds, mobi phil being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] roadmap for v22 and later
Also: - Check the LED at the end of charging glows blue - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/qtmoko-roadmap-for-v22-and-later-tp4900239p4929301.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-launcher updated
Hi ,c_c me again:) Is there any (good) news about your very important tool? Greets Frank -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-launcher-updated-tp4773819p4929451.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
