Re: AW: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
On 06/07/2010 12:16 AM, Marvel Onwuka wrote: Hi Jeremy, I just checked. Its not supposed to ask you for user name and password. Please try the link below again. http://cgi.tu-harburg.de/~somo1774/survey/index.php?sid=19333newtest=Ylang=en https://nemo.strath.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=b8e741144bdd4387a7f04e5bd2c8d98aURL=http%3a%2f%2fcgi.tu-harburg.de%2f%7esomo1774%2fsurvey%2findex.php%3fsid%3d19333%26newtest%3dY%26lang%3den But it asks :) Office outlook web access. Delete all your cookies and try. Why not to use public (and non microsoft, heh) services to organize survey? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
But it asks :) I confirm! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:08:24 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hmm, I don't have a SIM-card in the phone. Is that going to be a problem? That can be - i tried with SIM and it was working. I also sometimes get this message when battery is very low - probably not enough power for modem. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:08:24 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hmm, I don't have a SIM-card in the phone. Is that going to be a problem? That can be - i tried with SIM and it was working. I also sometimes get this message when battery is very low - probably not enough power for modem. Indeed, the device itself can work on a voltage lower than the Calypso's minimum. I'm not sure if anyone has accurate measurements of that though. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AW: AW: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
So do I! :-) But it asks :) I confirm! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, new QtMoko images v24 are out! You can download from our sourceforge [1] or visit our homepage [2][3]. Now that I have been trying V24 for some days, I can confirm the following: 1. I now have good call volumes and no distortion after setting audio values via neocontrol and they are remembered across reboots if you use the save option. Very happy. 2. Power Management - does not detect current state .e.g. battery or AC. When AC plugged in, still says on battery - after suspend, state shows locked despite never going to lock. If one goes to lock and then unlocks, power mgmt still shows state as locked. Locked state goes to battery after attaching usb cable and charging starts. 3. Unfortunately and the biggest show stopper for me, is I am still experiencing sporadic GSM connectivity issues. This is not new though, afaik this started as an issue sometime after v16. It would be interesting to see if anyone else experiences these or knows a workaround. If you want me to provide logs or you want to give me step by step instructions for test cases, I'm happy to be a guinea pig to resolve these issues once and for all: - sometimes stays searching for network, multiple restart of QT does not clear it even when 3 bars or better are shown in signal meter on left. - sometimes after device reboot no network but then seems to connect, however sometimes shows signal and carrier but cannot establish outbound calls and inbound calls can't get through. Obviously same for SMS. - currently there does not appear to be any relationship to suspend cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
palm pre
Does anybody know if it is possible buy locked palm pre and install linux into? Will gsm or palm itself work or not? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: AW: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
On Monday 07 June 2010 10:05:21 Jörg König wrote: So do I! :-) But it asks :) I confirm! Mmmm i've just filled it, no user/passwprd for me. Using binary firefox 3.6.3 in debian stable signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: palm pre
Ask there for a start http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Jan_2010_-_%3F http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Install_FSO ++ GarthPS 2010/6/7 Chuck Norris norris.ch...@mail.ru Does anybody know if it is possible buy locked palm pre and install linux into? Will gsm or palm itself work or not? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
HackerSpace Lille(Fr) Support-Needed-Party
Hi Everyone, The Localhost (French HackerSpace in Lille, north of France) had some troubles. As the 3000m2 weren't officialy ours, the owner wants us to leave. (Thoug this place is unnoccupied for 4 years!). We suggested to take care of this place, building a co-working plac,e showroom, cattering so other social/technical projects (what we did) in exange of staying there. We were asked to leav by tuesday the 8th of June (tomorrow). That's the subject of the mail : we need people to come tonight (7pm) to that place ! Each of you who can be there will be a point owned over the leaving.(not sure of this sentence in english, sorry). So, here's the adress: Localhost, les Hauts Lieux, 10 rue des débris saint Etienne 59000 Lille, france. (it is in the really center of this town), for more info, mail me : thomas.hoce...@free.fr) Sorry for the annoyance, but our project worth it. Kindly regards, Asthro/Thomas HOCEDEZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Community Updates 2010-06-01 released!
Dnia 2010-06-02, śro o godzinie 19:53 +0200, Martix pisze: Hello, New issue of Community Updates is released: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-06-01 Thanks to following contributors: * Toams * Kukide * M4rtink * Marko Knöbl * Jama * Martix [cut] Thanks for your work guys! -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC patent application for Joerg's Y-cable?
Dnia 2010-06-05, sob o godzinie 13:08 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: It hasn't been granted yet, and the Y-cable was around before it was filed, but perhaps not by long enough. [cut] Should we be afraid of this patent? Is it used in FR? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Questions about the cpu to glamo bus and the framebuffer
Hi guys, 2 questions. First: How wide is the bus from the cpu to the glamo gpu? It should be clocked with 90 MHz but I read it has only 7,3 MB/s. How is that possible? Second: Can I draw directly to the framebuffer. Is it possible in qtmoko or in any other distro? I would to write a see programm that just draw directly into it. I would like to draw in first frame just every even line. And in the second frame only every odd line tosave bandwidth on the bus. I don't know if this the right mailing list to ask for it. But maybe you can help me :). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
Am 07.06.2010 00:16, schrieb Marvel Onwuka: Hi Jeremy, I just checked. Its not supposed to ask you for user name and password. Please try the link below again. http://cgi.tu-harburg.de/~somo1774/survey/index.php?sid=19333newtest=Ylang=en https://nemo.strath.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=b8e741144bdd4387a7f04e5bd2c8d98aURL=http%3a%2f%2fcgi.tu-harburg.de%2f%7esomo1774%2fsurvey%2findex.php%3fsid%3d19333%26newtest%3dY%26lang%3den Regards, Marvelous The problem with this link is that it is shown as http://cgi.tu-harburg.de/~somo1774/survey/index.php?sid=19333newtest=Ylang=en which works ok but the underlying link is https://nemo.strath.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=b8e741144bdd4387a7f04e5bd2c8d98aURL=http%3a%2f%2fcgi.tu-harburg.de%2f%7esomo1774%2fsurvey%2findex.php%3fsid%3d19333%26newtest%3dY%26lang%3den which leads to the microsoft office site where a username and password is needed. So just copy the text into the url and it works. But if you klick the link within the email client you will get to the wrong url. I only found it out because thunderbird was tagging this email as possible phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
possible phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link. who says it isn't? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the cpu to glamo bus and the framebuffer
Am 07.06.2010 12:37, schrieb Rashid Kratou: Hi guys, 2 questions. First: How wide is the bus from the cpu to the glamo gpu? It should be clocked with 90 MHz but I read it has only 7,3 MB/s. How is that possible? Second: Can I draw directly to the framebuffer. Is it possible in qtmoko or in any other distro? I would to write a see programm that just draw directly into it. I would like to draw in first frame just every even line. And in the second frame only every odd line tosave bandwidth on the bus. I don't know if this the right mailing list to ask for it. But maybe you can help me :). If you take a look at the schematics of the freerunner [1] on page 12 is the glamo multi media coprocessor (not just gpu) shown. It seems that the data bus is 16Bit wide with 23Bit address bus. It also seems to be hardwired to use internal PLL for clock generation so i don't know at which speed it runs. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
Am 07.06.2010 13:55, schrieb arne anka: possible phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link. who says it isn't? If it is than the initiator of the phishing attack is quite persistent to write more than one email to this list answering questions to link problems. But who knows. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC patent application for Joerg's Y-cable?
A Dilluns 07 Juny 2010 12:34:31, Patryk Benderz va escriure: Dnia 2010-06-05, sob o godzinie 13:08 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: It hasn't been granted yet, and the Y-cable was around before it was filed, but perhaps not by long enough. [cut] Should we be afraid of this patent? Is it used in FR? IANAL but it is'nt used on the FR. See yesterday irc openmoko-cdevel log for the opinion of Joerg (It starts near the begining at 18:28 http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/openmoko- cdevel.20100607.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Buzz/#1024/Bass-Rework = Headset Audio Quality Enhancement available in EU
because we have been asked: we continue to offer these rework services and the GTA02A7++ variant. Regards, Nikolaus Am 23.03.2010 um 10:42 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: just let me follow-up that we can ship A7++ devices by end of the week. They are originals from factory and we have applied #1024 and Bass-Rework (Buzz-Rework is not required for A7 units). Please look at http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner BR, Nikolaus Am 18.03.2010 um 14:39 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 18.03.2010 um 13:41 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: Is it possible to do bass-fix and 1024-fix on a device which had already been to Munchen to be buzz-fixed, or does it involve too many soldering operation to be reliable ? yes, no problem. All three reworks are done in very different areas of the device (Buzz is done at the Microphone; #1024 within the tin-can under the WLAN module and the Bass-Rework under the tin-can under the Bluetooth module). And therefore they can be done independently - or all together (which saves a lot of handling and shipment cost). And, they use professional equipment that does the least harm to the board that is possible. BR, Nikolaus Thanks for providing this service btw. Regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: The problem with this link is that it is shown as good hunting. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC patent application for Joerg's Y-cable?
On Monday 07 June 2010, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: A Dilluns 07 Juny 2010 12:34:31, Patryk Benderz va escriure: Dnia 2010-06-05, sob o godzinie 13:08 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: It hasn't been granted yet, and the Y-cable was around before it was filed, but perhaps not by long enough. [cut] Should we be afraid of this patent? Is it used in FR? IANAL but it is'nt used on the FR. The patent refers to the adapter not the device, See yesterday irc openmoko-cdevel log for the opinion of Joerg (It starts near the begining at 18:28 http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/openmoko- cdevel.20100607.txt Compare this comment from that log and the application's Claim 3: Jun 06 18:29:36 DocScrutinizer my y-cable doesn't need a conversion circuit and can inform the portable device that whether a power source is available and inform the portable device of connection status of the adapter through the data bus Jun 06 18:30:49 DocScrutinizer except if you define ID as a databus, and a resistor as a conversion circuit 3. The detachable adapter according to claim 2, wherein the host data bus is a universal serial bus (USB), and the connection status signal of the set of host bus signals is an ID signal of the USB. I'm no patent lawyer, but I think that's exactly what they're claiming. Other claims narrow it down to using a voltage on the id pin, or a resistance value, and making these switchable depending on what's plugged in. It only seems overly complicated because it's expressed in legalese rather than engineering terms. As Joerg says, I don't think it should be worthy of a patent. Unfortunately courts in the US have been progressively lowering the obviousness bar to the point where it's patentable unless someone has explicitly described it already before the priority date. It's not just software patents that are broken that side of the pond. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC patent application for Joerg's Y-cable?
Em 07-06-2010 16:00, Al Johnson escreveu: As Joerg says, I don't think it should be worthy of a patent. Unfortunately courts in the US have been progressively lowering the obviousness bar to the point where it's patentable unless someone has explicitly described it already before the priority date. It's not just software patents that are broken that side of the pond. And it's not just on the US either, particularly in Germany where recent developments are, to say the least, very troubling. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[wikireader] Project Gutenberg (again)
Dear all,
after taking a rather longish break, I'm back working on my project
gutenberg integration code. This message consists of three parts: in the
first part, I quickly describe what it is all about. The second part
contains a number of technical questions, and the third part talks about
bugs in wiki-app.
All code is available at gitorious:
git://gitorious.org/wikireader-ness/wikireader-ness2.git
What this is all about:
My idea is that akin to wikipedia, project gutenberg provides a large
collection of free data that may be nice carrying in your pocket. So I
have been working on extending the offline-render to also process ebooks
in EPUB format.
To quickly see what this is about, try
make DESTDIR=image WORKDIR=work WIKI_FILE_PREFIX=wiki WIKI_LANGUAGE=en
WIKI_DIR_SUFFIX=guten EBOOK_FILES=ebook-samples VERBOSE=yes cleandirs
createdirs birc
There is some more functionality on which I can elaborate if anyone is
interested, but this is basically it.
You have to harvest the ebooks yourself, but I can provide scripts for
project gutenberg, and also for project gutenberg-de.
Technical Questions:
1) Is there a deep reason why boldface fonts are not implemented? I
figure they are not really relevant for wikis, but would be nice for
some of the books. Unless there is something that complicates the matter
I'm not seeing, I think I will add them (should be straightforward to
mimic the behaviour of italic fonts?).
2) Could you please add the characters U+2039 and U+203A ('SINGLE
LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK' and right-pointing version) to the
font? They are used quite often in some books and the box just looks
ugly. Again I would do this myself but there seem to be a number of
intermediate stages in font generation that I don't really understand.
3) Is it possible that the english language image on
dev.thewikireader.org is corrupted? When I try to extract it with 7z x
enpedia.7z I get a cryptic Error: E_FAIL message. (I'm running
standard 7z of debian testing, version 9.04 beta.)
Bugs in wiki-app:
I believe that in the course of writing and testing my extensions, I
have fixed some minor bugs in the core wiki-app code. My changes are
very small and isolated, so the maintainers of the main repository may
wish to look at these files only.
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Hi, On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:08:24 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hmm, I don't have a SIM-card in the phone. Is that going to be a problem? That can be - i tried with SIM and it was working. I also sometimes get this message when battery is very low - probably not enough power for modem. I think it's the battery. I tried it with the battery from my FR, and then the Neo 1973 works (without SIM card). Here is the output with the FR battery: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent PHYSDEVPATH=/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/gta01_battery PHYSDEVBUS=platform PHYSDEVDRIVER=gta01_battery POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4054000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-234000 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=92 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=85 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=739500 With the (broken?) 1973 battery it looks like this: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent PHYSDEVPATH=/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/gta01_battery PHYSDEVBUS=platform PHYSDEVDRIVER=gta01_battery POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4183000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-287000 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=85 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=85 Also, the battery in the 1973 have a bulge to it now. :-) Perhaps best if I don't use it at all. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo 1973 - how to figure out if the battery is broken?
Update: I tested the Neo 1973 with the battery from my FR - and it works properly then. Also, the battery in my 1973 is bulging - I think it is safe to aasume it is broken. :-) On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fiwrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com writes: Mainly because it runs out very quickly. :-) Wasn't that a feature in 1973? ;) What's the consumption (=current_now) right after resume? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo 1973 - new battery?
Where can I find a new battery for my Neo 1973? It is better if it is cheap, and it must charge in the phone. So I guess BL-5C's are a no-go. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo 1973 - new battery?
Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com writes: Where can I find a new battery for my Neo 1973? It is better if it is cheap, and it must charge in the phone. So I guess BL-5C's are a no-go. The easiest option would be to solder a ~12k resistor between ID pin and the ground right to the backside of the battery connector, imho. That way you'll make all nokia batteries compatible with gta01's charger. I tried modifying a battery but it was too hard for me and it doesn't work at all now. HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] Project Gutenberg (again)
Hi Tom
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Tom Bachmann e_mc...@web.de wrote:
Dear all,
after taking a rather longish break, I'm back working on my project
gutenberg integration code.
Excellent!
[snip]
Technical Questions:
1) Is there a deep reason why boldface fonts are not implemented? I
figure they are not really relevant for wikis, but would be nice for
some of the books. Unless there is something that complicates the matter
I'm not seeing, I think I will add them (should be straightforward to
mimic the behaviour of italic fonts?).
They are implemented. We just didn't include them to save space. (Font
sets are super huge when you include all the unicode characters!)
If you look at the function handle_data within
http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader/blob/master/host-tools/offline-renderer/ArticleRenderer.py
you'll see what I mean.
2) Could you please add the characters U+2039 and U+203A ('SINGLE
LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK' and right-pointing version) to the
font? They are used quite often in some books and the box just looks
ugly. Again I would do this myself but there seem to be a number of
intermediate stages in font generation that I don't really understand.
Sure we can do this. No problem! The font is getting more and more
complex since we actually hand make many of the characters now.
3) Is it possible that the english language image on
dev.thewikireader.org is corrupted? When I try to extract it with 7z x
enpedia.7z I get a cryptic Error: E_FAIL message. (I'm running
standard 7z of debian testing, version 9.04 beta.)
Very possible. I'm out of town now, but I'll check with the engineers
when I return later this week.
Bugs in wiki-app:
I believe that in the course of writing and testing my extensions, I
have fixed some minor bugs in the core wiki-app code. My changes are
very small and isolated, so the maintainers of the main repository may
wish to look at these files only.
Great. I'll ask our lead engineer (Chris) to check out your stuff.
Sean
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iPhone 4G display for Openmoko?
Hi all, with the new iPhone it is for the first time better in display resolution (640x960 on 3''5 = 326 dpi) than the Freerunner (640x480 on 2''8 = 283 dpi) with higher dots per inch. Does anyone know where to get such a display? Who is making them? Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
