Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into the same problem: az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah total 70G drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 . drwxrwxrwx 9 root root 4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm Error opening file! Error parsing file europe.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ does anyone else has that problem? it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be? Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system. - Bill Gates -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi yes have the same problem while trying to convert the France. I am wondering if it is not a matter of size...france and germany does quite the same size. I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :) But yes please someone help us on this error Error opening file! And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file because cat france.osm works for me. thanks! Sylvain (aka GarthPS) 2010/8/12 Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com Hi.. I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into the same problem: az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah total 70G drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 . drwxrwxrwx 9 root root 4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm Error opening file! Error parsing file europe.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ does anyone else has that problem? it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be? Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system. - Bill Gates -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
Am 11.08.2010 um 18:38 schrieb Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE): I've been wanting to try using my freerunner as a serial terminal to debug servers via serial. I've got a USB-serial adapter that H:1 recognizes and assigns to /dev/ttyUSB0. My problem is, minicom won't run because the shell screen is to small. Mickeyterm fails to find a bunch of python modules and things via dbus. I've even tried cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 but it says the line is busy. Anyone know of a serial terminal program that does work on H:1? I use mterm2. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :) I was under the impression that we need the continent boundary so that the map for the countries can be made.. Error opening file! And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file because cat france.osm works for me. I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name.. but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on the website) and it gave the same error.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
It could very helpfull if Mike Crash or those whom succeded in making map like Davide Scaini could bive us some informations.. 2010/8/12 Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com Hi.. I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :) I was under the impression that we need the continent boundary so that the map for the countries can be made.. Error opening file! And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file because cat france.osm works for me. I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name.. but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on the website) and it gave the same error.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi, When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? Regards Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi I don't think anytime soon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko#Canceled_devices Regards, Nashvin On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, RANJAN infi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? Regards Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi, Hello, there (-= When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? As soon as you design it? I've heard that some people are looking at taking the openmoko core project and trying to apply it to better hardware. There were some offers to use production facilities and such, but I wouldn't hold my breath. But it would be nice. Regards Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] how to work on a theme
Petr Vanek wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it (J) wrote: Hi folks! I would like to improve the theme I made ( http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-new-theme-tp 5333298.html finximod ) but it is real a pain to work on the fly on the neo freerunner... You know, connecting the moko via usb, rebooting it more times... There is a way to try a qtmoko theme without the neo and on a pc? Maybe a virtualization? I thinked about QEMU, but it is possible to use it with qtmoko? yes, see here: http://qtmoko.org/wiki/GITs You can also mount NFS for /opt with qtopia directory on your PC and avoid transfering filies. Or you can use SSHFS to mount Freerunner's filesystem on your PC. For rebooting - you can start/stop just qtopia: source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env /etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on; qpe Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi Sriranjan, as far as i know, openmoko is no longer working on phones. Unfortunately the freedom loving people are doomed to either work on anti-vendor-ports (such as HTC devices etc.) or live with one of the semi-free alternatives (Palm Pre, Nokia N900). Right now there is no device rivaling the FreeRunner's openness, nothing comes close. I don't see that changing soon. Cheers, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) john@ge.com writes: recognizes and assigns to /dev/ttyUSB0. My problem is, minicom won't run I prefer picocom. Tried that, but it's too small . . . Is there a microcom? (-= Actually, it works like a dream! I plugged my USB- serial adapter from my FR to an IBM server serial port, ran picocom and was able to log in. Only problem: The IBM expects the terminal to 80 char X 24 lines and the terminal on the FR is only 39 char X 24 lines. Guess I'll see how bad this limit really is when I NEED to use this. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) john@ge.com writes: Actually, it works like a dream! I plugged my USB- serial adapter from my FR to an IBM server serial port, ran picocom and was able to log in. Only problem: The IBM expects the terminal to 80 char X 24 lines and the terminal on the FR is only 39 char X 24 lines. My xterm on my FR offers much more characters :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
The other problem I've noticed with my H:1, if I try to rotate the screen from the AUX menu, I get the WSOD )-= A rotated screen should give me enough chars, but I don't know if it'd do 24 lines. -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Timo Juhani Lindfors Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:15 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) john@ge.com writes: Actually, it works like a dream! I plugged my USB- serial adapter from my FR to an IBM server serial port, ran picocom and was able to log in. Only problem: The IBM expects the terminal to 80 char X 24 lines and the terminal on the FR is only 39 char X 24 lines. My xterm on my FR offers much more characters :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi, az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah total 70G drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 . drwxrwxrwx 9 root root 4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm Error opening file! Error parsing file europe.osm az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building osm2mcmap - add these defines while building: CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure (usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64) This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail (somewhere around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the whole file into memory...) You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download precomputed boundary extract from http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3 and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too large to fit into memory space) Regards, Vlado does anyone else has that problem? it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be? Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:55:21 +0200 Dr. Michael Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Hi Sriranjan, as far as i know, openmoko is no longer working on phones. That does seem to be the case and it is a shame. Unfortunately the freedom loving people are doomed to either work on anti-vendor-ports (such as HTC devices etc.) or live with one of the semi-free alternatives (Palm Pre, Nokia N900). Right now there is no device rivaling the FreeRunner's openness, nothing comes close. I wouldn't necessarily color all ports of FOSS as anti-vendor. In fact don't they demonstrate the versatility and adaptability of FOSS in relation to all hardware, especially hardware that isn't open? That's a good thing if the goal is to strive towards choice for consumers. Granted it's not the ideal situation but it is a step in the right direction. I don't see that changing soon. Call me a glass half-full person but I have to disagree with you here. The fact that more ARM based mobile devices are becoming ubiquitous is going to drive prices down and will also drive innovation and quality up right? That's a good thing in my book, just as MS-DOS and Windows drove down the cost of hardware in the PC field. I do not however use or endorse Microsoft products but I do give them credit for helping to accelerate hardware development and make it more affordable. I'm not a lawyer and I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy but the international maze of patent and trade agreements must cost an absolute fortune to feed. It's ironic in a way, since the whole concept behind patents is to protect the inventor and allow them to recoup RD costs. It certainly wasn't envisioned as a means to create an unlimited cash cow that stifles innovation by threat of lawsuits which lead to bankruptcy. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the sort of thing people like us that champion openness argue against right? The only reason why FOSS exists and will continue to exist is because there's nobody to bankrupt or buy out. We already know FOSS pays in spades just ask Google, IBM, Redhat etc. So why haven't the hardware manufacturers figured this out yet? I think they've come to the conclusion that the status quo suits them just fine. Too bad, it's stories like this one that illustrate what open hardware can accomplish that inspire me: http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/vietnam804/video/video_index.html Industrial collusion can be dangerous; it isn't always a bad thing provided it's monitored, sanctioned, and most of all open. That story is inspiring mainly due to it's human interest aspect. I'd like to see this sort of collusion in industry especially in aspects that affect all of us like pollution, food production, medicine etc. It's still baffling to me that industry just doesn't get it yet. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On 12/08/10 13:12, RANJAN wrote: Hi, When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? Regards Sriranjan there are 2 projects working on a future open phone. GTA02-core http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core http://gta02-core-news.blogspot.com/ last thing i heard on the mailing list is that they plan to make a small number (something like 20), and were collecting names of people who wanted to buy them (costing more, than a freerunner, and with a low chance of being fully functional). basically good for devs. Openmoko Beagle Hybrid http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Beagle_Hybrid http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Beagle A board to attach a beagleboard to an openmoko phone. its not actually a functioning phone, but lets you design a software stack for a future openmoko type phone, with much faster hardware. note: i am not deeply involved, so i speak with no authority, but this is how i see it: the difficulty in making a working phone is the economies of scale. i think there were about 10k freerunners made, which is maybe of the order of 2 million dollar/euro. even then you can't compete with specs on mainstream phones. so you need someone willing to put up a lot of money to get going. hopefully the costs of hardware will continue to fall. opensource hardware is growing. if there are people working on designs, then all it takes is an investor and or benevolent, and it will be go again. it would be nice if someone could get an openphone foundation going to focus the effort. sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. On 08/12/2010 10:16 PM, Vladimir Koutny wrote: You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building osm2mcmap - add these defines while building: CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure (usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64) This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail (somewhere around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the whole file into memory...) Excellent pointer! thank you.. will have to look into those 64bit.. finally a reason to change! :D You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download precomputed boundary extract from http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3 and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too large to fit into memory space) Oh.. ic... though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the impression that we needed the continent boundary to do countries..? does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas? Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway - Andrew S. Tanenbaum -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com writes: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:55:21 +0200 Dr. Michael Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Unfortunately the freedom loving people are doomed to either work on anti-vendor-ports (such as HTC devices etc.) or live with one of the semi-free alternatives (Palm Pre, Nokia N900). Right now there is no device rivaling the FreeRunner's openness, nothing comes close. I wouldn't necessarily color all ports of FOSS as anti-vendor. In fact don't they demonstrate the versatility and adaptability of FOSS in relation to all hardware, especially hardware that isn't open? That's a good thing if the goal is to strive towards choice for consumers. Granted it's not the ideal situation but it is a step in the right direction. The term anti-vendor port initially struck me as a little odd, as well, but now I think that Mickey is using a fairly strict definition of anti-, meaning contrary to--with anti-vendor meaning contrary to the vendor or (more clearly) contrary to the wishes or actions of the vendor. -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
