Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-09-26 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
"Dr. Michael Lauer"  writes:
> 
> as far as i know, openmoko is no longer working on phones.
> 
> Unfortunately the freedom loving people are doomed to either work on
> anti-vendor-ports (such as HTC devices etc.) or live with one of the
> semi-free alternatives (Palm Pre, Nokia N900). Right now there is no 
> device rivaling the FreeRunner's openness, nothing comes close.
> 
> I don't see that changing soon.

Do you have any insights regarding Bluebird's `Pidion' devices
(beyond `wow, they're expensive' :))?

cf.: http://www.sdgsystems.com/

-- 
"Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr."

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Re: qtmoko v27

2010-09-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alex Samorukov  writes:
>> With http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/compare-clock-sources.pl

> Also it can compare only system clock with RTC, so we always assume

compare-clock-sources.pl compares

1) GPS to system time
2) GPS to pcf time
3) GPS to calypso time.

It does not compare system time with RTC.

> Calypso time - do we need it at all?

Probably not since it is reset so easily.

> It will not do circular buffer then.

Log rotation should do that?


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Re: dbus moving into kernel?

2010-09-26 Thread Treviño
Il giorno sab, 25/09/2010 alle 19.57 +0400, Gennady Kupava ha scritto:
> В Птн, 24/09/2010 в 15:11 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) пишет:
> 
> > Some days ago I've tried to port this patch to the Openmoko kernel,
> > after applying it to the SHR 2.6.32 kernel (patches at [1]), I got
> > these results (in average):
> > 
> > dbus-ping-pong test:
> > Pingdbus-daemon (s) kdbus (s)   speedup
> > 500 ping3.332.1336.2%
> > 5000 ping   32.59   26.09   19.9%
> > 5 ping  313.56  176.35  43.8%
> > 
> > 
> > Adrien Bustany’s ipc-performances tool with 6 random 10 char
> > strings:
> > 
> > dbus-daemon query (s)   kdbus query (s) speedup
> > 102.75  74.71   27.29%
> > 
> 
> Interesting, how adding FCSE will influence this dbus test?
> 

I've tried FCSE too, but I can't get a working kernel after patching...
I should retest.



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Re: qtmoko v27

2010-09-26 Thread Alex Samorukov
On 09/25/2010 10:45 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Alex Samorukov  writes:
>
>> Thank you for update. How did you measure this drift? Anyway, i don`t
>>  
> With http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/compare-clock-sources.pl
>
Thanks.

Also it can compare only system clock with RTC, so we always assume that 
system time is correct. Calypso time - do we need it at all?

I think right scenario is to get ntptime (slow op), and then - RTC + 
system, and compare them. Not sure that system clock is really accurate :)
>
>> hwclock changes are not important for qtmoko, because rtc driver
>> controls /dev/rtc elusively (its very easy to change, but i don`t
>> think that it needs to be changed).
>>  
> Hmm, what driver is that in qtmoko btw?
>
Not driver, daemon. atd from qpe.
>> Thank you, need to check. If it is - then its a serious argument
>> against this change. Do you know any other syslogd with in-memory
>> buffer?
>>  
> How about just using normal syslogd with tmpfs as storage?
>
It will not do circular buffer then.

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Re: [QtMoko] Translate into Danish

2010-09-26 Thread radek polak
Rune Gangstø wrote:

> I could be interested in translating into norwegian, is it possible for
> me to use the same files and just send them via e-mail when they are
> translated?

Hi, yes, it is possible.

Regards

Radek

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