Re: [Shr-User] [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
Joachim Ott wrote: > On 24 November 2010 11:15, Patryk Benderz wrote: > >> Dnia 2010-11-24, śro o godzinie 09:56 +0100, Thibaut Girka pisze: >> >>> Le mercredi 24 novembre 2010 à 09:18 +0100, Patryk Benderz a écrit : >>> Well, I do for example. Looking at the title of patent, it seems that 8pen is French based company. Following google hits I fount French patent office: http://www.inpi.fr/ But here after struggling for a while looking for English version, I decided to ask If any of you guys know French language and could help to find this patent (1058945 ) in patent office? >>> I'm French, and after a quick search, I couldn't find this patent. >>> Furthermore, I doubt INPI would accept this, it's about industrial >>> patents, we don't have things like software patents. >>> >>I made another attempt to look for this patent at http://www.epo.org/ >> and http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/index.jsp but failed here also. Any >> ideas where to find this patent? >>There is one more strangeness, looking at their schematic drawings, it >> looks like this patent application is not finished yet. Maybe they have >> not applied it yet? >> > > 1058945 is, as they stated on their page, an application number, not > yet a patent number. > > nb: when I was searching for patent claim "Dispositif de saisie de > signes comprenant une zone de base", I found another company > (swypeinc.com) that has patented an input method. > ___ > Patent applications are usually only made public 18 months after date of filing, therefore you can't find it on the online databases. Since the, apparently international, application is in French, most likely it will be searched at the European Patent Office. Some useful links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_application http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_participation_in_patent_examination In any case, someone posted in another mail that Quickwriting already has a patent pending. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
В Срд, 24/11/2010 в 20:11 +0300, Gennady Kupava пишет: > В Втр, 23/11/2010 в 20:41 +0100, David Garabana Barro пишет: > > > But this open an interesting question. > > Why is uSD partition card recognised with Qi and not with uboot? > > Maybe my I/O problems are also related to uboot? > > Will try to boot SHR from NAND with Qi, and see if my card stops givin > > I/O errors... > > Ah, kernel not recognise partition table, not u-boot fail to boot > kernel... Then answer is simple, - cat /proc/cmdline for both qi and > u-boot and check difference. > And you can't do cat /proc/cmdline as you can't boot, ok. So, check your u-boot environment for right cmdline. Example of environment (mine): http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/gpsfix/env/ it can be flashed with dfu-util -a u-boot_env -D u-boot_env.in4, or recompiled by ./envedit.pl -c 262144 -f environment.in > u-boot_env.in you have to change it to match your qi command line and it should work. Regards, Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
В Втр, 23/11/2010 в 20:41 +0100, David Garabana Barro пишет: > But this open an interesting question. > Why is uSD partition card recognised with Qi and not with uboot? > Maybe my I/O problems are also related to uboot? > Will try to boot SHR from NAND with Qi, and see if my card stops givin > I/O errors... Ah, kernel not recognise partition table, not u-boot fail to boot kernel... Then answer is simple, - cat /proc/cmdline for both qi and u-boot and check difference. Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:57, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > i'd invent a new input method that doesn't violate the patent. take the > principal and change it so its different enough not to violate. then implement > that. > They've just released version 1.1 for free (1.0 was 1.50 price). Could this mean something? :) -- Daniele ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
Dnia 2010-11-24, śro o godzinie 09:56 +0100, Thibaut Girka pisze: > Le mercredi 24 novembre 2010 à 09:18 +0100, Patryk Benderz a écrit : > > Well, I do for example. Looking at the title of patent, it seems that > > 8pen is French based company. Following google hits I fount French > > patent office: > > http://www.inpi.fr/ > > But here after struggling for a while looking for English version, I > > decided to ask If any of you guys know French language and could help to > > find this patent (1058945 ) in patent office? > > I'm French, and after a quick search, I couldn't find this patent. > Furthermore, I doubt INPI would accept this, it's about industrial > patents, we don't have things like software patents. I made another attempt to look for this patent at http://www.epo.org/ and http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/index.jsp but failed here also. Any ideas where to find this patent? There is one more strangeness, looking at their schematic drawings, it looks like this patent application is not finished yet. Maybe they have not applied it yet? Another fact is that they are decided to distribute their software for free: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Android-Input-App-8pen-Is-Now-Free-for-Download-166085.shtml http://www.coveringweb.info/2010/11/android-input-app-8pen-is-now-free-for.html -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:54, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > if you wish to not violate a patent.. you simply have to give > up on implementing the algorithm - or fight his patent in court first. > Very straight and plain... what would you do in my place? -- Daniele ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
