Fwd: [Hackable1-user] First beta version of the DeforaOS smartphone environment on hackable:1

2011-03-21 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Dear community,

hackable:1 is still alive, and even welcomed a new developer (hi Trim!)
Better, we are currently preparing another release of hackable:1, based
on the DeforaOS smartphone environment (details below).

A number of fixes and improvements made it to the beta since its
original announcement last week, including the long-awaited homescreen
support. Screenshot:
http://www.defora.org/os/download/download/3512/dse2-Screenshot-2.png

The current images are there:
http://build.hackable1.org/releases/dse2-beta/

Happy testing!
-- khorben

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Subject: First beta version of the DeforaOS smartphone environment on
hackable:1
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:11:51 +0100
From: Pierre Pronchery khor...@hackable1.org
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Dear hackable:1 developers and users,

it is now time for me to announce the beta version of dse2, or second
release of the DeforaOS smartphone environment as found on hackable:1.
Is still adheres to the initial goal of hackable:1, as in:
- based on Debian,
- focusing on GNOME Mobile software and user experience.

It features however an almost complete re-implementation of the user
interface and telephony software compared to the last official release,
rev5, which was based on the software stack from OpenedHand shipping on
the Openmoko Freerunner for its launch, and known as Om2007.2.

You can read more about the environment itself here already:
https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/DeforaOSSmartphone

And of course, the images themselves can be found there:
http://build.hackable1.org/releases/dse2-beta/
where Hackable1-Openmoko-Freerunner-phone-2011.03a-rootfs.jffs2 is meant
to be flashed to the NAND memory via dfu-util, and
Hackable1-Openmoko-Freerunner-phone-2011.03a.tar.gz is for MicroSD cards
in the expansion slot.

The list of changes since dse1 are numerous, and I will certainly forget
some, even while listing only the most significant ones:

- complete re-implementation of the images generation system
  = images are now based on the new stable Debian version, squeeze
  = the images shipped no longer need apt trickery to be upgraded
  = support for other distributions than Debian can be easily added

- major improvements to the user interface
  = more space for applications on the screen
  = the virtual keyboard is more usable (windows are resized when
 showed)
  = file associations can be set and changed directly from the file
 browser's preferences dialog
  = new web browser, task list manager and media player
  = usability fixes for finger-based interaction

- improved telephony and mobility support
  = GPRS support was added
  = the screen locks automatically
  = suspend and resume are supported as well

- newer kernel, with fixes for hardware support
  = MicroSD cards can be mounted again

Unfortunately, not everything could always be kept as well as it was
before, or improved as much as planned and hoped in time for this release:

- the Show desktop button could be fixed, but there is no way to
  enable the homescreen yet
  = a proper integration with matchbox-window-manager is still required
- pre-installed GPS support had to be removed
  = too many dependencies for gpsd
- wireless support is also not pre-installed
  = too many dependencies for wicd
- hardware buttons are still not supported
  = neod can now be installed again though
- the HTC TouchPro is not supported in a decent way yet
- support for other telephony backends (SIP, osmocore) is ongoing but
  still not good enough to be released here

Although, there is still time to work some more on this version. My
objective is to release dse2 next week-end, or after a release-candidate
cycle if necessary. Let me know what should be done before then!

Of course, I will welcome any other comments, feedback, bug reports,
patches, contributions of any kind.

Cheers and hope this helps!

-- 
khorben


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Re: Fwd: [Hackable1-user] First beta version of the DeforaOS smartphone environment on hackable:1

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Bellembois

Le 21/03/2011 11:48, Pierre Pronchery a écrit :

Dear community,

hackable:1 is still alive, and even welcomed a new developer (hi Trim!)
Better, we are currently preparing another release of hackable:1, based
on the DeforaOS smartphone environment (details below).

A number of fixes and improvements made it to the beta since its
original announcement last week, including the long-awaited homescreen
support. Screenshot:
http://www.defora.org/os/download/download/3512/dse2-Screenshot-2.png

The current images are there:
http://build.hackable1.org/releases/dse2-beta/

Happy testing!
-- khorben
   

Very good news !
Thanks for this great work. I will continue to test this new distribution.
Regards,

Thomas

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Re: Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?

2011-03-21 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Patrick

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Patrick Beck pb...@yourse.de wrote:
 Am Samstag, den 19.03.2011, 20:40 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
  Hi Patrick
 
  What would you like to hear in an official statement?
 
  We are very focused on making WikiReader a retail success. We sent a
  newsletter out in January talking about our progress:
 
 http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b982f5bdf55759b5b47661379id=17f3fdc0f8
 
  3 times a year (quarterly) we update WikiReader's content. Usually
  with new languages and added Wikis (beyond just Wikipedia).

 i have not seen such a newsletter so it was a mistake by me. But i have
 not found it on http://thewikireader.com/a/blog/

We also announce this type of stuff on twitter (@wikireader) if you
don't want to subscribe to the newsletter.

  Believe it or not, WikiReader is expensive to build. The quality is
  extremely high quality. We specifically designed it to last for a long
  time on very simple AAA batteries. This required special components
  that aren't commonly used in electronics these days.

 I know its not so easy and cheap, but you have hard competitors on the
 smartphone market. I own a Wikireader so i like the idea :) My father is
 very happy about it. His only problem is the display, because it has no
 background light (i know the battery).

We hope to improve the screen one day. I feel your father's pain.

 I don't know if the problems are solved in a new version (i have to look
 for a update). My last problems was.

 - Table of contents would be very nice
 - the overview block from the wikipedia (where population, president,
 etc. are listed. For example in a article about a country)
 - kinetic scrolling is a bit messy to see where you are on a black/white
 display ;)

We tried to simplify the layouts of Wikipedia a bit for device since
many of the overviews are 3-4 pages of scrolling on our little screen.

I don't think we'll get to those features soon. Although they are on
our list. Are you programmer yourself? Our code on
http://github.com/wikireader.

 So last but not least. My question about a official statement. How looks
 the future? I hope i can buy the third Openmoko device after Freerunner
 and Wikireader :)

Thanks for your kind words. We'd love to make a lot more devices for
you all. But our resources are tight these days. We are working on a
third device. But it's only in the early prototype stages. WikiReader
is going to occupy the majority of our time for a while. We really
want to make it a retail success.

Take care.

Sean

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Re: [Hackable1-user] First beta version of the DeforaOS smartphone environment on hackable:1

2011-03-21 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-21@11:48 Pierre Pronchery
 Is still adheres to the initial goal of hackable:1, as in:
 - based on Debian,
 - focusing on GNOME Mobile software and user experience.


hi,
I do not understand the second point... have you already considered LXDE, for 
example?
can you argue this choice? My concerns are mainly about the GNOME footprint in 
a limited resource environment (and no, I've nothing against gnome's logo ^_^ 
hehehe)

kind regards and tia for the answer(s)!

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Re: Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?

2011-03-21 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi Sean,

Am Montag, den 21.03.2011, 21:22 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
 Thanks for your kind words. We'd love to make a lot more devices for
 you all. But our resources are tight these days. We are working on a
 third device. But it's only in the early prototype stages. WikiReader
 is going to occupy the majority of our time for a while. We really
 want to make it a retail success.

so i hope you sales enough Wikireaders so we can see the next device
very soon :)

with kind regards

Patrick



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2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi everyone..

I just want to tell you guys about my experiences with setting that up.. :)
It's all written in a little blog, so those who are interested are very welcome 
thave a look at.. http://blog.azral.dnsalias.net 
Maybe you'll find other interesting bits there, too..

It's just a small home hosted server so bear with the speed, please.. and no 
DDoS.. ;)

cheers..
-- 
Thomas

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If it's not there and you can see it --- it's virtual.
If it's there and you can't see it --- it's transparent.
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Re: qtmoko calendar / google calendar

2011-03-21 Thread Wesley Frazier
All better, thanks!

Pretty neat to have my calendar on my phone now. Thinking about
wrapping it up in a cron job so it automatically tries to sync every
two hours or so.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: mossroy mossroy.moss...@gmail.com
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:12:17 +0100
 Subject: Re: qtmoko calendar / google calendar
 I uploaded a version 0.5 of the script on http://mossroy.free.fr/ics2qtcal/
 It now can handle correctly the date/times that are given in UTC format 
 (which was the case in the test ics file you sent me, generated by google 
 calendar)

 Please test it and let me know if it's ok for you.

 Le 18/03/2011 13:55, Wesley Frazier a écrit :

 QTMoko is set to New York for the timezone. Google Claendar is set
 to Eastern Standard. The timezones should match. It may be that
 Google Calendar does not preserve the timezone data in the ics file.
 It may present the entries in UTC or something.

 If there was a command-line option to just specify a time offset, I
 think that would be enough for me.

 If you would like a test google calendar / ics file let me know. I can
 provide one.

 Thanks!

 On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:51 AM,community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org  
 wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: mossroymossroy.moss...@gmail.com
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:51:18 +0100
 Subject: Re: qtmoko calendar / google calendar
 It's certainly a timezone issue.
 I suppose you don't use the same timezone in google calendar and in QtMoko.
 I'll look into it, to see if I can fix that in the code.

 Any other issues with this script?
 I'm happy to see that it might be helpful for someone else than me :-)

 Regards,
 Mossroy

 Le 18/03/2011 00:39, Wesley Frazier a écrit :

 Ive been trying to setup these scripts here:
 http://mossroy.free.fr/ics2qtcal/v0.4/ to download my google calendar
 and sync it to my phone. Via the ics / private link download in google
 calendar, with partial success.

 Its working but there seems to be a time offset. All of the
 appointments on the phone that were synced from the google calendar
 are three or four hours ahead of their actual times.

 Any advices/suggestions?



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