Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy

2012-04-22 Thread Travis Bachelder
What if you(I) wanted more than 32 gb? The largest micro SD (NOW) is 64 gbs
right? What if you needed larger than that? 250 gb or even 500 gb?

Is larger drive space in the GTA04 just a matter of waiting for the micro
SD card technology to support larger storage space?
If the micro SD is limited on it's storage space, then is the GTA04 board
even capable of supporting a built in external hard drive? Or is that make
for a serious design change?

Thanks,
Travis Bachelder


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> From: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" 
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:36:32 +0200
> Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
> Hi Travis,
>
> Am 22.04.2012 um 15:09 schrieb Travis Bachelder:
>
> Thanks for you input Lionel,
> Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating
> system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of
> course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart
> computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04.
>
>
> yes you should be able do that. Just configure the USB gadget driver of
> the GTA04 so
> that the GTA04 behaves like an external SD card reader and provides access
> through the USB cable. Then, you plug in the USB cable to the host machine
> and boot...
>
>
> This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it
> take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive?
>
>
> There is no need for a built-in harddrive. Just a 32 GByte Micro-SD card.
> And in some future the OMAP CPUs will even support >32 GByte.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Travis
>
>
> Nikolaus
>

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Openmoko servers

2012-04-22 Thread Bob Ham
Mr Moss-Pultz,

The server docs.openmoko.org (aka svn.openmoko.org) has been down for
some time.  Word around the camp fire has it that it is down because the
hosting company has blocked access to the machine; that they require a
signature from yourself in order to transfer control to the
administrator; and that this signature has not been received.

Could I ask: is there a particular reason that this signature has not
been provided?  Are you unwilling to relinquish control?

The situation needs to be resolved so that we can get access to the data
hosted on the server, and preferably as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

Bob Ham

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Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy

2012-04-22 Thread Benjamin Deering


The phone can present itself as a usb mass storage device (thumb drive), 
so if you put an OS image on a partition on the SD card (up to 32GB), 
you could have the desktop boot from that.


Ben
On 04/22/2012 09:09 AM, Travis Bachelder wrote:

Thanks for you input Lionel,
Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating
system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of
course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart
computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04.

This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it
take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive?

Thanks,
Travis



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From: Lionel Broche
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Cc:
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:22 +0100
Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by
'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote
connections lately so my results may interest you.

The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the
client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system
is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating
system so the client machine does not need to be powerful.

I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather
slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really)
not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is
likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote
desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly
via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of
fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to
control the GUI of a host from a light remote client.

In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my
letux and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI
of the application selected appeared on the screen.

I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if
you need.

Lionel


On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder  wrote:


Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no
grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to
you (the community) to decide.

I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream
of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop,
via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large
programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from
where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch).

I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid
state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the
ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?).

Has anyone ever fantasized about this?
Is it feasible? or Possible?

Thanks,
Travis Bachelder


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Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy

2012-04-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Travis,

Am 22.04.2012 um 15:09 schrieb Travis Bachelder:

> Thanks for you input Lionel,
> Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating 
> system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of course). 
> Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart computer to 
> boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04.

yes you should be able do that. Just configure the USB gadget driver of the 
GTA04 so
that the GTA04 behaves like an external SD card reader and provides access
through the USB cable. Then, you plug in the USB cable to the host machine
and boot...

> 
> This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it 
> take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive? 

There is no need for a built-in harddrive. Just a 32 GByte Micro-SD card.
And in some future the OMAP CPUs will even support >32 GByte.

> 
> Thanks,
> Travis

Nikolaus

>  
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Lionel Broche 
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
> Cc: 
> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:22 +0100
> Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
> I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by 'boot 
> linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote connections 
> lately so my results may interest you.
> 
> The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the 
> client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system is 
> running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating system so 
> the client machine does not need to be powerful.
> 
> I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather 
> slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really) 
> not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is 
> likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote 
> desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly via 
> ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of fidling 
> around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to control 
> the GUI of a host from a light remote client.
> 
> In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my letux 
> and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI of the 
> application selected appeared on the screen.
> 
> I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if you 
> need.
> 
> Lionel
> 
> 
> On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder  wrote:
> Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no grasp 
> on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to you (the 
> community) to decide.
> 
> I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream of 
> one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop, via 
> USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large programs such 
> as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from where ever a 
> desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch).
> 
> I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid 
> state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the ability 
> to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?).
> 
> Has anyone ever fantasized about this?
> Is it feasible? or Possible?
> 
> Thanks,
> Travis Bachelder
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Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy

2012-04-22 Thread Travis Bachelder
Thanks for you input Lionel,
Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating
system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of
course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart
computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04.

This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it
take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive?

Thanks,
Travis


> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Lionel Broche 
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:22 +0100
> Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
> I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by
> 'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote
> connections lately so my results may interest you.
>
> The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the
> client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system
> is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating
> system so the client machine does not need to be powerful.
>
> I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather
> slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really)
> not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is
> likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote
> desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly
> via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of
> fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to
> control the GUI of a host from a light remote client.
>
> In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my
> letux and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI
> of the application selected appeared on the screen.
>
> I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if
> you need.
>
> Lionel
>
>
> On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder  wrote:
>
>> Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no
>> grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to
>> you (the community) to decide.
>>
>> I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream
>> of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop,
>> via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large
>> programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from
>> where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch).
>>
>> I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid
>> state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the
>> ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?).
>>
>> Has anyone ever fantasized about this?
>> Is it feasible? or Possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Travis Bachelder
>>
>

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