Re: GTA02 Setting time from phone network using NITZ ?

2012-09-23 Thread Alex Samorukov

On 09/22/2012 10:26 AM, Adam Ward wrote:

According to
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30428306/54/AT-CTZU-Automatic-Time-Zone-Update
I should be able to chat to the modem to get some information.

But the following command does not return anything:
root@neo:~# chat -vse '' 'AT+CTZU=?' '' '' > /dev/ttySAC0 < /dev/ttySAC0
send (AT+CTZU=?^M)
send (^M)


This is a gsm fw bug. I was not able to get time from operator, vodafone 
CZ supports this, but not calypso.


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Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-23 Thread Adam Ward
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:58:18 AM Radek Polak wrote:
> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote:
> > Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does
> > QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date?  But I'm
> > afraid I don't know the answers.
> 
> I was using FSO from git at the time when i was implementing FSO backend. I
> am quite sure FSO from wheezy will work unless FSO api changed.
> 
> However for now it makes no sence to use any dbus modem middleware as
> default. QtMoko's modem library is very stable and works IMO very good. I
> dont see any benefits in using FSO or oFono right now. But still if you
> want to use FSO or oFono the support is in every QtMoko installation - just
> change "export QTOPIA_PHONE=oFono" or "export QTOPIA_PHONE=Fso" in
> /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env and QtMoko will use the dbus backend for telephony.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Radek
> 

This is getting off topic now :)

I came into this discussion because I want to check the version of the gsm 
firmware, to see if it needs to be upgraded.
The wiki has a page on doing this via FSO with dbus [1].  Is there a different 
method available ?

The reason I wanted to do this is to see if there is a bug dealing with NITZ 
that may have been resolved, but I am not sure at what level in the stack it 
is.

According to [2] the AT+CTZU command is supported.
To do this I need to talk to the modem, but nothing is being returned ?
I have tried chat [3] and cu [4] without success.  Trying cu, I typed
AT
and get no response.

Is this a Calypso firmware bug as described by Alex [5] ?

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing 
[2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands 
[3] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-September/067496.html 
[4] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem 
[5] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-September/067509.html 


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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-23 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil, Radek

> 
> However, I think that point is not far above the raw SMTP level, so I
> wonder if it would help to enable SMTP logging and see what that shows?
> To do that, go into Home, Settings, Logging; choose YES twice; then
> choose "Categories..." from the context menu, and check SMTP; then back
> all the way out.  (You don't need to restart QtMoko, despite what it
> says.)
> 
> Then repro the sending error.  Then go back into Logging and see what it
> says.
> 
Ok - have tried this and I think I have some useful information.

1) Firstly - attempting TLS connection to my own mail server. The neo connects, 
sees the certificate and that it is self signed and backs off. That's almost 
fair enough, but not what I want. Desktop email clients give the option to 
accept the certificate anyway, either temporarily or permanently and that would 
be more useful behaviour. 

Incidentally this is *not* the problem I believe to be a regression, when I was 
using earlier versions I never tried to use my own mail server - at the time I 
didn't have it set up to authenticate, rather just to relay only from my home 
ip - not much use with the phone, hence historically why I used the fastmail 
smtp service.

2) On to trying the fastmail server; first using SSL - once again this is *not* 
what I used to do, so not what I'm reporting as a regression:-

 Encrypted connect warnings: "'The issuer certificate of a locally looked up 
certificate could not be found', 'The root CA certificate is not trusted for 
this purpose'" 
Sep 23 13:38:19 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 
Sep 23 13:38:19 neo Qtopia: socketError: 13 : "The issuer certificate of a 
locally looked up certificate could not be found" 

It does seem to be erroneous behaviour though, the remote server not being 
involved at all?

3) Finally I attempt unencrypted access to the fastmail server - this is what 
definitely works in v35 (I tried it just a few days ago):-

Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  newConnection 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Open SMTP connection 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: socketError: 0 : "Connection refused" 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 

I'd be most interested in a work around to get 1) working if it's possible, but 
seems to me to be 3 seperate problems in this one area

Bets wishes
-- 
David Matthews 
m...@dmatthews.org

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-23 Thread Neil Jerram
"dmatthews.org"  writes:

> 3) Finally I attempt unencrypted access to the fastmail server - this is what 
> definitely works in v35 (I tried it just a few days ago):-
>
> Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  newConnection 
> Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Open SMTP connection 
> Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: socketError: 0 : "Connection refused" 
> Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 

Regarding (3), I notice that
https://www.fastmail.fm/help/remote_email_access_server_names_and_ports.html
says that the right port number is 465, and here's what happens when I try
to connect to ports 25 and 465:

  neil@neil-laptop:~$ telnet mail.messagingengine.com 25
  Trying 66.111.4.52...
  Trying 66.111.4.51...
  telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
  neil@neil-laptop:~$ telnet mail.messagingengine.com 465
  Trying 66.111.4.51...
  Connected to mail.messagingengine.com.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  ^C^C
  Connection closed by foreign host.
  neil@neil-laptop:~$ 

So perhaps the "Connection refused" you get is caused by QtMoko
incorrectly using port 25?  Did you set port 465 in the account
configuration for sending?

Regards,
Neil

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