Re: QTMoko website
On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 08:01:03 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Attached is a patch to make QtMoko's GPS framework (Q*Whereabouts) use gpsd instead of reading directly from /dev/ttyO1. The benefit of that is that multiple clients, both Qt and non-Qt, can all use GPS at the same time. Nice, i was trying to do something like this too, but without any results. But I wonder how much is gpsd useful for us now. We have lightweight Whereabouts framework which now works good on GTA02 and GTA04. On GTA02 it even handles supplying AGPS data. I wonder what GPSD can do for us. It's another program running in background eating system resources. The programs that will use GPSD will be poorly integrated in QtMoko - i.e. not showing the fix status in title bar, no blinking with LED to indicated NMEA activity, no AGPS. This leads us to question - how many programs will use the GPSD. Navit can be quite easily adjusted to use QWereabouts, i think the same can be done with Monav and Marble. And one more thing - i hate GPSD because they are breaking API compatibility and we have no control of it. I want now to do some wheezy/armhf experimental release for GTA04 and if wheezy/sqeeze gpsd are not compatible then it's quite problem... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTMoko website
Hi, GPSD is usefull for dealing with many kinds of differenet devices etc. In case of one specific GPS device in GTAxx, full potential of GPSD cannot be utilised. But GPSD still have few very usseful features, one of them is data export trought socket/network. This way can be GPS data easilly accessible by other applications (eg. experimental application in python or tunneled trought network into PC). I have in past did some dirty hack wich create socket and when someone start reading it QWhereabouts starts GPS and act as proxy (and close GPS again when noone reads anny more). This code is not usable now, but this feature might be ussefull for hacking. Pinky. On 10/03/2012 12:03 PM, Radek Polak wrote: On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 08:01:03 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Attached is a patch to make QtMoko's GPS framework (Q*Whereabouts) use gpsd instead of reading directly from /dev/ttyO1. The benefit of that is that multiple clients, both Qt and non-Qt, can all use GPS at the same time. Nice, i was trying to do something like this too, but without any results. But I wonder how much is gpsd useful for us now. We have lightweight Whereabouts framework which now works good on GTA02 and GTA04. On GTA02 it even handles supplying AGPS data. I wonder what GPSD can do for us. It's another program running in background eating system resources. The programs that will use GPSD will be poorly integrated in QtMoko - i.e. not showing the fix status in title bar, no blinking with LED to indicated NMEA activity, no AGPS. This leads us to question - how many programs will use the GPSD. Navit can be quite easily adjusted to use QWereabouts, i think the same can be done with Monav and Marble. And one more thing - i hate GPSD because they are breaking API compatibility and we have no control of it. I want now to do some wheezy/armhf experimental release for GTA04 and if wheezy/sqeeze gpsd are not compatible then it's quite problem... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:07:32 +0100 Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: Thanks - interesting thought, but it doesn't do the trick, although I suspect it was part of the problem - the errors no longer include moans about certifcates. Not sure if v35 included the ca-certificates - but I wasn't using TLS then anyway (to recap at that time I used unencrypted login against a different smtp server and that does not work in version 48) I tried every conceivable TLS setting against 2 servers, one of which is my own and that I know works with desktop email clients. here's a sample reject from the server:- 2012-10-03 17:55:41 TLS error on connection from [81.187.28.181] (recv): A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. 2012-10-03 17:55:41 TLS error on connection from [81.187.28.181] (send): The specified session has been invalidated for some reason. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48
On 10/1/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday, September 30, 2012 05:21:43 PM Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: I have big problems starting booting up proper. After finally attaching the debug cable, I noticed that the kernel is 3.4.0-gta04 but under /lib/modules/ there is only 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48. Do I need to first boot with 2.6.34 and then upgrade to the new kernel? It is strange that I didn't see any other reporting this problem. Have you downloaded the right tarball? The download url for GTA04 is http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA04/ Thank you very much. I used the correct url, but clicked on the link on the top (for the lastest version) without noticing that the filename said it was for gta02. Sorry for the noise, and thank you for the help! Looking forward to finally test the correct image:) 2.6.34 is kernel for Freerunner (GTA02). So this looks like you have kernel for GTA04 and rootfs for GTA02. I have checked the qtmoko-debian-gta04-v48.tar.gz tarball and it looks all fine (3.5 kernel in boot, 3.5 modules in /var/lib) Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
Hi I've finally gave up with SHR. Around 2010 June-July, I had a mostly stable daily phone, rock solid gps, really great battery life (#1024 fixed, 3-4 days standby time), and I was very very happy. But since then, my sd card sttoped working realibly, my phone doesn't wake up from suspend, gps intermitently fails, and I cannot say about battery life, because it's almost impossible to last 1 day without a freeze... In late 2011 I had a baby, and I left Neo unused for a while. I had no time to fight with so many problems. I was using a dumb phone as my daily phone, and giving all my time to my baby :) Now I want to use FR again, and give qtmoko a chance. I'm really surprised with the state of all functions. Almost everything works flawlessly, new theme is AMAZING, I can even use my own WPA2 home wifi. Last time I got it working with neo was with FDOM (LOOONG time ago). SD card works again (I'm booting qtmoko from sd card, so I can say it works completely stable). I'm very happy... but with battery life. Usually I get only about 12 hours standby time, and many less if I use it a little. My Neo is #1024 fixed, I have activated deep sleep both in neocontrol and in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf [1] I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Any clue on this? Is this standby time normal for this version? What is your standby time? P.S. I have two brand new batteries, so you can discard a broken battery... [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=FAQ#How_about_power_save_of_Calypso.2C_the_GSM_modem_- _bug_.231024 -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
On 10/04/2012 12:05 AM, David Garabana Barro wrote: Hi I've finally gave up with SHR. Around 2010 June-July, I had a mostly stable daily phone, rock solid gps, really great battery life (#1024 fixed, 3-4 days standby time), and I was very very happy. But since then, my sd card sttoped working realibly, my phone doesn't wake up from suspend, gps intermitently fails, and I cannot say about battery life, because it's almost impossible to last 1 day without a freeze... In late 2011 I had a baby, and I left Neo unused for a while. I had no time to fight with so many problems. I was using a dumb phone as my daily phone, and giving all my time to my baby :) Now I want to use FR again, and give qtmoko a chance. I'm really surprised with the state of all functions. Almost everything works flawlessly, new theme is AMAZING, I can even use my own WPA2 home wifi. Last time I got it working with neo was with FDOM (LOOONG time ago). SD card works again (I'm booting qtmoko from sd card, so I can say it works completely stable). I'm very happy... but with battery life. Usually I get only about 12 hours standby time, and many less if I use it a little. My Neo is #1024 fixed, I have activated deep sleep both in neocontrol and in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf [1] I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Any clue on this? Is this standby time normal for this version? What is your standby time? P.S. I have two brand new batteries, so you can discard a broken battery... [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=FAQ#How_about_power_save_of_Calypso.2C_the_GSM_modem_-_bug_.231024 -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID: da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html Hi David, I had the same reason for swap to QTmoko from SHR some weeks before. I found it very stable and usable. Thanks to all developers. My standby times vary - but usually without touching it it's somewhere around 24 hours and probably more. I am on the way to play with that deep sleep of GSM modem and can share my findings (I do not have deep sleep enabled yet). -- Peter Viskup ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
