Re: [Gta04-owner] Experimental QtMoko/GTA04 build for armhf

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
Gilles Filippini gilles.filipp...@free.fr writes:

From what I understand, the emdebian repository had its toolchains
 upgraded on the 23/10/2012 [1]. It may be broken at the moment: it's now
 impossible to create a pdebuild chroot with my scripts :(

 [1] http://emdebian.org/debian/pool/main/g/

 I'll have a deeper look this evening.

 Thanks,

Thanks; I'm happy to have discovered a real problem and not just PEBKAC.
:-)

Neil

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org writes:

 You say that you can't duplicate the issue - by that do you mean you *can* 
 send
 email from a freerunner on qtmoko v48? - I had the impression you were more
 involved on the GTA04 and may not have a freerunner any longer.

FYI I was running my GTA04 on 2G-only yesterday and found that email
didn't work properly for me - whereas normally I'm on 3G, and email
works fine.

I didn't investigate the details very closely, but perhaps this is a
clue - i.e. that the email problem you see with v48 on Freerunner is
to do with the low 2G data rate.

It would be good to have some more data points.  Can anyone else report
success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on

- Freerunner
- GTA04 on 2G-only  (the default)
- GTA04 on 3G   (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2
 to AT_OPSYS=3,2)

?

Regards,
Neil

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread David Matthews


I didn't investigate the details very closely, but perhaps this is a
clue - i.e. that the email problem you see with v48 on Freerunner is
to do with the low 2G data rate.



Neil, nope. all the testing I did was using my home adsl either by wifi or
routing through the desktop machine over usb


However on earlier versions (ie up to v35 at least) it definitely worked over
2G as well for me.



It would be good to have some more data points.  Can anyone else report
success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on

- Freerunner
- GTA04 on 2G-only  (the default)
- GTA04 on 3G   (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2


Yes :-) I'd particularly like to hear if other neo users have found the same
as me.

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David Matthews
m...@dmatthews.org

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org writes:


I didn't investigate the details very closely, but perhaps this is a
clue - i.e. that the email problem you see with v48 on Freerunner is
to do with the low 2G data rate.


 Neil, nope. all the testing I did was using my home adsl either by wifi or
 routing through the desktop machine over usb

Ah, OK, thanks for eliminating that possibility.

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Boudewijn
On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote:
 It would be good to have some more data points.  Can anyone else report
 success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on
 
 - Freerunner
 - GTA04 on 2G-only  (the default)
 - GTA04 on 3G   (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2
 
 Yes :-) I'd particularly like to hear if other neo users have found the
 same as me.
I was also wondering, but hadn't found the mail application till now. Thanks 
to you two persevering, I got mail on my phone now. Thanks :-)

Setting up the account was straightforward thanks to all fields having labels 
that say clear enough what they mean. I first started the initial get folder 
structure before realizing I had no connection whatsoever. I canceled that, 
connected some-G network and started initial download. It seems to work 
immediately: after a couple of seconds the directory structure was copied, and 
the first headers came in. After a couple of minutes it is at some 800 message 
headers.

I actually have no idea which generation of network I'm using at the moment. 
The network-cell-status got a GSM- and a UMTS-cell code. Energy usage is at 
switching between 25mA and 96-to-104mA. 

Is the location of the config file mentioned in the thread? I searched the 
file system, found some configs that got mail in it, but nothing that 
resembles an account configuration. Or are those settings in some database 
file?

I tested with an xs4all.nl-account, imap on port 993, with SSL. I'll give 
Yahoo a try later, so we can exchange settings for a service that's available 
to all of us (Yahoo Asia includes IMAP, as opposed to default Yahoo, in case 
you're about to try).

Time allowing I'll install QtMoko 48 on my Freerunner to give that a run as 
well.

Best regards,

Boudewijn


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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
Boudewijn wankelwan...@yahoo.com writes:

 On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote:
 It would be good to have some more data points.  Can anyone else report
 success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on
 
 - Freerunner
 - GTA04 on 2G-only  (the default)
 - GTA04 on 3G   (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2
 
 Yes :-) I'd particularly like to hear if other neo users have found the
 same as me.
 I was also wondering, but hadn't found the mail application till now. Thanks 
 to you two persevering, I got mail on my phone now. Thanks :-)

 Setting up the account was straightforward thanks to all fields having labels 
 that say clear enough what they mean. I first started the initial get folder 
 structure before realizing I had no connection whatsoever. I canceled that, 
 connected some-G network and started initial download. It seems to work 
 immediately: after a couple of seconds the directory structure was copied, 
 and 
 the first headers came in. After a couple of minutes it is at some 800 
 message 
 headers.

 I actually have no idea which generation of network I'm using at the moment. 
 The network-cell-status got a GSM- and a UMTS-cell code. Energy usage is at 
 switching between 25mA and 96-to-104mA. 

It sounds like the GSM/UMTS difference is a red herring anyway, but if
you're on 2G (GSM) you'll have a G at the left hand side of your title
bar, whereas with 3G (UMTS) you'll have a 3.

 Is the location of the config file mentioned in the thread? I searched the 
 file system, found some configs that got mail in it, but nothing that 
 resembles an account configuration. Or are those settings in some database 
 file?

It's at /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/qtopiamail.conf

 I tested with an xs4all.nl-account, imap on port 993, with SSL. I'll give 
 Yahoo a try later, so we can exchange settings for a service that's available 
 to all of us (Yahoo Asia includes IMAP, as opposed to default Yahoo, in 
 case 
 you're about to try).

 Time allowing I'll install QtMoko 48 on my Freerunner to give that a run as 
 well.

Thanks!

Regards,
Neil

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Boudewijn
On Wednesday 24 October 2012 23:07:37 Neil Jerram wrote:
 Boudewijn wankelwan...@yahoo.com writes:
  On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote:
  It would be good to have some more data points.  Can anyone else report
  success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on
  
  - Freerunner
  - GTA04 on 2G-only  (the default)
  - GTA04 on 3G   (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2
  
  I actually have no idea which generation of network I'm using at the
  moment. The network-cell-status got a GSM- and a UMTS-cell code. Energy
  usage is at switching between 25mA and 96-to-104mA.
Sorry any confusion: I thought those values to be too low for any charging 
taking place (as charging via USB often stops in my case). I thought it really 
low for an active connection as well, but I only found out after connecting it 
to a wall charger that energy usage was arount 500mA.

 It sounds like the GSM/UMTS difference is a red herring anyway, but if
 you're on 2G (GSM) you'll have a G at the left hand side of your title
 bar, whereas with 3G (UMTS) you'll have a 3.
Too bad... Never saw a 3 there :-( 
I really start doubting my objectivity now: I thought to have a much faster 
internetexperience :-P

  Is the location of the config file mentioned in the thread? I searched
  the file system, found some configs that got mail in it, but nothing
  that resembles an account configuration. Or are those settings in some
  database file?
 
 It's at /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/qtopiamail.conf
Ah, thanks:

[account_5]
accountname=k@xs
autoDownload=true
basefolder=
checkinterval=-60
deletemail=false
email=ma...@xs4all.nl
intervalCheckRoamingEnabled=true
mailEncryption=1
mailpasswordobs=DelkWEFed=
mailport=993
mailserver=imap.xs4all.nl
mailuser=maijoeser
maxmailsize=20
name=Boudewijn
networkConfig=
pushEnabled=false
smtpAuthentication=3
smtpEncryption=2
smtpPasswordObs=
smtpUsername=
smtpport=587
smtpserver=smtp.xs4all.nl
synchronize=true
type=1
usesig=true


Best regards,

Boudewijn


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