Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread robin
I tried the excuting 

root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer 
/opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I searched for qtopia but did not find anything specific for libqtopiagfx.

robin





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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread robin
root@neo:/# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib
root@neo:/# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

did do the job.


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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread Neil Jerram
robin spielr...@web.de writes:

 I tried the excuting 

 root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer 
 /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

 I searched for qtopia but did not find anything specific for libqtopiagfx.

Do

  . /opt/qtmoko/qpe/env

before that, then it should work.

 Neil

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Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?

2012-12-02 Thread Neil Jerram
robin spielr...@web.de writes:

 I quite like being able to bring the phone back from suspend with a quick
 press on the powerbutton, checking what time it is and then sending it back
 to suspend with another quick press on the power button (but this is the 
 standard way qtmoko does it if I am not being mistaken, or in which state
 does qtmoko turn if I just do a quick press on the power button; I thought
 it goes to suspend?!?).
 As the freerunner has only two hardware buttons and the aux button is 
 reported to break sometimes, it might be a good idea to have three press 
 duration specific settings for the power button. One idea could also be
 to have something like this as standard:

 a) 1s - suspend
 b) 1s 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog
 c) 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog

 and this behaviour being read from a text config file. so anyone who needs
 the b) slot to do something differently could just change it to fit his/her 
 needs.

I think that's a bit complex, and 4s is a long time to press a button
for any requirement.  Also I doubt that the infrastructure supports 2
different long key press times - at the moment the config file has
PressedAction fields and HeldAction fields, and there's no apparent
way to specify 2 difference hold times.

My preference would be:

a) Power key pressed - show Home page

b) Power key held - show shutdown/reboot dialog

c) Change the Star icon on the Home page so that it does what a Power
key press currently does: i.e. it brings up a page with Favorites,
Recent, Frequent and Running tabs, instead of just the Favorites page.

This is because when I use the Power key, it's almost always because I
want to go back to the Home page in order to do some new thing (while
the application that I was in still running).

Then we'd have:

- for quick suspend: Power key, Lock icon

- for Home page: Power key

- for Favorites: Power key, Star icon

- for running programs: Power key, Star icon, Running tab.

Thoughts?

   Neil

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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread Neil Jerram
Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net writes:

 robin spielr...@web.de writes:

 I tried the excuting 

 root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer 
 /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

 I searched for qtopia but did not find anything specific for libqtopiagfx.

 Do

   . /opt/qtmoko/qpe/env

 before that, then it should work.

  Neil

Oops, I meant (for the record):

   . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env

(Which includes the LD_LIBRARY_PATH change that worked for you.)

 Neil

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Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?

2012-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:44:31 PM Neil Jerram wrote:
 robin spielr...@web.de writes:
  I quite like being able to bring the phone back from suspend with a quick
  press on the powerbutton, checking what time it is and then sending it
  back to suspend with another quick press on the power button (but this
  is the standard way qtmoko does it if I am not being mistaken, or in
  which state does qtmoko turn if I just do a quick press on the power
  button; I thought it goes to suspend?!?).
  As the freerunner has only two hardware buttons and the aux button is
  reported to break sometimes, it might be a good idea to have three press
  duration specific settings for the power button. One idea could also be
  to have something like this as standard:
  
  a) 1s - suspend
  b) 1s 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog
  c) 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog
  
  and this behaviour being read from a text config file. so anyone who
  needs the b) slot to do something differently could just change it to
  fit his/her needs.

I think android on Freerunner had this setup. IIRC short press was context 
menu, longer was home and very long was the power off dialog.

If someone wants to send patch for 3 states i will have no problem to commit 
it although i personally dont need this.

 My preference would be:
 
 a) Power key pressed - show Home page
 
 b) Power key held - show shutdown/reboot dialog
 
 c) Change the Star icon on the Home page so that it does what a Power
 key press currently does: i.e. it brings up a page with Favorites,
 Recent, Frequent and Running tabs, instead of just the Favorites page.
 
 This is because when I use the Power key, it's almost always because I
 want to go back to the Home page in order to do some new thing (while
 the application that I was in still running).
 
 Then we'd have:
 
 - for quick suspend: Power key, Lock icon
 
 - for Home page: Power key
 
 - for Favorites: Power key, Star icon
 
 - for running programs: Power key, Star icon, Running tab.
 
 Thoughts?

Yes i'd like it this way too. I am mostly doing short press and then select 
Home, so this would save few clicks.

Regards

Radek

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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread robin
/opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer is very nice indeed. so no problem anymore in 
getting the the cell id and lac directly. Now I looked a bit into the other
values which can be returned as well. What I did not find is anything on

tav   - timing advance / main cell only - fixed radius from main cell in
steps of 555m
rxlev - signal strength / all cells - triangulation

and in general anything on how one can access the current neighbours. 

So are all the values vsexplorer provides standard qtopia values, and the ones
I am looking for are currently not implemented or did anyound (eg you radek)
write the software to get this data in addition to the standard qtopia stack?
In either case has anyone an idea if the variables I am looking for can be
implemented in qtmoko as well as it has been done with fso? personally I would
like to stick to the standard way qtmoko handles its modem and not change to 
fso as I always had much complaints in shr about the audio quality.

robin






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Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?

2012-12-02 Thread robin
sounds reasonable to me

+1

robin


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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, December 02, 2012 02:06:39 PM robin wrote:

 /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer is very nice indeed. so no problem anymore in
 getting the the cell id and lac directly. Now I looked a bit into the other
 values which can be returned as well. What I did not find is anything on
 
 tav   - timing advance / main cell only - fixed radius from main cell in
 steps of 555m
 rxlev - signal strength / all cells - triangulation
 
 and in general anything on how one can access the current neighbours.
 
 So are all the values vsexplorer provides standard qtopia values, and the
 ones I am looking for are currently not implemented or did anyound (eg you
 radek) write the software to get this data in addition to the standard
 qtopia stack? In either case has anyone an idea if the variables I am
 looking for can be implemented in qtmoko as well as it has been done with
 fso? personally I would like to stick to the standard way qtmoko handles
 its modem and not change to fso as I always had much complaints in shr
 about the audio quality.

I think you have to find out the AT commands that provide this information. 
E.g. you can try openmoko wiki, googling or FSO sources.

Regards

Radek

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Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?

2012-12-02 Thread Boudewijn
On Sunday 02 December 2012 12:44:31 Neil Jerram wrote:
 My preference would be:
 
 a) Power key pressed - show Home page
 
 c) Change the Star icon on the Home page so that it does what a Power
 key press currently does: i.e. it brings up a page with Favorites,
 Recent, Frequent and Running tabs, instead of just the Favorites page.

How about making the Home-tab default? I also usually use the short 
powerpress to get to the home-screen, or the program menu (via Home). 

Or, something else: is there a way to add Home to favourites? 

Finally: 4 seconds is quite long indeed, but for normal use (perhaps 
differing from daily use for many of us...) there is not so often a need for 
the shutdown menu. (That is besides setting up the system to recognize between 
different lengths of key press of course.)

Best regards,

Boudewijn


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Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot

2012-12-02 Thread Harry Prevor
On 11/23/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 On Friday, November 23, 2012 03:33:42 PM Harry Prevor wrote:

 Can jffs2 images
 of QtMoko still be produced? I'm kind of hesitant to try the v26
 release because I'd like to have the latest version for my Freerunner.
 What exact changes would I have to make to my tarball, and how would I
 go about changing bootloader arguments?

 You can find and revert the qi commit here:

   https://github.com/radekp/qi

I'm not sure what you mean by this so I didn't do it. Do I really need
to make changes to Qi just to create a current jffs2 QtMoko image?

 You can easily create jffs2 image from the tarbal as documented here:

 https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/txt/debian_rootfs_howto.txt

I tried to do this today, however I got stuck at some parts:

1. I can skip everything from Step 8 - install QtMoko except for
what's under * Install it because I'm not uploading anything to
SourceForge, right?
2. How would I go about completing the Step 9 - Linux kernel
step? Should everything in this step be done in the qemu buildhost?
Can I just download a source tarball instead of using git to check it
out? What tarball should I download in that case?

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Harry Prevor

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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread Boudewijn
On Sunday 02 December 2012 15:19:26 Radek Polak wrote:
 On Sunday, December 02, 2012 02:06:39 PM robin wrote:
 In either case has anyone an idea if the
  variables I am looking for can be implemented in qtmoko as well as it
  has been done with fso? personally I would like to stick to the standard
  way qtmoko handles its modem and not change to fso as I always had much
  complaints in shr about the audio quality.
 
 I think you have to find out the AT commands that provide this information.
 E.g. you can try openmoko wiki, googling or FSO sources.
 
What is the status of FSO in QtMoko supposed to be? I tried it in v47 but to 
no avail. I had other problems back then, so in case it was supposed to work 
chances are the rest of the system gave to many other problems to notice.

I'll give it a try tonight anyway (that is, enabling FSO on v50). 

Best regards,

Boudewijn


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Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko

2012-12-02 Thread robin
the AT commands are:

AT%EM=2,2  Serving Cell GPRS Information
AT%EM=2,3  Neighbour Cell Information

but how do I pass those to the modem? or rather how do I slip those commands to
qtmoko inbetween so I will still be able to receive calls?

br

robin


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