Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Yes, but you still have the problem of the conflict resolution. First, this doesnt work if files are changed on both sides. Which to chose? And with a "real" sync app versus a file sync app it would present the contents of the conflicted data side by side and asking you what to do. And I am not talking about pure raw file contents but with a real user interface the presents contacts like contacts and calendar data as calendar data. Of course everything can be done using text diffs but then you are not on eye level with iPhone et al. Alex Al Johnson schrieb: > On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Alexander Mueller wrote: >> Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing >> up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than >> a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. > > Have you tried Unison? It does two way sync with conflict flagging, and works > across platforms. > >> Alex >> >> Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: >>> Alexander Mueller writes: >>>> Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. >>> Why not just rsync your home directory? >>> >>> (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using >>> debian here..) > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Alex Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: > Alexander Mueller writes: >> Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. > > Why not just rsync your home directory? > > (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using > debian here..) > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Well, I have worked with several X applications on Windows as well as on the Mac and I hated it. You can see its not a native application because the user interface doesnt match the native one. And about a desktop application. To me such a thing isnt jusr a remote frontend for the phone, but rather the place where the data as synced and backed up. As with the palm. You sync your stuff and all your apps and all your data is on the PC. Plug in a new palm device, sync again and your new device is ready to go. I expect the same for every device. Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Sync is one of the really weak spots of Android and the iPhone (only syncing pim data, syncing only with Google Mail or iTunes). Alex Helge Hafting schrieb: > Alexander Mueller wrote: >> Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on >> windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI >> frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? >> > Just think of the xserver as a "windows compatibility layer" Macs and > linux PCs already have the xserver. An xserver is not such a big piece > of software to run on windows either. It certainly isn't a big piece of > linux - or it wouldn't fit on a phone too small to run windows. > > I think the ideal way is to run the settings/config/sms apps on the > phone itself. That way, you can do stuff on the phone (config, send sms, > etc.) even without a pc. > > The pc becomes mostly a convenience thing - run the same apps but on a > much bigger screen with a real keyboard and mouse. Cut & paste between > phone apps and pc apps. I.e. paste and URL into a sms and vice-versa. > > A few things, such a data synchronization with a pc app may need some > software to run on the pc. But that sort of thing should be kept to a > minimum. When stuff runs on the phone, there will be only one place > to update software. So when MMS gets implemented on the phone, you > immediately have that capability from the PC too. No waiting for the > "pc-phone app" to catch up! > > This is what the X protocol is all about - run the software on the > machine that makes sense (i.e. the one that actually have gsm hw) and > display it on the machine that has the best display (the pc). > It already works very well - using cable or using wifi. > > Want to see the phone filesystem from the pc? The phone can already > pretend to be a usb disk. Or you can run samba on it. > > Helge Hafting > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? wxPython for Python, wxWidgets for C++ Of course there is QT as well. Alex George Brooke schrieb: > On Sunday 22 February 2009 19:25:40 Andreas Willich wrote: >> Your idea is interesting. >> >> But as I am a lazy user, I want all my settings within one GUI. >> Additional I want to use the application under Windows. I have to use >> Windows and Office at my work and there I have the most time the neo >> connected with my PC. >> >> And the application is more targeting the not so experienced NEO/Linux >> users. Perhaps a little step forward to mass market compatible?. >> >> >> Regards >> Andreas > The program could always include a xserver in the windows version, also maybe > the main apps could have a shared settings gui but x forwarding would save > having to create a new version for the settings manager each time a new app > is > released not to mention incompatibility if one of the apps change how they do > their settings from one version to another. > > solar.george > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
I think it would be so helpful to have something like it. But I would rather not compare it to the Nokia suite but to Palm Desktop. Well being a palm user for ages this might be the reason. What kind of sync protocol to you intend to implement. SyncML seems to make the most sense to me. And that way you can use existing implementations and you are not limited to support only a single device (...bla bla bla, whatever can be said in favor of an open protocol...) Greetings Alex Andreas Willich schrieb: > Hi List > > > I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo > (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ > http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) > > After a mail from c_c > (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea > to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia. > > So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the > different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and > transfer files between PC and Neo. > > > What do you think? Is such an application needed? > > > Regards > Andreas > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Well the SON is already on the bike... one of the reasons why I wanna use a hub generator for charging.. Alex Juergen Schinker schrieb: > Alexander Mueller wrote: >> Hey all, >> is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation >> and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? >> >> I would love to have an adapter from my hub generator for the >> Freerunner. Should not be too difficult. Something to convert AC to DC >> and then maybe some switching thing to getthe right voltage (DC/DC >> converter or what). >> > > check > > http://www.nabendynamo.de/ > > http://obico.de/ > > little expensive but good > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
I think NiMH batteries hate to get overcharged, so you may want to have a protection or charging circuit in place. Alex Radek Polak schrieb: >> Hey all, >> is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation >> and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? >> >> I would love to have an adapter from my hub generator for the >> Freerunner. Should not be too difficult. Something to convert AC to DC >> and then maybe some switching thing to getthe right voltage (DC/DC >> converter or what). >> >> Does anybody have a solution or some hints? >> >> >> Alex >> >> > > Hi, > from what i read probably the best way is to convert AC current to DC > and use NiMH batteries for current excess. But my skills in this area are > very poor. > > My plan is to use utilize batteries that are inside my front light which is > Hella HL 2000. I didnt have time and wasnt brave enough to try it yet. > > Here is links for stuff i found on this topic: > > http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/charger/ > > Radek > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Thanks a lot. Yes, I recall having seen this article. But didnt read it back then. And of course I threw out my old c't s quite some time ago. But will have a real close look at this. Alex Konstantin schrieb: > Hi there! > >> Hey all, >> is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation >> and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? >> >> I would love to have an adapter from my hub generator for the >> Freerunner. Should not be too difficult. Something to convert AC to DC >> and then maybe some switching thing to getthe right voltage (DC/DC >> converter or what). >> >> Does anybody have a solution or some hints? > > Assuming you're from Germany due to your name and mail provider ( ;) ), the > computer magazine c't had an interesting workshop-article explaining how to > build a voltage converter with rechargable battery to power devices via usb > with > the hub generator of a bike. > The Article can be found here: > > http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/2007/23/190_kiosk > (alas, not for free, they want 60 cents for it - alternatively, you can ask > someone with a c't subscription for the article) > > They also had a multi-parted workshop in their TV show, a link to the archives > can be found here: > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/c-t-magazin-tv-Sommerprojekt-Multimedia-Fahrrad--/meldung/110428 > > hth, > Konstantin > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Michael Sheldon schrieb: > Alexander Mueller wrote: >> Hey all, >> is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation >> and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? > > Hi Alex, > > Personally I just use a solar charger with a large waterproof panel > strapped over my panniers > (http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/products/Solar_Chargers/Globetrotter_green.asp). > > I also carry a couple of spare batteries in case the weather is really bad. I though about such for quite a long time as well but voted against it. It adds too much to carry around (for my taste). Thats way I wanna use the generator, thats already there... Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Ah, plenty of links. > http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/511 This looks quite nice, but the electronics from > http://www.instructables.com/id/ > How-to-Charge-Any-USB-Device-by-Riding-Your-Bike/ looks nice to me > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/if_you_can_brea.php > http://fablab.waag.org/content/usb-bike-charger Are interesting, but I wanna use my hub generator (already existent). I am contemplating about an option to have a breaker switch so voltage goes exclusively to the charger (during daytime) or to the lights. Should be most efficient that way. Oh, and to tbe able to turn the stuff off Alex Risto H. Kurppa schrieb: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Alexander Mueller wrote: >> Hey all, >> is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation >> and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? >> >> I would love to have an adapter from my hub generator for the >> Freerunner. Should not be too difficult. Something to convert AC to DC >> and then maybe some switching thing to getthe right voltage (DC/DC >> converter or what). >> >> Does anybody have a solution or some hints? > > > Something like > http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/511 > http://fablab.waag.org/content/usb-bike-charger > http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Charge-Any-USB-Device-by-Riding-Your-Bike/ > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/if_you_can_brea.php :) > > If you decide to go for one, let us know! > > r > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Hey all, is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? I would love to have an adapter from my hub generator for the Freerunner. Should not be too difficult. Something to convert AC to DC and then maybe some switching thing to getthe right voltage (DC/DC converter or what). Does anybody have a solution or some hints? Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions
Helge Hafting schrieb: > Alexey Feldgendler wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien >> wrote: >> >>> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? >>> >>> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in >>> the world and of course this means problems. >> 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigned >> to link-local addresses. > > Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a > link-local address? > * Pick a random address > * check that it is free (arp, ping,...) > * take it. > > That has a good chance of working, even for those who > routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time. > > Helge Hafting This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner. For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has chosen is way harder, especially for newbies. Alex Mueller ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
