Re: FreeRunner case + stylus holder (was Re: New case)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 26.09.2009 19:13, Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: I bought a leather case with my freerunner from tuxbrain, and it protects the freerunner, and has a stylus holder too. My freerunner felt more then 20 times already (even from the first floor*), but thanks to this case, there is no damage at all... I second this. I bought the same case [1] and I am 100 percent satisfied. Same story basically: Freerunner has been dropped a few times - - no damage. Also: better protection from dust and dirt. And a small stylus is even included with the case :) If you want a stylus with you at all times and can live with the thought of keeping the freerunner clipped to your belt - you should definitely buy this case! Regards, Andreas [1] http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/omcase.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq+asYACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwEsswCfUe2Fz5AUUQpOOMDde/rvVyJq M/4AoI3Z9joGy6adUo2lR9SGYEXjYEYA =pue7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have problems too. It is the open nature of this project that allows us to actually fix the shortcomings other people would have to live with. Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko1W9kACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwF5uQCfQ1vkpBky6xOqGanKy9W2dB4T pLQAn3nFpZuBZ0bNO9nqImbQoqZRHXvR =6nIc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mailing list glitch?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.06.2009 20:08, Doug Jones schrieb: Harald Welte wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 03:21:26PM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: Doug Jones wrote: Has this bug been there all along? Does our community's collective memory have a hole in it? Seems that it chopped the mail at the line beginning with From. Not sure where the rest ended up ... It looks like the mailman/pipermail parser is somewhat broken and considers every line starting with ^From as the beginning of a new mail (envelope-from). This is really weird, one would expect this kind of bug in the UUCP days of the early 1990ies but not in 2009. This is a test message. From this point on, will it be truncated in the archive? I did a cursory search of the mailman-user archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ but didn't find any reference to this bug. I suppose we should report it to them. Apparently they don't have a bug tracker, just the lists. I imagine the code doesn't change very often. Actually this sounds suspiciously like the mbox-Bug - in which case the bug is in the spec, not the software. Switching to Maildir might help, if it's possible. Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkorAJkACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwGeMwCgmv1CG9SNd1pGZcE6rif1cQNj ldAAoI5Ecppdi+vDilAs7xHJmAIN7k/Q =NJtL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.05.2009 15:17, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: Am 29.05.2009 um 17:24 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I should add the status of the Buzz-Rework: * I have received back today all devices that we have received so far until approx. beginning of this week. They will now go to testing and then shipment. All units have passed the tests and will be shipped after this (long) weekend. Any news on the next batch? GDC reportedly has received my FreeRunner nearly two weeks ago and I haven't heard anything since. I had hoped to get it back until Monday since I'm out of country the rest of the week and could use a GPS. ATM it looks like I have to wait a third week, though... Regards, Andreas Fischer Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkorBYcACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwEJuACfaqVT5VFvKdDceIc/F5u8H1q3 SF0AnRlqNiS6oYYXFmApPykSuBFVTI2t =sMBK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[fso-testing] python-xml missing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm trying to develop a small Python application which needs to parse XML-Files. Now, executing the app on my phone gives me: from xml.dom.ext.reader import Sax2 ImportError: No module named ext.reader So - apparently python-xml isn't installed. Funny, though, that opkg install python-xml says: Package python-xml (2.6.1-ml0.1) installed in root is up to date. I tried a opkg -force-reinstall install python-xml, but to no avail: ERROR: Package python-xml (parent python-xml) is not available from any configured src. (I did opkg update before - obviously.) Um... help? I tried to find the package online somewhere, but could only find a version for Python 2.5 (and I don't think mixing versions here is a good idea). Where can I get an up-to-date .ipk? Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn9oqgACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwFS4QCgiaZzHRzT/DmIprRZO0EU1tnT hpMAnicdrZ+k5gzy4GYYJRRAAi0gRDCd =9vi+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.12.2008 17:17, arne anka schrieb: Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the buzz bug or not. That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also record the echo issue in it (which also seems to vary among people). Anyone knowing where to place this page? i wish, you guys would check archives and wiki before posting this stuff. the buzzing issue is _technically_ solved. I know. Still it might be good for those who suffer from buzzing to know whether a change of provider would bring a chance of improving the situation meanwhile, until the fix is official. And a wiki page summarizing experiences doesn't really cost anything, does it? Regards, Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklACw8ACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwFzTwCbB++czGH5Bon0BBzdQL4/7glo 3woAn1N+shXWAVeKVwK8Kpc/yLOReHwt =blcK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roland, Since I was the one claiming that WSOD was gone, I'm gonna answer that. As you should know if you skimmed through the list, there seem to be several different hardware revisions of the Freerunner, all of which have subtle differences with regard to hardware. For example some people seem to never have gotten a WSOD, while for me (up to this weekend) it was a 9 out of 10 chance that my phone would give me the WSOD on a suspend/resume cycle. Also, I understand that other issues like the echo are partly influenced by environmental issues (like what provider you are using). Am I able to tell you how to get a fully functional phone? No. It depends on your specific scenario. However, I can tell you how I got to the point where I am now - at a level where I (as a user who is not dependent on his mobile phone) can more or less reasonably use my phone without it being a brick. The process I followed was (as far as I remember - this took me ~3 months after all): Flash OM2008.9 (along with provided kernel and bootloader), install illume-config and illume-config-illume, update to testing branch, deactivate auto-screen blank/suspend, update to newest kernel. I'm not sure, whether I modified the alsa state file after flashing OM2008.9, but since echo is not gone yet this should not make a difference. To shorten the process, you'd probably be at the same state if you just flash the newest testing images. This gives me at least: - - Working calls, incoming and outgoing. Other party hears noticeable echo of his/her own voice. Call quality on my side is good, though. - - Working SMS, sending and receiving - - Working GPS (used it several times for navigation already - very useful in Venice for example) - - Working suspend - no WSOD, phone wakes up on incoming calls. - - (Probably) working WLAN (finds APs just fine, I think I connected once to my own AP, but I'm using USB networking usually) - - Unreliable accelerometers - they seem to crash sometimes. Didn't check for some time, though - this may have changed. Unconfirmed (because I don't use it at the moment): - - Bluetooth - - USB Host mode - - GPRS - - Headset - - Provider service numbers (reportedly, these seem to cause problems) Remaining nuisances: - - I've been told that the echo on a call is very irritating for the other party. - - I want Raster's keyboard back :) Apart from the echo, this is already way more than what my (very old) Nokia phone could do. And with WSOD gone, 24h of battery time should be easy to reach. I'd suppose that even 48h might be possible without problems. Hope that gives you an overview of the situation. Regards, Andreas Am 08.12.2008 17:23, Roland Whitehead schrieb: I, like a great many others I suspect, have a NeoFreerunner doing its best impression of a brick on the shelf because I just don't have the time to get it to the point where it works as a phone before I start doing what I got it for - developing additional software. Monitoring these lists and the wiki periodically produces an impetus for dusting it off and giving it another go (like this past week-end's claim that WSOD was gone) before reality sinks home and either the Neo white screens or my trusty Mac grey screens. Yes there are many different distributions out there but what is very clearly missing are simple, obvious instructions on how to go from a brick to a working device - just a machine that will turn on and off, will ring, answer and make calls, not hang and not have buzzing when on a call. After that, the user should be left to get on with it but I've completely failed to get to that stage despite trying 4 different distributions. I'm really talking basic here - if you have a machine that works for you, what Bootloader, Kernel and RootFS are you using and where did you get them from? What were the core applications that you loaded to make it work, where did you get them from and which versions? What were the modifications that you made to various settings files. If you have a working machine, could you blat it and rebuild it to get to the same position as you are in now? If so, would you document your process and share it with us? I don't really care which distribution at the moment - I just want one that could claim to work that I can then start developing with. I've got my Python books out ready... I have searched high and low through the wiki and list archives for over a month with no joy. If I've missed something blindingly obvious then perhaps you'd point me in the right direction. I guess the issue is that I'm neither a hardware hacker nor a kernel hacker but an application hacker - I'm certainly not an end user in the normal mobile phone sense but I still can't get anywhere. The temptation is just to say oh well, I'll just leave it and go and play with Android or get an iPhone but that is not what I got onto this for... Roland
Re: [testing] WSOD gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.12.2008 10:05, ivvmm schrieb: Andreas Cyberfrag Fischer wrote: Hi All, Wohoo, after today's kernel upgrade the infamous WSOD seems to be gone for me. I rebooted the phone and am now running for several hours without encoutering WSOD. The phone seems to reliably wake up from suspend at incoming calls (tested only once, though) and performs quite fine after manual resume. I didn't test incoming SMS, yet. Anyway - good job guys. Now I only need a fix for the annoying echo to have a (in my point of view) fully functional phone. Regards, Andreas You said you updated with opkg update opkg upgrade But is kernel being upgraded if you are updating this way? I just wonder. Yes, the kernel was definitely updated from one git revision to another (same major/minor number though). There was a section during the upgrade where the kernel was explicitely written to its flash partition (messages about XYZ bytes written - or somewhat like that - flushed by). Regards, Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk7nSEACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwFdVQCfaJluNiZZwdclGjsiAeEIpe/I fSkAoK7rO8+HDtx692k+oHZvEfRSj2oX =TszB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[testing] WSOD gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Wohoo, after today's kernel upgrade the infamous WSOD seems to be gone for me. I rebooted the phone and am now running for several hours without encoutering WSOD. The phone seems to reliably wake up from suspend at incoming calls (tested only once, though) and performs quite fine after manual resume. I didn't test incoming SMS, yet. Anyway - good job guys. Now I only need a fix for the annoying echo to have a (in my point of view) fully functional phone. Regards, Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk6xxAACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwHOjACfSVAencuriygF19EAo7rspiNQ XbsAoK+OQb3/58JfNy8cdDBza5TsZokz =DtTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [testing] WSOD gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.12.2008 20:33, Alexandre Girard schrieb: Hi Andreas, That's a great news I was looking for :) Where to get and download this image? Hi Alex, This is on the testing branch. Flash OM2008.9, switch to testing as described here: http://n2.nabble.com/Optimization-team-update-%2811-23-%7E-11-29%29-td1595015.html#a1600801 and do a full update (opkg update opkg upgrade). If you want to stay on the safe side however, I'd recommend to wait for the upcoming stable release 200?.??. Regards, Andreas Cheers, Alex El 06/12/2008, a las 19:40, Andreas Cyberfrag Fischer escribió: Hi All, Wohoo, after today's kernel upgrade the infamous WSOD seems to be gone for me. I rebooted the phone and am now running for several hours without encoutering WSOD. The phone seems to reliably wake up from suspend at incoming calls (tested only once, though) and performs quite fine after manual resume. I didn't test incoming SMS, yet. Anyway - good job guys. Now I only need a fix for the annoying echo to have a (in my point of view) fully functional phone. Regards, Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk69fcACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwGLtQCdFYnjEw9ksxBZoRKqizeX4n9c plcAoJpUO80YDQUDrGQZYvm6NKaIcDFk =JkAo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
