Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.
On 8/31/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is starting this topic was to bring attention to the fact that probably 500 to 1000 potential developers were likely to get saddled with GTA01 phones right before the GTA02s were released and that FIC staff were not providing sufficient information about likely delivery dates. We are I really wish we could give more accurate timing information. But please understand that what you're seeing is a product being built from scratch. We're not using reference designs. We're not using 3rd party [...] Product development is messy. There are literally hundreds of components in this device, all needing to be sourced with different lead times from different vendors. If SDRAM becomes scarce, we suffer. If a vendor has yield problems, so we do we. Hi Sean. The opensource software development process is wonderful in its transparency - I think thats where a lot of the frustration about the hardware process is coming from. Your reply email gives no new information about the GTA02. Supply chain delays can delay the product, that makes sense, but surely there is information about what is expected to happen? How about saying what the production plans are? Ive read on this list both October 07 and January 08 as estimated GTA02 completion dates. The readership is left to make their best guess based on essentially rumors. Is it a separate electrical engineering team that is designing the GTA01/02 inside FIC and that is partly why the software devs are in the dark? The GTA01 is in production and its the same story. There has been mention of 'another batch' on Sep 20th, but again no announcements. How about stating 'X GTA01s are available for sale. Y GTA01s are in production with an estimated completion date of Z' and 'On date D1 we expect to stop making new GTA01s and start making GTA02s'. That would be something to chew on, knowing full well that estimates change and surprises happen. Thanks, Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 status updates please
On 7/31/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please keep us in the loop regarding the GTA02 development. How is it Id like some more status of the P1. How many phones have been made? (ive heard 1000) Have all those phones been sold? Are there plans to manufacture more P1 units? When? Basically if I order a P1 today, will there be one to buy? It'd be nice if the sales website had a count of remaining units. Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping update
On 7/18/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Pitcher wrote: I'm in a similar situation, I'm leaving for OSCON on Sunday. I will attend a BoF at Ubuntu Live Sunday night and another one at OSCON Me too; I'm teaching a 4-day Linux course next week, and showing a real phone is just somehow more convincing than holding up a printout of the I too will be at OSCON. Is there some way a few neo1973 units could be sold at OSCON? Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shipped phone questions
What version of openmoko has been flashed to the phones that are shipping? Is there a self-update tool for the base software (kernel, moko libs, etc)? Since the neo1973 will be used in the USA, what is the FCC ID? Thanks, Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to do with gta01 is to mount it in the wall as part of a home-automation system, or mount it in something that looks more like a picture frame and run a (tiny) slideshow on it. Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Let's get some digging done!
On 7/8/07, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody (=not me) submitted a Digg story: Digg it now! Tell all your friends to digg it! Register at Digg if you have Do we really want this to be dugg? 1. Its not an end-user phone. The average digg user who gets this phone might be suprized and disappointed. 2. Is there already enough demand for the existing phones from the developers and interested parties who know about it? If there is, i say let that need get satisfied first by keeping the launch low-key. If there is a huge excess of units, then this point isnt too important (but see point #1) don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Let's get some digging done!
On 7/8/07, Don Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Its not an end-user phone. The average digg user who gets this that should read 'the software for this phone is not in an end-user ready state'. of course the phone itself is for end-users/non-developers. don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB host question
On 7/8/07, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same external USB port is capable of working in both host and device modes, you just need a non-standard cable or adapters to hook it up to a The netgear WGT634U access point ran linux and had USB host mode. This provided a gigantic amount of usability and expandability. Hard drives and wifi radios could hang off the access point. Has anyone tried hanging a USB wifi radio off of the neo1973? It would be bulky but it would give wifi access from the phone to those who are looking for it. Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko at OSCON?
On 7/2/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 15:05 -0700, Dirk Bergstrom wrote: Will there be an official or unofficial OpenMoko presence at The Oreilly Open Source Conference (OSCON) in Portland later this month? I'll be there...can definitely have a bof. i'll be there. a BoF session sounds great. The question is, will any neo1973 units be there? don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
