Re: My second battery life test with the freerunner in standby
Hei Folks can someone enlighten me on this issue of battery life: it seems that the freerunner stayed alive for 16 hours and everyone seems exited. My little crappy Motorala stays alive for days if it is not used to make calls. How does this relate? Are we waiting for suspend to work? or shall we need a stack of batteries to swap? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Which image
Hello Folks so here it is the nice black box. It does boot and it could even connect to the Vodaphone network and got the LL phone ringing. great! But what now? The applications look rather skinny. What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? Any advice? greetings Redil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg not going anywhere
Hi Folks now I am trying to install some stuff on the brandnew Freerunner. Through usb0 and ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am logged into the Neo and want to install tangoGPS. However, it seems that the Neo cannot access the internet altough the laptop does have full access. A opkg update gives: An error ocurred, return value: 8. Collected errors: Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz, error 0 also urls cannot be pinged [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 usb0 default 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 usb0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# ifconfig usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 9A:57:42:23:8D:06 inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:400 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:39202 (38.2 KiB) TX bytes:36986 (36.1 KiB) I must be missing something, any ideas what? greetings Eildert -- Eildert Groeneveld === Institute of Farm Animal Genetics Mariensee 31535 Neustadt Germany Tel : (+49)(0)5034 871155 Fax : (+49)(0)5034 871239 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vce.tzv.fal.de/index.pl http://www.tzv.fal.de/~eg/ http://apiis.tzv.fal.de/index.pl === ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which image
Thanks so much for the input! One thing is clear: there are a lot of things happening. In the meantime, I have tried the qtopia snapshots from 1.) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/ this seems to be qtopia only 2.) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/ ASU April (the one that got shipped with the Neo?) 3.) http://downloads.openmoko.org/asu/ ASU from May 20 I get the impression that only qtopia has daily builds, is that correct? If wee want to use ASU the most recent is the one from 2.) i.e. May 20? If we want to install additional packages is would FSO also be an option? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which image
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Andy Selby wrote: > > I get the impression that only qtopia has daily builds, is that correct? > > No, ASU has it too > > > If wee want to use ASU the most recent is the one from 2.) i.e. May 20? > > Try here > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/ Is this not qtopia? or is ASU hidden behind this: Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080703-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
cannot SMS
Hi Folks after a dist upgrade via http://78.47.190.211/daily-feed/om-gta02/ the sms applications seems to start and die right away. When started in the konsole it tell us that it dies with a seg fault at an attempt to to allocate a widget with width and height of -11 anyone have an idea of what is going on? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu-util problems
On Sunday 13 July 2008, joseph schlesinger wrote: > Running it as root does not work, nor does passing a --device > parameter. I should mention that I've also tried a number of different > linux host machines and usb ports on each. Could it be a defective phone? This is what I need to run as root and the everything works fine: root(eno,freerunner)# cat upom #!/bin/sh /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 /bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -F iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.202 -i usb0 -d 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.200 -i eth+ -d 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.2.0/24 -i eth+ -d 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.2.0/24 -i eth+ -d 192.168.2.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.202 -i usb0 -d 192.168.2.0/24 -o eth+ -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.2.0/24 -i eth+ -d 192.168.0.202 -o usb0 -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -d 192.168.2.0/24 -o eth+ -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -d 192.168.0.202 -o usb0 -j ACCEPT iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 root(eno,freerunner)# courtesy I-dont-remember Eildert -- Eildert Groeneveld === Institute of Farm Animal Genetics Mariensee 31535 Neustadt Germany Tel : (+49)(0)5034 871155 Fax : (+49)(0)5034 871239 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vce.tzv.fal.de/index.pl http://www.tzv.fal.de/~eg/ http://apiis.tzv.fal.de/index.pl === ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Yes, TTFF less than 2min with the SD card removed. E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Kyle Gordon wrote: > Yay! Good news! If that is the case, then it's an amazing turnaround time. > The OM guys really do know what commitment to the job is :-D Indeed! just pulled down the latest image 10 min ago and got a fix after 3 minutes. Such turn around times are only possible in open source! Keep up the good work Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: > If you can't understand why people would be frustrated to learn that > something as simple as testing GPS with the SD Card in the phone > hasn't been done, then you shouldn't be selling hardware. Jay, please, cool it! How often do you want to repeat this. I hope you attitute this never falls onto your own feet. Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMS
On Sunday 27 July 2008, David Pottage wrote: > I second this. I have tried twice to start a thread...no response > On a separate note, does anyone know where in the filing system the > received messages are stored, as I would like to write a script to parse > them. Grepping the entire filing system for likely words has not found > anything. > ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bus Error
During a opkg upgrade apparently the network connection stopped because the FR fell asleep (my rendition of what happened). After booting everything was fine, except that I cannot connect anymore to the FR through USB. If usb0 gets uped through ifconfig, I get the same: bus error Any idea of what might have happened and how the situation can be remedied (other that reloading the root file system? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?
After trying FSO and installing distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk I did a opkg update and upgrade, without any effect. When looking at /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 : no wonder, it is empty. Will there be no daily update? or is this just not the right URL? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO adding packages
Hello Folks are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary ? Further: gps does not seem to be working . Is there a was to switch off/on services like GSM/GPS/BT? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO adding packages
On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote: > ps is working in my NEO with the > openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary. > I can get a fix in tangoGPS and I also can see some informations in the > zhone gps UI. did you start something? like the gps daemon or whatever? e ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO adding packages
On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > No need. The framework takes care about enabling it when the first app > starts to use it and turns it off when the last app stops using it. This is nice! But I am not getting a fix, tangoGPS is just dead. Valério asked the question if the current kernel has the GPS/SD card fix. Could it really be the case that the kernel is without it? It certainly looks like it. Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Stroller wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm sure someone posted a week or two ago a suggestion to do certain > sections first when fitting the full-body InvisibleShield, because > they said it's easier that way. > I had to repeatedly hard reset the FR by ripping out the battery. How do you handle that with the full body IS? greetings E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which applications are usable
Hello List with the Freerunner approaching I wonder which applications are currently in a usable status? Apparently, Steve's managed to make a phone call. What about SMS or addressbook? Is there a list somewhere? or does the current qemu download give an impression (its so slow its not really useful) greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which applications are usable
On Friday 18 April 2008, Tim Shannon wrote: > I love that the terminal is one of the requisite applications. This is > definitely a phone I'm looking forward to. Indeed, just imagine running vi on a phone!! The ultimate! Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QEMU slooooow
Hi List just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too boot and then trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon numbers is so slow that I never got past one entry. As I have not really seen any comments in this regards, maybe there are means to speed this up. greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: > I may sound old, but I think that the FR hardware (as well as the n810 > hardware for that matter) is more than enough, and the inovation must now > comes > from the software part. The phone downsides are not in the hardware, so let's > settle here and improve the software. > > Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new > customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For > the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. sadly enough, that is indeed the situation. What would OM do with new hardware? Another piece with great promise and no delivery. If we look at what has happened since the release of the FR about a year ago, we have to acknowlegde that not much has improved as far as usability of the phone goes. Right, there are plenty of new distros but not one that is solid as far as the use as phone goes. Basically the same applies to applications. Improvements do not come regularly as they come for instance in current betas elsewhere (like ubuntu), where things get fixed in the distr and not as workarounds. I know OM is not ubuntu or debian. But here things are not going well with little indication that the situation may improve. But then: it saves on the phone bill... end of rant greetings nonetheless Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
All very nice!!! Is there a list of FR adapted (i.e. fingerfriendly) applications? If yes I can answer th next question myself: - a music player that works - an alarm that also works who can help? Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any distro with working calls?
As of last week there is a new release of android available at koolu: http://www.koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ stable, polished, also the battery issue seems to have been solved. greetings ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
More info on standard applications
Hello folks the thaught to run vi on the command line on a cell phone really has something... but on a somewhat more serious note: what is known about the mailing/calendar/todo etc applications, anybody have an idea? The question ofcource relates to synchronization, for me preferable the KDE suite of kmail, kalendar etc. greetings tredlie ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sync from Kalendar/Address to KDEPIM
Hi Folks it seems that this is a lively list, hopefully indicative of an even livelier one once the Neo is out. When it comes to uses of a samrt phone, the thing that I really consider important is to use Kalendar, addresses and mailing on either my (Linux) laptop or the smartphone. Here, the Treo/Palm has proven useful, but synchronization was never really robust. The prospect to run the same SW also on the Neo (not treo) I find very appealing. I wonder if there is someone around who would know how to do sync for Neo-KDEPIM and who has done something similar. I have read somewhere that the Neo folks have teamed up with some Sync Company. can we have some details? greetings -- Eildert ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS track log
Hello List perhaps the information is already somewhere in the archives (although I have not found it): 1. will there be a track log of GPS coordinates available? This is probably very interesting to anybody traveling. Related questions are: 2. I suppose setting the frequency of loggings should be adjustable? 3. Any ideas about the power consumption, if switched on for a day 4. What would be the modes for log file down loads? greetings Eildert ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Are there any applications?
dear list, with a scheduled delivery date in 2007 I am a wondering what is going on in terms of software development. If this is at all realistic, the applications should be operational now. Instead, we read about the UI and its framework which sounds rather basic to me. But perhaps there is a growing list of applications already there? Only that we are not aware of it? greetings -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Are there any applications?
On Thursday 07 June 2007, Steven ** wrote: > You should be aware of them. Check the wiki: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications > > -Steven Indeed, the only problem is that progress is hard to see, most of this was already there when openmoko.org was brought up. With a release date this year it one would expect every now and then a sucess report like : "application such and such working" Even going through the devel archives does not really reveal any of this. wel, we shall see. greetings Eildert ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Dead FR: does not boot
Dear List the booting issue with a flat battery has been with us for some time, but allegedly also been solved. My FR seems to have a drained battery but no combination of aux/power and power/aux with usb/laptop and wallsocket could persuade it to enter life: it simply stays dead. Has this happended to anyone else? Perhaps the FR itself is broken? any suggestions? Eildert ps I have hackable1 (upto date last week) on it. I ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dead FR: does not boot IT NOW DOES
Just to update all of you: meanwhile the FR is alive again. None of tricks mentioned here cut, except replacing the apparently totally drained battery with that from a compatible Nokia phone. After booting I connected my FR to power and exchanged the batteries agaian and charging went ahead as one would expect. So we do not really ever have a problem with our nice FR as long as there are friends around who are willing to lend a battery. greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dead FR: does not boot IT NOW DOES
On Thursday 22 January 2009, Peter Nijs wrote: > Borrowing a nokia battery isn't difficult, but it's not good pr for the > freerunner tho. I would tend to agree ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery
On Friday 23 January 2009, wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: > Any way I can ressusitate this device ? you may need to get a charged battery for instance from a Nokia lc5 or lc6. Did it for me (nothing else worked). Once you have the FR booted you can hook it up to power, replace the battery and charge your own. greetings E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No Sound on calls
dear List as of lately, the FR has no sound when making phone calls which may be considered a slight disadvantage. Wenn called the FR rings nicely but then everything is dead: no sound. Likewise, when calling someone, nothing can be heard, not the ringing and after the connection is established also not the opposite. Oddly, the happens with the current FSO and hackable1 any idea? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote: > The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale. > In USA it's totally legal. > In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about > other EU countries. > > All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like > buying used phone and than complaining about scratches. > So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the > hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other > flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working - > anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the > phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one. > > I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me. and what about those who bought a FR from the first batch? E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Corrupted SD card, what now?
the corruption of SD cards has been on the list and been attributed to a bug connected with suspend/resume. This, currently, means that that i cannot use the 8GB card. Is there a way out for a user (other than getting the bug fixed)? -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg seg fault FSOupgrade
when trying to upgrade against testing src/gz fso-all http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/all I get a segmentation fault: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg upgrade Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:-20080729-r1 to 1:-20080904-r1... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta02/angstrom- version_-20080904-r1_om-gta02.ipk Segmentation fault some individual installs work. any ideas? greetings Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Rasterman Image...
Raster's keyboard is nice! So I tried his Image and installed fso as a phone stack. Further I like tangoGPS and also installed it together with fso-gpsd. However, tangoGPS does not show up on the desktop. Any ideas? Further, on booting zhone comes up without the illume desktop. Only issueing /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart rectifies the situation. Did I screw up something somewhere? Lastly, what repositorities do you guys use for updates? Is there a way to use both fso and om? cheers Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Cédric Berger wrote: > my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ok, that may be the (a) difference Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: > Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K what about the lowlevel? gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 308 Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
