Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: > The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your > FM car radio Or RDS Emergency messages to be able to tell the person in the car in front of you to drive faster or get out of the way through his audio system;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
Thomas HOCEDEZ writes: > Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration They have no mailing lists for their projects?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
Thomas HOCEDEZ writes: > their MiniBook. I would buy it, if it was wrist mountable; sort of a slide in mount on my wrist. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: > Here are some that are GNU/Linux Wrist - but less a watch (you can use > them as a watch): I'm not exactly looking for a watch, but something along the same size, just a little bigger and a little slicker, with no keyboard. > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/35681 > http://www.zypad.com/zypad/wearablecomputers.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201100 > http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_handhelds_parvus_zypad_wr11xx.html > http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Sevenounce-wrist-PC-runs-Linux/ You expect me to pick up any ladies wearing that thing?;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
Martix writes: > Nokia Morph concept: > http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept > video: http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept/video Pure awesomeness;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making it. I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the curvature of my arm. It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this. It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff. Please, someone start making it;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: beautiful qt based
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: > the game is over This is only the beginning;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
pike writes: > I decided to write a bunch of shell scripts Yup, really nice stuff;). Thanks. Hope you bring it to completion;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Ken Young writes: > there is really no hope at that a group of people such as the > gta02-core team, working part time with no large corporate sponsor, > will ever produce a product with hardware on a par with what the big > players are contemporaneously offering. Do you still don't know to never underestimate enthusiasts?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM Network Time
Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Searching] Freerunner
PieterC writes: > Is there anyone selling his/her freerunner [..] ? Sell it?. Are you crazy?. My precious!. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to make a screenshot
Ivo van den Maagdenberg writes: > How do I make a screenshot of an openmoko screen, without a photo > camera? import -window root -display :0 foo.png -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community Conference Room
Well, as I now have a lot more bandwidth, I'd like to again inform you of the Free the Phone Conference Room[0]. The conference room should also support video, but I haven't played much with this. Still waiting for JACK VIDEO to save the day.. The URL is: sip:free_the_ph...@esben-stien.name Dial in at any time and talk, get help, learn, develop, etc. Some free software projects have started to use a conference room and I think our community should be on the forefront of this. Some projects use an IRC bot to advertise presence in the conference room. Maybe we also could do that. Some projects also organize a BoF at saturday nights. Last time I advertised this, several people asked about SIP clients with native JACK support. This has not yet happened and I really know them all, in and out. You can however use any pulseaudio aware client, which again can exit through JACK. I use sflphone at the moment, which works great with pulseaudio and JACK. I've also recently tested ekiga-GIT and it also works pretty well with pulseaudio/JACK, if you need video. If you aim for ekiga, only the most recent GIT version supports pulseaudio/JACK. Sflphone has a core/UI separation, which is really great, but no non interactive interface has been made yet. I've also not setup VoIP on my freerunner, but now is the time and people should chime in and tell about what they've got working. [0]http://irc.esben-stien.name/mediawiki/index.php/Free_the_Phone_User_and_Developer_Conference_Room -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gprs traffic counter?
Mario Huelsegge writes: > is there an easy way to count gprs traffic slurm? -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?
Al Johnson writes: > This limitation is one of the reasons I'm still using u-boot. The > other is the inability to pass optional kernel parameters when booting > from NAND. Why not have something like grub in the boot?. With a keyboard added, nothing could be more flexible. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: eneolock screen locker
Mike Crash writes: > I have created new screen locker How about a screen locker that actually locks the phone?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qalee 0.0.3 released
Christophe M writes: > Qalee 0.0.3 is out !!! Would be nice if you told us what the heck it is, being an announcement and all. Right, so I go the webpage and I spent 10 seconds trying to figure out what it was, looking at the screenshots and all and I still don't get it. I could probably figure it out by looking at that page a little more or you can just post a proper announcement. Oh, it's a desktop environment, after spending a minute scrolling down on your webpage. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
Wolfgang Spraul writes: > Do you know other free 3D tools? http://irc.esben-stien.name/mediawiki/index.php/NURBS -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
Timo Juhani Lindfors writes: > It's "X Windows System" No, it's X Window System -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: root almighty
Max writes: > As far as I know most (all?) distributions for FR use root account > to run phone application Yeah, it sucks badly;). I sent a mail to the SHR list the other day. This issue will be resolved and future SHR distributions will not run as super user. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) writes: > remember - usb storage is block-based. it could ONLY export the > micro-sd card, and while exported it cannot be visible/mounted on > the phone, so its a lot of caveats. Is it not possible to go around this?. It would be nice if you could setup directories to be usb storage devices, so that you could tell freerunner to f.ex setup ~/usb0 to be the current usb storage, so when you plugged freerunner into a system, that system would see the freerunner as a usb mass storage device and ~/usb0 would be what it saw. Then, later, you could tell freerunner to use ~/usb1 instead and plug it into another system, which would see that. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
Nicola Mfb writes: > But we may superseed on this actually until having a well working > asterisk on freerunner Rather definitely use freeswitch;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sunlight readable LCD
Miguel Ángel Calderón writes: > * sunlight readable LCD Definitely. This doesn't affect anything, right, other than being more readable..?!?. I would also like the screen window to be scratch free. > * bigger LCD 3,5"+ You don't think it would be a little too big Neo, if the current one is 2 point something?. > * new ruggedized case or rubber shell I'm all for a steel case, military field use style;). Remember to make small holes to be able to mount the back to a series of adapters, like mic stand, DIN mount and a magnet container. > * waterproof (substaintially more costs) IP67 is how I roll. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Just Got Buzz Fixed
Got my phone back, free of buzz;). Techie said it was a trivial matter; my cost was ca. 1000NOK, about USD140. I live in Bergen, Norway, so my country is probably a lot more expensive than other places;). I'm smiling from ear to ear now;). By the way; to all people who don't expect a GTA03, 04 and 05.., you're in denial;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Stefan Monnier writes: > (if I could use it as an MP3 player, I'd carry it with me that much > more often Until a fix, you can plug in a USB headset;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call
"Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" writes: > guess we might look into something that just dumps out a raw file > via /dev/adsp. A better solution is using something like supercollider, a synth, to generate the ring tones and every other sound we need. A synth should also be an integral part of any desktop system. A programmable synth can also adapt to every situation, which a static file cannot. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Pascal d'Hermilly writes: > a well working finger-friendly keyboard is the most critical missing > feature for me. Yes, I find this issue very strange. First and foremost, it is us hackers that use this device for now and are supposed to make apps for freerunner and all, and we don't have a damn keyboard;). All this fancy pancy dictionary based guessing is maybe good for normal people writing crappy SMS messages, but not for the current user base, in my opinion. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Default IP Address on All Distributions
Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. If your network is configured with this IP range and you pop a freerunner in, it of course cause a world of pain. Please choose a more sensible default. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
Steve Mosher writes: > If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a > program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise > your hand, drop me a mail. I've talked to a local electronics repair shop here in Bergen, Norway and they said they will do this operation. There, however, should be a package which contain all relevant documentation and complete circuitry and dismantling the freerunner to help a technician easily and quickly do this operation and not waste time finding the documents. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > opkg is obviously not very efficient, both in memory and in speed I don't care much about opkg since I use debian, but is there some rationale for developing a new package management system that I can read? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: voip on Debian
TL Mieszkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > asterisk will make an excellent voip backend for the neo Asterisk is dead. Long live freeswitch. Didn't you get the memo?;) -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video-out support
Thomas Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if there are any plans for adding a micro-dvi[1], > mini-vga[2] You can't use a USB mini monitor?. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT keyboards with FR?
Ben Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am considering buying a portable BT keyboard to go with my > FreeRunner and would appreciate hearing from anyone who is already > using a BT keyboard I'm using Debian with a dinovo mini and first of all I must say that the mousepad on this keyboard is pretty awesome, though the keys are a little strange (no ctrl on right side and no meta on left, f.ex) and it's not really built for field use. I still haven't set it up right, so I run a script at every boot : modprobe hci_usb && modprobe ohci-hcd && echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on && echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset && hidd --search I need to press the connect button on the keyboard at every boot, so need a solution there. I do have problems typing in console, as it seems to just drop certain characters. Really strange. In Xorg it works flawlessly. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian -- better screen locking
Eli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When the screen goes blank I'm also on Debian. Isn't it best we use a normal screen save and lock solution?. Something like xscreensaver, but I'm still not sure it can be used without a keyboard. But having zhone lock itself is just dumb;), because it's an application, running often in a window, so if it locks, it only locks itself and not the desktop, so you could still touch the panel. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SSD Latency and Throughput
Anyone done any measurement on latency and throughput on the internal 256 Mio flash versus any general SD cards? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU - out of memory?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and luckily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made > kernel overcommit.. a tunable parameter! and... cunningly.. on the > FR (and as wel on my desktop) it's turned off! :) so... a moot point > really. :) I was more thinking of applications filling up RAM and then things will have to be paged out if you don't want things to crash/get killed. Something is definitely wrong if you're actually using the swap area on this device, but things like this are observable with vmstat. Unfortunately, you can't plug in more memory when you see that your need exceeds the capacity of the device;). A 128Mio space of memory is not that huge, especially if you want to use it for something cool and you will at some points pass this mark and things will die; given the current algorithm it might not be something you want to get killed. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU - out of memory?
Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on > the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead > of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If you are using swap something is wrong, right, but then you fix it. I find it strange that the debian install didn't make a little swap partition. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Running Free :: Call for Parts
Now that I'm out running around free, I'm afraid I'll drop my Neo and something'll break, like the LCD. There really should be a parts supply and I find no info on it. What is expected is new LCD, as it will get scratchy or it might break from dropping it on the bathroom floor, which I seem to do quite a lot during a year. Other things might be breaking the locks that hold either the microSD or the SIM, so a whole new case here is probably required. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
Norbert Hartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is exactly the opposite I talked about Sorry. Didn't read thoroughly. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating > that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing
Marcos Mezo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- citation --- > I’m working on getting Debian to work on the [..] Freerunner > --- This is what I'm looking forward to. Something like this was what I always expected to have;). A great distro like debian just getting a GSM daemon that other apps could talk to. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A very sad story...
John Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > LCD panel! The company should set up a spare parts page and I thought this would have been done already. We're all going to need new glass in the front after a while, when it's all scratched up. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it > return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm daemon and I'm very surprised it's not implemented this way. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Learning It <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio boards are not illegal. There also is a GSM project related to GNU Radio to do the whole GSM stack in software, to my understanding. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone got a confirmation by pulster?
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > c pulster himself, on this very list today. I'll be a monkeys' uncle; I missed that.. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone got a confirmation by pulster?
Søren Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I ordered the 1st of July Me too;), exactly that day.. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone got a confirmation by pulster?
kazaam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pulster got new phones on 25.07. Says who?. It's never confirmed anywhere.. > Has anyone of those who already paid for the phone got a message > that their phone is already sent to them? Yours truly. Still awaiting that email, hitting g (get mail) extremely often these days;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The Song of Arkadia
Any info on arcade games ported to the freerunner?. Old classics like tetris, pacman (njam), lemmings (pingus), nibbles and sidescrollers running through dungeons and mazes, shooting space ships and such. Fun for the whole family. I think I played every arcade games in existence back in 80's/90's and it would be fun to relive those moments on the freerunner. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visually Impaired?
John Whitmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I knew a blind person I could find out. There is the linux-blind (blinux) mailing list for blind or impaired people. Nice list for terminal junkies, too;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard
"Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=us,en -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: More HW from OpenMoko
Rodolphe Ortalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > do you think a student should have raw access to > Matlab+Mathematica+Octave > +any-other-thing-you-can-thinkof I'm an engineering student and I've been looking everywhere for a calculator with a bigger screen and better dot pitch with colors and being able to tilt the screen or attach a usb screen so I don't have to lean forward and get neck injuries. There is a free project out there aiming to produce a free hardware calculator. The big problem is that even if I found one, I might not be able to use it, because a calculator has to be certified by the state. It's really not good to use one calculator for working, then have to use a normal crappy calculator for exams. It's a problem to think of, if we're putting r and octave into a device marketed as a calculator. There's definitely a market, though, cause all calculators on the market are so damn crappy, it's a joke. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko
"Atilla Filiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Patience, my friend. I have patience, but not when getting an automated response in frigging German. I'm inches away from ordering somewhere else. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Inter-Freerunner Connectivity
"Francesco Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Making the FR a walkie-talkie device was in some kind of wishlist I > think :) We need GNU Radio on it;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No WLAN AP functionality
Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sadly no, as it's a hardmac chip and the proprietary firmware lacks > this feature. Oh, no. That's really damn sad. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rationale for ASU (and change from GTK to Qt)
"Ron K. Jeffries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the rationale for the decision to switch from the original GTK based > OpenMoko There will be a fork here at one point. There's a good bunch of us who wants a standard GTK+ environment as the main guis' for the phone. There's even some that don't want any QT on the phone, at all;). I just hope that the existing applications has been properly engineered, separating the core from the UI (MVC, three tier, PCMEF) so that it's just a matter of speaking a common protocol. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: humor
"Richard Reichenbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://xkcd.com/149/ Damn, that was funny;). I'm probably over tired, though. Didn't expect that.. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why not use forum?
"Leonti Bielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? Because web forums are a pain. I'm over 250 mailing lists. Imaging the unbearable pain of having to go to all those web forums. Web forums are also extremely bad for a structured discussion. Web forums is a kids thing, basically;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why not use forum?
"Lally Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, it's a more reliable method to isolate threads from each > other. For example, the whole "PANIC! iPhone is $200!" thread is > listed as a dozen or more threads in gmail right now. That's because people have broken mail clients which don't properly use the reference. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Click Feedback?
Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There will be NO dropouts (at least for call audio). The GSM audio > path isn't routed through the system, it's direct way It will be routed through the system in many use cases. One use case is pre processing the sound from the mic before it goes into the GSM module. Preprocessing is something I always do on my VOIP system. I apply low pass and high pass filter, a compressor and sometimes I add other cool stuff, like changing your voice or add a radio proximity bass effect. > we need a way to mix concurrent sounds (like alsa dmix is supposed > to do) in a way that's not eating up our cpu-resources. If you want to mix audio into the outgoing signal, the audio source might have drop outs because it's being preempted by other real time threads in the kernel. This will not happen in a JACK context. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Click Feedback?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While JACK is pretty cool, it doesn't cut it on embedded systems > since there is no hardware sound accelleration whatsoever. I don't understand what you mean. JACK has nothing whatsoever to do with hardware sound acceleration. > On a system like ours, JACK would just introduce latency, as in the > end it goes over ALSA as well That would be an extremely negligible latency and it would give us real time dropout less audio on the device, which is pretty crucial on such a thing as a phone. You really want dropouts in the audio when you use your system during a call?. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Click Feedback?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we were to get rid of it, we could ditch pulseaudio and go > directly to alsa. You know you should go JACK right?. Going directly to alsa for such a real time application is just bad, very bad. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?
"rakshat hooja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please go for good quality optics and maybe 3x optical zoom ..and 3CCD;). Really, though; the phone should be modular enough to be able to pop a new one in. Like the hole in the Neo, now, we should have lots of modules to pop in there. Like jibbitz on crocs shoes, this hole is meant to be filled. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko
"saurabh gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am saurabh gupta, working on speech recognition facility in open > moko All fine and dandy, but are you also looking at sphinx? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Private data protection.
"Ilja O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Current phone number would be enough information. SMS to a friend > that gives this number to you... It's like being at a party and your lighter is gone. You need a homing device to pin point which pocket it's in;). Maybe another solution here is to have an RFID on it, so you can swipe everybodys' pockets;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Private data protection.
"Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The "very" first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. That's why, if a presence security code is not typed in every nth hour, the phone starts transmitting secretly its location over all available networks to your home system;). We need GNU radio in this device, so that we can implement a tracking beacon way to find the phone. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Regarding the format, the original is in Pro/Engineer Assembly > (.asm) and Part (.prt) files. That's probably hard to digest for any > FOSS CAD software. BRLCAD[0] has preliminary support for this format. [0]http://brlcad.org/ -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The one that stood out to me was Blender. It's designed for much > more, but 3D CAD is a solid part of its job. Then you've misunderstood blender; it is definitely not CAD; it's an artistic tool lacking severely in engineering tools. > Her initial impression was that Blender is excellent for this kind > of work. Lacking splines and any kind of dimensioning, surfacing, etc, it's the worst possible tool for the job. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Circuit Diagram
Been looking on the wiki, but I cannot find neither the circuit diagram, block diagram, component list nor the pcb layout schematics. Any pointers as to where I can look?. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Case Schematics
I want to make a steel Neo case, but I need the schematics. Any reasons these are being held back?. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NURBS File
I can't seem to find the NURBS schematics for the Neo physical enclosing case on the site. Is this available somewhere? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Real Time Audio (SCHED_FIFO)
Jeff Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually it depends on how much mixing you're doing. How?. As long as you only transport audio from the microphone to the gsmd, you're screwed without real time transport. > At the hardware interface they are using ALSA. Yeah, same as pulseaudio, but it doesn't mean much when the pipe from one place to another is not running with proper scheduling and priority. > Above ALSA, the default sound server for OpenMoko is PulseAudio, a > very good audio server. It has features to support low-latency and > realtime response. Yeah, but there is no support for low latency and real time transport of audio between applications, so it doesn't help much that pulseaudio does this. If there is no reliable way to transport audio, then you will have drop outs of audio under system load. Heavy buffering is also not an option. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Real Time Audio (SCHED_FIFO)
"Brad Midgley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > tell us the big picture for what you want to do I want to be able to have real time low latency drop out free audio, which is not possible without jack. This is especially crucial for a phone or anything that deals with audio;). I've heard now that JACK has been ported to openmoko, btw. I just hope it's used as the default sound server in openmoko. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Real Time Audio (SCHED_FIFO)
"Brad Midgley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > neo is running pulseaudio which is also an audio server with an > option to use sched_fifo. Yeah, I know PulseAudio, but that doesn't help interconnecting modules in a real time fashion. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bonus Order
Isn't there like a bonus order if you order 5 neos'?, for the whole family?;) -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Real Time Audio (SCHED_FIFO)
How is real time audio done in openmoko?. For real time audio work, I use JACK[1] which uses SCHED_FIFO, but is anyone working on porting jack to run on the neo?. If not; what is the plan for dealing with real time audio?. [1]http://jackaudio.org -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
