Re: background image
umaxx wrote on 09/26/2008 09:04 AM: thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon welcome - just give me a message if you need further help. cu, Georg -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
umaxx wrote on 09/25/2008 10:32 PM: hi, i guess it is possible to set a background image in 2008.9? how, where - which file? regards, joerg Hi! I haven't tried 2008.9 yet but assuming its the same as in 2008.8 you just need to decompile the theme file (using edje_decc) ~/.e/e/themes/*.edj or the system-wide default in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj. Have a look at the resulting output (should be a directory containing images and an *.edc file) and change the background file if existant, then recompile it using edje_cc and you're done. Seemed quite a lot of work for me just to change a background but I've discovered that E has a lot of differences compared to other desktop environments and I'm starting to like the principle. I just tried it on the theme found here http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ and it worked out fine. Haven't tried on the default one though - I don't even know if there's a background image specified. Remember to use an image in 640x640 as you'll be rotating your screen :) Hope I could clear this to you and sorry for my sloppy English ;) cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
Risto H. Kurppa wrote on 08/19/2008 11:09 AM: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Yet Another Fork.. :/ I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? r I think this wiki page aims what you're looking for. I'm not sure if its _very_ up-to-date and complete but its quite useful in this state. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth proximity
W. B. Kranendonk wrote on 06/16/2008 12:24 PM: Hi List, I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their distance or relative speeds? Not in the first place as some security tag to unlock my PC or house, but to use in a game-like setting. Imagine some live role playing game, where weapons not only are simulated using acceleration, but also their speed/distance relative to each other. Any ideas on this? Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community although I think that it is relatively unlikely to work.. sounds interesting! - just manage to plug a laser pointer into your neo, blow some dust into your room and start playing around with your new lightsaber ;) may the force be with you.. Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarmclock puzzle
Alexander Frøyseth wrote on 05/13/2008 02:49 PM: Hello again I just have an idea for an nice addon or software (call it what you want) to the alarmclock Okey, let me tell a little story from real life. Every day when I go to school, I have to wake up, and now I have 2 alarmclocks, but still I manage to oversleep. Soo what I was thinking about was that I have to solve a puzzle to turn the alarmclock off, and not just push a button. One possibility is a 4 bits jigsaw puzzle like this: http://www.bimbambanana.com/index.php?p=Puzzle-alarm-clock-cool-gadgetsside=visProdprod_id=21 another, and perhaps an more easy to make is that the screen shows fours digits that you have to click in right order to turn it off. Perhaps like an antibot test on websites. I am more as an web programmer, so I isent so good to program software. NOTE: You have to have the choice to turn this on and off when you sets the clock Hope that someone think this is a good idea, and tries to program one. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Possibly the turn-off puzzles shouldnt be too hard to solve, otherwise this'll result in alot of people (including me) removing their battery, smashing their neo while you're totally woozy in the morning, not really thinking about what they're doing simply to gain a few more minutes in bed :D cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The big day.
Nicanor Babula wrote on 04/22/2008 03:58 PM: Hello everyone! When will be available this beloved device? April is almost gone. Any approximation is welcome. Thanx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'd say some weeks, but there's no official statement so far.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner
Ivo Anjo wrote on 04/21/2008 10:00 PM: Btw I was under the impression that the freerunner case was black with grey, like the 1973 on this picture: Afaik the Neo Freerunner case is totally black, the silver and orange ones have just been the cases for the GTA_01 devices. cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 10:53 PM: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 11:48 PM: Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg And if we use/create some sort of instrumental only track, clearly published under Creative Commons, to use for the phone (startup, shutdown, advertisment, ..) Of course :) I'm just kind of a lazy musician, has been some time that I've not touched my instruments ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware update
Alexander Frøyseth wrote on 04/07/2008 09:20 PM: Soo 400/500 MHz is no more? or? thomasg skrev: No, you can chose between 850/1800/1900 and 900/1800/1900 MHz. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soo I can choose from 400/500 MHz and 850/900 MHz when I buy the phone? Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Am Mo 7. April 2008 schrieb Steven Kurylo: PVT testing is in process, and I'll ask Steve to send an update within the next few days. A little while ago when I asked, you weren't sure if they are mass producing the 850 and 900 Mhz versions at the same time. Are they being produced at the same time or will we have to wait a few months for the second version? Thank you. -- Steven Kurylo AFAIK, PVT is done for an equal amount of 850MHz and 900MHz devices. Also think I remember some statement saying start of purchase is same day worldwide. HTH jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I think you're mixing up the CPU frequenzy with the frequenzy the GSM chip uses! 850/1800/1900 and 900/1800/1900 MHz concerns the GSM chip on the Neo (to connect to your telephone provider) and 400MHz is the Speed of the CPU! _ Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware update
Alexander Frøyseth wrote on 04/07/2008 09:44 PM: Yes xD I discovered for some minutes ago. I feel pretty stupid xD Sorry for that. Steven Kurylo skrev: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soo 400/500 MHz is no more? I think you're confusing concepts. We're talking cellular bands. Are you talking 400/500 cpu frequency? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Don't worry, you're not the first one.. There've been some others who posted about the same thing to the list some time ago.. _Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Digital Compass JavaFX
Wallace Jackson wrote on 01/23/2008 05:45 PM: A digital compass would be a nice feature for VIA (OpenMoko) to have in the phone as a hardware default. Is it inexpensive enough in quantity to include in the shipping release!? Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application? Wallace Jackson, Mind Taffy Design Acrobat-3D.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I my opinion, including another piece of hardware on the Neo (and in detail a device which needs to be isolated from any magnetic influences by other components) would cause big changes in the hardware layout, so for the Neo1973 it's surely impossible (or only possible with again some months of delay caused by testing, etc). But if you really like to have one on this phone, maybe you can add a little compass (no electrical module, a real compass) into one of the alternate cases, just a tiny little thing of let's say 1cm in diameter. If its really small that shouldn't cause a big problem and maybe there are some others interested in some kind of stuff like that too. Disadvantage: It'll always be there and and need to keep your phone in horizontal orientation to read it. Greets, Georg -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko wallpaper
Michael Heinrich wrote on 01/08/2008 08:22 PM: No problems here.. I think it looks great. I might make the logo and openmoko appear a little more solid though. :) Michael OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I agree with you :) But the image is great, just a little bit of magic and it'll suit well as a background for the neo .. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Jeff Andros wrote: On 11/9/07, *Georg Michelitsch* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm interested in a FM transmitter in order to for example listen to my music on my car's radio. /snip This could also enable some really cool speakerphone abilities, as long as we can then filter the audio input to remove the echo -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Jeff, no only in terms of speakerphone, also the navigational software (as far as there'll be one) may be connected through it.. There are a lot of possible ways to use that extension and I personally think that it's a very useful additional feature . . Georg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Doug Sutherland wrote: I am planning to make some PCB boards with the SI4701 and minimal parts on them in the future, will be sold on ebay (I have surface mount reflow oven). See the Silicon Labs parts here: http://www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/Broadcast/Radio_Tuners/en/Si4730-31_matrix.htm -- Doug ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi ! Just let me know (personal mail, mailing list) when you're starting up with this issue, I've been planning that too so why not developing it together if its possible? . Georg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Daniel Gustafsson wrote: Implementing an FM sender would however make the Neo hard to sell on markets where personal FM transmitters are illegal (however weak the signal is) such as Sweden. At least it was still illegal when I was living there. cheers ./daniel ahm - we're talking about home-made extensions, not about a new hardware-revision for the Neo, as far as I understood that.. -- Georg Michelitsch Sonnenstraße 12, 8071 Vasoldsberg Österreich - Austria - Autriche Tel.: +43-664-9417167 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Doug Sutherland wrote: Georg, My original plan was to design a generic add-on board for embedded single board computers that includes an audio codec, FM tuner, and optional text-to-speech. I still have that plan but may make several variants on this, I have lots of interest in mobile audio beyond what is available today. TI has chips that can convert USB audio (driverless on host) to I2S and/or S/PDIF, which would allow for some really interesting possibilities in supporting different kinds of codecs, DACs, ADCs, DSPs, faders etc. Is it only the FM tuner you are interested in? Do you have skills with Eagle CAD? I have surface mount reflow oven and can solder any part easily. I also have Eagle commercial version but at the moment do not have a lot of time. If you want to work with me on schematics and CAD design for starters that would be cool. Look at the TI PCM29xx USB audio codecs, this is a way to interface via USB to other audio devices. It is also interesting that Neo uses WM8753, as I have been wanting to work with this part for a long time, since it has dual audio codecs voice and hifi. The TI TAS3103 also looks pretty interesting. I have some SI4701 FM tuner chips here already, have their USB FM radio stick which is really a demo of the chipset, and have collected lots of info on these. I also have sample WM8753, will be getting more, and development boards for both of these chips eventually. -- Doug Doug Sutherland Proficio Research http://www.proficio.ca/ Doug, my skills concerning all that are very limited, because I've got no education going deep enough into electronics - just wanted to mention that in the beginning. Nevertheless I'm very interested to learn some things. I already can handle eagle and I'm able to understand some smaller circuits, but I'm just a beginner! My primary interest is in a FM transmitter and receiver (but your proposal doesn't sound bad, in the contrary). I already spoke to a friend of mine who's a lot more qualified to realise that than me, who's interested in building that too. (and who eventually may help) At the moment I'm quite occupied with the preparations for a big examen end of November but after this one I should have more time to get an insight into the codecs and chips you mentioned and maybe even contribute some assistance as far as possible. . Georg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Doug Sutherland wrote: Georg, The amazing thing about these Silicon Labs parts is that they require almost no external components. For example the SI470x FM tuners require a crystal and regulator, that is all, they can use headphone cable as antenna (as is done in most phones now), and they have stereo analog output and SPI interface for control and for getting the RDS/RDBS station identification and song info as text. Those analog outputs could feed right into a TI PCM2900 and then you have a driverless USB audio FM tuner. Without access to SPI though a small microcontroller would be required. Could be done with a $2 ARM7 or Cortex-M3. I haven't looked too closely at the FM transmitters or receivers yet, but I'll take a look and see what kind of external components are required. So you're not even interested in FM tuner, just FM transmitters and receivers? BTW I also have hardware based text-to-speech chips here that work really well and also require few components, they are UART input and analog and/or digital audio output, I have already made one full speech synth for someone using them and have several more chipsets here. I am actually more interested in speech based interfaces to phones and PDAs than the fancy GUIs, might be interesting to bolt one onto a Neo at some point. My phone should READ web pages and email to me and whisper in my ear. -- Doug ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Doug, I'm interested in a FM transmitter in order to for example listen to my music on my car's radio. A receiver (tuner?) would be nice in order to listen to radio on the phone. Well I think I mixed up receiver and tuner as I'm not native english-speaking.. So if I've understood right a receiver already plays the music on the radio, while a tuner passes the data to another device (in this case the phone?) .. Then what I want is a FM transmitter and a tuner :) What you've mentioned that far sounds interesting, but you're talking about USB.. Are there some internal usb-ports on the Neo or how are you planning to add this extension to it? By plugging it into the external usb-port? Your voice-to-text and voice-to-input project sound interesting too but my primary interest for the moment concerns the FM transmitter/tuner project. . Georg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asking for a talk in Austria
Wolfgang Silbermayr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello OpenMoko people! I study at the University of Applied Sciences in Hagenberg, Austria (near Linz). I organize events for our LUG, and I would really love to have somebody talk about the OpenMoko project. First off, we have some really interesting studies that relate quite nicely to the topics that are interesting for OpenMoko: * Hardware/Software Systems Engineering * Mobile Computing * Embedded Systems Design * Software Engineering and several others, for a complete list please visit http://www.fh-ooe.at/campus-hagenberg/international.html The conditions would be: * Preferably the speech would be in german, but shouldn't be a big problem if it is in english. * The speaker should have a phone with OpenMoko installed so people can see it in real life * We pay the travelling costs, although the distance should not be too far (about 300 to 400 kilometers is no problem *waving to the direction of Munich*) * I can't guarantee that we can pay anything else, but if you get in contact with me, we can talk about it so I can go begging to the responsible people. I would really love to have such a talk at our university, so please just contact me if you are interested. Greetings from Austria, Wolfgang. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHD04m1Iv7pFQO3noRAtAMAKDkR5hbQrMQ7RHjBLy9UdBqxAWUOQCgzUNV FvsUYYPK3+ehKhoJUPU9fVk= =1Txc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Wolfgang, When and where should this speech / LUG meeting take place? I'm personally interested in the Neo1973 and Openmoko so if this really happens please inform me (or send out a notification to the mailing list). Would be great to see one myself and as its in Austria (I'm living near Graz) this is a great opportunity to catch a glimpse of it .. king regards, Georg -- Georg Michelitsch Sonnenstraße 12, 8071 Vasoldsberg Österreich - Austria - Autriche Tel.: +43-664-9417167 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 09.09.2007 um 20:28 schrieb Dylan McCall: The Neo is indeed behind the iPhone in almost every tech spec except one: Openness. - integrated GPS (well, does not yet work) Well conlcluding after what I've seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D6i6vLlhGA I would say that GPS is working .. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 4 GB SD flash card does not work
Giles Jones wrote: On 5 Sep 2007, at 22:27, Ole Tange wrote: I just got a 4 GB SD flash card. It seems this does not work. It may just be this model though. SanDisk 4GB microSDHC 07190023400ZC So if you try it out with a 4GB card, try to get another one. In a SD adapter it works in a computer running Microsoft Windows. It does not work in my 2 cameras and also not in a Linux machine that is newer than the Windows machine. I have a feeling it might just be a driver issue. /Ole Does it show up at all or just doesn't mount? you may need to format as ext3 if it doesnt mount. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry for getting off-topic but I was just wondering if the Neo is able to handle any capacity of microSD / microSDHC memory Cards? (hardware-side spoken..) I assume capacity shouldn't be the problem on the side of software, right? Or are there some problems employing some newer cards (6GB, 8GB coming soon) ? Thanks in advance.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
