Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Graham Williams
Received Sun 14 Oct 2007  4:17am +1000 from Lorn Potter:
 Ryan Prior wrote:
 Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on 
 Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life 
 everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though.

 It does have support for resume/suspend. We just turn it off by default 
 because the modem seems to go wonky. If you do turn on suspending, you just 
 have to restart Qtopia to make phone calls/sms again.

 As far as I know, this seems to effect Openmoko as well, unless I am wrong.


 On 10/13/07, *Joseph Heenan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Graham Williams wrote:
   However, I have been using the Neo as my main phone for making and
   receiving phone calls and messaging for a couple of weeks now using
   the Qtopia image (
 http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php).
 Possibly silly question, but how did you manage this? For me, the 
 qtopia
 images seemed to completely empty the battery within about 5 hours
 without even making any calls so I feel I'm missing an obvious trick 
 :)

Yes, 5 hours seems to be the limit. So, as long as I plug it in to the
USB whilst working, and then my meetings and travelling last no more
than 5 hours, all is well!!!

Regards,
Graham

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Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-12 Thread Graham Williams
Not quite true that you can't make calls! Many have been making calls
and messaging. Just not all that easy (e.g., using ssh/command line
interfaces).

However, I have been using the Neo as my main phone for making and
receiving phone calls and messaging for a couple of weeks now using
the Qtopia image (http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php). 

It is quite reliable and it does demonstrate that the hardware (at
least this part of it) does work! 

But the future is OpenMoko and it is slowly getting there.

Regards,
Graham


Received Sat 13 Oct 2007 12:09pm +1000 from Ryan Prior:
 The fact is that the first version was put out early so that hardware
 hackers and developers could get their hands on the phone in advance. The
 hardware is simply not ready for consumers, but hopefully with the help of
 all the people who have bought the hardware and are hacking on it we will
 have a good product when GTA02 is launched. GTA02 will use the same
 software, and the things that benefit the GTA01 will carry over to the GTA02
 -- the difference is that the GTA02 will have better hardware, allowing it
 to be more useful and competitive in the marketplace. More hardware options
 is a good thing, and the software will improve -- so buy a phone now and get
 hacking, start writing software on your own computer and wait to buy
 hardware, or just sit it out and wait for the consumer-ready product to come
 out (in about a year, by my relatively uneducated estimation).
 
 Hope that clears up the current state of things a bit.
 
 On 10/12/07, Doug Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I have not purchased a Neo yet but I bid on one and ebay and lost.
  Just wanted to say, I hope that the focus on making calls is top
  on the priority list. It seems a bit bizarre that there is another
  version in the works when you can't make calls on the first. It
  would make more sense to get the basics of calling working on
  version one before even talking about WIFI and accelerometers.
  A phone that cannot make calls: not a phone!
 
--  Doug
 
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