Re: built-in scripting languages
My opinion -as an end user as programmer with medium experience- is that the phone should implement a stable version of a known widelly accepted scripting language and it should stick with it. That way the masses of users developers will have a stable point of reference. If they don't like it they can change it and use whatever they want (but they would have to include CLEAR step-to -step instructions for installation). -If perl version X1 is implemented it should stay -even if there is a newer better version of perl. All the programmers should have perl ver X1 as reference even if ver X2 is out and its better with lots of bug fixes. Sometimes there are incompabilities between different version of languages. **Most low-experienced programmers don't want to lose their creativity on thinking whether their program will work in newer/older language versions ** -If someone wants to program to version X2 he should state in his software that ver X2 is required and should be installed. End users will end up with 2 perl distributions but everyone would still be certain that if they use ver X1 it will work -and that is what the non-proffesional programmers might want. -Personnaly I prefer having a point of reference language version that I know that whatever I write will work-no matter what (even with bugs) ,than having a language which I can upgrade every month with critical patches other bug fixes. This is very important if you don't want unexperienced users coplaining about icopabillity problems. -If someone wants to write a very important application which depends on stabillity he can write it in whichever language or version he wants - Its important ,though,to include CLEAR installation instructions (with links to all needed stuff) for non advanced users. -If someone writes something in the suggested standard ver.X1 and want to use an add-on or a bug fix he should include it in his distibution package -or link it (if there are size/copyright issues). I think perl is a tested widelly supported language with lots of add-ons. Maybe language is better but I bet that most users are using perl atm. Summarizing: 1. Decide which version of a tested widelly accepted script-language will be used and will be pre-installed (I suggest perl). 2. Whoever want to use another version/language should include CLEAR instalation instruction (step-by-step) for the end-users. 3. Compabillity stability are keywords to getting the attention on the masses of end-users or wannabe programmers. !!! -General comment : Please if you want to comment things that are irrelevant to a subject topic (eg the GNU/Linux wars) ,please do so in a different topic. Thanks - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: built-in scripting languages
Quote : Yeah, like times when we were stuck with buggy and poor Java 1.1 in Quoting myself : 1. Decide which version of a tested widelly accepted script-language will be used and will be pre-installed (I suggest perl). Perl for example (you can suggest another lang) is used widelly. If the last stable version was ...unstable we would know it. I'm not suggesting getting the latest version of a scripting language. I'm suggesting of getting the testedstable version (even if its older). - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: built-in scripting languages
Quote : Yeah, like times when we were stuck with buggy and poor Java 1.1 in Forgot to mention that I think that a Java implementation is more important than a scripting language. (had to say that again :-) ). - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Q1: GPS software bundled ,Q2:Java support
This is my first post ,so I just wanted to give a thumbs up for this original idea :) I think this mobile will start a chain reaction that will lead to a big market change.. Question 1: Will there be any software (from phase 0) that will take advantage of the AGPS? No need for maps (as long as there is a way to create them ourselves). Can you tell us which program you're planning to use ,so we can get a head start? Question 2: I know what I want might be tough , but are there any plans to implement a java API to access some of the basic functions of the phone (ringing, sms, catalogue access) ? I prefer java because its more portable (or at least more easy to port) than C++. I believe that if you allow even a basic low level access to java apps the phone lot of java developers will turn to it .It's better to have JavaC Developers than only C ;) . Keep up the good work. I think this mobile WILL revolusionize the future. Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK. PS. sorry for my bad english :) - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community