Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Jeff Davis
BestSkinsEver is the same type of material as InvisibleShield, only much
cheaper.  Dunno if they have anything suitable for the OM though.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 2008/8/11 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got confirmation @ Jul 24
 Your item has been shipped message @ Jul 28
 And received it today (11 Aug).

 That's in Europe.
 Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it.




 I got mine too.  About the same time frame (here in the U.S.)



 how it is? usefull? some photos of the pack you received?

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Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-09 Thread Jeff Davis
Or get a phone from some generic vendor. Apple has a cool and slick one called
iPhone. Might suite you just fine.

The iPhone can at least make and receive phone calls reliably, which
seems to put it ahead
of the FreeRunner at this point.

Telling people to buy another phone if they want one that makes phone
calls is not exactly
the kind of product endorsement most people are looking for.

It's like saying Well, what do you mean you don't want this
open-source patent free hammer?  I
mean sure, if you want to get /technical/ about it, it's actually a
jelly donut that can't be used
to hammer a nail, but I'm charging the same price as the hardware
store and you get the recipe too!
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FR GPRS speed

2008-08-09 Thread Jeff Davis
What's the highest internet speed the GRPS modem on the FR is capable of?
Wikipedia gives a very broad
range for sub-EDGE technology.
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Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-09 Thread Jeff Davis

 The smartphone is both hardware and software - it's not as trivial as a
 hammer that you compared it with.



Few analogies fit 1:1.  It was just an example.

Coverage of the FR gives one the impression that it's a phone for general
use and not a development phone.  You have
to look at the wiki before you find out the phone software isn't ready for
primetime.



 The software is not finished yet. This is stated almost everywhere.



It's not stated on the ordering page or in a lot of the news coverage where
people find out about these things.



 Hence - if a person wants a ready to use phone, openmoko is not the way
 to go. I'm pretty sure you'd agree (at it's present state).


Yes, I agree, but people that bought one without knowing the full extent are
going to be mad.  It's essentially a
$400 mistakethe only real return policy stated is against the hardware
being
DOA and not buyer's regret.  With that being the case I think you really
need to manage expectations of what's coming in the box.

And we especially need to get rid of this Well FINE, go buy an IPHONE
then! attitude.  It's not so much telling someone they'd
be happier with an iphone as it the fact that one would imagine it being
said in the same tone you would use to go tell someone to jump
in a lake.

I think managing expectations is the crucial part...even slashdot had a
pretty lukewarm response to the FR, going by the comments.
Most of the discussion I've seen around the web seems to focus on the
preliminary state of the software rather than then openness of
the phone.
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