Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

[Jeffery Davis]

I mistakenly sent this response via private email to Carsten when I 
meant to post it to the list.

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Subject:Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?
Date:   Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:58:41 -0400
From:   Jeffery Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 aaah - but this is what om wants! as per will's words (product management for
 OM): Everyone should fork. Everyone should create their own distribution

 ( quoted from:
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   Subject: Re: Community contributions to core apps  features. (Was: Terminal
   forASU) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:44:21 +
 )

 this is om's intention and desire.
   

Explain to me the reasoning behind forking the software at this point.  
What does it accomplish, besides paying lip service
to choice?  I'm thinking of the Bible story of Solomon and the two 
mothers here.  What good is half a baby?  Wait until there's something
/worth/ forking.

Can anyone name a product that succeeded by encouraging everyone to fork 
immediately?  I can't think of any examples.  F/OSS gives you the 
/ability/ to fork, but that doesn't
mean it's always a good idea or a goal in and of itself.  In fact, I 
think the decision to fork is one that should be made with some 
gravity.  There's a whole world between the cathedral and
the bazaar.

 rock | om engineers | hard place. om design specifies what keyboard it wants.
 you are to fork and do your own thing if you don't like it.

   

Forking over a keyboard is silly.  Almost as silly as not listening to 
the people that paid money for your product.



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Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

[Jeffery Davis]

 silly me believing not understanding irony was an entirely german disease  
 ...

He said the intention was basically 'fork early, fork often'.  I simply 
asked 'Why?' He didn't explain the reasoning.

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

[Jeffery Davis]

steve wrote:
 Rod,

  Our QA includes community feedback. If we release early particular elements
 in the community will slam us.
  We expect that. If we hold back releases, other elements of the community
 will slam us.

  So we expect to be slammed no matter what we do. Fun job ehh?

  Armour plating is required.
   

If you're just going to push stuff out the door whenever you might as 
well just have the community inform you of any bugs.

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Intel Atom

[Jeffery Davis]

Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel 
Atom?  They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43.  Battery life would probably be somewhat less 
than it would continuing with ARM, though.

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Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

[Jeffery Davis]

 I don't get it. First of all the phone should be able to do at least things 
 that 
 a 50$ phone can do.
   

Forget $50, there are probably millions of phones that can handle those 
things sitting in landfills.

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