Re: Building FSO Wiki page
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Saturday 06 September 2008 14:40:40 schrieb Rod Whitby: > >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> >>> Am Saturday 06 September 2008 00:48:00 schrieb Rod Whitby: >>> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at > least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom > distribution and the Openmoko gta01 machine: > > BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" > DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" > MACHINE = "om-gta01" > I thought DISTRO was "openmoko" for FSO builds? >>> Yes, but this was a quote from the wiki page. >>> >> Therein lies the problem with that wiki page >> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO). >> >> It's meant to tell you how to build FSO, but instead it starts talking >> about Angstrom half way through (after the first half of the page >> duplicates other existing OpenEmbedded pages). >> > > Yeah, it looks like it's largely based on the respective text in OE's > GettingStarted. > > >> No wonder people are confused about how to build things ... >> > > Indeed. Perhaps the one who added this page should have stripped it a bit. > > Thankfully, it's a Wiki and everyone can fix this. > > Thanks to all who replied and to Hedora who went and edited the wiki page. No doubt more questions may follow from me in the fullness of time, but for the moment I'm building. I'm hoping that I can ultimately help out here. If asking questions of Wiki pages highlights areas for improvement maybe it'll save future people asking the same questions. A lot of information gets posted on this mailing list and the more of it that gets filtered onto the wiki the less questions there'll be on this list. For the moment looking forward to understanding, and ultimately helping in a more code based way. Thanks for all the good work and help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Building FSO Wiki page
Hello all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO#Create_local_configuration Looking at that just confuses, me I'm afraid. I looked to see was there a wiki mailing list as I thought that was going to be set up. No such list so I'll post here, hope somebody can shed some light. The paragraph tells you what you should not do, but not really what you should do. Should I: cd /stuff/ mkdir build mkdir build/conf touch build/conf/local.conf Then edit that local.conf file and pull stuff from org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample into my local.conf? Sorry but want to build FSO and flash it into my FR and do some work. If I can make the wiki clearer in the process then well and good. Perhaps it's just me that gets confused ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /etc/opkg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi John, > > John Whitmore wrote: > >> Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's >> contents as with so many distributions available and so many different >> repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy >> position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg >> update, or upgrade or anything as yet. >> >> If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. >> I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-) >> >> > > I installed the raster build this morning which included all the > relevant feeds for au stable. I've opkg updated and upraded with no > issues, well, outside the usual glitches you find in om2008. > > All the repos provided in the image I obtained were for > downloads.openmoko.org which is the currently active branch. It appears > the image is only modified in so far as the scripts and configuration so > as long a you don't overwrite configs, everything stays the same. That > may not be true in the future but it seems to be fine now. > > Just make sure your feeds are for downloads.openmoko.org and aren't > pointing to testing and you should be right. > > In the end, this is an educated guess so YMMV. No one has actually > confirmed any of this since I've been listening in. > > Sarton > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Thanks for getting back to me on this. I'll maybe try what you suggest but I'd like to understand that directory and it's contents. At present when I did the install I'd about five files in there and apart from the arch I don't know what any are supposed to do. I read a previous email here on Raster's build which said: >2. Add zecke's testing repository : create a /etc/opkg/updates.conf >containing > >src/gz daily-all-updates >http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all >src/gz daily-armv4t-updates >http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t >src/gz daily-neo1973-updates >http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973 >src/gz daily-om-gta02-updates >http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/om-gta02 I moved all the other files in /etc/opkg to a backup directory and just used the ones mentioned above. Unfortunately none seemed to pull in anything but I'll have to check this again later as my internet connection might have been off. I'll include the au stable and see what that gives me. I'll try edit the wiki page with the only information I know which is that the arch file should not be moved ;-) John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/etc/opkg
Hello All, Firstly I'm not here to moan at all. Love the phone love the SW, I was using OM2008.08 and it worked as my daily phone. I'm now trying Raster's images and they work as my daily phone. There have been a few lockups but in an Alpha that's expected. Now the Question that I'd like to resolve is the /etc/opkg directory and what it contains. I've looked at the wiki page "http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg"; but it does not explain the configuration at all. I could look at the manual for ipkg but I don't know is that still valid, given that opkg has branched/augmented from ipkg. Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's contents as with so many distributions available and so many different repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg update, or upgrade or anything as yet. If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-) Thanks for any help John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM
David Pottage wrote: > John Whitmore wrote: > >> Sorry can't find answer to problem. >> >> Hello all, Well my OpenMoko has arrived and I'm very happy with it. >> Thanks to all the people who've made this happen. I do hope that in the >> future I can join the contributors. >> >> Before that I've got two minor problems which somebody might be able to >> direct me to the solutions on the wiki. I can't seem to find them. >> >> Firstly my Irish Vodafone SIM card don't work so I'll have to get a new >> one tomorrow. In the mean time I plugged in a friend's SIM just to see >> if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've >> got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought >> that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me >> where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? >> >> > They are in: > > ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics > > Hope this helps > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Worked a treat thanks a million David. One step further ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Removing SMS Messages from OM
Sorry can't find answer to problem. Hello all, Well my OpenMoko has arrived and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to all the people who've made this happen. I do hope that in the future I can join the contributors. Before that I've got two minor problems which somebody might be able to direct me to the solutions on the wiki. I can't seem to find them. Firstly my Irish Vodafone SIM card don't work so I'll have to get a new one tomorrow. In the mean time I plugged in a friend's SIM just to see if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? Secondly I have a few problems which I think are probably fixed in a later version of SW. I was trying to do the Getting Started Wiki stuff and unfortunately the "opkg update" has a load of 404 errors which the wiki says to ignore. But when I do a opkg upgrade I get nothing. No upgrade is required. I assume that this should not be the case? Sorry if I've missed an obvious search and thanks again for all the effort. This is a truly amazing achievement. John Whitmore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visually Impaired?
Gilles Casse wrote: > Hello, > > A guide regarding accessible phones from the RNIB (Royal National > Institute of Blind People), list of specific phones or specific > softwares (screen readers) for mass market phones: > http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_mobphonesfactsheet.hcsp > > Best regards, > Gilles > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Brilliant Link Gilles thanks a million. I never realised that there were such devices out there. I was asking the question because I thought with the move towards keypad free phones and touch sensitive screens the blind were going to left out. Obviously not at all. That way finder looks like a brilliant application. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Visually Impaired?
Hello All, firstly I'm a listener on this list not a poster. Waiting for my FreeRunner and then I'll have more relevant contributions, if any. I'm not visually Impaired or blind but I'm very curious about them. At present on a phone there is a wee nipple, (for want of a better word) on the "5" key so that people can feel it and know where they are. (That's great but what's better to my mind is that all the Euro Bank Notes have different markers on them so that blind people know how much money they're handing over, and being handed back. Keep trying to find the markers but still can't distinguish them.) Back on point of this question. Do blind people use phones and if so how will a blind person use a phone with no keypad, (and hence the nipple)? Actually given that the person is blind you could get rid of the screen altogether? This may all seem a bit off topic but I thought that FreeRunner with the gesture stuff would be so brilliant for blind people. Started thinking that if you could tap morse on the phone and have it detected and converted into text that'd be brilliant. Perhaps Blind people have special phones? If I knew a blind person I could find out. Perhaps there's a project in taking a FreeRunner and removing the screen, (either VGA or QVGA I don't care ;-) and have really good speech recognition in it and for get the morse altogether. Could the phone read out an SMS message? what a first post! Sorry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
