Re: [QtMoko] main menu screen proposal

[Lionel Broche]

Hi,

- to define in a proper file the texts beneath the icons instead of
>   drawing them in the icons themselves, it's useful if we want
>   translations;
>
>
The  140x110 look good, but IMHO it would look even better and more
finger-friendly if the icons were square or circular. I think it could be a
good option to extend the icon to 130x130 and leave a zone at the bottom 30
lines to draw the text on top.

Lionle
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Re: New Status of the OpenPhoenux/GTA04 project

[Lionel Broche]

Great news, well done !

Lionel

On 5 September 2012 18:55, Boudewijn  wrote:

> **
>
> On Tuesday 04 September 2012 12:36:53 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>
> > see:
>
> >
> http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/2012-September/91.html
>
> > (Quality is very good - better than we have ever seen before! ...)
>
> Congratulations!
>
>
>
> > Here is a picture that shows how we feel now:
>
> I share the feeling!
>
>
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Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype

[Lionel Broche]

A couple of quick questions about the keyboard prototype:
- is this a flexible PCB? Or could it be printed on a flexible substrate so
that surface can be bent?
- what are the dimensions of the PCB? how thick should the whole keyboard
be with the buttons included?

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Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype

[Lionel Broche]

:) nice, thanks!

ok, I'll make something serious then, see if this attracts the community.
I'llstart another topic once I have the first draft ready.

Lionel



On 7 May 2012 13:17,  wrote:

> Lionel Broche  writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been thinking for a while to try a forearm-mounting casing for
> > the openmoko. A casing that you would clip on the left (or right)
> > forearm, that would be thin enough to fit under the sleeves or even
> > covered with a piece of nice fabric to look like a cloth.
> > This keyboard would probably fit well on the forearm together with the
> > screen and it would make the whole thing easier to use. I am also
> > thinking to place the antenna on the outside of the arm, above a piece
> > of aluminum foil in order to reflect the radiated power and to protect
> > the user from RF field.
> > At the moment I don't have the GTA04, but I can make some rough
> > drawings from the CAD files (I will need to download them). Would
> > there be other people interested in this new way of carring your
> > phone? I previously had some positive comments on the forum about
> > this, so I think we could probably start a small group if there is
> > enough interest.
>
> I'm also very interested in making a wearable out of the gta04, and I'd
> buy your design to sponsor its development if it were available.
>
> >
> > About the announcement itself, I think it is always good to show new
> > ideas at early stages. This makes it possible for the community to
> > orient the development of the project if they see better/different
> > ways to use it. It also shows the level of interest.
> >
> > Lionel
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 May 2012 09:41, Nikita V. Youshchenko  wrote:
> >
> > > Some more general thought: I am not sure how we should handle
> > such ideas
> > > and how this community sees its role.
> > >
> > > Should we announce/publish immediately as soon as we have a
> > prototype?
> > > And ask the community for comments and participation in
> > improving it? Or
> > > should we silently finish some design and work with beta testers
> > not on
> > > this list...
> >
> >
> > From external point of view, having more information about what is
> > going on
> > is definitly better.
> >
> > However, it is you who is actually doing things, it's up to you to
> > decide
> > if to show your eraly prototypes and collect feedback or not.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype

[Lionel Broche]

Hello,

I have been thinking for a while to try a forearm-mounting casing for the
openmoko. A casing that you would clip on the left (or right) forearm, that
would be thin enough to fit under the sleeves or even covered with a piece
of nice fabric to look like a cloth.
This keyboard would probably fit well on the forearm together with the
screen and it would make the whole thing easier to use. I am also thinking
to place the antenna on the outside of the arm, above a piece of aluminum
foil in order to reflect the radiated power and to protect the user from RF
field.
At the moment I don't have the GTA04, but I can make some rough drawings
from the CAD files (I will need to download them). Would there be other
people interested in this new way of carring your phone? I previously had
some positive comments on the forum about this, so I think we could
probably start a small group if there is enough interest.

About the announcement itself, I think it is always good to show new ideas
at early stages. This makes it possible for the community to orient the
development of the project if they see better/different ways to use it. It
also shows the level of interest.

Lionel



On 3 May 2012 09:41, Nikita V. Youshchenko  wrote:

> > Some more general thought: I am not sure how we should handle such ideas
> > and how this community sees its role.
> >
> > Should we announce/publish immediately as soon as we have a prototype?
> > And ask the community for comments and participation in improving it? Or
> > should we silently finish some design and work with beta testers not on
> > this list...
>
> From external point of view, having more information about what is going on
> is definitly better.
>
> However, it is you who is actually doing things, it's up to you to decide
> if to show your eraly prototypes and collect feedback or not.
>
> Nikita
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Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy

[Lionel Broche]

I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by
'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote
connections lately so my results may interest you.

The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the
client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system
is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating
system so the client machine does not need to be powerful.

I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather
slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really)
not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is
likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote
desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly
via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of
fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to
control the GUI of a host from a light remote client.

In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my letux
and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI of
the application selected appeared on the screen.

I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if
you need.

Lionel


On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder  wrote:

> Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no
> grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to
> you (the community) to decide.
>
> I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream
> of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop,
> via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large
> programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from
> where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch).
>
> I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid
> state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the
> ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?).
>
> Has anyone ever fantasized about this?
> Is it feasible? or Possible?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

[Lionel Broche]

ok, i will see what I can do once I have the phone and my reprap is working
:)

On 17 March 2012 18:03, Adam Bogacki  wrote:

>  Not that I know of, but I would volunteer to test it.
>
>  :-)
>
> Adam
>
> adam.boga...@clear.net.nz
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>
> On -9/01/37 07:59, Lionel Broche wrote:
>
> just adding my two pence:
> it may not satisfy every users, but has any company ever made a
> forearm-attached casing? some phone that you could clip on your left
> forearm, so that the keyboard and the screeen would be steady while your
> right arm writes down. Plus, there would be no danger of stealing.
>
> Lionel
>
> On 15 March 2012 23:10, EdorFaus  wrote:
>
>> On 03/16/2012 12:00 AM, EdorFaus wrote:
>>
>>> clip it onto the side with the USB port
>>>
>>
>>   use a standard USB keyboard module
>>>
>>
>>  Aw, man... I just got this odd image in my head of a full-size standard
>> qwerty keyboard with an angled docking port on the top - kinda like the
>> iPod docks in some stereo systems - meant for the GTA0x...
>>
>> Not really practical for carrying around in any way, but at least you can
>> avoid cables when using it at home... unless you want to charge it or
>> connect it to the LAN or something at the same time of course. :P
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Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

[Lionel Broche]

just adding my two pence:
it may not satisfy every users, but has any company ever made a
forearm-attached casing? some phone that you could clip on your left
forearm, so that the keyboard and the screeen would be steady while your
right arm writes down. Plus, there would be no danger of stealing.

Lionel

On 15 March 2012 23:10, EdorFaus  wrote:

> On 03/16/2012 12:00 AM, EdorFaus wrote:
>
>> clip it onto the side with the USB port
>>
>
>  use a standard USB keyboard module
>>
>
> Aw, man... I just got this odd image in my head of a full-size standard
> qwerty keyboard with an angled docking port on the top - kinda like the
> iPod docks in some stereo systems - meant for the GTA0x...
>
> Not really practical for carrying around in any way, but at least you can
> avoid cables when using it at home... unless you want to charge it or
> connect it to the LAN or something at the same time of course. :P
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Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

[Lionel Broche]

true, that would be easier. But it also need more electronics.

On 3 March 2012 19:25, Al Johnson  wrote:

> On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:00:27 Lionel Broche wrote:
> > Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an
> averaged-skilled
> > person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the
> > connector?
> > Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected
> > to external screens while powered, so that you could switch from tablet
> to
> > phone? I just ask out of curiosity, but it would be fun to connect your
> > phone to a large display in your car for easier sat nav, then take it
> back
> > as a phone.
>
> Why not use a DisplayLink USB display like the touchscreens at [1]? You
> might
> even find a daylight readable one for the car. Not sure if GTA04 can charge
> while in host mode though - the docs suggest not but don't say explicitly.
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> [1] https://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=16
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Re: How to bring forward the community?

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vibration is a pretty good idea though, have you tried it arne?

On 3 March 2012 21:20, arne anka  wrote:

> sounds is a no-go.
> the only sound i tolerate is the one coming out of the earpiece/headset
> when making/recieving a call or listening to music.
>
>
>  --- On Sat, 3/3/12, Lionel Broche  wrote:
>>
>>  Maybe using an audible 'clic' would be an
>>> alternative for touch screen keypads? or using an electric discharge to
>>> trigger the user's nerves :) (though this may lower the battery life...)
>>>
>>
>> Ah so you never tried fatfingershell :)
>>
>> Rafa
>>
>> PS. BTW, it uses four different sounds, so every key sounds different
>> than its neighbors. And you have (if you want) a smooth vibration
>> feedback as well.
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Re: How to bring forward the community?

[Lionel Broche]

well, I think you just have to look at the capabilities of IMAP5 to see
that the next generations of phone/tablet will have 3D support, both for
display and webcam (I think IMAP5 supports 2 webcam ports). So IMHO the big
manufacturers are now focusing on including 3D instead of designing new
concepts.

About the choice of keyboard, from what I read on this thread I think that
one of the main issue is the feedback. Touch keyboard give you a feedback
via the feeling of the fingertips, so you don't need to focus your
attention to it. Maybe using an audible 'clic' would be an alternative for
touch screen keypads? or using an electric discharge to trigger the user's
nerves :) (though this may lower the battery life...)


Lionel


On 1 March 2012 12:28, Wolfgang Spraul  wrote:

> > So what to use? Nothing to use...
>
> We should look for what comes after phones and tablets.
> What's next?
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Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

[Lionel Broche]

Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled
person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the
connector?
Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected
to external screens while powered, so that you could switch from tablet to
phone? I just ask out of curiosity, but it would be fun to connect your
phone to a large display in your car for easier sat nav, then take it back
as a phone.
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