Re: projects of interest? - mebot

2007-07-18 Thread Mark Rossman

First off I think the largest amount of time would be to calculate the
distance between each possible combination of points, and I think most
people wouldn't really have that many points anyway.  Now if UPS
decides to offload their routing onto the cell phones of their drivers
it would take forever, but most people don't really go that many
places.

Also if you set up the software to solve the TSP problem as an IP,
then used the LP relaxation as your actual problem you would greatly
reduce computation time, and get a list of possible next stops ordered
based on their weight, most of the time it would give you a near
optimal solution.

On 7/18/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 7/18/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
 You could expand this a little and possibly select items from multiple
 location lists and then select
 Find the shortest route to complete all tasks

 snip
 --Tim

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just don't expect it to do so very fast... and make sure it runs as a REALLY
low priority

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_salesman_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NP-hard

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Re: Tutorials, HowTo's, etc

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Rossman

I completely understand not being able to buy two Neos.  You should go
to wiki.openmoko.org and look up MokoMakefile.  It will allow you to
build an qemu image to run the phone software on the desktop.  As far
as documents and how-to's go, most of us don't  have a phone yet, but
once we do more information should be available.  In the mean time
since your not a native english speaker you might consider helping to
translate to your native language, whatever that may be.

On 7/10/07, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi.
I really love this project, but since (as most of us here, i imagine) i'm
only a simple student, i can't afford to buy two Neos. So i will wait 'til
october. But I would like to have some possibility to develope something in
the meantime. Since this is all  open source, i imagined to find thousands
of tutorials, howtos, step-by-step-descriptions, and so on. But the only
thing i found is a look at gtk-sort of thing. Not onyl there aren't any
Developer tutorials (on how to create something), but even there aren't any
descriptions of how to use what's inside the phone right now.
If somebody has any help on how to start programming some (simple) apps for
the OpenMoko, without having a FIC at my disposal, i would be pleased to let
my creativity flow.

p.s. maybe i could also write some tutorials, or translate existing ones..
but i must have THE KNOWLEDGE to do so.
best regards, Stefan Insam

p.p.s. Sorry for my bad english.. I'm not a native speaker.
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Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Rossman

A discounted upgrade pack would be even better. It could be less of a
discount and still have a smaller overall price.  Thats good for
everyone

On 7/12/07, Frans Grotepass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote:
 The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of
 October.  I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea.

 -Eric

I understood from his post that a discount on a complete unit for buyers of
the dev phones is also an option. Somewhere I read that it is still unclear
whether a direct transplant of motherboard is possible.


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