Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Tomas Riveros Schober ha scritto: > Hello List, > > I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is > experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on > both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not > working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having > different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). > > Hello, yesterday, in a Buzz fix party in Milan, it happen something very similar to this. One Freerunner was fixed, but the mic was busted. Luckily it was a test unit used for test by Eshopen. Another point is that the fix was tried with a traditional solder, not with a microscope soldier, so we think that this was the cause. I suggest who want to try the fix to take a lot of care, and to search for an specialist center. Thank again to Eshopen for its help to help us in fixing our Openmoko. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On 05/04/2009 23:21, Steve Mosher wrote: > The voting approach will be discussed. Basically I dont believe in > letting idiots vote. You dont want me voting on your layout and > convincing everyone with my superb rhetoric that your 8 layer design > can be accomplished in 2 layers.. you get my drift. The community will > have to have SME ( subject matter experts) They will have to have some > undemocratic powers. my view at least. > Hello Steve Yes, I think you took the point. I think, if there will be an open development, I would be better if there will be a "meritocracy" vote. Example: if there is to discuss about "use glamo chip" or not, I think is not a good idea to have all the community speaking about the xglamo, where 95% of the person speaking neither know the low level implication to use a chip in place of another (and it is normal, because not all people have this kind of knoledge). I am one of these idiots. What according me missed in openmoko was a community. Or better: there are a lot of person in OpenMoko community. What we missed was a lead. What we missed was an official voice from Openmoko. Often I took you email as official announcement of OM, as official face. But you are not a "community manager" but only a "maketing manager". A community can't be democratic. Big projects as Linux, Ubuntu, Gnome, etc. have a community that is formed by person that don't stay all in the same level: there are leaders / there are developers / there are maintainers. And between them there is a knowledge and respect because they worked to get their position. This bring people to be serious and to work collaborative. Without this there are only people telling only: "The GSM module suck / The Wifi module suck / All OM suck". Only with this a collaborative project can born, and to have success. In this case FIC have only to put the money when the project will be ready. And remember that a open project may not be democratic. Usually the best one are never democratic. Someone here a long time wrote here: Ubuntu community was not an casual thing. It was by design. I would like to add: OpenMoko need something like this. These are my 2 cents. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how > they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to > make sure this situation will never happen again. > Hello, who told you that he was fired from Openmoko? May be simply he wanted to move to another company. In every case I think is better to stop to speak until we receive a official announce (from OM or from Andy). Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner for sale
On 21/03/2009 23:34, al iasid wrote: > I couldn't find a mini-to-mini USB cable. Instead I bought a > mini-to-regular adapter and a female-to-female adapter. This was > awkward - though it worked well (if FR USB set to host mode). Also, I > used a USB hub. Thank you Rob. I think I have to buy a solder. Good luck with the sales. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner for sale
On 21/03/2009 20:12, al iasid wrote: > - tiny (2.75 x 6.5 in.) USB keyboard (and cable) Hello... I have I too a tiny keyboard. But I need the cable. (mini usb to mini usb). Can you please tell to me where you bought this cable? (or the keyboard?) Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Volume very low
On 14/03/2009 14:09, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Try org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume() > > Thank you Michael. If it is in framework, I can integrate a volume controller in the application. The range is 0..255? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mysql / firebird on freerunner
On 13/03/2009 10:52, Benedikt Schindler wrote: > Or would you say don't do the hole wheel again ... wait for the > FSO interface for phonebook etc. . So we all will use the same backend. > And programm a server/client app for easy editing and storing the sms, > addresses etc. on your computer. > > If you install Debian, you can install all the SQL server supported by Debian. I think Freerunner can keep a running instance of MySQL without problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Volume very low
Hello, I am using an application that use FSO Framework to make call. It run well, but I have a stupid problem. When I do a call I listen the other person with a low volume while the other person listen perfect to me. I tryed with alsamixer to put all the level to max, but no result. Someone has some tips to appy to a just installed deb...@fr? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Venetia 0.1.0
On 09/03/2009 20:57, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Which Phone (and/or SMS) application do you use under Debian? > Until now I've used Zhone, but now that the whole phone subsystem works > more reliably, Zhone has become the main source of problems. Also it > has various annoying limitations. > > Hello You can try Venetia. What is Venetia Venetia is a PyGtk program that use FSO framework to make call. It was written because I would like to make call with my deb...@fr but I don't want to keep open an application. It is still incomplete. I am counting to release in a few days another package (Xfce4VenetiaPlugin) that permit to have an applet showing the signal level and keeping the dialer activated but insivible. What is not Venetia It don't want to be a finger friendly application (Sorry, but I you can try to use it with your fingers) It don't want to manage SMS. I would prefer to write another application (may be with another XFCE applet) to receive and send sms (little applications that do well their job) It don't want to enter on OM200X.X (You have already a great application, why to use Venetia?) It is only an interface. If your sim is not running with Zhone, don't hope it can run with Venetia. Them are only an interface to FSO Frameworkd. What is not yet complete / Known problems: 1) It don't start if the sim is not present. It is a very stupid issue, I will fix as soon as possible 2) It take too much time to start up. It is fault of synchronous call. I have to make it asynchronous. 3) It not show the history. Ehmm... I have still to implement, but first I want to finish other things 4) (complete you here) It is available at these addresses: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1_all.deb http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1.tar.gz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1.dsc It ask as dependecies: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1_all.deb http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject.tar.gz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.dsc Like usally, please report any problem, suggestion, curiosity, etc. etc. Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: Re: [Debia/LXDE] Sephora 0.2-1
On 10/03/2009 15:49, ueli.pe...@bluewin.ch wrote:
> Hi
> I wrote an mail direct to you and this has been solved with newest version of
> sephora (0.2.2-1). Thanks again!
> Main usage for me is activating GPRS, this works perfect!!
> There are two new (minor) problems:
>
> Clicking USB:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 158, in
> toggle.connect('clicked', lambda button, name: self.activate_page(name),
> name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 180, in
> activate_page
> tabs_widgets[name] = self.create_page(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 196, in
> create_page
> section = self.build_page(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 685, in build_page
>
> select.set_active(self.device.get_power_control().get_usb_host().get_power());
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py", line 140, in
> __call__
> **keywords)
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in
> call_blocking
> message, timeout)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.ValueError:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py", line 702, in
> _message_cb
> retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
>File
> "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/odeviced/powercontrol.py",
> line 74, in GetPower
> return self.getPower()
>File
> "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/odeviced/powercontrol.py",
> line 49, in getPower
> return int( readFromFile( self.powernode ) )
> ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'N/A'
>
I have something similar:
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/UsbHost GetPower
What it show out?
To me it give:
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/UsbHost: GetPower failed:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.ValueError
May be it is the same problem?
>
> and Clicking Power
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 158, in
> toggle.connect('clicked', lambda button, name: self.activate_page(name),
> name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 180, in
> activate_page
> tabs_widgets[name] = self.create_page(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 196, in
> create_page
> section = self.build_page(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 996, in build_page
>
> label_source.set_text(_(self.device.get_power_supply().get_bat().get_power_status()))
> AttributeError: 'Base' object has no attribute 'get_bat'
>
>
>
Ops... I think the latest modification on fso-framework removed the
method GetBat.
I will upgrade Sephora.
Thank you for your report, it was very very useful!
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Re: [Debia/LXDE] Sephora 0.2-1
On 03/03/2009 23:43, ueli.pe...@bluewin.ch wrote:
> Got some Problem after fresh Install of Debian.
>
> Downloaded:
> http://launchpad.net/sephora/0.2/0.2-0/+download/sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
>
> and installed with: debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
>
> results in:
> debian-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
> debian-gta02:~# sephora
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 1614, in
> main_window = MainWindow()
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 110, in __init__
> self.activateSectionPage(tabs[0])
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 170, in
> activateSectionPage
> tabs_widgets[name] = self.createSectionPage(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 186, in
> createSectionPage
> section = self.buildSectionPanel(name)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 218, in
> buildSectionPanel
> status = self.freerunner.getResource('GSM')
>File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py", line 1154, in
> getResource
> return resources.GetResourceState(resource)
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py", line 68, in
> __call__
> return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py", line 140, in
> __call__
> **keywords)
>File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in
> call_blocking
> message, timeout)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:
> Method "GetResourceState" with signature "s"
> on interface "org.freesmartphone.Usage" doesn't exist
>
> Additional Info:
> debian-gta02:~# uname -r
> 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
>
> Thanks for hints, Ueli
>
>
>
Sorry for the late reply:
You can try to do this test
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
GetResourceState GSM
If it return:
/org/freesmartphone/Usage: GetResourceState -> 0
it is Sephora fault, else, if it give you something like:
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method
"GetResourceState" with signature "s"
on interface "org.freesmartphone.Usage" doesn't exist
the problem is the version of fso-frameworkd that is not updated.
Regards
Michele Renda
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Italian NeoMeeting (Milano)
Hello, for who want to participate, there is a NeoMeeting (Sponsored by Eshopen) in Milan (Politecnico di Milano) More details: http://wiki.telefoninux.org/doku.php?id=neomeeting For not Italian readers here there is here the program of the event: 10:00 Presentation - 10:30 Talk about Neo Freerunner Pietro Isotti 10:45 Talk about Neo distribution Openmoko e SHR (+ questions)Thomas Bertani 11:15 Talk about Neo distribution Android (+ questions) Vincenzo Ampolo 11:45 Talk about Neo distribution Qtopia (+ questions)Vincenzo Ampolo 12:00 Talk about the two "leggendary" distro on Neo Freerunner (debian/gentoo) (+ questions) Andries Radu 12:30 Talk on industrial use of Neo FreerunnerMassimiliano Bellino 13:00 Lauch offered by eshopen <http://www.eshopen.com> - 14:15 Little introduction on programming using graphical library EFL in Illume Andries Radu 14:45 Discusssion to choose what application miss on Freeruneer Thomas Bertani & Andries Radu 15:00 Coding session C: Andries Radu / Python: Thomas Bertani 17:30End of coding session, presentation of the two programs resulting and testing Thomas Bertani & Andries Radu 18:00 Conclusion - Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: > Hi > > I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to > install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step > by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option "TslibDevice" "/dev/input/event1" with this Option "Device""/dev/input/event1" In the same section add this option: Option "EmulateRightButton""1" And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
I don't know what you did on tslib patch, but now it is running very very well. I can now do a right click only with my finger too. It is perfect. We can proceed foo canonization? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
On 22/02/2009 17:57, Sebastian Ohl wrote: > try > http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb > > Wiki updated, thank you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 17:26, Giovanni wrote: > I live in Italy. > I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't > work with the Freerunner. > Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well. May be is a Vodafone 128Kb sim related problem. Someone of you tried to upgrade the Gsm firmware? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote: > I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried > was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). > Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone > Italy. > > Maybe you have a 64K... > I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3 It is the first time I listened sim problem with FR in Italy. I can tested with a Wind sim and was running too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
On 22/02/2009 11:37, Sebastian Ohl wrote: > the new packages can be downloaded from > http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1 > +fso1_armel.deb > > to get it working just follow the instructions under > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#With_fbdev_driver_from_xserver-xorg > and don't forget to change your device specification. > > The url seem to be not running. I was trying to update: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote: > Greetings OM-heads, > I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here > with me from the US. > I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but > works in just every other phone I've put it in. > I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sephora 0.2.2 available
Hello New version of Sephora. Now it is again compatible with fso milestone 5. Improvements: * Moved to lyb-pyfso-gobject library * Update to fso-framework milestone 5 * Added new indicators to power section * Modified phone section Now it require the package: lib-pyfso-gobject Warning: For pin sim locked user, there will be as short is possible a new version that will support the SIM pin. Question: Would you like to have the possibility to have sephora remembering the pin? Do you want it encrypted (It will be in every case a low encryption)? Question: Sephora need the root priviledge. I would like to know how to get it to have the root priviledges. I was thinking gtksu, but when there is gtk su active, there is no possibility to use the onscreen keyboard. For now the only way for non root users, is to launch from a terminal with sudo sephora. Here there are the links: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.dsc http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.tar.gz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1_all.deb http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1.dsc http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1.tar.gz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1_all.deb ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
> NB: I am just begining scripting; I know nothing about dbus (only copy
> paste some working lines), etc. Please be patient :D
This is not bash, but python, and it need lib_pyfso_gobject import. The
good part is that it use fso-frameworkd
But I think it can help:
from lib_pyfso_gobject import *
import gtk
usage = OUsaged()
gps= OGpsd()
usage.request_resource('GPS')
def on_gps_fix(status):
print "Fix status: " + str(status)
def on_gps_position(fields, tstamp, lat, lon, alt):
print '-' * 10
print 'Lat: ' + str(lat)
print 'Log: ' + str(lon)
print 'Alt: ' + str(alt)
gps.connect('fix-status-changed',on_gps_fix)
gps.connect('position-changed',on_gps_position)
gtk.main()
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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Hello I am using tslib with fbdev and I have no problem: I took the modified version from: http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-1+fso1_armel.deb And I added on xorg.conf: Option "EmulateRightButton""1" I tested it around 2 week ago. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
lib-pyfso-gobject 0.0.1
Hello, I worked and I cleaned (a lot the code) and I try to find a compromise that can do all happy. First of all, I gave the possibility to choose which convention to use, when coding. There is a 'python' style, where all the name of methods/property are in_this_format() and a fso style where all the methods are exact of are defined on FsoDBus. I created a shell too, that permit to explore the framework (like mdbus) called pydbus. (start with ./pydbus -h to see what you can do) And I added a test.py that show how to use. It turn on the Warning: because to try signals is not easy (I will see if it will be running only when it will be integrated on sephora... and I will need some time...) I can't give any warranty about the connect method is running (I hope only yes, but I didn't try, if you are lucky yes). Here you find the tar.gz that you can simply expand somewhere in your FR: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject.tar.gz Thank you Michele Renda Ps. Remain open only a little point, and here I want that someone anwers to me: which must to be the default style? python or fso? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Help for using "dates"
I will try to have a look on it this evening, but I don't know if I can reproduce the problem, because I use a "plain" Debian Have you a nice day ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Screen
On 16/02/2009 09:59, Sargun Dhillon wrote: >> 1. If it's possible to just puchase a new screen >> if not then >> Have a look on ebay. Yesterday night I saw there was some peoples selling a replacement screen for FR. I don't know how much good are them, but I think you can solve in a simple way. Ps. Good luck :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fso Python binding
On 16/02/2009 08:14, Guillaume Chereau wrote: > Yes but I was thinking of cli-framework where you interactively create > and manipulate the proxies objects. There the auto-completion would work > and be very helpful. > > I never listened about cli-framework... and now you made me curious. I will have a look on it. > By the way, why do you change the name convention for the dbus methods, > and make them all lowercase ? I know python convention is to use > lowercase, but in that case I would prefer having the same name as the > original DBus method (just a suggestion.) > > This was my second question. I come from Java, so the convention are "getName", "setAge". But now, thinking to pygtk, I remember that the convention was "get_name","set_age". I will fix it. Can you please confirm that the Python convention about classes remain "MyWondefulClass"? > Yes I know the pain of trying to write generic code for gobject, qt or > efl. The python Dbus library allow you to specify the underlying > mainloop you are using when you create the bus object, in your case that > would be more tricky I guess cause you use GObject as a base class for > all you proxies. May be possible though. > I don't know Qt, but I think there is something like QObject that do the same work (more or less). I want to have a look... A lot of people told me that developing with Qt is more funny than with Gtk. Have you a nice day Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fso Python binding
On 16/02/2009 03:44, Guillaume Chereau wrote: > Hi Michele, > Hello Guillaume > I share your feeling that directly using dbus in python is a little bit > tedious. > I didn't try your your code, just had a look at it, I like how the dbus > methods are directly added into the object instead of using the > __getattr__ method, it means we can use automatic completion from the > python interpreter, something that is missing with DBus proxy objects. > I don't think the code completation will never work, at least in a editor, because the methods available will be known only during the execution of the code, not before :( The good part it that this library will not need to be updated if fso-frameworkd will change. The weak part is that fso-frameworkd deamon will change, all the applications that use it will continue to need to be updated. > What I like less is that you are using GObject, which mean I won't be > able use your library for paroli. > Ops... my fault. I use PyGtk, so I thought that GObject is all the world. And I forgot that exist a world done by other toolkits. I think it needed to be called PyGtkFso or PyGObjectFso, and if the ideas is nice, it will not be difficult to create a version of the same library to run with Qt and with Efl. I need only to study a bit PyQt and PyEfl. > Also I though all the signals in GObject class had to be declared at the > class level, how does it work with your introspection mechanism ? > This is the part I like more (but I don't know how much clean it is) I redefine the method "connect" and if a signal si a signal for dbus (that I read on runtime), I connect it direct to dbus, else I contine to connect to the object. Still I have to test well the part with signals, I tested well only methods. To be runned, it need the mdbus script copied as mdbus.py in the same forlder of pyfso.py (I steal a class from Michael). > Anyway, I think it is a good initiative, maybe Mickey will consider > adding this or something similar to the framework git. > > For now I will try to use on some programs I created. But I son't think it is so good code to enter in framework. For now it is only an experiment. Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fso Python binding
Hello to all
I am writing here to show something I was working today, and I'd like to
know your opinions.
I try to explain with a few of words. How someone of you know, I wrote
Sephora. In lastest day I lost some time to trying to fix sephora with
the new fso milestone. Where I was working I realized that I hate dbus
:) Ok, I know it is very important, it is cross language compatibile,
but I program in python, and I don't like to write too much code. If I
want to turn on a led I want to do something like:
device = ODeviced()
device.getLED().getGta02AuxRed().setBlinking(2, 3)
Or if I want to react to a function I want to do something like this:
gps = OGpsd()
def myfunc(i):
# I do something here
gps.connect('fixStatusChanged', myfunc)
So, I studied a bit how to use reflection in Python and the source code
written by Michael Lauer, and I wrote a Python binding for FSO, and I
called with a lot of fantasy PyFso (It is only a transitory name,
because I think this name is already used for another project).
You can have a look here: [1]
To help the navigation, it also print the structure of the object I
created [2].
For now it is only a proof of concept. I would like to know if someone
else have the same feeling with dbus.
Thank you
Michele Renda
[1] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/pyfso.py
[2] /home/michele/Dropbox/Public/PyFso/structure.txt
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Re: Openmoko is hiring
Hello, I am very happy to listen this. Not because I am interested to work to you, but because this mean that Openmoko is in a good state, also with this crises that there is now in the world. It is nice to know that your (our?) reality is becoming strong, and I wish you all the best in the future! Thank you Michele Renda On 04/02/2009 13:54, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Monday was the first day after Chinese New Year, and the first day in > our new office in Xindian, a bit outside of Taipei, in the vicinity of > many other interesting tech companies. > So far we find lots of good restaurants all around, very nice... > Two pictures from the new office > http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view1.jpg > http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view2.jpg > In the second one you can see Taipei 101 in the background > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_101 > ). > > If you want to stop by for a coffee, please feel free to do so. The > address is > > 9F, No.276, Jiang-Guo Rd. > Hsin-Tien City, Taipei County 231 > Taiwan > > Now that we are in our new office, and in the new Chinese year, > recruiting will become a much bigger focus for us. We have even hired > a full-time recruiter, who worked for our parent company FIC before. > She will start next week. > The open positions are mostly hardware positions in Taipei, but even > though the readers on these lists probably live outside of Taiwan, I > wanted to share the information so you know what's going on in Taipei. > Foreigners willing to move to Taipei are also welcome, we can help > with work permits etc. > Without going into too many details, some of the open positions in > Taipei are Electrical Engineer, QA Engineer, QA Manager, RF Engineer, > Production Engineer, Software Engineer (low-level / kernel). > > There is one open position right now we are looking to add anywhere in > the world: > *** Paroli Project Member *** > For details, see http://www.paroli-project.org/ > If you believe you can make a difference in Paroli, bring the power of > Python to an embedded device, please get in touch with me. > > Best Regards, > Wolfgang > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
On 09/02/2009 21:17, Marcel wrote: > The wiki says it's the other way round. Anyway I tried both and they didn't > work... > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Simulating_right_click_with_stylus > > Is there a way to find out *why* it's not working? Atm I just try and fail, > this is not too productive... :D > I just reinstalled Debian on my FR. I will try, and id I will see it is not longer running, I will fix the wiki! Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Boards 50% off from Truebox
On 09/02/2009 12:22, Antony King wrote: > > You can't blame us for currency rate movements - and publically > slagging off competitors is unprofessional no ? > If I order a FR to you, and you are not able to sell to me, and you charge me the transaction/other costs too, I call this unprofessional. > > FWIW, out of all the orders we have ever shipped, /both/ unhappy > customers have posted to the list. > > As I said, we have them in stock, our bank allow us to do credit card > transactions so they'll be out the door as soon as the card clears. UK > shipping normally takes about 2 working days. > I am happy so. Your work, like the Pulster one, is important for all us. I hope you (You, Pulters, Openmoko and all the other resellers) will have big bussiness, to get out loved/hated phone to be one of the most sold phone in the world. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community Updates/February 6, 2009 released
Hi Paul Listen to me: Take a good holiday, in a place very far, where you can relax. You are a bit too much in angry with the world. There was no reason to react so. Brenda just forgot to mention the work team. I think we all know that X.org is not done by Openmoko. Regards Michele Renda On 06/02/2009 12:08, Paul Fertser wrote: > > WTF? > > What the hell does it suppose to mean? > > Why did you write nothing about the real X.org progress? About what > works and what doesn't and how to compile the driver? > > Is X.org driver a community project or does OM pay the developer (and > you even haven't mentioned his name!)? Who and when is going to > implement xrandr support? And X server is an important part of every > distribution, don't forget about it. > > No single word from OM about the X work for months. Are you going to > continue this tradition? > > There's no single word about kernel work as well. Are you sure nothing > happened in these days? > > I think if you prepare these "Community updates" you're supposed to > follow the developement and mention all the really important stuff. > > And to those who will say that i should have edited the draft myself > on the wiki, i say that i'm not the wiki editor, i'm not the OM > employee and i don't know many details that are important > anyway. Moreover, i don't like (and can't do it well anyway) editing > text. OM has a dedicated editor, i suppose it's reasonable and fair > enough to expect this work is done by him. > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On 04/02/2009 21:29, Al Johnson wrote: > > That sounds similar to a problem with numptyphysics which I think was fixed, > though I don't know the details. That used to draw lines from the last point > of pen up rather than the first pen down. I certainly don't see this with the > sketch app in FSO MS 4.1. > Yes, I remember too. I think I have to do a good format / reinstall :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
Hello Martin On 03/02/2009 21:15, Martin Renold wrote: > As a workaround, try to disable pressure sensitivity: > Edit -> Settings -> Mode for Input devices -> Disabled > > If someone wants to debug, the code is in gui/tileddrawwidget.py around line > 120. Of course it could also be the driver's fault. > I think the problem is not on your soft, but in our driver. We were experiencing the same problem in other programs too. Thank you the same for the hints. It can help us for other situations. Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg->deb
On 03/02/2009 22:43, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated > regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the > file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script > to convert from one to the other. > > Before I spent any time on this, has anyone beaten me to it? > > Hello, I think you are speaking about a "alien" for opkg :) I don't know if exist a package for this. The problem is not to convert a opkg in deb, is pretty standard. The problem is to manage all the dependency. The better solution is according me to maintain a list, in the wiki, with a list of software present only as opkg, and one list of software present only as deb, and package all this software.. I think Navit must to be one of the first that need to be packaged, because, with Tango Gps, are the only software to use in efficent way our FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
I foward this to ML, because I don't know if the email from Martin is accepted by ML. On 03/02/2009 21:15, Martin Renold wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 10:26:12PM +0100, Michele Renda wrote: > >> The only problem was the sensitivity of the touchscreen. It happen that >> when a person put the pen UP the screen continue to >> think that it is still down. I think it can be fixed by software, but I >> am not so sure! >> > > As a workaround, try to disable pressure sensitivity: > Edit -> Settings -> Mode for Input devices -> Disabled > > If someone wants to debug, the code is in gui/tileddrawwidget.py around line > 120. Of course it could also be the driver's fault. The nokia internet > tablet community had very similar issues with 0.5.0 (still unresolved I > think), including different pressure sensitivity on different areas of the > screen: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16079 > > bye, > Martin > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On 03/02/2009 17:18, Al Johnson wrote: > It seems there is pressure info available from the hardware, but that it's not > been possible to get it consistent over the whole screen. For more on what's > actually being done see: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters > I'd like to ask, if someone installed this program (or another painting program) if has problem when is drawing. I explain: go on upper conner and draw something. Then put the pen up, and make a point in the bottom part of the screen: To me it happen that a line go from up to down, like I never putted up the pen. Someone else is experiencing the same problem? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: > Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and > openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images > both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No > busybox either. >Any pointers ? > It is not a bug, it is a feature! It is the result of the "back to basic" project :) Ok, sorry for the joke, but it was too strong :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On 02/02/2009 23:05, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > these look as if the FreeRunner’s touch screen actually gives pressure > input to the application. Is that really the case? > I read from [1] it support "pressure input" and on some tables it run. But I don't know if really FR is able to give pressure indication to MyPaint. [1] http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MyPaint 0.6
Hello to all First of allI want to say thank you to Martin Renold, that has created a very good program to extract the artist inside us :) His program, is called MyPaint, and when I saw it, I thinked direct to Openmoko Freerunner. I found on GetDeb the package for architecture i386 and amd64, prepared by Joao Pinto. I took the .dsc and the tar file, and I compiled with a debuild. The package compiled perfectly on FR whitout any changes, and in a few of minutes I had my .deb for armel4. They did a perfect job :) I tried the application on FR and this was the result: [1] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/2009-02-01-050308_480x640_scrot.png [2] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/2000-02-01-051141_480x640_scrot.png It run pretty well. It is fast enough (in Debian & XFCE). If would be nice if someone would make a opkg package. The only problem was the sensitivity of the touchscreen. It happen that when a person put the pen UP the screen continue to think that it is still down. I think it can be fixed by software, but I am not so sure! If you want to try it but you don't want to compile with debuild, here there is the precompiled package: [deb]: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/mypaint_0.6.0-0%7Egetdeb1_armel.deb [tar.gz]: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/mypaint_0.6.0.orig.tar.gz [diff.gz]: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/mypaint_0.6.0-0%7Egetdeb1.diff.gz [dsc]: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/MyPaint/mypaint_0.6.0-0%7Egetdeb1.dsc Best regards Michele Renda Ps. If you reply, do reply all, to keep the cc persons, that are not in ML. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Free file hosting
On 02/02/2009 11:05, Margo Koppelmann wrote: > > Maybe this - http://www.getdropbox.com/ > I just was here, The client is opensource, it ia available for Ubuntu too, and the site is nice and fast. It also permit to share a folder. For me is perfect! Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Free file hosting
On 02/02/2009 10:23, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > How about > > http://projects.openmoko.org > http://savannah.gnu.org > I can't use [1] because there are Debian focused package. I can't use [2] because I don't want to open a project, only to publish a package that I only recompiled for FR :) I need only a place where I can put a .deb a .orig.tar.gz or a simple screenshot! Thank you the same for the hints Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Free file hosting
Hello, I know this subject is not too much OM related, but it can help me to distribute software for FR. I have some application for FR I would like to share, and it would be very useful to me. Someone know a place where is possible to host some files for free? (Max 10-50 Mb) I need to have a folder where I can put my files, and other people can access via browser without a registration. I had a little server with apache, but now... i think he need a bit to relax. Thanks you in advance Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sephora 0.2-1 available
On 01/02/2009 22:41, vale wrote: > > everything seems to work as it should, thank you :) If you refer to xfce - > Menu it does work without problem, even if sephora is running. > > sephora is very helpfull for gprs :) only i have to run zhone to put the pin > of the simcard before gprs can connect. is there a possibility to do this > from sephora? > Yes, of course. The only problem is that I will need some time to test it, because, I want to be sure there will not be problems. Testing another application, a little error, drained my sim credit! Now I want to be sure to don't lock it :) Thank you for your suggestion! Have you a nice evening! Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sephora 0.2-1 available
Thanks to Davide report, I added some code to check if sephora is launched as superuser. You can find the new package to the same address: https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download If you experience, problems, errors or you want some new functionality please reply here! Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sephora 0.2 available
On 01/02/2009 16:23, vale wrote: > i had to "apt-get install menu" first then i was able to install sephora, > which starts fine now! > Yes, It has menu as dependency. Can you please check if all is ok with your menu? (expecially if you use xfce?) Thank you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How my FR is used!
>>> Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry >>> >> I'm not OM developer (hmm, ok, developing is my hobby), but I'm using >> FreeRunner in daily use... >> I own a FR, but I use a 5 eur phone. I like more to use my FR as a netbook, with Xfce, Debian. Ok, this is not the best use of a FR, but I am happy so. I am working to integrate a dialer on Xfce, to use it as a netbook with a phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sephora 0.2 available
Hello to all. When I choose the name Sephora, I never thought this name was a female name. So, now, after "she" let us to wait as only a girl can do, I am happy to show to the world Sephora 0.2-0. The first news, that I thing will interess to none, it that now the source are available under Debian way. This mean that it can be downloaded with a simple "apt-get source sephora" and build with a simple "debuild". In a future, after I solve some tons of lintian warnings, is possible to find it on Debian fso repository. Other changes you will find using it, they are not too much, except that it is runnig. I have to thank again Hubert Haas for the work he did with German translation! You can download sephora going here: https://launchpad.net/sephora/0.2/0.2-0 (it is a temporary solution, so I hope to move to a better location in a few of days, may be to Alioth). Another thing: in postinstall command the package give the command: update-menus If someone report problem after this command, please report as soon here, so we can avoid to create problem to other users. Have you all a nice day. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
On 31/01/2009 15:49, arne anka wrote: > who knows? there's no realiable timeframe for when gta03 may be available, > afair. > maybe, when you give some hints to your location, someone owning an fr > already might make him/herself available to show the fr in the flesh and > demonstrate your scenarios? > Yes, I think is a very good idea to understand well is something fit our need. Because speaking is easy to have an idea, but only touching something a person can understand if something is really what need. I am in Torino (Italy) and own a FR, so if someone what to try my FR we can meet. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
On 26/01/2009 00:47, fredrik normann wrote: | ... I can only blame my self for being stupid don't blame yourself, this are things that happen :( I think what you are thinking about is possible to do. I was thinking for something about this. Now I have something else to complete, but when I will finish, I will take in consideration your idea. I think is something a lot of us need. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sephora not working any longer?
Hello... I think a lot of time you read this: work, real life, wife/girlfriend etc. I really apologize for delay. In this moment I am at work. At 18.00 (GTM+2), I will be at home, and I will complete to package it until tomorrow! I wish you a very good days! Thank you to Davide, for the suggestion you gave to me, I will apply it after packaging Sephora. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem in fso-frameworkd
On 12/01/2009 01:06, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > The moment mdbus exits the resource will released again. You need to > have a program running that can keep the resource requested. > Thank you for the info. I was thinking that frameworkd was ignoring how it was called (if the main program exit or not). Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem in fso-frameworkd
Hello I have a question about FSO framework. I think there is something strange. I would like to know if is good to open a bug report. I use deb...@fr updatet until today, with fso-frameworkd_0.8.4.3-20081215 Let suppose I am starting with a just started system: To be able to use the GSM subsystem I have to enable GSM: how to do it? 1) mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device Enable FIRST PROBLEM: If I call 2 times this, the frameworkd stop to run... or better, if I try to make another GSM call (for example: "mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device GetStatus" the answer is org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply I think it would be better to have the possibility to call n times the Enable function. SECOND PROBLEM: How I can check is a section is enabled? It woulrd be nice to have a function like: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device GetAbilitation GSM to know if it is enabled or not. THIRD PROBLEM: I thought that I have to use the functions shown with: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Usage The problem is that if I call: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Usage RequestResource GSM it seem to do nothing, because if I call: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Usage GetResourceState GSM the result is: /org/freesmartphone/Usage: GetResourceState -> 0 Thank you all Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 to OGG converter
On 10/01/2009 06:17, rakshat hooja wrote: > Can someone suggest a good MP3 to OGG music converter? > > Rakshat I use with good results mp32ogg Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?
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Re: Strength int to bar conversion
On 05/01/2009 17:20, Helge Hafting wrote: >> If you only look at signal strenght, yes. But you should also take >> signal noise in consideration. >> >> You can have 100% signal strength and still not hear anything useful due >> to noise... much less make/receive calls. >> > > Is there a noise reading too? If so, paint the > strength bars with green, and then paint red noise bars in > the same place. If there is more signal than noise, you see just how > much. If there is more noise, then everything is red and you know > why it doesn't work. > Yes, but it seem to be that in fso-framework there is no info about noise level. Is possible that the value I get from: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device GetSignalStrength is a number that contain value that take in consideration the signal strength and the noive level. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Strength int to bar conversion
On 05/01/2009 15:54, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > If it's a 4 bar system, shouldn't you try to use values close to steps > of 25 ? I was thinking this too, but the problem in real life is that bar are more linked to the quality of conversation, than to a proportional correlation with the strength of the signal. I explain: let suppose that I have strenght = 26, i have 2 bar. but is possible that with strenght 26 I can make a normal conversation, so the person can say that the bar are wrong. In my city is difficult to see the strength < 80. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Strength int to bar conversion
Hello to all... Here for you another question: From fso-framework, I receive the signal strenght as a int 0 <= i <= 100. If I want to present this value as well know "vertical green bar" (4 bar) how according you is better to transform i to bar? I am currently using this: if strength >=90: bar = 4 elif strength >=80: bar = 3 elif strength >=50: bar = 2 elif strength >=10: bar = 1 else: bar = 0 But I am not sure if the values I choose were good. There is a standard? Thank you all. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2Gb Mobile DRAM
Hello to all I just read this: "Hynix Semiconductor Develops First 2Gb Mobile DRAM" http://tinyurl.com/84f72s Someone is just thinging to GTA03 ? :) I think with it I could install GNOME or KDE4 on it (Ok, I don't know how much usefull it will be)! * * ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)
Il 30/12/2008 12:44, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: Thank you Rakshat, Gora for all the informations! Ps. Yes, I missed 094, but I inserted it. Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)
Il 29/12/2008 13:45, Carl Lobo ha scritto: > Try > > http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf > > Seems to be accurate from first glance. > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Michele Renda > wrote: > > Hello to all Indian Openmoko Users, I am preparing the Indian dialplan: I have some (for you) stupid question: 1) All your mobile phone number usually start witt (092/093/092/097/098/099) so your international phone number start with (+9192 / +9193/ etc.) ? 2) In the provided pdf file there are only mobile phone number. There are some city name. What it mean? Is the city where the sim is sold? :) 3) In the same pdf I saw: RIM ‐ RELIANCE INDIA MOBILE (CDMA) CELLONE‐ BHARAT SANCHAR NIGAM LIMITED TATA INDICOM (CDMA) that seem to don't have any prefix. Is correct? Thank you for your help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 30/12/2008 04:30, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > A question: if you always dial a local number with the international and > STD prefixes (which is what I think you are suggesting here) - under > what regime will you get charged??? > > As a local call, or an international call? > > Could get *VERY* expensive :) > > BillK > If think the phone company are enought intelligent to undestrand how to carge you. For example: I live in Italy (+39) I can call 333 123456 or +39 333 123456 and the price is the same. Or, bettter, when I receive a call and I save the number on phoneboot it arrive as +39 333 123456. I hope this is valid in other countries too! Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 17:18, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > I suggest to work with E.164 numbering scheme only. In this case, you > can populate your address book in full international number, without > taking care of your location (i.e. don't add prefix when outside of > your area / country). > > Now, it will be useful and really nice to have an presentation number > shaper. It will automagically arrange the number you enter or your > caller party number in a nice fashion, depending of your local > preferences. > > But remember, today, with VoIP, some operators did not present number > according to the ITU or RFC formats. So it will be hard to catch all > the possible scenarios. > > BTW, it's not so hard to detect your operator's country, E.212 specify > operators numbers and names, so FR could adapt the rules depending the > operator ;) > Yes, it is like a render. About VoIP, usually they have their prefix, so it will not be difficult. In every case, if I can't know a number format, I can fallback on a simple format. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Hello, thank you for your complete email! My idea in about these points: a) Who now has a freerunner is someone that is a bit an advanced user. And I think a lot of people don't like all these ambiguities on phone number. I think a phone number must to be as unique is possible (in must not be different if I have to be called from a person that live near to me or from my uncle that live in Japan). So I'd like to force (ok... not really forced, but encourage) people to dial the number with international prefix. (but with some ticks to don't press too much buttons) b) Internally all the number are registered on this format, that I think is the most correct: +XX, then every phone number is rended according some rules very easy with spaces, dash, etc. c) Because I think it can interest someone else, if I have success to manage it, I would like to separate the "Parse logic" from the main program logic. In this way it could be used by other programs (If someone is interested can contact to me). It is for now a Python class. d) I'd like to avoid to use a specific class for every coutry. For now (until I will not find some very big problems) I would like to have a simple big text file with all the configuration. I did for Italy and seem to be pretty fast. e) In every moment everyone can remove this formatting funcion and to fall back on +XX format. f) I'd like to don't add only formatting information, but also some other info as country, town, type (fix/mobile) and whatever you want. Best regards Michele Renda Il 29/12/2008 15:16, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: > frankl;y - i did some research into this. the number of ways you can write > just > a SINGLE number (just thinking of a few): > > +61 413 123 456 (full intl from anywhere + is supported - until recently > japan didn't support + as a intl dial prefix) > 0011 61 413 123 456 (including specific intl call prefix instead of + from > .au) > 0018 61 413 123 456 (specifically use a different intl call provider from .au) > 001 61 413 123 456 (call from japan using kddi telco) > 0041 61 413 123 456 (call same number using japan telecom telco) > 0413 123 456 (call number from within .au) > > thats a mobile number and for 1 country only. i covered just some options on > calling it from 1 other country too - now look at all countries. now a local > number adds a few levels: > > +61 2 1234 5678 (full intl) > 0011 61 2 1234 5678 > 0018 61 2 1234 5678 > 001 61 2 1234 5678 > 0041 61 2 1234 5678 > 02 1234 5678 (call from anywhere in .au to the number) > 1234 5678 (call from the 02 area code - i.e. NSW only) > > note the last one adds a call "from inside area code". > > look at: > > http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm > > for some of the insanity that is just intl dialling codes - not to mention > within-country area codes - and hell, even per telco. > > in reality after looking at this a bit i got to the conclusion "crap - this is > just going to need a filter plugin system where someone writes a formatting > blob of code AND a number canonicaliser (to canonicalise ALL numbers to a > single explicit/unique format - eg +61413123456 for example). the plugin would > nee as input the current telco and country (get it from the gsm modem) and > then > the number - output would be either a canonicalised number so it can always > match numbers for caller-id etc. correctly OR a "formatted number" which may > add spaces, +'s or -'s in it as per user preferences (and don't forget it may > want to color-code it... or even replace the +61 with a country flag (a .au > flag for example) much like skype does. if you call within a telco on a mobile > in .au - depending on telco. sometimes the calls are "free" within the telco > (japan has this too for softbank last i checked). sometimes rates are just > lower within a telco - so being able to also throw in some icon for the telco > might be nice - or something to indicate it will be long distance, or a > freecall, or high-charge (phone sex numbers?) etc. etc. > > sop once you expand the problem to its wider scope of basically not just being > able to convert some shorthand phone number into a uniquely matchable numeric > string but also being able to "interpret it" (format it, etc.) you really want > to just make a plugin arch. then just write a plugin for a country you know > well (your own) and have others write ones for theirs - make sure you have the > ability to call the right plugin in the right circumstance. now you have split > the problem up and let people solve it for every bizarre situation out there > without you needing to do all the work :) > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Thank you for the very complete explanation I think the config for france will be very very short :) Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:54, Peter Strapp ha scritto: > In the UK the format varies depending on the length of the STD code (The > digits following the country code). Most STD codes are 5 digits long (4 > when using international format). City STD codes can range between 3 and > 6 digits. The most common formats are shown below. Wikipedia has an > excellent article on UK number formats - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_telephone_numbering_plan > > International > +44 7xxx xxx xxx Mobile Phones > +44 1xxx xxx xxx Landlines > +44 2xxx xxx xxx Landlines > +44 20 London > > National > 07xxx xxx xxx Mobile Phones > 01xxx xxx xxx Landlines > 02xxx xxx xxx Landlines > 020-- London > > Peter. It would be so nice it all the country would be so easy :) Thank you for your time Michele Rneda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swiss numbering plan
Il 29/12/2008 14:07, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > Documents sents off-list. > > Swiss Gov. agency is OFCOM : > http://www.bakom.admin.ch/themen/index.html?lang=en > > Yes, I received them. Thank you a lot! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
> > Hi, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_conventions_for_writing_telephone_numbers#United_Kingdom > is about what i'd use - if you need to use international codes then just drop > the 0 and add +44 but that's not how i usually see numbers written. > IIRC 08* numbers can't be used as +448* but i may be wrong. > Also there will be the whole range of shorter operator codes which people may > need to save if they have a lot of different ones for different things on > their > network (I'm assuming that your asking about this for the contacts lists). > > > Hope this helps (instead of the opposite), > Thank you for your answer. It saw now this page on wikipedia it is a very good starting point! I just watched some interesting links, thank you. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:38, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > Not really an issue, > except for using a "+" like you do will totally confuse people here ... > > I am trying to make some ideas :) In this moment I am writing a dialer, and I am implementing a intelligent formatting functionality. About the first "+" yes, I am afraid people will be confused. So what I am implementing, will be easily deactivable. ( or better, deactivated by default). All is done by a config file (a very long csv) and this will implement two killer feature: feature, and number type recnowneldge. > I think that if you try and implement a global one size suits everyone, > you can only separate numbers with spaces (say every 3 or 4 digits) - to > do anything more complicated you will need to look into > internationalisation (or possibly user selectable from a number of > choices) as everybodies ideas are different :( > > Ive seen some discussions on the asterisk list about how telephone > numbers are allocated and designed across the world and its basicly an > anarchic nightmare :) > I like nightmare :) No, really, I want to try to make it cleared > Try googling - there is enough detail to keep you happy for a long long > while ... > Thank you for your help! Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:45, Carl Lobo ha scritto: > Try > > http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf > > Seems to be accurate from first glance. It is really what I was searching for Now I have on what to work on ... :) Thank you for your help! Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: > It varies a bit in India, but one common format for landlines > (typically 8 digits) is +91 XXX ABCD EFGH (the XXX is the area > code, which is prefixed by a zero from within India, and can be > upto 5 digits), e.g., +91 11 4277 0045 from outside India, and > 011 4277 0045 from within India. > > Mobile numbers need no area code, and are 10 digits, typically > written all together, e.g., +91 ABCDEFGHIJ. > > Thank you for all the info. Do you know a site where there is the list of prefix code in India? Something similary to: http://www.comuni-italiani.it/tel/index.html Thank you a lot for your time! Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > It's not so easy, because there are many codes inside a country. > For example, switzerland: > > +41 79 xxx xx xx > > But for voice boxes : > +41 860 xx xxx xx xx > > Special services > +41 [8-9]xx xxx xx xx > > > The idea would be a syntax to allow the country specific need to be > applied (aka numbering plan). > Yes, this would be the idea. I am just working on this. I did it for Italian number. and I got very good results. Can you please give me a link to a site where is explained the switzerland prefix list? (if exist) Something like: http://www.comuni-italiani.it/tel/index.html Thank you for your time Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Il 29/12/2008 13:20, Roland Mas ha scritto: >For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## > (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international > prefix) Thank you for your answer. I have a question: this is valid for every number? (both Fix and Mobil?) And for you... for example... when you dial a number, is more easy to read a number in this format +33 # ## ## ## ## ? and the last question... there is a rule in France to separate a fixed number / mobile number? Thank you for your help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How do you like to read a phone number?
Hello to all I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to separe it with some spaces or signs: for example in Italy when someone give me a mobile phone number I usually write: +39 347 123456 Or if it is a fixed number: +39 02 123456 or +39 011 123456 But I know in USA is more common something like: +1-212-123456 Please, who has some time, can you please write your country (Italy, France, etc.) and the way how usually is normal to read a phone number in your country (with international prefix) The format I use to descrive is this: +39 ### * or +1-###-* (where # replace a char, and * replace all remaining chars) Thank you a lot for your time Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Il 26/12/2008 20:14, hadu...@centre-cired.fr ha scritto: >May I kindly suggest that the community newsletter is a good place to > add links with a brief description of important emails ? Here is the > draft of the next issue, help is immensely appreciated: > >http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/December_29th%2C_2008 > Yes, this is what I had in my mind. I was knowing about the community updates, but I was not knowing that them were saved in a wiki. So I think is better, when I see something interesting, I can simply add this to the wiki. Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Il 26/12/2008 14:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ha scritto: > What about "Stage of GTA03 development" ? > It seem to be a better name (but it think it will be more gossip than a stage of GTA03), Until now Iwould like to add there two items: http://n2.nabble.com/forum/Permalink.jtp?root=1664400&post=1803187&page=y http://n2.nabble.com/forum/Permalink.jtp?root=1664400&post=1672599&page=y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Il 26/12/2008 14:10, Minh Ha Duong ha scritto: > Put it on the wiki, but please do find a better place for it rather > than "Email not to lose" ! > I accept any suggestion! Reading all the email, I found a lot of email where some people give very important informations,that I think some other people can be interested on. I too don't like the title "Email not to lose", so please, who have suggestion, please reply here. It just want to be a list of link with date and a brief description. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
I think this email is giving a lot of explanation. Is ok to put this on Wiki? (In a section "Email not to lose"?) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
Merry Cristmas - Buon Natale - Craciun Fericit to you all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Il 23/12/2008 00:30, jos ha scritto: > I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. > Can you help me please? > It is simple. First of all you must to have Debian installed. Than you have to install lxde with the command: apt-get install lxde This command will install a metapackage that will install all the package needed to get lxde running. Now you should be able to get it running with the command: startlxde4 To get it running automatically you can edit your .xsession: #!/bin/sh startlxde4 (Ps. I am not very sure about the last step. If someone know better how to launch lxde please correct me). Ps.2. I saw that lxde can be configure to appeare like XFCE. Nice.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: > someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any > experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and > functionality compared to XFCE? > is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin > work (ie is there a standard systray)? > Hello, yes I was. I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain panel and plugins like XFCE. You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All configurations can be done via gui. Please, if you try it, please report your impressions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Thank you for your very clear explanation. Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70
Il 20/12/2008 23:00, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ha scritto: > Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription > options before going on vacation. > Hello Michael. According you will be ok to remove the reply to address the address "community@lists.openmoko.org" from daily digest? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Debian on FR wiki suggestion
Il 18/12/2008 10:50, Davide Scaini ha scritto: > ps: for michele only: sephora unfortunately doesn't work with new > framework... or is just my fault? No, is not your fault. The new framework changed a lot of thing, and now, according me, is more rational. All the program that use the frameword (and sephora use a lot it) need to be adapted. The good news is that already I fixed sephora, but i didn't released it, because I was thinking sephora (and more generally Debian) was not too much used. Now that I know there is at least an user :), I will try to release in a maximum of two days a version with the apported fixes. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Debian on FR wiki suggestion
Hello to all I am working on a cleaning activities on Debian on FR wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I'd like to receive your segnalation about errors or improvement that can be done. Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Il 17/12/2008 22:36, Tim Dobson ha scritto: > I can use sshfs on ubuntu intrepid with dropbear on the freerunner (FDOM) > > I think macfuse is the same theory/same code so :-/ > > maybe use the -v flag to show us some verbose output... > > Tim I apologize. May be my problem was something else. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Hello Il 17/12/2008 21:05, Boštjan Jerko ha scritto: > I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount > directories over ssh. > Which sshd server are you using on Freerunner? If it is dropbear the problem is that dropbrear seem to be not supporting ssh mount. You have to switch OpenSSH. I hope it help to you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Il 17/12/2008 11:19, Tilman Baumann ha scritto: > Name a application that you would have expected to be made by the the > community first but not has been delivered yet? > (Something quirky but obvious or just in dire need) > > Where do you think has the community let you down? Name a aerea where > you would have expected more community thrust but has failed. > > Where do you think could any person do the most for the project right > now? Think of if that person would be ideal and have all the skills needed. > And then, which skills are in most need right now and in the future? +1 : The first interessant questions I read in this tread ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Il 17/12/2008 00:28, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ha scritto: > Cinterion mc75i > If someone need, here the specifications: http://www.wmocean.com/cinterion-siemens-mc75i/1007431/datasheet_scalableplatformmc75itc65itc63i_175016.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
I think the programs that use FSO must to be udpated. Now the FSO interface is becoming more clean. I am now working on sephora to get is again working, and I saw that now I don't need more a lot of "trash code" I wrote. Il 15/12/2008 01:20, Sargun Dhillon ha scritto: > What about all the existing FSO consumers? Is there any way in DBUS to > provide a compatibility layer? Additionally, what if we need to > operate the modem's power independently of the resource (things like > if you have a thread that restarts the modem when there is an > exceptional condition). How will these work? > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > wrote: > >> Am Monday 15 December 2008 01:05:37 schrieb Michele Renda: >> >>> watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there >>> is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I >>> remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. >>> >>> Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use >>> the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? >>> >>> If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? >>> >> Use the resource interface and everything will be handled for you: >> >> http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html >> >> -- >> :M: >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
Hello watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dale Maggee ha scritto: > On this note, can anybody point me to a piece of software which will > mass-convert all my mp3s to ogg at the press of a button? It would need > to preserve all my ID3 Tags etc. We're talking thousands of files / > gigabytes of data here... I used oggconvert, it is command line but work very well. Ps. before to use, try with a little ammount of files to undestand well how to use all the options. Best regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkksEXIACgkQSIAU/I6SkT3uZACcDdDCC56qbvUObweoEv61K9z6 un4An3tX31y/gc0C86lCIS5/bJSVIcxD =R/SR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian][OM2008][FSO] Found an easy solution for universal right- and middle-click
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: > Does this work for you with xserver-xglamo? It doesn't here. In xserver-xglamo i saw no way to make a right click! Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkpa5IACgkQSIAU/I6SkT1LoACfVB/Utu5fQCFP4Jhd9GNK4PY7 cvUAniWGUf7qSCtPY9O/3EvEsO2UKpj7 =mkXC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It happent to me too, some months ago. It is possible to solve the problem in different ways, you can try to boot with a "non debian" image, download the install.sh script, and do only the stages: mount, kernel (in this way it reinstall only the kernel) I don't know if it can solve your problem, but can be a good points to start. Michele Renda Paul ha scritto: > I must admit I had just started the upgrade command and went off to do > different things... > > What I recall seeing at the end was the mention of a problem making a > backup link to uImage.bin after which the upgrade exited with code 1. > > The SSH session was still fine, the GUI on the FR itself had died, > however. After pulling the battery, things started up again, but they > leave me with a dark screen (after a small flash of seeing X starting). > > Would someone know a nice way to get the FR running again? > > Thanks! > Paul > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkpNFkACgkQSIAU/I6SkT3JGwCfSJUkRZ2Ezud5CZaOf2uZhCKg iscAnjRWvtOtehyAfxNXcHKgxOigvxgW =sT4G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > for the same screen as currently used or at least the same > quality but bigger and a keypad. Finger use for the current screen is > pretty much a failure. (not impossible but as far as text input goes > pretty much failed) Same for me: 1. Bigger screen (With this resolution we can permit) 2. Same resolution ( I like it a lot :) 3. Current touch technology Regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkmvJ0ACgkQSIAU/I6SkT0V/wCfTeKrtfijXxS3Ah6mtHcM8IbH q8wAnjv4v5jSWlKkts5NiW516vwqCmiA =23uE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for your answer. I bought GTA02 and I am really happy of this buy. I hope to buy the next major revision! I am not still using it as my daily phone (to say the true I hate phones), but I using my free time to develop it. About the lesson, I think it was very important to learn it. To accept closed HW pays a lot in short term, but the true values is something different! Please keep up this great work! Michele Renda PS. Some hints on future OpenGL chips can arrive inside the next GTAXX versions? :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkdfVUACgkQSIAU/I6SkT1SqgCbBDzzNcUjB86NhyW9tEvC6wEh yz8AnR1JiDaauT1yQ8i8J+GfFk03DXQk =ZDDn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: General GPS Question
Matthias Camenzind wrote: > Shouldn't it be possible to get the own position from three signals from the > same satellite? > The result would not be as exactly as from three or more but even better then > no result. > Why should it not work? No, because GPS run calculation triangulation from the signal coming from 3 different points. It the signals arrive from the same point, it will be impossible to obtain your position, because the signal itself doesn't contains any position info. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 3
Davide Scaini wrote: > ...your function is really nice because zhone uses to leave the leds > really pimped... i prefere not to burn my eyes! > maybe we can ask something similar to your flag to zhone guys... but > please don't remove it! ;-) Hello I just released Sephora 0.2 alpha 3 CHANGES: The main changes was the introduction of the GERMAN translation. I'd like to public thanks Hubert Haas, who worked a lot to translate all Sephora in German language. He did a very good job! Other minor changes are: Fixed GPS time sync button, added a hide screen section button, to solve Davide's Zhone issue. Propouse: I added a proxy configuration setting. Who think it can be usefull? It will be better to move them into a new tab? (i.e. Internet) Like usually you will find the new version here: https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download Enjoy it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well done, by me too! It helped me a lot to follow what happen to Community! Thank you Minh Ha Duong wrote: > Hello everybody, > > welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th > issue. The two big news are the launch of opkg.org, an application directory, > and Openmoko engineering team focusing back to the basics on Improving user > experience. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/October_19th%2C_2008#Applications > > Contents > > * 1 Images > * 2 Applications > * 3 Good fixes and discussed issues > * 4 Community > * 5 Outside Openmoko > > Images > > Things were rather quiet on the distribution front. Rasterman's October 11th > images (source) were put online. This is not really a distribution, but > rather a demonstration that illume runs well and is so beautiful, for others > distros to grab. We also saw daily SHR image builds online, no release yet > but available for testing. And Qi, the next bootloader, recently got resume > support.Testing shows that it is much faster than uboot indeed, but no > release yet either. > > Applications > > Everybody applauded when Tobias announced http://opkg.org , an online > directory of applications (think Freshmeat, Tucows...). The database is > community-driven, everybody can register and index applications. In the flow > of community developped utilities, I noticed: > > * the initial release of OpenMooCow, a nice, funny and useless bovine > noise simulator. > * Optimizations on Rotate. This is an interesting example of competition > and cooperation (community development, if you prefer), because there are > many versions being developed in parallel, with ideas jumping across all the > time. > * The Gestures GSoC project developper managed to convince his academic > instructors to let him code on the FreeRunner for his degree. Future > developments coming at http://AccelSense.org > * Auxlaunch is a very simple, finger-friendly application launcher and > window switcher for the Freerunner. It appears when the "AUX" button is > pressed. > > With respect to porting other applications to our favorite platform, I read > that Intel's made powertop actually runs on the FreeRunner. This is an very > handy utility that allows to measure and therefore optimize power usage. > Also: > > * FBReader an e-book reader programme now available for Debian and 2008.8 > * Sander ported Pingus the free lemmings clone, for OE based > distributions > (it was already available on Debian). > * In addition to minimo, openmoko-browser2, and midori, we saw a bunch of > light and fast web browsers announced on the mailing list: Fennec), Dillo > (ipk), NetSurf and links2. That makes about seven, working more or less well. > Choice, choice, choice... > * The same is happening for music players: pythm, openmoko-mediaplayer2, > qtopia media player, deforaOS-player, qmmp, sonata, quasar. Thomas's K. also > started a mediaplayer. So far I think that your best friend is mplayer from > the command line interface (and on 2008.8, I think that mplayer is directly > connected to OSS, so installing OSS compatibility packages probably help. And > removing pulseaudio also saves tons of CPU cycles) > > Good fixes and discussed issues > > Many good news: > > * There is a fix for ticket 2038 about Qtopia USSD requests, so that > dialing "*123" or "#4" should work soon. > * There is a fix for ticket 1024, the GSM keeps reregistering bug, a.k.a. > bouncing Calypso issue. The workaround is to prevent the modem from entering > deep sleep, and it has been commited to the QTopia images already. > * Powersaving patches landed in stable-2.6.26 on October 8th. Note to > application developpers: the best way to blank the screen to conserve power > is the fbdev-ioctl method. I think that xset s 5 should do it. Thanks to the > Harald and the Swisscom research project ! > * OM announced two hires: Ray Chao, to work full-time in Taipei on the > infrastructure, and Christopher Hall, a very experienced software engineer. > * Infrastructure-wise, unstable development of OM is moving back to OE. > > Too many bugs remain, see Test reports for example. Most of the grief heard > these days was about Digital Audio Playing and Wifi. I would like to make an > unrequested announcement for the sake of the good vertical communication: > Kernels currently has the APM power management interface is still compiled > in. This has been deprecated for years and is doomed to go away. Hopefully > apm -s will still work for suspend, but userspace applications that still use > the deprecated apm interface SHOULD take action, preferably sooner than > later. > > Community > > * Openmoko's engineers reunited for a 3 weeks workshop in Taipei. They > decided to focus back on the basics, that is to leave the Installer,
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Also if I don't use KDE, I'd like to see akonadi as Pim managed... Our mission must to be to don't replicate the work done by other people, and KDE person did a good job Florian Hackenberger wrote: > On Thursday 16 October 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> Imho this should be a key point. It's quite obvious that a good PIM >> stack is vital for a portable device. > > Have you considered using akonadi? The KDE guys are quite approachable > and IMHO they have done their homework with akonadi. You should really > talk to them before taking a decision regarding the PIM framework. > Adapters for various existing frontends could be written quite easily > AFAIK. > > Cheers, > Florian > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
