RE: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
What about http://www.dynawa.org/? milan -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Timo Juhani Lindfors Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name writes: Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making it. Why Linux? I would like my watch to consume as little energy as possible... -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
--- Original Message --- From: Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: 16.7.09, 22:08:31 Subject: Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments and we managed to fly clear of the ship just before it exploded, and thus we saved all of humanity with a Freerunner. I had wondered what happened to that ship! md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC). Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make machines like HTC Universal a real free phones Milan At 22:51 12.6.2007, you wrote: Jonathon Suggs wrote However, suggesting that people shouldn't be expressing their interests about features no matter how niche/picky/whatever is just plain wrong. I specifically said, in my summary paragraph: By all means give them feedback, tell them your desires, etc. But please don't complain at them when they let you know that the GTA02 isn't the end of the line. That they're working on follow-up models. That they didn't put your must-have feature in the next rev. Nothing in my comments suggested that people shouldn't give them suggestions. Just don't expect them all to make it into the phone or complain when they don't. There will always be complainers, that is just life...ignore them. It is, indeed, the complainers that I was commenting on. The one that I quoted was complaining that stuff was being hidden from us because FIC is working on new specs and hasn't shared them yet. However, my frustration (if you want to call it that) is the missed delivery date. They set a concrete date, missed it, and then just told us soon. I don't think that is very professional. Missed dates are not exceptional in this industry... - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
Becose is clear who is a foe and who is a friend Sorry you are to blinded to understand... At 00:31 13.6.2007, Steven ** wrote: Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't give them the information. And that's better than FIC how? FIC is giving us the information! How is that bad? -Steven On 6/12/07, Milan Votava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC). Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make machines like HTC Universal a real free phones Milan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
(correction) Because is clear who is a foe and who is a friend Sorry, you are already too blinded to understand... At 00:31 13.6.2007, Steven ** wrote: Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't give them the information. And that's better than FIC how? FIC is giving us the information! How is that bad? -Steven On 6/12/07, Milan Votava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC). Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make machines like HTC Universal a real free phones Milan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
(sorry for my english) I'm subscribed for this this thread for about 6m now. I don't want to be rude but: 1/ 99% of this thread is about an unrealistic things to be implemented on a non existent (underpowered) device. Who in the World cares about things being discussed in this thread? People wants to use their pones, to make calls, send sms/mms/emails. I'm being tired to read over and over about these obscure requirements and ideas posted here. Animations like on an iPod? Buy an iPod! 2/ I believe we are going to be a victims of a huge manipulation. There is a company like FIC. There are some adventures like Sean who are looking for their fortune. What's the way? To offer to companies like FIC a product like Neo with reduced costs. Why the costs are reduced? It's simple. There is bunch of people around the globe waiting to spare their time to help. You just have to pretend to be one of them 3/ As you can see, the 'openness' of this project is at least in question. As time goes by, there is more blah blah then some concrete information. There are some vague information about GTA1/GTA2 but overall, the entropy is going to 0. Milan At 01:02 13.6.2007, Andrew Becherer wrote: My mother told me to never feed the trolls but when I see an obvious misrepresentation of the opensource and free software movements I have to pipe up for posterity and the google cache. Not to knock the work of people like cr2 (who based on a Google query is an awesome resource for Linux on proprietary handsets) but xda-developers.com is an entirely different ball of wax than OpenMoko. I once had the opportunity to meet with Peter Brown (the executive director of the Free Software Foundation). Peter told me that one of the greatest things about Richard Stallman is his role as a reference point for all of us involved in opensource and free software. We can each measure how free we are based on where we place ourselves as compared to RMS. He is THE free software benchmark. That said Richard Stallman stated his only objection to the Neo1973 and OpenMoko was the closed source GPS code. The Neo1973 and OpenMoko are just about as free as a phone can be and it is my understanding that the GPS code can be replaced with free software thereby making it a free phone! Let's compare this to the xda-developers site. Currently on the front page of xda-developers is the following news item: For years and years, xda-developers has offered access to a collection of ROM images for 'our' phones. These images, often released by mobile carriers or device resellers, contained a version of the Microsoft Windows Mobile OS (or one of its predecessors) as well as customization added by one or more OEMs in the chain. FIC with its Neo1973 hardware and OpenMoko with free software are creating a truly open platform. Trading in hacked up images of proprietary software distributed against the terms of the licensing agreements isn't the type of freedom of which I would want a point. Should the Neo and OpenMoko come to pass they will be a true alternative to proprietary phones. FIC and the all developers who participate in the development of OpenMoko should be applauded and remarks such as yours should be ignored. -- Andrew Becherer Undergraduate, Computing and Software Systems University of Washington, Tacoma ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki is open
Congratulation! Great job. Milan At 16:43 14.2.2007, you wrote: It looks like http://wiki.openmoko.org is open to public :-) -- Tomek Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How many Neos?
Bad guy again :-) : To Sean: How many Neos have to be sold (and in which time frame) to keep FIC happy? I think this is pretty important and we, as a community should help to achieve this target. If Sean we fail, FIC will probably show no mercy with the beloved platform. Am I wrong? Please disregard this post if the regarding info is considered confidential... Milan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Free Your Phone
At 20:21 22.1.2007, Dave Crossland wrote: On 22/01/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure they might take a few community-sponsored ideas and might even claim them as their own (and sell new closed phones), If you write free software for the OpenMoko platform and use a good copyleft license like the GNU GPL, you can be sure that no one will ever distribute proprietary versions of it. -- Regards, Dave It's not about stealing ideas or work from a community. It's about using a community to do the job you normally have to pay for. How many units they are going to sell if there is only standard PIM software suite available? Zero. If someone is going to increase the value of the device and making it competitive are developers who will make applications for the platform. You can hire these developers, to have them in house - in both cases you have to pay them OR you can use guys like us to do the job in our free time and just use and control our addiction to hack whatever has a cpu ram. I think we are going to see this 'business model' more and more in coming years since a few companies (like http://www.slimdevices.com/) has made it's fortune from being bought by other old fashion companies (like logitech) after a community add a substantial value to the original subpar product or idea... It's time now to get something back. It would be nice for a community developer to get a share of the company each time he/she makes a new 'selling' application :-) Milan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
