Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Hello., i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux Openmoko was before his time and set new aspects to open source and open hardware. Thank you Sean, Harald and all related i not named here. With kind regards Patrick Am 14.05.2013 06:30 schrieb "Liz" : > On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 > Harald Welte wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, > snip > > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until > > today out of his personal pocket. > > > > Regards, > > Harald > > Thanks Harald and Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone
Hi Nikolaus, i hope not so. Am Freitag, den 04.01.2013, 13:22 +0100 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > As analysed above I doubt they are interested in Ubuntu Phones. They > want to see it running on any phone. I think it will be the same as with computers. You have Windows preinstalled and 90% of the Users will use it. And on computers it's relative easy to change the operating system. On a mobile you have much more optimization to the hardware. The iphone has only his success because the software fits optimal to the hardware (speed, touchscreen, etc.) - of course android has now done the same - better user interface, faster, etc.) I think it will be bad marketing, when we see phone X with ubuntu, when it's slow, you can't use the hardware buttons, etc ... Perhaps it will run with optimization, but it think the normal user will not do it. ubuntu phone needs for me a label on the hardware. with kind regards Patrick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone
Hi Nikolaus, thanks for the great work von gta04. Perhaps it would be a good idea to inform Canonical about your project. gta04 will be a good testing plattform for them and perhaps they can contribute in different ways to the project. with kind regards. Patrick 2013/1/3 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > Hi, > > Am 03.01.2013 um 11:22 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > > > Hi all, and especially Nikolaus, > > here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems they write: > > "We have the needs of [...] OEMs and ODMs in mind in bringing Ubuntu to > > the phone." > > Yes, this is great news! > > > Keeping in mind huge Ubuntu's users base, this might be quite a > chance > > for GTA04 or it's successor, to have a lot of new users and a way enter > > mass production. It is also a chance to supply mass market with open > > hardware devices. The tricky part is to provide the device before others > > do, and provide it with decent, flat chassis. > > Yes, if we really want to aim at the masses, this would be the way. Be > very fast, > i.e. the first to get new technology and get it into production before > anybody > else does. This gives a first mover advantage and allows to sell at a > higher > initial price (skimming strategy). > > > Am I thinking right, Nikolaus? > > Unfortunately, this does only work for Apple or Samsung and a handful of > other OEMs and ODMs. They already have the money (through investors > and past success) to acquire any new technology exclusively before anybody > else can get it. And they can pay the best engineers they find on the world > so that they don't work for anybody else. > > By this they can make small, slim and nice looking devices with innovative > features (display resolution, e-ink, flexible displays, etc.). And Apple > and > Samsung are even designing their own ARM chips... > > Unfortunately we are running far behind their position :( and the only > currency to put on the table we have is community spirit, ingenuity and > volunteers work. > > So we have to use a different strategy. Not aim at the masses, because > we are a too small organization to fulfill their needs (lowest possible > price). And not focus on any specific software on the device. > > Therefore I think we have to do it differently: be open to anyone, but > focus > on the needs of our special interest community. Enable our community to > port this Ubuntu to a GTA04 and new models (which should not be a major > challenge since we already have Debian and Replicant). > > And provide some hardware features the big brands don't provide but are > interesting to our open source minded community: e.g. open schematics, > replaceable battery, RS232 interface, extension options, DIY case, etc. > > This differentiates our activities from the other "OEMs and ODMs". Of > course > we have to sacrifice some big wishes: slim design, really low price, latest > technology others will show at CES etc. > > If anyone is interested to work on porting this Ubunto edition, please > raise fingers! Support to do that is available on the gta04-owner list. > > BR, > Nikolaus > > > > > P.S. Yura: when starting new topic, it's better to start new thread > > instead of replying to some old thread. > > > > -- > > Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz > > Linux Registered User #377521 > > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?
Hi Sean, Am Montag, den 21.03.2011, 21:22 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: > Thanks for your kind words. We'd love to make a lot more devices for > you all. But our resources are tight these days. We are working on a > third device. But it's only in the early prototype stages. WikiReader > is going to occupy the majority of our time for a while. We really > want to make it a retail success. so i hope you sales enough Wikireaders so we can see the next device very soon :) with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?
Hi Sean, it's great to hear from you :) Am Samstag, den 19.03.2011, 20:40 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: > Hi Patrick > > What would you like to hear in an official statement? > > We are very focused on making WikiReader a retail success. We sent a > newsletter out in January talking about our progress: > >http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b982f5bdf55759b5b47661379&id=17f3fdc0f8 > > 3 times a year (quarterly) we update WikiReader's content. Usually > with new languages and added Wikis (beyond just Wikipedia). i have not seen such a newsletter so it was a mistake by me. But i have not found it on http://thewikireader.com/a/blog/ > Believe it or not, WikiReader is expensive to build. The quality is > extremely high quality. We specifically designed it to last for a long > time on very simple AAA batteries. This required special components > that aren't commonly used in electronics these days. I know its not so easy and cheap, but you have hard competitors on the smartphone market. I own a Wikireader so i like the idea :) My father is very happy about it. His only problem is the display, because it has no background light (i know the battery). I don't know if the problems are solved in a new version (i have to look for a update). My last problems was. - Table of contents would be very nice - the overview block from the wikipedia (where population, president, etc. are listed. For example in a article about a country) - kinetic scrolling is a bit messy to see where you are on a black/white display ;) So last but not least. My question about a official statement. How looks the future? I hope i can buy the third Openmoko device after Freerunner and Wikireader :) with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?
Hi Christoph, when Openmoko Inc. still exists i hope we get a official statement from them, for the future of Openmoko Products. When i look at the Wikireader i have not seen any updates since months. It's not easy to sell original Wikireader for 109 Euro against 79.95 Euro for the Medion Wikireader. I think Openmoko has not a good price for you ... As in the discussion in the other thread and in our personal mails (last year) i think the price is still to high. with kind regards Patrick Am Freitag, den 18.03.2011, 09:59 +0100 schrieb Christoph Pulster: > Hi, > > AFAIK Openmoko sold some Wikireaders to Medion AG, which resell these > rebranded. So, no new product and yes, Openmoko Inc. as company is still > existing. > > I still stock the original Wikireader and of course the Freerunner. > > Christoph > Openmoko Shop > www.pulster.de > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko / Medion Wikireader?
Hi, i have seen a new product in a german onlineshop: The Medion Wikireader. http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/876441/?WT.ac=876441 Has Openmoko now a cooperation with Medion. Does the Company Openmoko still existing or was it sold to Medion? What brings the future - new devices? Many Questions. with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements
Hi Sean, Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:34 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: > Just about everything is done in Python that has to do with parsing. > So you should be fine. If you are interested in developing, get our > codes from github, let us know when you have something good, and we'd > love to pull it back into future releases. > > Feel free to email us if you have any questions! I have looked into the code a bit and have a few starting problems. Perhaps you can write a small howto about generating the files for the wikireader: - Which base files use the wikireader for converting => XML Datadump? - How works the converting process where i have to store the data? - Is it possible to use only one file for converting? * so it's possible to generate own content - not a wiki. For me it would be very helpful so i can concentrate on the parser and can test it directly. Perhaps you can describe the process to convert Wikipedia XY into the wiki.dat format and describe how own content can be integrated. From the git checkout to a working wikipedia XY. with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements
Hello, i own a Wikireader since a month now and i am happy with the base functionality, but i have a few ideas and improvements and i am looking for other users they owns a wikireader (and develeops for it). Openmoko has not stopped the development of the Wikireader, but i think it can be useful to have a nice community around the project. Till now i have only found the following ressources: http://thewikireader.com/ http://dev.thewikireader.com/ http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader and see not a list or any other communication - i think the community list is not so wrong :) ==Improvements:== - http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschland - There is a small block on the right with information (population, language, capital, etc.) I think that a very useful imformation - how can we add them to the Wikireader? - Table of Contents would be helpful to get a overview about the content of the whole article - searching in a article could be very usefull - The scrolling it a bit poor, because you can't read anything on the screen when you scroll - on the community list was a small patch discussed: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058462.html That patch works no more, but from the descriptions i find it very useful. A new version from maleadt was published in September: http://github.com/maleadt/wikireader/downloads It's unstable and not as inuitive as the first path but it is a start for a nice usability on the wikireader. ==Problems:== - A other problem is that tables and other special layouts are not interpreted from the parser. See for example: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kfz-Kennzeichen_in_Deutschland On the Wikireader you get only a list from 0-9 and A-Z without any license plates. So how can we fix the problems and get new features in? I am only a python programmer but i hope i can help. This Thread should be a starting point to discuss new features and collect bugs - i think that should help Openmoko, too. with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking down reasons for segvaulting applications
Hi, is that not a normal enlightenment (window manager) error message? I think it will be useful to start the script from the command line. Then you get the error output directly from the python interpreter. with kind regards Patrick Beck Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 20:39 +0100 schrieb Ivo van den Maagdenberg: > My python app ends regularly with a segmentation fault and offers to > save a log by means of a gtk dialog. The actual log contains very > little helpful info. I'd like to know how to catch more fish. > > " > Error Signal Information: > /usr/bin/xyz was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault. > > Output Data: > There was no output > > Error Logs: > There was no error message > " > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Neomis - a computer version of the electronic game Simon
Hello Valéry, great Game! It's great usable with a touchscreen :) Thanks for that. with kind regards Patrick Am Mittwoch, den 11.11.2009, 00:41 +0100 schrieb Valery Febvre: > Hi, > > Neomis is a computer version of the well-known electronic game named Simon. > > It's a game of memory and concentration. > > You must follow the pattern of sounds and lights as long as you can > remember! > > The game will flash quadrants in turn and expect you to repeat the > sequence. If you get the sequence correct, the game will respond with a > longer sequence. > > It's written in Python / Elementary. > > NumberX is tested on SHR unstable ONLY. > > Homepage : http://code.google.com/p/neomis/ > > Package : http://neomis.googlecode.com/files/neomis_1.0.0-r0_all.ipk > > Best Regards, > -- > Valéry > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a convenient tool
Hi, i have written such a tool months ago, but i haven't published it yet. So i have written a small article on my wiki now. Perhaps anybody like it ;) http://wiki.yourse.de/doku.php?id=python:emenu with kind regards Patrick Am Freitag, den 06.11.2009, 22:21 +0100 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: > Hello ! > > I'm looking for a program that, given a set of shell commands, display > a gtk window with a button that runs each command. > I have looked at zenity but it apparently lacks the button widgets. > > Do you know of something similar, or should I write it myself ? > > I think something like that would be very usefull for writing usefull > finger controlable apps for the freerunner. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dfu-util
Hi, what is the problem? Then you have a device where uses this USB-technic as well in your computer. USB DFU means => Universal Serial Bus Device Firmware Upgrade. In Openmoko we use dfu-util to implant the server side on your host and the u-bootloader implants the device side - so we can flash :) With the device parameter you can specify the device you will flash: dfu-util --device 0x1457:0x5119 Execute dfu-util -l before you attach the neo and after you have connected it to your computer. So you can identify the right device. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 25.07.2009, 12:36 +0300 schrieb jumper dev: > hi, > > I have a strange problem using the dfu-util.. > when I use "dfu-util - l" and OM is NOT connected I get : > > Found Runtime: [0x413c:0x8126] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=3, alt=0, > name="UNDEFINED" > > how can it find a device connected when I have none? > > > thanks. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Hi, which software you are using for pdf viewing? with kind regards Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 16.07.2009, 15:13 -0400 schrieb Warren Baird: > - It's very useful as a PDF reader - with the high-res screen I've > been able to read documents while walking or while standing on a metro > or bus, when getting out a laptop wouldn't have worked well. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [TangoGPS] POI coordinates as WGS84 deg and min
Hi, you have to change the format in the config section - degress and minutes. Now you can enter it in the Format 55 33.218 and 008 08.493 (the space between degress and minutes and the dot are required) with kind regards Patrick Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 23:55 +0200 schrieb Marcel: > Hello, > > I'm using TGPS for geocaching. The coordinates always get listed as f.e. > N 55° 33.218 E 008° 08.493 (WGS84 degrees and minutes) > If I have to "build" the coordinates for the cache's second "stage" by > hand, I only get these coordinates as reference, but TGPS needs WGS84 > Decimal Degrees as POI coordinates. > As a feature wish: Could someone please make TGPS understand degrees and > minutes? :) > > -- > Marcel (who hasn't even understood how to convert the two formats in an > own program yet :/ ) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] How to get elementary?
Hi, i' am interested, too. Perhaps anybody has a python-elementary-package as well? with kind regards Patrick Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 12:45 +0200 schrieb Marcel: > Hello, > > Is there a elementary package for Debian yet? I've not yet gotten round > crosscompiling anything (thanks to python...) and fear adding a selfcompiled > elementary (in case I get that to work) to an E17 from the Debian repos, > running into conflicts when that actually contains elementary. > > -- > Marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changing where TangoGPS stores map files
Hallo, you can change it in the "Config" tab under repository information. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 14.03.2009, 13:19 -0400 schrieb Adam Jimerson: > I have an 8GB microSD card that I want to use to store GPS maps, I > have TangoGPS and Yaouh working on SHR-Testing but I don't know how > or if it is even possible to change this directory for both apps. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [todays testing image] can't enter sim
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Keyboard#Changing_keyboard_layout with kind regards Patrick Am Dienstag, den 09.12.2008, 19:51 +0100 schrieb t m: > Hi, > > I've just installed the daily testing image > http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/. I have no idea which > distro this is, 2008.9? Some more information (e.g. a readme.txt) > would have been nice. > Anyway.. after installing I needed to enter a SIM pincode and the only > thing I can choose from are letters! > > Would be nice if someone could tell me how I can install a usable > keyboard without unlocking my simcard on another phone. My old phone > just died on me... > > Thanks. > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A light for the Freerunner
Hello William, that sounds great :D Perhaps you find more ideas on this wiki-page about alternate cases => http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Casing with kind regards Patrick Am Sonntag, den 30.11.2008, 11:15 +0900 schrieb William Kenworthy: > Yes, they are brighter. I am actually thinking of using your idea, but > adding an extension and small camera so the light can be used in > confined areas with the FR as the screen. When I get the time ... > > BillK > > On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 14:09 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote: > > Hello, > > > > it's not comparable to this solution ;) This two leds are twice or more > > brighter than the display. > > > > with kind regards > > > > Patrick > > > > Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 12:42 +0900 schrieb William Kenworthy: > > > I use "flashlight" - turns the screen backlight up to max. Touch to > > > turn off (& return screen to previous setting). Its actually quite > > > bright and useful, and no soldering involved. > > > > > > BillK > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:56 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i > > > > added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has > > > > any improvements for me :D > > > > > > > > Here you can find a wiki article about the light > > > > http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light > > > > > > > > And here two videos > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE > > > > > > > > It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea > > > > and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of > > > > devices :) > > > > > > > > At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) > > > > > > > > Have fun! > > > > > > > > with kind regards > > > > > > > > Patrick Beck > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A light for the Freerunner
Hello Joseph, that sounds great. I look forward :D with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 17:43 +0030 schrieb Joseph Reeves: > Hi patrick, thanks for the link. You've encouraged me to create a much > improved (?) version of my usb button. It'll be on planet.openmoko.org > on monday. > Cheers, j > > On 28/11/2008, Patrick Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i > > added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has > > any improvements for me :D > > > > Here you can find a wiki article about the light > > http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light > > > > And here two videos > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE > > > > It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea > > and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of > > devices :) > > > > At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) > > > > Have fun! > > > > with kind regards > > > > Patrick Beck > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A light for the Freerunner
Hello, it's not comparable to this solution ;) This two leds are twice or more brighter than the display. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 12:42 +0900 schrieb William Kenworthy: > I use "flashlight" - turns the screen backlight up to max. Touch to > turn off (& return screen to previous setting). Its actually quite > bright and useful, and no soldering involved. > > BillK > > > On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:56 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote: > > Hello, > > > > because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i > > added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has > > any improvements for me :D > > > > Here you can find a wiki article about the light > > http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light > > > > And here two videos > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE > > > > It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea > > and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of > > devices :) > > > > At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) > > > > Have fun! > > > > with kind regards > > > > Patrick Beck > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A light for the Freerunner
Hello, because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has any improvements for me :D Here you can find a wiki article about the light http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light And here two videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of devices :) At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) Have fun! with kind regards Patrick Beck signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pingus ported
Hello Tobias, thanks for your help it works. I use the tip from Marco => Exec=xrandr -o 3; pingus -f -g 640x480 -m -s; xrandr -o 0; into the pingus.desktop-file My last question at all is => How can i leave the game, when i am on the map view? The "Leave?"-Button won't work for me. Thanks. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 18.10.2008, 20:20 +0200 schrieb Tobias Kündig: > You have to rotate the screen to landscape. > > Look here for more information: > http://www.opkg.org/package_27.html > > Regards, > Tobias signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pingus ported
Hello, i have installed the needed packages and i get this message when i try to start pingus -- Welcome to Pingus 0.7.2! data path: /usr/bin/../share/pingus/data/ language:English (en) font encoding: iso-8859-1 sound support: enabled music support: enabled resolution: 800x600 fullscreen: disabled Unable to set video mode: No video mode large enough for 800x600 -- How can i change the resolution? Thanks for the port. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 18.10.2008, 16:06 +0200 schrieb Sander van Grieken: > Hi All, > > I'm glad to report that I've managed to port Pingus, the free lemmings > clone, for OE based distributions (it was already available on > Debian). > > I have submitted the bitbake recipe and patches to Openembedded, but > there's no need to wait while these trickle down the various branches. > I have created the binaries for you. > > On both FSO and OM2008.8 you can install > > http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/libboost-signals1.33.1_1.33.1-r3_armv4t.ipk > > http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t.ipk > > Also libpng3 must be installed, but I haven't been able to get the > dependency right, so you'll need to do that manually. > > Note: for OM2008.8, you need to have the testing feeds to get recent > enough SDL packages. > > more information is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Sander > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing in (K)Ubuntu Linux 64bits
Hi, no problem ;) I should write the hexadecimal code is for me the device-id. You can print a help-message about dfu-util with ./dfu-util -h I wish you fun with your Freerunner :) with kind regard Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 14:51 +0100 schrieb BS - João Vieira: > thanks Patrick, I was also using the wrong image i had to use gta02, now im > using the right flash > > On Thursday 16 October 2008, Patrick Beck wrote: > > Hi, > > > > You are using dfu-util in the wrong way. > > > > Try => sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device 0x0b05:0x1712 -R -D > > Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > > > > with kind regard > > > > Patrick > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 05:51 -0700 schrieb jotalix: > > > I presume my device is number 2 > > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -l > > > ... > > > Found Runtime: [0x0b05:0x1712] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, > > > name="UNDEFINED" > > > > > > So using 2 as the device ID I got this error > > > > > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device "2" -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > > > ... > > > unable to parse `2' > > > > > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device 2 -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > > > ... > > > unable to parse `2' > > > > > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -d 2 -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > > > ... > > > unable to parse `2' > > > > > > thanks > > > J > > > > > > On Thursday 16 October 2008, Patrick Beck wrote: > > > > ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device listed-id -R -D > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing in (K)Ubuntu Linux 64bits
Hi, You are using dfu-util in the wrong way. Try => sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device 0x0b05:0x1712 -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 with kind regard Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 05:51 -0700 schrieb jotalix: > I presume my device is number 2 > $ sudo ./dfu-util -l > ... > Found Runtime: [0x0b05:0x1712] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, > name="UNDEFINED" > > So using 2 as the device ID I got this error > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device "2" -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > ... > unable to parse `2' > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device 2 -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > ... > unable to parse `2' > > $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -d 2 -R -D Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 > ... > unable to parse `2' > > thanks > J > > On Thursday 16 October 2008, Patrick Beck wrote: > > ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device listed-id -R -D > > > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing in (K)Ubuntu Linux 64bits
Hello jotalix, i think you have the same problem as me, when i start to flash my Freerunner. dfu-util has detected two devices (./dfu-util -l) so i have to select one with the parameter --device. For example => ./dfu-util -a rootfs --device listed-id -R -D image.rootfs with kind regards Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 04:13 -0700 schrieb jotalix: > Kubuntu, 64bits > > Hi, > > I am able to browser inside Neo Freerunner gta02, i do ssh > [EMAIL PROTECTED], and do whatever i need inside. > > But i want to flash it to a recent version, and here comes the problem, i > can only use dfu-util with my Neo on bootloader ,and while on bootloader > kubuntu dont recognize it as a USB device whatever,... so how can it be > possible to flash it? > > best regards, > jotalix signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 potentially solved
Hello Lorn, Will it be possible to get a package on a normal qtopia, to install it via opkg on the 4.3 Release? with kind regards Patrick Am Freitag, den 29.08.2008, 20:31 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Florian, > > > > Florian Hackenberger wrote: > >> I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11, but for the impatient here are some > >> instructions for installing gsm0710muxd on Om2008.08 and injecting the > > > > Will this patch make it upstream? > > It will be in 4.4 yes. I haven't yet put it in 4.3.x snapshots. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Hello Bernt, that sounds great. I'am interessed in your progress (perhaps not alone). Please inform us. with kind regards Patrick Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 13:36 -0700 schrieb Bernt: > > > Patrick Beck wrote: > > > > Hello Lorn, > > thanks for your answer. It's a pity. > > with kind regards > > Patrick Beck > > > > Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 04:30 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter: > >> Patrick Beck wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good > >> mediaplayer. > >> > I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. > >> > > >> > http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ > >> > > >> Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be > >> rewritten for Qtopia 4. > >> > > > > I fetched the source and tried to compile it for native X11 under ubuntu: > installing qt3-dev-tools-embedded and the other dev-packages for the > qt-libs I already have > and installing libiconv from > http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/libiconv/libiconv-1.12.tar.gz > qmake quasar-qt.pro > make > cd distro > ../quasar > > First impression: it compiles and runs, > so when my freerunner arives it should be possible to compile it for the > freerunner too ... > > Bernt signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Hello Lorn, thanks for your answer. It's a pity. with kind regards Patrick Beck Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 04:30 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter: > Patrick Beck wrote: > > Hello, > > > > i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer. > > I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. > > > > http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ > > > > It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet? > > Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be > rewritten for Qtopia 4. > > > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Hello, i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer. I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet? with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for microSD
Hi, here is the wiki page about the compatible microsd-cards :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards with kind regards Patrick Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 10:28 + schrieb Christian Weßel: > Hi folks, > > as I remember there was some days ago discussions about larger SD cards > for freerunner. I mind a list about tested cards in wiki, but I could > not find again. Some hinds? Thanx. > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03
Hello, perhaps that could be a cool addon for the Freerunner :) I think it is possible to build the hardware oneself. Last but not least we need a software for it. http://features.engadget.com/2004/07/27/how-to-turn-your-ipod-in-to-a-universal-infrared-remote-control/ with kind regards Patrick Am Sonntag, den 29.06.2008, 07:00 -0700 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: > > I have not (yet) invested in one of those expensive > universal remote control thingies. But I really > lust after that functionality when I fight THREE > controls (sat TV, DVD player, TV, not to mention > a separate audio system control) > > I think the cost and complexity of adding IR is > very small. It would be a hackers delight, and > provide another point of differentiation. > > > Ron K. Jeffries > http://www.retaggr.com/Card/rjeffries > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case
Yes, LTG is down, but i think it will running again in a few hours. The photos there are well worth seeing ;) The video you are found is about the special case from mickey. He have build it out from a black and white case. Greets Patrick Beck Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 19:26 + schrieb andy selby: > The site is down at the moment but I did find this at people.openomoko.org > http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/misc/MOV02905.MPG > posted today by Mickey, note the all silver banding around the neo's > circumference although it still has two speakers so I'm guessing this > is not a freerunner. > Will there be two versions, one, all black and one with all silver trim? > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case
Hi, here can you find nice photos from a complete black device. http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ <= the DSC* files. The photos has been shot by mickeyl :) Greets Patrick Beck Am Sonntag, den 13.01.2008, 15:57 -0800 schrieb Michael Shiloh: > > Zeth Green wrote: > > Warning: Totally frivolous post. > > > > The picture on the news.com site, has the word "FreeRunner" written at > > the bottom and a rather cool all black look (i.e. no transparent edge). > > Is this photo a fake or is it a real photo of the new case? > > > > http://linkpot.net/stenched/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evolution - Message Filters
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 09:56 -0500, Jonathon Suggs wrote: > I've been trying several different > combinations of message filters to get it to recognize the OM mail, but > nothing is working and it is starting to become very frustrating. Hello Jonathan, in den "Add Rule" window you can filter according to the "Recipients is" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then you can move the email in a other folder. Perhaps a better solution when the above not always works => Filter on the Specific Header for "Reply-to" => Reply-to is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope that works for you. Greets Patrick Beck signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update
Hello, ok, than i am right => v3 has bugs and they musst be fix with v4. I dont think that this problem would be solved in one month. v4 has the same process like v3 => solve the bug problems => testing and validation. According to the wiki => they hoped that v3 is bug-free Greets Patrick Beck Am Samstag, den 13.10.2007, 19:46 +0200 schrieb Jay Vaughan: > > > > this means that gta02v3 has bugs? > > > > .. it means that the hardware is going through rigorous testing > before it gets reproduced in large numbers. Certainly, hardware can > have bugs .. the difference is that its very hard to fix these bugs > 'at the user' once the hardware is shipped. > > I'm quite happy to hear that there are revisions of the GTA02 design > already going through the validation and testing process. I've > worked recently for a hardware manufacturer who believed they didn't > need to make such stages (too expensive, too much hassle) and believe > me: it was a nightmare. I'll be quite happy to wait an extra month > for my GTA02 (for sure getting one) if its been through this much > quality control and design review .. > > j. > > > > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update
Hello, this means that gta02v3 has bugs? Greets Patrick Beck Am Freitag, den 12.10.2007, 22:05 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh: > GTA02v3, the third revision of GTA02, is still being verified and > tested. This will take another couple of weeks, at which point we'll > make GTA02v4. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possible Input method -- press and drag
Hello, you mean that solution? => http://www.exideas.com/ME/DeviceSimulators/iPhone.html Greets Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 02.10.2007, 15:31 -0500 schrieb Derek Pressnall: > > That looks similar to what I had in mind (and may end up being the > same in actual use), but I wasn't thinking of having an additional > popup graphic when you hit a key. Instead, hitting and slightly > dragging to one side or another should probably cause the key icon to > perform an animated wiggle in that direction, which would probably be > less distracting than the popup splash graphic. Also it wouldn't > require you to move your finger as far, it can start in the middle of > the key and move just a bit in the required direction instead of off > the button and to another popup button. Also wouldn't require a bunch > of additonal reserved space around the outside buttons (bottom and > side rows) for the popup splash graphic. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stylus alternative
Am Montag, den 10.09.2007, 09:52 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > The pick-stylus is attached via a (included) short loop and available > as spare part for about $3 (in the states). > And here's the link: > http://www.cowonglobal.com/product/product_D2_feature.php > Imho this would be perfect for the neo, because we have a mounting > hole for the loop in the device :) I think this is a very good idea. It is small and can attached to the Neo. Here can you find a bigger picture of the stylus => http://www.cowonglobal.com/product/images/cowond2/d2_10.jpg with kindly regards Patrick Beck signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: What a heavy lunch-box!
Am Samstag, den 04.08.2007, 13:14 -0700 schrieb Richard Reichenbacher: > Only problem I have with the stylus is that it uses gel ink. I'm gonna try > and find a liquid ink cartridge for it. > They write smoother. Also I have noticed that with the stylus in the pouch > if you lift the pouch over it a little the stylus fits just fine. That sounds good. By the way i like the design of the pouch :) with kindly regards Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What a heavy lunch-box!
Am Samstag, den 04.08.2007, 21:34 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > I love the stylus and definitely don't want to replace it :) > As the pouch is too thick for me and every-day use, it is no problem > for me - and I always have a pen in my pocket, so replacing this with > the stylus is no problem at all. The stylus is very cool for every-day > use, you can use it as stylus, write with it, use it as pointing > device in presentations and as light in the work. > It's cool that the pouch is made of neoprene, so it can protect the > neo from heat, coldness, and water. > > The applications look really nice and I'm looing forward to get them > running (first I have to get org.openembedded.dev running ^^). > I hope that the fast-as-light browsers dillo and links -g will run. How you protect the neo at every day use? I think the stylus cool, too ;) A light, a pen, etc, all what i want in one pen ;) I only think that it would be a good idea for people they have no pen in the trouser pocket :) I only look now for a good alternative to carry the neo with me, without a backpack ;) with kindly regards Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What a heavy lunch-box!
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 23:12 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > The player is emphasis, based on Etk (EFL) and it's a mpd client. > But it's running via X remote on the neo, not native. But shouldn't be > a problem native, too. > The same for all other apps, I only tested how they would look, they > are NOT running on the device. > Just for info :) > And of course you can have some photos of the pouch, too - > just look at my webspace in 5-10 minutes. > I'll rename all the pics, so you see what you might take a look on :) > (Attention, no modem users please, about 3 MB per photo!) Thanks for your effort. The pictures are very nice ;) Perhaps we should look for a smaller stylus for the pouch :) The apps looks nice on the neo. I look forward to see they running on the device :D I would buy GTA02 in october. I hope the hardware will released earlier. with kindly regards Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What a heavy lunch-box!
Am Samstag, den 04.08.2007, 08:47 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof Kajkowski: > 2007/8/3, Patrick Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Perhaps you can take a high-res photo of the neo pouch, because anybody > > says that we can keep the stylus there? > > Check out last pictures on http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/38 > > IMHO you can put stylus in there but I have some troubles while > closing pouch - stylus is somewhat to big to make this confortable > closing. You can close is but it does not fit very much (I keep my > stylus there because I have no other place to keep it). > > cheers > > cayco Thanks for the pictures. The pouch is with the elastic band very nice. Perhaps we can find a good small alternative to the big stylus in the package. So we have no troubles to close the pouch ;) with kindly regards Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What a heavy lunch-box!
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > If you want some high res pics (but not that good quality) you can > take a look here: http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/ > Feel free to do with the photos what you want :) Very cool pictures :D Can you say me which musicplayer is on this picture => http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/dsc02285.jpg ? Perhaps you can take a high-res photo of the neo pouch, because anybody says that we can keep the stylus there? Thanks with kindly regards Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973
Hello, that is right, but only the Kernel and other GPLed Software is free to use. The TomTom Software is closed. TomTom musst optimize the software for the use on openmoko and the Neo1973. I hope they support the Openmoko platform in the future :) With kind regards Patrick Beck Am Freitag, den 08.06.2007, 17:54 +0200 schrieb Kero van Gelder: > > > Now the answer from TomTom: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Beck, > > > > > > Currently TomTom has no plans to extend our navigation software to other > > > platforms. However the Openmoko is an interesting development and we > > > will keep an eye on it to see how this project evolves into the future. > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > The TomTom PRO support team > > A friend of mine mentioned the TomTom GO is a linux device. > FWIW: >http://www.tomtom.com/page.php?Page=gpl > > Bye, > Kero. > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973
Openstreetmap is till now not a alternative to other proprietary map companys. A map with only a small fraction of my country is not good to navigate;) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 16:57 -0400 schrieb Ian Darwin: > > And besides, wouldn't you rather have an open source program drawing > your maps? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973
Hi, you are right. I hope they change that information in the future :) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. > "will keep an eye on it" could mean, that TomTom will wait and see how > the first OpenMoko Phones (Neo1973 Phase 2) sell. > If the sales are ok, maybe they release their software for OpenMoko. > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tomtom on the Neo1973
Hello, i have now a answer from the TomTom support. It takes a longer time because the normal german TomTom Support could not answer my question and so i musst ask TomTom Pro. In addition i had not many time in the last months - Sorry. Now the answer from TomTom: Dear Mr. Beck, Currently TomTom has no plans to extend our navigation software to other platforms. However the Openmoko is an interesting development and we will keep an eye on it to see how this project evolves into the future. With kind regards, The TomTom PRO support team That is a bad Answer, but i hope TomTom change this information in the future. Greats Patrick Beck Am Samstag, den 31.03.2007, 14:37 +0200 schrieb Patrick Beck: > Hello, > > i follow the deployment of the Neo1973 and Openmoko since they become > public. > > I have discussed with a few others on the IRC, about the Idea to use > tomtom on the Neo1973. I think it will be very cool :) I had no problem > to pay money for a good software and rich in detail maps. It is hard > work to create good maps (see http://www.openstreetmap.org). > > When many people want to use tomtom on the Neo1973, it would be a good > precondition to assure tomtom from this idea to sell tomtom for the > Openmoko platform. tomtom devices already run under linux, so i think it > will not so hard to port it on Openmoko. > > My question is now => How we should ask tomtom? I think it will good > when a company or the intern developer of openmoko can ask. Beside the > company, all interested can ask tomtom. So they can see that we would > run tomtom on openmoko :) > > I hope that i'am not the only one who would run tomtom on the > Neo1973 ;) > > Greats Patrick Beck > > > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tomtom on the Neo1973
Am Samstag, den 31.03.2007, 16:01 +0200 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: >Therefore I would like to support openstreetmap.org For a navigation software is OSM not enough. Not many maps, will be the problem. > I think tomtom should be optional in addition to openstreetmap. > Openstreetmap should not be replaced, and it should be easy to update > openstreetmap. We could make some nice UI for that. But people have > different needs; and for those that need detailed maps and can afford > it, maybe tomtom is better. Of course should tomtom a optional software. But the first target is that tomtom sell it for the openmoko plattform. I like the OSM-Project. I wish me a cool gui, and a good way to create maps, log tracks and view maps one the Neo1973. And of course complete maps ;) But for car navi and so one, OSM will at the moment the wrong project. I will contact tomtom later per email and ask my question ;) Greets Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tomtom on the Neo1973
Hello, i follow the deployment of the Neo1973 and Openmoko since they become public. I have discussed with a few others on the IRC, about the Idea to use tomtom on the Neo1973. I think it will be very cool :) I had no problem to pay money for a good software and rich in detail maps. It is hard work to create good maps (see http://www.openstreetmap.org). When many people want to use tomtom on the Neo1973, it would be a good precondition to assure tomtom from this idea to sell tomtom for the Openmoko platform. tomtom devices already run under linux, so i think it will not so hard to port it on Openmoko. My question is now => How we should ask tomtom? I think it will good when a company or the intern developer of openmoko can ask. Beside the company, all interested can ask tomtom. So they can see that we would run tomtom on openmoko :) I hope that i'am not the only one who would run tomtom on the Neo1973 ;) Greats Patrick Beck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
