selling my freerunner
i'm selling my freerunner. like new condition. preferably to someone in the denver, colorado area. please respond via pm. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Will Siddall wrote: > If you would rather switch to the illume theme (you would have to > update from testing), this will give you access to the illume 'wrench' > that can allow you to set the time after which the screen blanks and > then another time (or none) to have it go into suspend. i'm not sure how to change the opkg config to point to testing. > If you don't want to use testing, you can just install 'illume-config' > which will give you the wrench whenever i try to install illume-config, opkg tells me that illume-theme-asu is installed and up to date: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install illume-config Package illume-theme-asu (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) installed in root is up to date. it also looks like the illume theme is already installed, opkg list_installed says: illume-theme-illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r1.01 - any help on either getting the wrench or activating the illume theme? thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12
i can't use suspend due to wsod but 2008.12 doesn't seem to blank the screen by default. is there any way for me to turn this on? ideally, i'd like to have suspend turned off and have the screen blank after about a minute or so. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> >> | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 >> | >> | /proc/version is: >> | >> | Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Fri >> | Oct 17 17:20:36 UTC 2008 >> >> Yow it's from Oct 17... it has Harald's patches but not Nicolas' >> fixes... ancient kernel alert. Kernel from that vintage is expected to >> WSOD all over the place. > > can i change one of the opkg conf files to get a newer kernel to test with? i edited the om-gta02-feed.conf file to point to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ and the did an update/upgrade. this got me a new kernel, to wit: Upgrading kernel on root from 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 to 3:2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01... and also a number of kernel modules and other stuff. i then rebooted the unit and ran my tests again. with this kernel, i no longer get the wsod on screen blank but i still get it when i suspend/resume. also, letting the unit blank/unblank after a wsod no longer clears up the wsod. something is not entirely kosher though as my usb networking went away. there may be other brokenness as well. -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: > |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > |> Hash: SHA1 > |> > |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> > |> | kernel - > 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 > |> | > |> | /proc/version is: > |> | > |> | Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Fri > |> | Oct 17 17:20:36 UTC 2008 > |> > |> Yow it's from Oct 17... it has Harald's patches but not Nicolas' > |> fixes... ancient kernel alert. Kernel from that vintage is expected to > |> WSOD all over the place. > | > | can i change one of the opkg conf files to get a newer kernel to test > with? > | > | after more testing i found that i can only get the wsod to clear up if > | i bring the unit back from blanking quickly on the second blank. if i > | wait longer than a couple minutes or so, i get the wsod again. is any > | of this information useful or should i try everything again with a > | newer kernel? > > I think it's just suffering for you at this point. > > I updated the http://people.openmoko.org/andy with current > andy-tracking, you can give that a try. should i just flash the andy-tracking kernel and try it with my existing fso rootfs and see what happens? i'm not sure how to "try andy-tracking". thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 > | > | /proc/version is: > | > | Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Fri > | Oct 17 17:20:36 UTC 2008 > > Yow it's from Oct 17... it has Harald's patches but not Nicolas' > fixes... ancient kernel alert. Kernel from that vintage is expected to > WSOD all over the place. can i change one of the opkg conf files to get a newer kernel to test with? after more testing i found that i can only get the wsod to clear up if i bring the unit back from blanking quickly on the second blank. if i wait longer than a couple minutes or so, i get the wsod again. is any of this information useful or should i try everything again with a newer kernel? -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Green wrote: >> Second, WSOD from resume is a bit ambiguous since it can be a more >> generic resume failure on 2.6.24. If you disable resume and just let it >> do framebuffer blanking for a while, do you ever see the WSOD just from >> that? > > i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some > research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used > other distros where frameblanking was the norm and never had wsod. i > only get wsod after a resume. ok. i installed the latest fso from [1] and then did an opkg update/upgrade from these repos [2]. the kernel i end up with is: kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 /proc/version is: Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Fri Oct 17 17:20:36 UTC 2008 what i've noticed is that i do, indeed, get a wsod on screen blanking when the unit is cold; however, if i let it blank again, the wsod goes away when i touch the screen again. i also get a wsod when i suspend the unit using a quick press of the power button, let the unit cool off on a window ledge and then resume with another quick press on the power button. the interesting thing is that, so far, i've been able to get rid of the wsod by letting the unit blank again and then touching the screen again. so it looks like something that this version of fso is doing upon unblanking the screen gets rid of the wsod. i will continue testing for the next couple days. if there is any other information that would be helpful, please let me know. -peter 1: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/ 2: all-feed.conf:src/gz remote-all http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//all armv4-feed.conf:src/gz remote-armv4 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//armv4 armv4t-feed.conf:src/gz remote-armv4t http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//armv4t fic-gta02-feed.conf:src/gz remote-fic-gta02 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//fic-gta02 neo1973-feed.conf:src/gz remote-neo1973 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//neo1973 om-gta02-feed.conf:src/gz remote-om-gta02 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds//om-gta02 -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Andy Green wrote > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some > | research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used > | other distros where frameblanking was the norm and never had wsod. i > | only get wsod after a resume. > > I guess it is another Glamo / suspend related misery. > > On andy-tracking I changed the Glamo resume to hard reset the Glamo and > reload it every time. This works around a variety of WSOD caused by > accidental actuation of Glamo's reset signal during suspend via a dodgy > resistor divider. > > Later today I'll update the testing binaries in > http://people.openmoko.org/andy and I think that will impact this > problem for you. thanks a lot andy. please let me know when this happens so i can update. can you also please point me to somewhere that tells me about how to use andy-tracking instead of stock and what things might be broken due to the /sys filesystem changes. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
thanks for the help, andy. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Green wrote: > Well, first confirm with cat /proc/version that you're running what you > think you're running. r...@om-gta02:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 (bu...@barbie) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Tue Dec 16 09:01:00 CST 2008 'opkg list_installed | grep kernel' gives a lot of packages. most have the version: 3:2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01 however, there is one that is different, and that would be: kernel-module-usbhid - 3:2.6.24+gitr75986+f5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r2 i have 3 packages that look like actual kernel packages. i think a couple of them might be meta packages but they are: kernel - 3:2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01 kernel-2.6.24 - 3:2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01 kernel-image-2.6.24 - 3:2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01 they all look the same to me as far as version is concerned. i hope that helps. > Second, WSOD from resume is a bit ambiguous since it can be a more > generic resume failure on 2.6.24. If you disable resume and just let it > do framebuffer blanking for a while, do you ever see the WSOD just from > that? i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used other distros where frameblanking was the norm and never had wsod. i only get wsod after a resume. -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
additional note. the wsod is definitely temperature related. when in my cold basement, i get the wsod every time on suspend/resume. i'd like to know what my options are from here on out. i'd be happy to ship my freerunner to someone who can help debug this or perform any testing that i can to help. -peter On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Peter Abplanalp > wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green wrote: >>> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >>> >>> | >>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 >>> | >>> | >>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin >>> | >>> | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod >>> | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point >>> | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? >>> >>> I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I >>> can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. >>> >>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk >> >> after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install >> this kernel you mention? > > ok, so i flashed the images above and then did a wget for the kernel > opk and then did a opkg install > kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk. > > again after 5-10 suspend/resume cycles, i got the wsod again. does > this mean i did something wrong or that you are mistaken or that i was > unlucky enough to get bad hardware? > > if the first, please tell me what i did wrong. if the second, could > you point me to a kernel that has the fix? if the third, can i get a > warranty replacement? if so, how do i go about doing that? i bought > my phone from the web shop. > > thanks, > > -peter > -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green wrote: >> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> >> | >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 >> | >> | >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin >> | >> | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod >> | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point >> | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? >> >> I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I >> can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. >> >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk > > after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install > this kernel you mention? ok, so i flashed the images above and then did a wget for the kernel opk and then did a opkg install kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk. again after 5-10 suspend/resume cycles, i got the wsod again. does this mean i did something wrong or that you are mistaken or that i was unlucky enough to get bad hardware? if the first, please tell me what i did wrong. if the second, could you point me to a kernel that has the fix? if the third, can i get a warranty replacement? if so, how do i go about doing that? i bought my phone from the web shop. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | > http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 > | > | > http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin > | > | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod > | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point > | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? > > I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I > can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install this kernel you mention? thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
after my last email, i went looking around the wiki and found this section: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#The_bleeding_edge:_Om_.22base_.2F_empty.22_images which talks about "testing" images and so i downloaded and flashed the following: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? thanks, -peter On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > let me preface this with thanking andy, all the devs and om for all > the hard work. i'm really excited about om and their "free your > phone" ideas. i am happy to support this effort by buying a phone > that isn't 100%. that said, there are some things that irritate me... > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Green wrote: >> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> >> | i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it >> | is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in >> | stable "soon." reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in >> >> Nicolas' patches went in to our stable kernel 12 days ago, but when the >> various distros update to that, or if they want to use some different >> kernel tree is up to them. > > do any of them document this? i can't for the life of me figure out > which kernel each distro is using. why can't i just install what i > want and then opkg upgrade to the latest? how dependent are the > distros on the kernel? can i install a kernel from "here" and a > rootfs (distro) from "there"? if so, where are the "blessed" kernels? > >> | so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. >> | which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy >> | tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most >> | of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. >> | >> | this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a >> | regular basis. >> >> The kernel packages in testing repository have the workaround: >> >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ > > ok, thanks for the link but that is a list of packages. how do i get > a phone with that on it? if i install om2008.9, does that get me > there? do i need to opkg update/upgrade? do i need to modify my opk > config first? if so, how? > > as i said above, i'm content to own a "brick" due to the fact that i > want to support this effort but i'd still rather have a working phone; > however, i just can't seem to get there. things are just too > splintered. i can't figure out what bits to put together in order to > get a working phone with my particular annoyance fixed. > > thanks, > > -peter > -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
let me preface this with thanking andy, all the devs and om for all the hard work. i'm really excited about om and their "free your phone" ideas. i am happy to support this effort by buying a phone that isn't 100%. that said, there are some things that irritate me... On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it > | is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in > | stable "soon." reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in > > Nicolas' patches went in to our stable kernel 12 days ago, but when the > various distros update to that, or if they want to use some different > kernel tree is up to them. do any of them document this? i can't for the life of me figure out which kernel each distro is using. why can't i just install what i want and then opkg upgrade to the latest? how dependent are the distros on the kernel? can i install a kernel from "here" and a rootfs (distro) from "there"? if so, where are the "blessed" kernels? > | so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. > | which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy > | tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most > | of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. > | > | this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a > | regular basis. > > The kernel packages in testing repository have the workaround: > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ ok, thanks for the link but that is a list of packages. how do i get a phone with that on it? if i install om2008.9, does that get me there? do i need to opkg update/upgrade? do i need to modify my opk config first? if so, how? as i said above, i'm content to own a "brick" due to the fact that i want to support this effort but i'd still rather have a working phone; however, i just can't seem to get there. things are just too splintered. i can't figure out what bits to put together in order to get a working phone with my particular annoyance fixed. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | For the WSOD, I recommand you to use the SHR distribution. > | > | I had the same problem for a few month, killing any usuability of the > | phone, but since SHR have resolved it, it's far more enjoyable to use > | the phone. > > Nicolas Dufresne resolved it with a couple of patches that are in our > current stable and andy-tracking kernels now. So the solution is > independent of the distro used. i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in stable "soon." reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in stable. so i excitedly installed the shr distro since someone else in the thread mentioned it as a good wsod avoidance choice. i installed a rootfs dated 12/16 and a uimage dated 12/14. well, much to my dismay, i just got a wsod again. so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a regular basis. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wsod, can i help?
the wsod is starting to drive me nuts. it makes the phone unusable if you want to use suspend and if you don't use suspend, battery life is pretty bad. this is nothing new. i've read the two bugs in trac on it and it looks like there is some progress on why it happens but not much on how to fix it. since i can get this to happen after pretty much every suspend, i was wondering if there is anything i can do to help. contact me with any steps i should try, useful information on my setup, etc. thanks, -peter -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SD Card
hi, i am seeing a lot of things on the list about sd cards and that they interfere with the gps and that call clarity is worse when using an sd card. i know that the gps issue has been addressed with a patch. will this patch also address the call clarity issue? also, do i get the patch if i install a daily build or do i need to build it all myself via the moko makfile? on a related note, what is the best way to format an sd card for use in the freerunner? thanks, -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (no subject)
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/4/23, Casey G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Yes. > > I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko roadmap
hi all, with the release of the freerunner coming up, i'm wondering about the roadmap and future for openmoko and additional phones. i'm an advanced linux user but have no experience with openmoko or the cell phone platform and thus i'm wondering if the the freerunner is the phone for me or not seeing as how what i've read on this list is that the freerunner is still an "advanced user" phone. does anyone at openmoko know when we might expect the next phone after the freerunner? if it is going to be more than a year or so, i think i want to get a freerunner but if the next phone would be a year or less away, i may wait. any thoughts? -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
