Order number wiki page
I've started a wiki page recording order numbers vs confirmation emails: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3F Mine is 1345, so hopefully ship today. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Yorick Matthys wrote: >> Are there other persons interested in buying one? > I do :P > >> We could ask them to make one for the Freerunner. > > Did you see this: http://tinyurl.com/6rmj5j :) > Also: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=openmoko&category0= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Error while paying
Federico Lorenzi wrote: > Hi, I get a gateway error from hitrust when attempting to pay, anyone > know what the problem is? > Me too, but I called up Chase, and they took off the block on international purchases. So that is the 10 pack for San Diego group buy - still need 2-3 more people for it, I don't want to end up with 4 phones ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
San Diego Freerunner buying group
c.f.: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#San_Diego The area is San Diego county or anywhere that is conveniently nearby for any group members. I still need 2 more people to make 10 - or possibly 3, I'm still to hear from Mr Hughes. If you add yourself to the list, I'll make sure I send you all the coordination details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo unusable for playing ogg
Nicolas Linkert wrote: Hi, today I copied a number of ogg files onto the Neo and started playing them with the Media Player. The result was very disappointing, since there was a constant skipping noticeable. Is this a known issue? I haven't tried any mp3s, but I'll do that this evening. You'll definitely need to ensure you use the integer libraries/version with any player. e.g. ogg123. Same with MP3, e.g, Madplay. Both perform very well on ARM. I don't know what the OpenMoko default "Media player" is, but it sounds like it needs some work along these lines. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/11/2007, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), > > > > some of us have been talking off list about a module from Compulab > that may be suitable. it is an ARM device, has a ready to go Angstrom > linux image, 640 x 480 screen, gprs, wi-fi, bluetooth and gps. all it > needs is a case. see: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Compulab_EM-X270 Yeah, I've been following what's been mentioned about that. Pretty interesting, but pricey, even if a volume purchase can be worked out (~$750). Odd that it's only 11b. I could justify cobbling together a case of my own making, but I think the price of the device is simply too much to justify it. I don't know much about the availability of GPRS devices et al, but would it be possible to retrofit one to an existing device? Alternatively, CDMA modems are avilable in PCMCIA devices - how about a MiniPCI version on a device. This is all guess work. -- Peter Naulls - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.chocky.org/ Linux hints wiki - http://www.linuxhints.info/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
Ortwin Regel wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) The screen is small but usable. The biggest problem I see is text input but there are some interesting projects and ideas flying around to solve that. How about in terms of viewing movies or graphics - is that sensible; the pixels are surely minuscule? and the ruggedness of the device I can't say too much about that but it seems pretty solid to me. I read about other people's buttons breaking and that sounds like a realistic issue if you use them a lot. You should get some sort of protector foil for the screen as the danger of damaging it is always big, especially with touchscreens. My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), [snip broken up requirements] Yes, I'm quite aware that the GTA02 meets these requirements, as does the UTC universal. I wouldn't have posted here after all and named those two phones otherwise. The question is, do any _other_ phones also fall into this category? Of course, I do want to run OpenMoko, and will do the necessary work if really required to make it do so if it already runs linux. And a general note: Your tone is very agressive and demanding. This does nothing but annoy people. I'd recommend you try to be more friendly and tolerant of seemingly unnecessary comments and people will probably be more friendly to you. With respect, you seem to be a bit confused and your reasoning is backwards. The initial responses I got were clearly trolls (by definition _they_ unfriendly and annoying people). I made an effort to be clear about what I was asking and haven't demanded anything, and the first responders had made no effort to really read what I said. Save your criticism for them. Unfortunately, it just looks like to outsiders that people are getting overly defensive it if looks like I might be trying to criticize OpenMoko/Neo. Let's try and restrict our opinions to what I'm really asked. Thanks for your feedback. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
Mike Hodson wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:55 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic) a troll. Yet by your condescending attitude you appear to be more troll-like than him. Well deserved; I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation. Was there any value to your content-free posts? No. Then you'd also do well to say nothing instead of throwing around more accusations. I seem to have confused this list with one where open and intelligent discussion takes place regarding the merits or otherwise of OpenMoko and its hardware targets. Clearly you aren't interested in discussing those. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
andy selby wrote: Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so please check carefully). Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone recommends anything but the neo1973 And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic) a troll. As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long) time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff. Yes I can definatly recommend you buy a neo1973 That doesn't follow at all. What is your justification here of the Neo over the HTC Universal in this respect? Also, if you're following up, please don't unnecessarily quote signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to. O.K. I wont Thanks, but also not snipping attribution lines would be appreciated. If anyone has anything _constructive_ to reply with and isn't just replying for the sake of making noise, I'd like to hear it. If not, then please don't annoy others with pointless posts. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
Giles Jones wrote: On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote: For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. HTC Universal? Yes, you snipped that part. If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it. I have little interest in Windows Mobile, which is another part you snipped. I want Linux, probably OpenMoko. It's a rather large phone, not exactly a fast device (it's a few years out of date now) and the final Neo device will be faster in numerous ways. Well, that's the one helpful thing you posted. But what are we talking? Either a subjective comparison or detailed technical comparison of processor, graphics and bus, memory speeds would be fine. Perhaps a Nokia N800 or N810 is what you need at this time? Or not, not having phone capabilities, which is another requirement you snipped (Skype notwithstanding). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko phone comparisons
I, like many others have been following the Neo development with interest, but I still have some reservations. No, it's not about the quad band issue that so many here in the US feel compelled to complain about - I'm in Southern California and would be using T-Mobile. I am however in the aproximately 1% (allow me some exageration here) of the population of the Western world lacking a mobile phone. For me to get one requires considerable justification. For one, the extortionate situation in the US is a considerable barrier, although I'd almost certainly use T-Mobile pay-as-you-go which would cost me about $100/year (I make very few calls). On the other hand, the Neo does provide some considerable justification, but I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) and the ruggedness of the device and of course the device. The other phone I'm considering in preference which also runs OpenMoko is the UTC universal (plenty of options under 'Jasjar' on ebay). My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), runs Linux, wireless access and can make occasional phone calls. The UTC has the benefit of a physical keyboard, although the phone is relatively large - also means a larger screen. Also, its wireless is limited to 11Mbit (that's not such an issue though). One downside is although the device has near comprehensive Linux driver support, it isn't open hardware, and there could be issues (not that the Neo doesn't at present but those are being worked on). For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so please check carefully). As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long) time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff. Also, if you're following up, please don't uneccesarily quote signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to. Thanks in advance. -- Peter Naulls - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.chocky.org/ RISC OS Community Wiki - add your own content | http://www.riscos.info/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
