Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Hi, I'm uploading a binary for SHR-Unstable that will print out key press scan codes if run from a terminal. Just replace the intone binary in c_c, where about have you been uploading i? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: touchpad on OM
I've implemented this as part of literki. The touchpad area is of course transparent, and the pointer is just a little x-shaped window. The pointer is a bit shaky, because of noise coming from the finger input. It's also a bit slow on some windows, vala-terminal in particular. I'm not sure if it's possible at all to use a real mouse pointer for this. Michal, it seems to only make left click and not right for me... anything i can debug? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: touchpad on OM
MB Thanks, actually it was doing middle click instead of right. If you MB reinstall from the same url, it should work. What application can MB you test right click in on OM? I've only tested on my desktop. testing on claws-mail (gtk). tried the new version - works like a charm :), actually, you can see a pop-up menu even upon right click on icons in illume great work, thank you! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any distro with working calls?
http://www.koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ stable, polished, also the battery issue seems to have been solved. Isn't that the one that cannot receive calls...? we've just tested here, yes, cannot receive any call... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm restart
tomorrow) with status reports (also on the wiki). Last but not least, you could subscribe to smartphones-standards and smartphones-userland -- this is where all the FSO action happens. thank you Mickey. i wasn't aware of the smartphones list. i might check them out. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
could someone help me with setting this up? i've got a new conf file, with the necessary items in, so now pimlico dates appears in the calendar list my conf file contains this: [googleCalendar] description=My Google Calendar module=calendar_google user=robin.paul...@gmail.com password=my password calendarid=robin.paul...@gmail.com [pimlicodates] description= Pimlico Dates module=calendar_ics path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics when i select the corresponding items in the pisi gui, and hit start, it reports 'Configuring (0%)', but does nothing i'm guessing i've stuffed up the config for gcalendar, but can't see where on shr-u, make sure you have pisi and dates installed. you have to run dates at least once for the storage file to exist. relevant section of my ./pisi/conf: [googleCalendar] description=My Google Calendar module=calendar_google user=petr...@gmail.com password=** calendarid=petr...@gmail.com [pimlicodates] description= Pimlico Dates module=calendar_ics path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics This is it. Btw the calendar sync in pisi doesn't have conflict mode settings so if you reinstall your distro (like i did now) and your appointments are in google only, they will get erased...fortunately there is a backup in the .pisi dir :) good luck Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ANN: freesmartphone.org MS 5.5
The Freesmartphone.org team is proud to release milestone 5.5 codenamed 'In Transit...'. this is a great achievement! thanks to the whole team! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
bluetooth headset detection
it seems that while bluez reports status of bluetooth device correctly, see bellow, fso doesn't see this. what in fso is responsible for knowing the same thing when asked by oevents rule? or can the rule check with bluez directly? thank you Petr mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties { 'Connected': True, 'MicrophoneGain': 65535, 'Playing': False, 'SpeakerGain': 13, 'State': 'connected'} mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties { 'Connected': True, 'MicrophoneGain': 65535, 'Playing': True, 'SpeakerGain': 13, 'State': 'playing'} mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties { 'Connected': False, 'Playing': False, 'State': 'disconnected'} ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm restart
as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart it on the fly? power off; power on? Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer? i found out about fso-abyss only recently. I am just switched to it now. thank you. what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this new things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn about things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited. irc is not really an option everybody can afford timewise... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth headset detection
it seems that while bluez reports status of bluetooth device correctly, see bellow, fso doesn't see this. what in fso is responsible for knowing the same thing when asked by oevents rule? or can the rule check with bluez directly? i tried going through fso framework as suggested on irc but it just goes over the top of my head... sorry Paul. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm restart
what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this new things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn about things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited. irc is not really an option everybody can afford timewise... Petr fso-abyss is default in SHR - next image will use it out of box. About bluetooth - BT support was added ages ago and it was described on wiki maybe you haven't noticed, but i am trying to be constructive, asking question what could we do to change this. it perhaps has been described on wiki but the reality is that majority of fr owners didn't know it was functional already so it wasn't used. if this, as developer, satisfies you, well, so be it. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new cofundus project - Manual/Guide for SHR
This is a project to create a user manual for the SHR distribution that runs on the Freerunner communication device (and hopefully other devices soon) The idea is to have a comprehensive manual for the SHR distribution for newcomers/ users / tinkerers. It is expected to cover installation guide, navigating the user interface, navigating and using the preloaded applications, setting up networking, using wi-fi, bluetooth, usb, gps, GPRS, voice state, accelerometers etc, set up tricks and dbus commands, installing new applications and repositories, recommended repositories and applications at the minimum. Please see and support http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=172 I would also request your feedback to improve this project. i am eagerly waiting to do this /no need for cofund/ but shr will change a lot in the near future i suspect - shr installer instead of illume config walk-through, opimd backends which means that storage will change and also handling network devices is moving quite fast towards connman (mokonnect) which will be different... if possible, i would hold this on for the time being, otherwise the manual will be soon very, very outdated... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new cofundus project - Manual/Guide for SHR
i am eagerly waiting to do this /no need for cofund/ but shr will change a lot in the near future i suspect - shr installer instead of illume config walk-through, opimd backends which means that storage will change and also handling network devices is moving quite fast towards connman (mokonnect) which will be different... if possible, i would hold this on for the time being, otherwise the manual will be soon very, very outdated... Petr Hi Petr, I am aware of the changes happening in SHR. One of the reasons for starting the manual now is that getting a structure in place and having all existing information in one place is very tough, making changes to smaller sections is easier. The way I look at it is we have the manual in a new manuals section on the wiki and regularly take snapshots in PDF and open doc formats that are up to date with the current release. Also this way we will have a manual ready when SHR stable is released and not start writing a manual then. Rakshat OK, lets follow up in the shr-user list. Whoever is interested in this please join in. http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-users Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
tried all: - installed shr on a big sd card - installed navit first form opkg repos - tried navit - no result - modified navit.xml with internal gui - no result - export NAVIT_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/ - no result - installed latest navit - no result get the very same error (???) what is your error? run navit from terminal Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsm restart
as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart it on the fly? power off; power on? echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on ? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:44:31 +0200 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de (AA) wrote: setting up bt-headset-enabled: 0 where? /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml please read up this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] reliable alarm application
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:38:37 +0200 Previdi Roberto previdi.robe...@gmail.com (PR) wrote: Hello list. Is there a reliable alarm which has been tested on the OM2009 distribution? For reliable i mean that it should sound even if - the phone is suspended (99,9% of the time it is) - the phone has waken up for some reasons and then resuspended (sms, missed calls) - the application stay open for many days -- roby have you tried ffalarms? http://www.opkg.org/package_119.html Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] reliable alarm application
*version 0.2.3:* r...@om-gta02:~# ffalarms ffalarms: error while loading shared libraries: libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ffalarms are compiled for shr i would guess... look through the archives, what i do is i just create symlinks for the correct e-lib names in /usr/lib Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:45:53 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com (DS) wrote: Hi, I installed navit via opkg install navit (the version i got is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r2 ) then i copied /usr/share/navit/navit.xml in /home/root/.navit/navit.xml I tried to run navit but with no luck. Yhen i added in the right place this lines mapset enabled=yes map type=binfile enabled=yes data=/media/mmcblk0/Maps/italy.navit.bin/ /mapset but i still get r...@om-gta02 ~ $ navit Enabling low-mem workaround... navit:vehicle_new:invalid type 'gpsd' navit:speech_new:wrong type 'cmdline' navit:map_new:invalid type 'binfile' navit:navit_init:no gui navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' navit:main:No instance has been created, exiting wtf!?? is there anyone who has an idea why? thanks d navit might require libgps16, simply make link from libgps17 /make sure it's installed) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sms-sentry patch : call me back
You register a known sim with SMS-sentry and if it gets changed the phone sends it's location to a predefined number. Ha ! Neat solution to the problem. Hope you add that soon. great! it would make sense to have more SMS on the list so when testing and swapping SIMs we don't send out too many SMS. Also, if at that moment of SIM swap there is no GSM signal, the SMS sending will fail, or not? i think i should get another freerunner already for my wife, her dumb phone starts to be way too dumb already... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:00:33 -0400 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org (DF) wrote: hmm, perhaps the phone should ping the BT earpiece and see if it's available before assuming it is :D Adam Jimerson wrote: Yes thanks to the updated wiki page I also got my bt headset working, but does the phone see when the bt headset is turned off? After turning off my bt headset and making a test call with the phone I get no sound, I'm sure what is going on is the phone is still trying to route sound to the bt headset. Reading further on in the wiki I see there is a dbus command to connect the headset manually is there some reverse command to disconnect it? so bluetooth support is working, thank you! now, how is the bluetooth support supposed to work? seems like at this point my phone is configured for bluetooth (one particular device) and nothing else (cannot make phones via handset). the bluetooth section in default.yaml seems to be common for all profiles (profilable: no). are there more sections to configure? Thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] call for configurations
Just use alsactl and alsamixer for tuning state file. Nothing hard, there are only about 4 interesting controls, named friendly. Two reasons - here in Australia using a prepaid card you can run up a huge bill making test calls. and it hasnt fixed the problem in a usable way so far. Also, it would be useful to know the reason why you want to run the GSM input so high when its causing these problems? call the operator, usually for free :) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
doesn't that imply it doesn't work? having to reboot the phone to go back to handset really means to me that it doesn't work. setting up bt-headset-enabled: 0 and running killall ophonekitd /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart ophonekitd will turn switch to handset without rebooting. to re-enable bt support set bt-headset-enabled: 1 , restart services as above and connect bt device via dbus provided on the wiki. no reboot required... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:39:34 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:43 AM, The Digital Pioneerdigitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: After booting in SHR-Unstable, X does not start. That's a big problem, as unless I have a Linux computer and my USB cable handy, this makes my phone a brick. Please help! download again, check the checksum of the file and reflash? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:50:55 -0500 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com (TDP) wrote: No thanks, I've had enough fun reconfiguring everything as it is. :\ So your system already is configured... you remember what you've changed or when X stopped starting? any log messages? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:22:43 +0400 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com (PF) wrote: The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes: BTW, have you tried disabling esco or not? Give me a command to run or a conffile to edit, or a page of instructions to follow and I'll do it. i am trying it now but somehow no luck at all. shr-u, updated. bt paired OK i edited /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml adding: bt-headset-enabled: yes bt-headset-address: 00:09:DD:31:92:98 reboot no bt sound at all 2009.07.14 17:17:22.232 ophoned.headset DEBUG _handleMonitorTimeout failed: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ophoned/headset.py, line 148, in _handleMonitorTimeout self._updateConnected() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ophoned/headset.py, line 136, in _updateConnected self._connectBT() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ophoned/headset.py, line 101, in _connectBT self.bluez_device_headset.Connect() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) DBusException: org.bluez.Error.NotSupported: Not supported any idea, have i missed something? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
any idea, have i missed something? Petr I had a similar problem, after editing /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml and rebooting I had no sound at all and the phone would never register for some reason. i had the same. started kind of fresh again end ended up with the method SetBTHeadsetPlaying emited error: org.bluez.Error.NotAvailable: Operation not Available full log here: http://www.pastebin.cz/20912 so it's not really the way Paul says... yet Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
full log here: http://www.pastebin.cz/20912 so it's not really the way Paul says... yet no restart, just several few calls and now it looks different... http://www.pastebin.cz/20913 Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Intone bluetooth commands
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:52:46 -0500 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com (TDP) wrote: Hi. This is a feature request for Intone to listen to bluetooth button commands (play, pause, next, prev, etc). The phone itself will handle these for the most part, Intone needs only listen for keypresses like XF86Play etc. It should be quite simple, but then, my GUI programming is next to nothing, so I wouldn't know. NOTE: For anyone who wants their headset to send these events, you need to modprobe uinput. I assume they work on the FR, but I don't know how to test them. They work on my laptop. i would have thought that the keybinding option in Illume would do this but no luck in my case... (did try modprobe uinput) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do with urls in elmdentica? :)
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:56:04 +0200 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk (RIL) wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:58:21PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Is there a good enough browser that takes urls from CLI? Or another interface? Dillo accepts an URL on the command line. the same is true for Midori, included by default in SHR installation and om2009 feeds. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do with urls in elmdentica? :)
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:51:27 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org (RMSS) wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:56:04AM +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:58:21PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Is there a good enough browser that takes urls from CLI? Or another interface? Dillo accepts an URL on the command line. How? /usr/bin/dillo url ? /usr/bin/dillo -someFlag url ? (which flag?) dillo http://google.ca worked for me. Dillo 0.6.6 Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
---8- Unknown internal dbus error: Activation of org.freesmartphone.ousaged timed out, 80 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 20 ** (process:1547): DEBUG: list_resources_callback() ** WARNING **: Unknown error, try again in 10s aborting... ---8- How to solve this? i had some similar strange issues in the middle of this week, upgrade didn't help but reflashing did. followed update didn't break anything. updating previous system on card didn't fix it... so try reflashing... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.23
Sorry for the delay. I was waiting for the icon / genlist scaling issue to get sorted out upstream. Since it seems to be taking time - here's a fixed version of launcher. waiting was long but working Launcher is back :) Thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:03 +0200 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de (K'K) wrote: Am Freitag 10 Juli 2009 18:33:34 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Did you updated framework configs? Latest ousaged - fsousaged migration needs changes in config, otherwise it won't work. i have actually found the issue with my shr-u not working - the uSD card got corrupted somehow, fsck fixed it all and now everything is alright again... symptoms - dbus not working, no gsm. hope this helps to someone Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
lowering gps sampling rate
the wiki mentions ]1[ how to increase the sampling rate of gps, is there a way to lower it to save energy during gps tracking that doesn't require such precision? Petr ]1[ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: lowering gps sampling rate
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:32:25 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: omgps does it. and tracks well too how do you configure it? Is it: Main Menu- GPS Config- Dynamic platform model? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: lowering gps sampling rate
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:49:12 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: yes. make sure to hit the change button thank you for the quick reply. can i do it when i have a fix and am tracking already or is gps restart required? how about FSO, would it affect it too if i use fso gps interface together with other programs simmultaniously? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:54:01 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com (RP) wrote: i upgraded to the latest shr-unstable earlier, and it appears ophonekitd is not being started at boot. when the fr starts, there is no service connection, and an error message when i run shr-settings. hitting 'start' sets everything right should there be a link in /etc/init.d/ ? i can't see anything there - what prompts ophonekitd to start? IIRC it starts with X, look at /etc/X Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
have you found a solution to get around these problems. I have tried a couple of things - including some re-installation of libframeworkd packages; not ending up in a GSM capable status (error message with new handler or what ever) ... i have successfully updated last night with the gsm working but no autosuspend. installing the missing framework config shr ]1[ helped, today my phone worked flawlessly during the day (many calls and several messages). Petr ]1[ http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02/frameworkd-config- shr_0.8.5.1+gitr1472+bdcd9fff733e1a317f8ea35eb6759eb13cde392e- 82+060495f1ddcf6db79c1cd9d12e51b47adac8e2ed-r6_om-gta02.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:13:49 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com (RP) wrote: 2009/6/24 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: - calendar sync: Pimlico-Google: seems to sync nicely one way - pimlico to google but not the other way. how did you get pisi to sync pimlico data - it's not in the options for my install of 0.3? it was in my install: [pimlicodates] description= Pimlico Dates module=calendar_ics path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try to select themes Latest SHR unstable same here Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
$ opkg upgrade * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for frameworkd-config-shr-dev: * frameworkd-config-shr (= 0.8.5.1+gitr1473+130fb4c50f81b803d42b32c69f20e0713930f741-82+060495f1ddcf6db79c1cd9d12e51b47adac8e2ed-r6) * there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package? i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working ok on my end. not really for me, i had to revert back to my backed up system before the update. i will try to update again tonight... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
When I launch Shr Setttings after a reboot, I get a message openkitd not running, would you like to start it or something like this. So I click on the button start, and then after a while, I get the gsm network back. tried several times during the day... will see tomorrow... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:09 +0200 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com (SK) wrote: About x11-16 uglyness - yestersay I've started to make theme, which in x11-16 looks like default theme in x11 :) Results on scap. how do you make it look better? different resolution of images? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:50:07 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death wsod, or enlightement crashed, this is very bad... watch out, wsod is different, no recovery except reboot. en crashing is another story... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
We just released PISI 0.3. Contacts synchronization was extended by SIM (via DBUS) support - making it available to SHR users. Python 2.6 is supported as well (including all dependency packages). Contacts Synchronization currently supports - SIM Card via DBUS (e.g. SHR) - QTopia SQLite (e.g. OM 2008.12) - LDAP (read only) - VCF files (local and webdav), and - Google Contacts Calendar synchronization supports - Google Calendar, and - ICalendar files (local and webdav) Get your copy here: http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html hey, great! thank you for all the work. sync is what is really needed and some people will need even more to upgrade to Paroli (when paroli support is added to pisi). I tried: - contact sync shr_sim-google: (seem to be quite slow due to the dbus-sim slow access?) but worked. seemed to complain about 100 contacts/sim limit but i have to test it more. Also, seems to sync only one way to google. - calendar sync: Pimlico-Google: seems to sync nicely one way - pimlico to google but not the other way. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Contacts scroll / select broken?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:46:40 -0700 (PDT) undrwater undrwa...@verizon.net (U) wrote: As the subject describes, I can't seem to select or scroll in the Contact app. This is either by opening directly or through the Dialer hmm, i can on freshly updated shr-u. are you perhaps running something heavy on the background that the app would be so slow to respond? any messages if you run it from terminal? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
Michael, i set sim limit to 250, her is the console output: http://www.pastebin.cz/20328 calendar was now able to go both ways, but for some reason it doesn't seem to react in real time (is there a lag on google's side, or dates do not show some events?), it also erased one event created on google that should go into fr... several trials on both sides, i will document them better if needed :) here is the calendar output: http://www.pastebin.cz/20330 Petr On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:52:30 +0200 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de (MP) wrote: Petr, thx for the feedback! Indeed, Paroli integration is the next feature I am aiming for ... For the error you were talking about: Could you please start the app from a shell (pisigui) and give some more details about the error from the console output? This would help a bit on narrowing down the problem ... thx in advance, greetings Mike PS: 100 entries is the limit of SIM cards (well, at least of mine - in order to avoid a crash of the application, I put a limit on the configuration - you can change this in the configuration file /home/root/.pisi/conf) Petr Vanek wrote: We just released PISI 0.3. Contacts synchronization was extended by SIM (via DBUS) support - making it available to SHR users. Python 2.6 is supported as well (including all dependency packages). Contacts Synchronization currently supports - SIM Card via DBUS (e.g. SHR) - QTopia SQLite (e.g. OM 2008.12) - LDAP (read only) - VCF files (local and webdav), and - Google Contacts Calendar synchronization supports - Google Calendar, and - ICalendar files (local and webdav) Get your copy here: http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html hey, great! thank you for all the work. sync is what is really needed and some people will need even more to upgrade to Paroli (when paroli support is added to pisi). I tried: - contact sync shr_sim-google: (seem to be quite slow due to the dbus-sim slow access?) but worked. seemed to complain about 100 contacts/sim limit but i have to test it more. Also, seems to sync only one way to google. - calendar sync: Pimlico-Google: seems to sync nicely one way - pimlico to google but not the other way. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz -- Petr Vanek Customer Service Representative ROBE lighting s. r. o. TECHNICAL CENTER Palackeho 416 757 01 Valasske Mezirici Czech Republic Cell: +420 723 452 980 Fax : +420 571 669 255 E-mail: petr.va...@robe.cz http://www.robe.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:01:16 -0400 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca (WB) wrote: Hey - no I don't particularly believe that the phone will cause a problem. However I also don't like lying to people - so if I got hassled by the stews, I'd like to be able to honestly say I've turned off the phone component. plus save battery. in shr, you can turn of gsm by shr-settings or shr-config Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal hi, i track flights on regular basis :) what you might find out is: - in terminals, the glass has metal coating so no fix - you can get a fix on a plane easily and track your flight even with fr in the pocket in the seat in front of you (just needs to stick out a bit). make sure you get a fix before departing (see bellow) - during the flight, the blinds get usually shut, but you can stuck your fr right behind it (with a bit of force :) - FSO has a bug in reporting the speed - you will notice in speed above 200km - check between shr settings and tango - FSO is quite unable to get a fix while in 1m altitude and (or) high speed. it sees the satelites, get's a fix and then for some reason something happens and no satelite is being seen anymore. this will repeat fo as long as you leave it. - shr settings would allow you to switch gsm off but unfortunately, although it's fso based, it is too much related to ophonekitd and therefore the whole work will have to be duplicated in distros not using ophonekit. so now the same settings are being worked on for om2009. what a shame... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:38:41 +0100 Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net (JL) wrote: Hi, I'm writing an article for LWN (http://www.lwn.net) saying that I think SHR is now suitable for your typical LWN.net reader). LWN would like some screenshots of a recent SHR (testing or unstable) that they could publish with the article. Unfortunately my FR is still in transit (buzz fixed by Dr. N et al) so could someone send some recent screenshots to: openm...@coralbark.net I'd especially like the dialler and the main illume launcher screen but I'd appreciate any that you thought were interesting and suitable for publication. Thanks in advance for any help. Jon. Hi, i am uploading it on http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ as we speak, please select what you like :) Cheers -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots
I'd especially like the dialler and the main illume launcher screen but I'd appreciate any that you thought were interesting and suitable for publication. i am uploading it on http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ as we speak, please ok, all was shot on latest SHR unstable, home screen provided by Launcher: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6c99064da4a4022875ea98f0bcfae6fc.png Settings menu integrated into illume: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6e19e463a16b0549125ef8c4da297022.png Contact screen: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/1d6d11aa4e94c67b91b85588dbce2dca.png Messages screen: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/7b3f595e90015d57e72340f336b1f4fd.png P. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:14:02 +0200 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net (MZ) wrote: On Sunday 07 June 2009 12:00:44 Petr Vanek wrote: i am uploading it on http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ as we speak, please select what you like :) Very nice screenshots! How did you get the category bar on the bottom for example on screenshot #2753? Thanks, Michael this is not my shot, but could this be Sort desk? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume keyboard force on/off
it doesn't remember i have made it show once i switch windows and this gets really annoying. is there a way for it to remember it's state for a window? I do not know how hard is it to add this feature into illume, but maybe a useful workaround is to modify the illume theme to have the keyboard toggle button directly accessible? Then you can (de)activate keyboard with one click at any time. (I have done that and am quite happy about it; it's quite hackish, but you can see the sources at http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/e-wm-theme-illume-a.tar.gz thank you for the workaround. the trouble is that showing the keyboard always requires time to redraw the window than needs to be resized if it stayed as is the response would be faster. i am surprised nobody mentioned this much yet as in real life day to day business this is really hard to use feature. iirc illume can hide the keyboard altogether if usb keyboard is connected. this is not the case with bt keyboards (i have one and the soft keyboard always pops up). also this means that these is a way to force off the keyboard. elementary_remote might be the answer but i haven't found if there is a parametr like this yet... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also vertically. yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the response is so funny... the one hand usage is great. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
illume keyboard force on/off
hi, i have some really annoying troubles with the illume keyboard. it doesn't remember i have made it show once i switch windows and this gets really annoying. is there a way for it to remember it's state for a window? imagine a typical situation - retyping from one window to another: open terminal, reach up, get keyboard, type open web browser, reach up, get keyboard, type read up some stuff switch back to terminal - keyboard is off, go up, get keyboard, type switch to browser, read up some more switch back to terminal - keyboard is off, go up, get keyboard, type thanks for any hints... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.18
Here's the latest version. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3010896/launcher_0.20_arm.ipk launcher_0.20_arm.ipk installing now, will let you know. wow, looks damn good! How about clicking on the date/time brigs up the Home category? (quick way home?) Also one more thing that could be applied - when launcher is running and i install new apps, launcher needs to be restarted to find out about it - perhaps running this scan while entering the Set app categories screen would be good? keep up the great work! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Battery Hotswapping
On Sun, 24 May 2009 16:28:29 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 00:21, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I'm trying to hotswap the battery in SHR-unstable, and it's not going well. The GSM chip never comes back online, and the phone section of the settings menu locks up when it tries to load the modules. I have to reboot the phone to get it to work again, and this makes the entire process of hotswapping a pointless waste of time. GSM can't work without battery. You have to turn off GSM before changing bat. i normally hotswapp my battery in shr with no problems and with gsm registration performing ok. it has also been discussed here in community list that this should not cause any issue. has anything changed? -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] [om2009] call volume in shr-unstable
hi, shr-unstable has been working well on my fr. Latest flashing happened about two/three weeks ago. After last upgrades my call volume got really loud and the echo is back. Also the outgoing sound (my voice) is overdriven and distorted a lot. I tried flashing new unstable this morning and the same issue happend. but: my brothers freerunner seems to be much lover on sound output and doesn't show any of this issues, actually his call volume is still on the edge of being audible. The same issue seems to be happening in latest paroli tr4. Is this a FSO bug? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] [om2009] call volume in shr-unstable
K'K Until that will happen, you have to adjust the state file. Open K'K /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state and adjust it. IIRC it is K'K control.4 (Speaker Playback Volume)... setting it to 105 gets me nice 'normal' K'K volume. yeap, tried that and it works. thank you! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GPS] new GPS GUI application for OM freerunner
On Wed, 20 May 2009 12:58:21 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: got any screen shorts or youtube videos of its operation? im interested but at work so i cannot test install anything heya, this is so great, for more that one screenshot only, see here: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/de4071eddbb207fbac1dcae85df9e192.png http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/48816f1448fed5851aa8abbd71f7e07d.png http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/09a4cd3c509fda53067e87b3c378be88.png http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/dfe405a1909c79f003bfe93431583c34.png supports tracks, multilayered maps, shows gps data... @mqy: great job! thank you Petr On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM, mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: I got my gta02 freerunner on DEC 2008. After nearly 5 months development, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of omgps. It is not as feature rich as other GPS applications, such as tangoGPS, anyway I think it should satisfy most of the daily needs. Please goto http://code.google.com/p/omgps/, download and give a try. After ten years of programming as a web developer for most of the time, now I join the community with my little gift :) Thanks you to open source community -- for your great works and spirits. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-GPS--new-GPS-GUI-application-for-OM-freerunner-tp2948257p2948257.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] Python Image Library (PIL)
Is there python2.6 image module available somewhere as ipk? The python-image module doesn't contain the actually Image (import Image). I am currently trying to extract PIL from debian distro but installable ipk would be much better anyways... http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ doesn't seem to find anything for me today... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
Could it be possible to have a import button added? Upload or just make the textarea 'level' writable and add a button to reparse it ? I closed my browser before submitting a level. Still, it remains in my FR since I tested it. you can paste your level code into the text field -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Tue, 12 May 2009 03:20:32 -0700 (PDT) ANT ant0...@gmail.com (A) wrote: Petr Vanek you can paste your level code into the text field No, it is read-only. i haven't realized that... thank you -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
On Fri, 8 May 2009 16:50:27 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: is there anything you can do about the audio cutting in and out with opening applications or while the device is going into auto-dimming while playing? do you play your content from nand or from usd card? i have this issue too but only when playing from usd card. perhaps some kind of buffer would help seems like mplayer does have such an option, has anyone tried this? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
On Sat, 9 May 2009 14:49:59 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com (M) wrote: Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 14:20:08 schrieb Christian Rüb: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? Thanks for your help. At least on Debian the system resumes once you plug in the external power so you would have to do that before suspending. I already took the battery out while the Neo was on usb power and it still ran - but I didn't re- insert it then (because I was intending a hard reboot ;) ) so I don't know if that could damage anything. -- Marcel you don't need to suspend - just plug usb in and replace battery. iirc this should do no harm to neo... i do this all the time. i am even thinking of a tiny small usb battery (20sec of runtime is sufficient) for quick battery replacement... of course, gsm is powered directly so it will loose power... for the time of replacement -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Sat, 9 May 2009 12:14:46 -0500 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com (TDP) wrote: Ahh, yes, I missed that... :] Cool. :) no, it wasn't there before :)) in one afternoon we have 9 new levels :) great, thanks for the idea and for coding! -- Petr Vanek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 09 May 2009 07:36:55 -0600 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org (AA) wrote: Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that we are still working on ) wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the responses are really fast. thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
I have tried the 0.40 (*) version on shr-unstable and all works good as expected :) Petr * http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pre_arm.ipk On Wed, 6 May 2009 18:03:09 -0700 (PDT) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com (C) wrote: Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: Do you want id3 tags in the list too? oh, in that case, i'm not that keen on adding it. i like how it's nice and responsive at the moment, even on slow hardware I'm still considering this. Will investigate the actual performance hit after this weekend's release. If it is acceptable at the time of the initial scan, I'll include this in a later release. Robin Paulson wrote: oh, i see. got you. is there a global mixer for doing this? Yup, I'll just use amixer to set the values. Robin Paulson wrote: can you make the play button change to a pause symbol when it's playing? Already Done. Ok. So here's what's done. * Bass and treble sliders * better sizes (imo) * dbus integration - prevent suspens and pause on incoming call * alternate ciew with id3 and album art * default icon if no album art exists * some clean ups * icon change of play button to pause when playing In process * saving and restoring system volume, bass and treble settings for exit and pause * album art icon sizing * getting song info for the alternate view when not playing * scanning files without extension crash Should be done by the weekend. One more thing, since now SHR, OM 2009 (unstable) and FSO all use the newer e libraries, I'm thinking of moving over to them. Just wanted to know if there are people still using older distributions - in which case I'll have to release 2 diff packages. For those on the newer libraries - a pre-release version is attached below. Just wanted to get some early feedback on the dbus stuff mainly - as also any other relevant points. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2825510.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz -- Petr Vanek Customer Service Representative ROBE lighting s. r. o. TECHNICAL CENTER Palackeho 416 757 01 Valasske Mezirici Czech Republic Cell: +420 723 452 980 Fax : +420 571 669 255 E-mail: petr.va...@robe.cz http://www.robe.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to true the activated status of advanced and restart paroli. lol a few corrections only: in /etc/paroli/paroli.conf enable settings: [settings] activated = True Then press aux for about 2 seconds until the menu appears, select phone, then profile, then illume. WARNING: be tolerant and wait a few seconds (maybe 10 at most) until the UI stabilizes. select display - profile and click on paroli, it will change to illume Have fun! yes :) -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi Angus, thank you for the info and hard work. I have been testing paroli every two to three weeks (regularly i use shr). today i have flashed the testing release 2 image and used it this afternoon. the testing release seems to be full of new features. i flashed it to nand, i use qi. Paroli settings screen - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) great and worked, one can choose upon demand so this is good. - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS got connected instantly, just worked., great. G indication for connection is super. but i could eventually not get disconnected - had to kill paroli and eventually reboot anyways - profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message and others - this needs to be enabled from /etc/paroli/paroli.cfg as some features are still a little experimental the setting app is good. Tons of new feature's in the FSO framework - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries - lots under the hood check here to see all of them http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 Power status events ignored FSO 381 feeds are incorrectly set to unstable interface is responsive and consistent. i quite like it but had to get used to it... as i say i use it every now and then. i can imagine a bit different theming but i am sure this will come and it's not a priority now. i do like the one consistent application approach. now issues: the buttons are too small for fingers sometimes (delete on messages, + to add a message etc.) two times (huh, now again.. so three times) the tele crashed during phone call (call did not get disconnected so i could finish it.) then paroli restart or neo restart... sending sms while off signal gave no error, but no sms saved as draft so got simply lost... operator name not displayed (did get displayed in illume shelf though) sms receiving OK the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller getting through. i actually lost one call on this. i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? autosuspend although enabled did not work, autodim does work Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) i still have it on so i can do more tests if necessary... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
LK the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be LK solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between LK pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller LK getting through. i actually lost one call on this. LK LK I am not entirely sure I can do much about this, as the UI is LK waiting for signals form the framework ... LK LK Does the ringtones are already in .wav format? i have tried this on latest shr testing with no success - still long delay between button press and real answer... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart
On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:33:38 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote: It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed. please keep the original question in the email you answer so one knows what the question was. On Mon, 04 May 2009 10:32:21 -0600 Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com (LV) wrote: The clock on my visible shelf has been overlapping my GSM gadget, so I wanted to remove and re-add it. besides the bug described before (above), there is an easy way to reposition shelf gadgets: just long tap on them, then you can drag them where you want. (too bad we cannot do this with launcher icons...) -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:41:16 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:24:55 +0100 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name said: On 27 Apr 2009, at 02:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:38:20 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net said: Recent versions of Elementary include a support for easy copy/paste actions. I think it's a good example that could be ported also to other toolkits (wich mostly need patches, BTW). yes. just hold down your finger for a second and presto.. menu (you can paste or begin selecting things). the selection is malleable ie the first time when there is no selection you define it with a drag. but after that pressing near the beginning or end of the selection allows you to adjust it to get it right. press and hold again for menu to copy or cut or cancel. cancel just clears the selection and does nothing. copy and cut put that selection in the copy buffer, and going anywhere else to paste will paste it. Wow, nice! But it does only work in text edit fields. Not for example in the sms message view text area. Feature request... ;) that's up to the app - but if you look at elementary_test - anchorview and anchoirblock both are not text fields u can type in - but they are selectable (they allow selection) and the same thing works. it's up to the app to allow selection or not - use anchorview widget or just a simpel label (labels don't allow selection). it works really well, thank you. the only issue i can see is that if the text field is somewhere in the middle of the screen then the popup menu goes under the topbar... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Sun, 3 May 2009 00:24:40 -0700 (PDT) ANT ant0...@gmail.com (A) wrote: Johny Tenfinger Much better to prevent screen dimming that mdbus is dbus-send: Thanks! I'll renew the instructions. P.S. I think 'CPU' must be requested too. it would make a lot of sense to prevent dimming only if the game is active - ball rolling - as one might just stop playing and keep it run (receiving a call and then forgetting) and then accidentally drain battery... yes, in a vehicle or in a pocket it would perhaps stay triggered... just a suggestion :) -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what happened to shr-testing?
On Sun, 3 May 2009 17:58:35 -0400 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com (AJ) wrote: On Friday 01 May 2009 05:03:03 am Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: sorry... I just announced it on shr-user and not here. Something went wrong with the testing build, so I moved it to -bad. To not break mokos out in the wild. see announcement here: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-April/27.html Has the shr-testing repos been restored, or better asked has this problem been fixed? yes, it's working now again. you need to reflash, opkg upgrade wont work. -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:07:49 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:38:20 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net said: Petr Vanek wrote: hi, has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas? Recent versions of Elementary include a support for easy copy/paste actions. I think it's a good example that could be ported also to other toolkits (wich mostly need patches, BTW). yes. just hold down your finger for a second and presto.. menu (you can paste or begin selecting things). the selection is malleable ie the first time when there is no selection you define it with a drag. but after that pressing near the beginning or end of the selection allows you to adjust it to get it right. press and hold again for menu to copy or cut or cancel. cancel just clears the selection and does nothing. copy and cut put that selection in the copy buffer, and going anywhere else to paste will paste it. so it's there in elementary -= handling copy/paste with fingers on a touchscreen. but other toolkits will have a .. harder time. this is what i was looking know, thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all e/illume based] copy/paste
hi, has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas? thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] sms-sentry not working
Hello, anybody made sms-sentry working in current shr-testing? i wanted to give it a try (since it is included in shr-testing (shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Apr 19 09:47) but no luck. Could this be caused by different framework version then sms-sentry was originally written for? Log attached. Petr 2009-04-23 22:13:25,236 DEBUG init 2009-04-23 22:13:35,743 ERROR DBus exception 2009-04-23 22:13:55,818 ERROR DBus exception 2009-04-23 22:14:05,860 ERROR DBus exception 2009-04-23 22:14:15,892 DEBUG register 2009-04-23 22:14:16,523 DEBUG registration failed - waiting 30 seconds 2009-04-23 22:19:44,538 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_message self._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/bin/sms-sentry, line 88, in on_incoming_stored_message self.on_incoming_message( sender, contents, properties ) File /usr/bin/sms-sentry, line 100, in on_incoming_message self.sms_iface.SendMessage( sender, location, { 'type':'SMS_DELIVER', 'alphabet':'gsm' } ) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.KeyError: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in _message_cb retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords) File string, line 1, in lambda File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/resource.py, line 41, in checkedmethod return f(*args, **kw) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/device.py, line 389, in SendMessage mediator.SmsSendMessage( self, dbus_ok, dbus_error, number=number, contents=contents, properties=properties ) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py, line 228, in __init__ AbstractYieldSupport.__init__( self, *args, **kwargs )
Re: shr - messages + wsod
wsod is still there with the latest (19/04!) SHR unstable! It doesn't happen immediately when you suspend. You have to wait a while :( unfortunately i can confirm this... just not sure whether i have booted by NOR or Qi (i needed usb networking and this is not working with Qi on this image) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7
A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . The new list with bugs is now at: http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qt-issues.txt Hi Franky, thanks for all the great work! i will test it during this weekend, cheers -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts
Hi all, I'm running qtextended improved as explained by Franky in the post [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7; I need to import my contacts (from vcf formats) in order to use it as a daily phone and to make some test. I'm trying to use the addressbook command as i have prepared all my contacts into one large vcf file, then i sent it over to qte via bluetooth. worked like a charm. -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009]
thanks for reporting your enthusiasm :D Is there in 2009.1 the possibility to switch from Paroli to another application (like TangoGPS) using Illume menu? this is at this point not possible. petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
so, you run the full fso-ms5.1 image using my qte binaries on them, and bluetooth works ok? Did you remove frameworkd and stuff? And does bluetooth work after unsuspend as well? hi, i used an image as suggested in your script: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/fso-console-image-om-gta02.jffs2 and kernel http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin i booted (actually once only), usb-sshed in and tested bt with hcitool. all ok, so then i ran your script that did the install all automatically. bt works only before suspend. restarting /etc/init.d/bluetooth enables bt after suspend/wake just for the record: strange enough, my procedure before (when bt didn't work) was: download image as suggested in your script (om based at that time), kernel off your site, modules from om again. i had not tested bt before running your script. after installing qte, no bluetooth. cheers petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:47:03 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be (FVL) wrote: Just in time for the holidays ... (install instructions and script updated on 2090410: see below) New progress/bugs: hi, bt not starting, what am i doing wrong here? r...@om-gta02:~# r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Fri Apr 3 17:33:04 CEST 2009 armv4tl unknown r...@om-gta02:~# ls -la /lib/modules/ drwxr-xr-x5 root root0 May 3 18:41 . drwxr-xr-x5 root root0 Jan 1 1970 .. drwxr-xr-x3 root root0 Jan 1 1970 2.6.24 drwxr-xr-x3 root root0 May 3 18:24 2.6.29-rc2 drwxr-xr-x3 root root0 May 3 18:50 2.6.29-rc3 r...@om-gta02:~# /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin/bt-poweron.sh /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin/bt-poweron.sh: line 8: can't create /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/voltage_ldo4: nonexistent directory thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
see my mail and my install script ... bluez4 doesn't work with qtextended (not for me anyway), so in my script I downgrade to bluez3, and fix the poweron script at the same time. But again, see my mail: - bluetooth is not working totally ok, only after initial boot it works, not after suspend/resume. Seems to be kernel/bluez3 version combo issue ... hey Franky, nice piece of work you did, thank you. well, i did use the complete procedure you described. the scripts are there too... plus, i tried before suspend... still no luck i have the kernel from your site thank you petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
see my mail and my install script ... bluez4 doesn't work with qtextended (not for me anyway), so in my script I downgrade to bluez3, and fix the poweron script at the same time. But again, see my mail: - bluetooth is not working totally ok, only after initial boot it works, not after suspend/resume. Seems to be kernel/bluez3 version combo issue ... To be more clear, my install script fixes the following issues: - correct init script for QtE - fix /etc/asound.conf for voicenotes (the scenarios are ok in the code now) - disable avahi (if it is present) - fix the wireless always online after unsuspend issue (new fix) - remove frameworkd (if present) - remove bluez4 and install bluez3 - correct bluetooth poweron/off script (although it doesn't really help) - install atd for alarming I've edited the comments in the script a bit, you can execute each step by hand if wanted. Franky i didn't want to spend time to elaborate on this so i downloaded fso- ms5.1 image instead of om- based image and bt runs ok now. first i tried in raw fso before installing qte thank you for your time anyways... -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
rework
hi, i was lucky enough to get someone to perform the gsm buzz rework. i find the images used in the http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf quite rather _small_ therefore please find some of my pictures done via microscope here: http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/SOP/ Please feel free to use them to improve your manual. Also, we found that placing the 100uF cap according to the manual is rather strange and could cause problems in future - so we placed the cap in a way that is will be soldered to the PCB on both ends, making it hold really tight (that particular picture is somewhat blurry) We didn't have 2k2 in 0402 size so we used 2x 80Ohm in series (we just built a A shape with them). The fix works - done on two units, one showed gsm buzz before and now it's gone. Some of the other pictures show D4301, D4302, as under the microscope we found one of them damaged from manufacturing - placing the cover - something om might watch for. cheers petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter]
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:11 +0100 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com (TB) wrote: it seems that there is no log generated! I'm using the latest package on the latest SHR unstable image! Thanks Tony You have to press three buttons for offline function: auto check auto submit offline -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:09:50 +0100 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org (JR) wrote: Am Di 27. Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Fertser: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor types from the few people so far to have attempted the mod, The feedback is that: you can use any cap, including tantalum. :) but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate stage. No more feedback is really needed. Everyone who performed the rework confirmed that it eliminates the buzz. No single negative report. And i guess at least 10-20 people have already tried the rework. So, the reason that no reseller is doing it yet is probably due to communication/business issues rather than technical. Exactly. I'm not in charge any more to push this fix, but to me it seems we really don't need to quantify how much it improves buzz-issue. The cause and ways to creep in of buzz are well understood by now by some guys at least (and NO it's NOT the mic catching RF near antenna, it's pin4 of hs-jack), the bigC-rework is evidently (based on empiric and EE basics) eliminating the ripple we see on MICBIAS, and a gsmhandset.state file correctly using differential input mode (control.63 value Mic 2) won't break audio function from unfixed to buzzfixed FR. Also we don't need any sophisticated test procedure, as * all devices are prone to buzz issue, so we don't need to prove there is buzz before fix * the big-C rework will either kill the buzz or you find you did sth wrong and mic stops to work. So any engineer doing the actual fix doesn't need any sophisticated fix succeeded test more complicated than that involved in replacing a lightbulb. Test call - works - fine. cheers jOERG Hi, i am planning to do this on two units possibly (80%) this friday, i have one unit with and other without the buzz issue(*), both will undertake the fix. * the units were not used on same operator and in the same locations so i will try them first under the same conditions side by side to see if i can make my other unit buzz even if it didn't before. If this can be an opportunity for you to have me to test anything, please let me know. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have (omap3, 6410 etc.) Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
so if you want collect offline every 10 seconds you have to push: offline mode, auto submit, auto check being on the road today i did remember this issue but not exactly as how to set c.h. properly to collect in offline mode so i also ended up not collecting anything... the offline button has a popup with explanation, could it also have this issue mentioned or include a buton (or autoset) auto check? As also mentioned, number of collected cells would be nice. How does c.h. talk to gps? via gpsd? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? maybe. maybe not. this is the point where you will just be guessing. :) :) OK, i understand. cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:09:10 +0100 (CET) Richy klemms...@gmail.com (R) wrote: Concering GPS: It is true, that it isn't turned on at boot, but it is turned on automatically if needed. The article sounds like it's a must to turn it on manually if you want to use it. i think this causes confusion all the time, but in reality works great: you don't turn anything on or off, daemon runs all the time automatically from init scripts and if client (TangoGPS) connects to it, gps is auto turned on, after TangoGPS disconnects, gps is turned off. -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:11:29 +0100 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 17:07, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Will this be fixed in the boot loader? (ticket) Bootloader is not part of SHR. shr already supports /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin, why not just include /boot/append-GTA02 with loglevel=1 inside and from _not_ours_ we have _solved_ -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
No, we don't have solved, as that would be fix only for systems on microsd cards and only with Qi. AFAIK Qi already sets low loglevel as default (as u-boot in NOR), so fix is needed by people, who use u-boot (in NAND of course). And that fix isn't suitable for u-boot systems. correct... hmm we could perhaps provide boot_env image with correct parameters... but then they would have to flash it... anyhow... the bottom line is, though that once people flash shr on a standard freerunner, the suspend/resume will be slow. -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
window full screen via enlightenment _remote
Hi, is it somehow possible to send a fullscreen command via enlightenment_remote to a application window? Or to have it in the illume simple_menu? Thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] settings - power - auto-dimming or who's responsible for blanking?
Sooo.. my experiences in short: if you want to use the shr-settings, make sure to disable the illume power settings. Ooops.. just now while fiddling.. the Power Settings moduledisappeared again.. restarting the xserver sorted it (like usual ;)) same experience here (have had shr-settings with dim/suspend controls from git since saturday). I cannot see any patterns on when the PowerSettings disappear... i guess we just have to watch the logs and spitted messages closely :) -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Then I tried running the commands by hand, and got this: $ mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'Display' Service name not found Is there a typo in the example, or does shr unstable move things around a bit?\ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Vanous#Navit Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community