FOSS GSM security camera?
Dear all, Does anyone know of an open source (hardware/software/both) GSM security cameras? I.e. a device with at least the following features: * Mains powered. * Includes rechargeable battery to provide uninterruptible power supply for several hours in case of mains failure. * Can be controlled via SMS. * Built-in motion sensor (e.g. passive infra-red). * Built-in camera with automatic night-vision (e.g. by means of infra-red LEDs). * Can be configured to automatically capture photos or video from camera and send same via MMS to a given list of phone numbers, when motion is detected. Bonus points for: * Quad-band capability. * The ability to send photos/videos as attachments via GPRS. * The ability to provide one-way (listening) or two-way communications, e.g. by accepting incoming calls, requiring the caller to enter a passcode, and then putting the caller through to an appropriate menu (Press one to listen; press two to speak and listen.) if the passcode is entered correctly. * On-demand streaming via 3G video call or suchlike. There seem to be a number of such devices being produced, but all are apparently closed-source. See list at end of email for examples. If no-one's producing such devices in the open source community, it would seem - at least on the face of it - to be a reasonable area of business for an open source entrepreneur (not me, I suspect - I don't have the financial capital) to go into, given how large the market is for ADT and similar monitored security services. Many thanks, Sam http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GSM-Remote-Security-Camera-Night-Vision-Quad-Ban-/170518515625?pt=UK_CCTVhash=item27b3b20fa9 http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/10268246/wholesale-gsm-remote-security-alarm http://www.getonitgadgets.com/product601994_2567743.aspx http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GSM-Remote-Security-Camera-Motion-Detection-Nightvision-/260652727434?pt=UK_CCTVhash=item3cb01cfc8a#ht_4981wt_907 http://www.ankaka.com/gsm-security-spy-camera-nightvision-motion-detection_p46631.html http://www.armatexx.eu/consumerelectronics/product_info.php?info=p2177_PIR_Security_Monitor_With_Mobile_MMS_Notification.htmlrefID=google_base http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/9441637/gsm-remote-security-camera-with-nightvision http://www.getonitgadgets.com/product601994_2631302.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FOSS GSM security camera?
Dear all, Thanks for the suggestions. Looks like the financial time cost of the available options doesn't justify a FOSS solution for my application right now, so I've stifled a retch and ordered one of the readymade models from eBay :/ Still, I hope my question has prompted some of the hackers on the list to think about packaging suitable software hardware combos so that consumers will one day be able to buy off-the-shelf FOSS GSM security cams! Thanks again for your time, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
It isn't quite a watch, and it (probably) doesn't run Linux, but I saw this[1] today and thought, I'd like one of those on my wrist, as long as I don't have to run a ton of proprietary software to read and process the data it captures. [1] http://www.cambridgeconsultants.com/news_pr219.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: posting to a blog vs. this list (was: Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?)
Brolin, You're clearly well-meaning, but ... 2010/1/24 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: Fabian Schölzel wrote: On Sunday 24. January 2010 13:38:27, Stefano Cavallari Cavallari wrote: Why does your reply template include the quoted author’s last name twice instead of only once? Also, you should include the time zone/UTC offset because the quoted time of day is still in the future in the Pacific time zone (-08:00). :) ... comments like these are OT in a thread that's already OT. Going that far OT is likely to annoy people on the list who are, for the most part, subscribers because they are far more interested in open source mobile technology than they are in the minutiae of your opinions about other people's email formatting. (Besides which, the full timestamp of any post to the list can be discovered via the list archive, if anyone is really fussed; so there's no need to police the issue.) What about opening a free blog and write your thoughts/happenings there? I think that's a good idea! I actually already have both a Facebook [1] and LiveJournal [2] account. I stopped posting to LiveJournal because I received almost no feedback except when I sent the URL of my posts to people via e-mail, IM, or IRC. I thought I could get more feedback by posting notes (not status updates because the length limit of those is too small) on Facebook, but I receive no feedback at all except when I send the URL of my posts to people. Lots of people seeking good sources of advice and support run into problems. Blogging's a reasonable start, but bloggers - both commercial and non-commercial bloggers - face the problem of fostering an active community of interest. OK, so you're one of those bloggers, like the rest of us. Big woo. Now get creative. Not by telling the OpenMoko mailing list how far you live from your parents' house, but by seeking more appropriate avenues. You want to get advice by asking people questions? Use an online answers service like Yahoo Answers or WikiAnswers, or use a more traditional offline alternative like a counsellor, a friend, or a relative. You want to make your blog more popular, so that you'll have a larger and more active audience? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+make+a+blog+popular Good luck, and please, please consider the relevance of your topic to the mailing list before you post. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#forum Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: posting to a blog vs. this list (was: Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?)
2010/1/24 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de what is that ruckus all about? OK Arne, I live approximately 50.5 miles from my parents' house by road, slightly less as the crow flies. How about you? Maybe we should all discuss the distance we live from our parents' houses, if you're so sure this sort of information is of interest to the list. Perhaps I should tell the list about my sex life too, and which friends I speak to about which issues. Or alternatively perhaps we should encourage that sort of discussion to happen off-list, since it's off-topic. I'm not trying to silence Brolin, just asking him to consider his choice of forum more considerately. Doing so will likely be to his benefit in the long run, anyhow, since in an appropriate forum, his personal progress updates and requests for personal advice would be generally welcomed, not just tolerated. That's likely to lead to less tense interaction on both sides. Over and out, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: recommendations for headset or 3.5mm adapter
2009/9/28 Stefan Buschmann s_buschm...@gmx.de So, would it be possible to solder a wire like this? - 1 x 2.5mm to - 2 x 3.5mm (one for standard earphone, one for standard microphone) Yes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
2009/7/20 Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com MIPS is a great architecture and I am sure that it will have a bright future. Looking even brighter already: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/06/mips_android_port_open_sourced/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
2009/7/20 steven mosher mosherste...@gmail.com A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture. Drop by and say hello. http://www.qi-hardware.com/ Congratulations on the launch of Qi Hardware! First thoughts: the space bar looks a little small.[1] That's a very minor quibble, though :) I've signed up to the mailing list and I'm looking forward to seeing what transpires from QiH. All best, Sam [1]http://www.qi-hardware.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ben-nanonote.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software
I'm looking into SoftSqueeze and SqueezeCenter. Thanks for the pointers! Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
App for remotely controlling jukebox software
Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] [1] http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#tutorial=wirelessmusic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visit at Openmoko
2009/5/26 William Lai w...@openmoko.com No, I was not being sarcastic. People were saying their 'thank you goodbyes' so I wanted to clarify that we are still here, and there is lots of work to do. I do not know Sven and I never saw him in the office, but he has every right to interpret and share what he heard. Yes, there were layoffs. There are just enough people remaining to keep things going (literally) and Sean chose to do so over shutting everything down. Please try to see things from that perspective instead of siding with the more negative aspects. Tomorrow, what remains of us, will go to work and continue to deliver solid FR hardware, provide re-work solutions and run servers for our customers. If you feel that is not enough than please jump in and get your hands dirty. The idea of an open phone started out as a revolution -- now pick up your sticks and fight if you want it to happen. Hurrah! *That's* the spirit! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
2009/5/5 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 18:38:42 schrieb Mile Davidovic: Yesterday I accidentally put my OM phone near LCD TV (Samsung). SW on OM is QT Extended and when I press power button (to wake up mobile) TV immediately turn off. I tried again and TV changed channel. So, on my phone this behavioure is repeatable. If the neo had an infrared led I'd have guessed it sends some random signal, but since it does not... Voodoo... °_° Seriously: Electromagnetic fields? GSM? I really have to try that with my TV... There are various standards that define the kinds/amount of EMI that an electrical device must: (1) be able to cope with, and/or (2) not produce in excess of. It sounds like either your OM or your TV might not be fully compliant. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
2009/4/26 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com it would be very helpful of openmoko, to release any technical docs for the mechanical side of the phone, i.e. the acceleration values it's designed to, so we can make a more scientific assessment of what sort of damping it needs +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
2009/4/28 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: Am So 26. April 2009 schrieb Robin Paulson: it would be very helpful of openmoko, to release any technical docs for the mechanical side of the phone, i.e. the acceleration values it's designed to, so we can make a more scientific assessment of what sort of damping it needs FR is designed to withstand a droptest of 80cm (iirc) to concrete. There are no moveable parts inside except battery (which might be a good idea to add a *thin* layer of foam to fix it for good) and vibrator (and speaker membranes). I don't think bicycle vibrations / impact is a big issue. Nevertheless care about proper protection against rain or put FR in a pocket on first drop. Water resistance wasn't a design parameter. Thanks for this! Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO? Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko for blind users?
2009/3/31 Crane, Matthew mcran...@harris.com Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something like this on a working phone. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.htmlhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree%0An-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html That's a really nice start to making touchscreen devices friendlier for blind users. It'd be great for this to be ported to OpenMoko! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1
2009/2/18 Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name If I were to get this I would gladly act as a beta tester. I could also set it up on my network and give developers shell access, if that's what's needed. However, my primary concern if it's actually open, or if it's filled with super secret patented stuff or otherwise tries to lock me down. I'd need to know that before I even considered it. I'm not an expert, but as others have pointed out, the G1 hardware is not open. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
2009/2/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012 344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect exactly is it not obvious? Yeah, it is jsut like the docking stations used for laptops. Doing exactly the same with a *phone*, now that phones almost are notebooks - wasn't obvious to microsoft or that patent office, it seems. The patent office sees obviousness differently to engineers. Having a patent for something on a tractor for a particular reason doesn't stop someone getting a patent on the exact same thing for the same reason on a fork lift. Somehow it isn't obvious that if it works in one situation it'll also work in a similar one. They see moving the idea from one type of vehicle to another as an inventive step rather than an application of the blindingly obvious. Hm, but aren't there already host mode phones which can dock into cradles like this? Didn't at least one of the HTC phones have this sort of capability? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no For something more creative, have the phone pretend to answer. It could listen to the sales pitch. When silence is detected, pick from a pool of short .wav files that say random stuff like interesting, tell me more, could you please repeat that?, just a momentnoises.where were we?, could you take it from the beginning, my aunt wants to hear about that too! Or, for the Python fans, I'm terribly sorry... I can't hear you, sir, could you try speaking in a lower register? [1] Obviously, such a program should update the phone log with how much telemarketer time it has wasted. And a high-score list where you can see who has talked for the longest time before realizing that something was wrong. :-) Brilliant :) [1] e.g. http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Series_1/82.htm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Not exactly, but close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelie_Kroes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
2009/2/3 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: btw: there's one of these foss organisations doing exactly what we want -- looking for prior art and questioning patents. if anybody knows their address, drop 'em a note ... Do you mean this one? http://openinventionnetwork.com/ I think perhaps arne meant this one: http://linuxdefenders.org/ - although maybe they're related. I found the LD site via the OIN site. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam
2009/1/28 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net So what I suggest is that the list administrators obfuscate list members' addresses even more. MailMan's Pipermail archiver can do this if properly set up. Adding ReCAPTCHA's mailhide[1] might improve this further. [1] http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
2009/1/28 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: i still think, all these ideas to make the thief repent ... uh ... return the phone or track it, are rather pipe dreams -- but anyway ... Locked WinMo devices optionally display a message (e.g. for contact/reward details), in addition to the keypad for unlocking the phone, when switched on or woken up. This would allow return of the phone whether it was stolen or simply lost. Bricking the phone won't get it back, but having the above, plus having the phone report its location regularly, would seem to maximise chances of recovery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework (was: Re: buzz fix)
2009/1/11 Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch: Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great. By fixes, I mean : * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly) * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff * fix the GSM buzz * ... Please feel free to comment and complete this list. And I would like to hear something from pulster on this area. I heartily concur. In fact, one of the things that's made me hold off buying a FR is that there isn't an easy way to get this stuff done. If the reseller could make the fixes for me for a reasonable charge, and under warranty, the FR would suddenly become a much more attractive proposition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Mailing List- Testing
2009/1/12 jida...@jidanni.org: s == sushama sush...@openmoko.com writes: s Its my pleasure to announce this new mailing list 'Testing'. s http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/testing All I know is several openmoko lists have been on and off or changed around and gmane.org has had a mess trying to track them all... Agreed. Might it not be better for people starting threads to do with testing to use [testing] in the subject line? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Strength int to bar conversion
2009/1/5 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com why take something with high accuracy and make it nice an inaccurate by reducing its resolution to basically 5 levels? For simplicity, for unobtrusiveness, and for conformity with standard phone UI practice, I'd guess. The typical 4-bar meter is good at a split-second's glance, yet takes up very little room. Sure, it can be made clickable if you want the detail, but for a quick glance, it's a good compromise, IMO. Plus it make the phone easier to explain to Grandma :) Anyway, is it really something with high accuracy? I'd be interested to know whether the reading Michele is getting takes into account S/N ratio or not. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
2009/1/4 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk: I'm interested in buying a FrogPad keyboard to use with my FreeRunner, Whoa, that's a nifty keyboard! I'm in Cambridge too, and would love to see your FrogPad in action if you can get hold of one. I'd be very grateful if you'd keep me posted (on or off list, as you prefer). Many thanks, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
2009/1/5 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk Will do. Watch out for the next Cambridge OM pubmeet as well. Thanks. Is there a separate mailing list/etc over which the pubmeet will be arranged? Cheers, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur
2008/12/29 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: - we are offering Openmoko Freerunner units now for 299 eur. This is AFAIK best price worldwide. GroupSales 10 units = 279 eur/each Besides me, is there anyone on the list in/near Cambridge or London (UK) who would like to be part of a bulk order (10 units or more)? If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten buyers, we could all save a bit of money... I'd also be interested in the debug board, and I see that pulster.de is offering a 10EUR/unit discount for orders of 5 or more units. So, again, if you'd like one too, let me know. Regards, Sam PS. I've cc'd the Cambridge LUG, because I know at least one member of that list has been thinking about buying a FreeRunner... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur (Sam Kuper)
2008/12/29 Anthony Clearn acle...@yahoo.co.uk: [Sam Kuper wrote: ] If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten buyers, we could all save a bit of money... Hi, have you checked here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales#England Hi Anthony, Nope, I hadn't. I wasn't previously aware of that page, so thanks for pointing it out :) Dear all, Obviously, with a wiki page available for the purpose of co-ordinating group-buy efforts, emailing me to show your interest would be less useful than it would otherwise have been, so please don't bother now. Sorry for the noise. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical text editor ?
2008/12/20 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ? Hmm, I don't have a Freerunner myself (yet), but I do use Debian on other machines. It's definitely possible to get gvim in Debian.[1] I guess if you want to use it in a distro that doesn't have a package for it, it looks like you'd have to do some manual config/installation that I haven't tried, so perhaps other people would be better placed to offer advice on that front.[2] [1]http://packages.debian.org/etch/gvim [2]http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/gui_x11.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical text editor ?
2008/12/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi. It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I am looking for : * Wrap text at the end of line * Line number show * graphical way of selecting files to open. I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ? gvim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
2008/12/18 Justyn Butler justynbutler+openm...@googlemail.com: 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org babbled: i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a keyboard, screen and real machine to use... so if i want to check something/google for it or whatever - i use something more comfortable. when i'm walking down the street and go crap... what was X again? i forgot and i want to check... or i need a map of where i am and where i have to go... or need to check to see if the competitors store is selling for less... there is no wifi. there is no lan. there *IS* 3g - even at the beach. and the park. and pretty much everywhere i go 99% of the time... there is 3g. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasted a billion words failing to, thank you Raster! That's why 3G is important! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
2008/12/10 t m ttb.1...@gmail.com The goal of the optimization team was getting us a workable phone. I've installed the testing version yesterday and run into a lot of issues (echo, buzz, not able to wake up) I love the idea of this phone, the openness, the capabilities, but my patience has been stretched beyond tolerance. I have waited more than 2 years for an open phone. Now I have one, I can't use it and I will probably have to wait another half year before the phone will be able to do what any basic phone should be capable of. It is frustrating to see the appearance of great phones like HTC touch or even an iPhone that can do not only basic stuff, but also have the fun part from day one. Android phones are starting to appear. The HTC G1 is not available yet (in the Netherlands), but will be soon. It might not be as open as Openmoko, but it works, has got great features and it is open enough for me.. I opted for the G1, partly for the reasons you've given, but mainly because it turned out to be available as a free upgrade from my old handset. I can't say I'm terribly happy with it. I haven't had my hands on a Freerunner yet for comparison, but depending upon what you want to do with your phone, you may find that the Freerunner gets there first, or has already got there. If anyone in the Netherlands is interested in buying my Freerunner please contact me. I'm not a good advocate for the movement anymore, it will probably will be better if someone with a fresh attitude owns it. Based on my experience owning a G1, I'd suggest you try out whatever phone you're planning to use instead before you ditch your Freerunner. Also look at the forums, etc, to see some of the issues people are having. There's no perfect phone out there at the moment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenVibe is out
2008/12/16 Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com Margo Koppelmann wrote: It would be cool, if it had a web interface so I could control it from my computer over WIFI. GPRS, dude. So you can control it from _everywhere_ ;) Wow, this is like becoming Stelarchttp://www.stelarc.va.com.au/pingbody/index.htmlfor the masses, at least, in the sensitive parts :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console
2008/12/10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potentially there could be some affiliation as I don't believe there is any specific 'OpenWRT' router. Mm the OpenmokoWRT *drool* I may be veering OT here, but Buffalo sell/sold a router with DDWRT pre-loaded. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] copy paste
2008/11/13 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Is it possible to copy/paste in Android ? On my G1, some applications permit cut/copy/paste, but only - as far as I can tell, within the app :( If yes, is it possible do do it without keyboard ? The UI varies with the app. Some use the 'Menu' key to access this functionality. Some use a long screenpress (a bit like Windows Mobile, in case you've used that). Haven't had much time to explore this, as only got my G1 yesterday (free upgrade from previous WinMo phone!). And if copy/paste is possible, this means that we could use a software keyboard app to write text, copy it, then paste into another application text field... or not ? I don't know, but I really hope it's possible. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
2008/11/12 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:23:19PM +, Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800 Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? He did: Subject: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue. (...) We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, (...) I can give you the rest: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use LAME?[1] Users could be asked to compile the software themselves (providing it wasn't made terribly difficult), if that's an issue... Or have I missed the point? (Obviously, Vorbis and FLAC are preferable to MP3, but for those people - and I'm sure there are lots of them - who have MP3-encoded media, a decoder is still needed, even if only to transcode to a freer format.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAME ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
Quote from website: WIFI Multiplayer Holodeck style Deathmatch That is potentially so, so thoroughly awesome and hilarious! Better have a nice open field to play it in, though - could end up running into trees otherwise :D PS. Would beat WiiFit any day (... er, except possibly rainy days!). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: General GPS Question
2008/10/31 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, altimeter chips have been mentioned on this list in the past, when proposals have been made for including an altimeter. But an altimeter is unlikely to reach a production Openmoko phone because the demand is too small. I wasn't proposing that the altimeter would have to be *in* the phone. You might have one in your wristwatch, for instance, or in your pocket... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: General GPS Question
2008/10/30 Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would be nice if you go on a mountain and you are standing in front of a signpost (google translated) with meters over Sea value Or if you have an altimeter with you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
2008/10/21 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] you'd probably need to port androids display system to run under x11. ie a android window/surface == x11 window. also emulate any other things via icccm/netwm etc. this would actually be cool. you can run any desktop you like (2007.x matchbox style, e+illume, xfce... or anything else AND run android app AND run qt apps AND run gtk apps.. AND EFL, AND java... AND C#/mono, AND...) That sounds awesome. If this worked, and was stable, the OpenMoko phones could become the ultimate pocket devices: more flexible than the phones designed for (and quite possibly limited to) Android. The scope for increasing one's productivity with such a monster is great indeed, and given that it's this kind of potential for productivity increases that draws me to PDAs, I'm pretty excited by the prospect. spk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
2008/10/13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was *very* disapointed when I discovered the audio quality via headphones:in IRC they told me that it was because the capacitor(that is between headphone out and the sound card)'s value was too low and acted as a filter... As I am too afraid of breaking the openmoko i won't change the capacitor myself...but what could I do? build/buy an external amplifier(will it work fine?) or find a place where they could remplace me the capacitor? I wasn't aware of this problem, but if what you are saying is that the headphone out socket of the phone has a capacitor connected across it that is attenuating the high frequencies, then an external amplifier connected to that socket will not be able to restore those frequencies. A well-designed amplifier that takes a digital audio feed from the USB socket - a USB soundcard, essentially, would work in principle, but in practice may be expensive/time-consuming to implement. My advice would be to try listening to music on your phone. If it sounds fine, don't worry about it further. If it isn't fine, try using a distro that is known to have good sound capabilities (someone else mentioned that Debian gives high playback quality). Only if this fails to give you adequate quality might it be worth investigating hardware replacements/augmentation. Regards, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/12 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition, i would recommend a look a look at multimedia functions. If the device were to play music (mp3) if there were ways to be more power efficient. Good point. Am I right in thinking that there was a point during the development of Sony-Ericsson's phones (the point being the introduction of the Walkman series) when they suddenly became able to play MP3s while on standby? This would be a really good feature for OpenMoko phones to have, especially if they are to be competitive against mass-market media player phones. [snip] using one of the ultra low power micron controller such as one of the AVR pico series will allow greater flexibility with the ability to make it function like the device BIOS as well and upgrade its firmware if and when necessary. This could also help the battery charging problem when powered down! I agree; enabling the device to charge when powered down would be a good thing. The vast majority of consumers will need to be confident that if they plug their phone into a power source, it will (1) start charging and keep charging until the battery is full, and (2) light an LED while charging to indicate the state of the battery (typically, red=empty, amber=usable but not full, green=full). An awful lot of consumers, after all, do not RTFM and will assume the phone is broken if it doesn't do this. I know FR is still oriented at developers, but most developers are consumers too, and would prefer not to RTM any more than they have to. What's more, even with the best will in the world, batteries *do* run down completely from time to time. OM users deserve better than to have to remember magic sequences, etc, to get the phone working again after this happens. People do need to be able to rely on their phones. At the moment, if you've forgotten (or didn't know) about the magic sequences, and you find yourself with a discharged phone at a place with not internet access and only a USB charger, you'd be rather stuck. With most commercial phones, however, you'd just plug them in and let them charge until they had enough power in the battery to be switched on again. Sorry if this has all been said before. All best, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org That's a really neat site already. Kudos! Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/11 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well you can simply wake and do event type actions like vibrate and flash LEDs then, the stimulus you are responding to like incoming call will be a CPU wake event so that lot will work. What can't be done (because of a completely Linux-centric POV in the design) is anything while the CPU is off in suspend. We can leave a LED on during suspend, but there is no intelligence to flash it or whatever. So while the CPU is awake, it can set the state of the LEDs, etc, and then when it suspends, that state will remain unchanged? That actually doesn't sound *so* limiting. I guess that ultimately it would be nice if the states that you could leave the indicators in included cyclic states - flash once every 2 seconds, for instance. This could perhaps be handled by a *very* basic microcontroller to which the CPU would devolve responsibility for managing the indicators. This would increase the richness of the hardware UI provide developers/users with many more options for how the phone would behave in the suspend state. This is evidently the sort of thing the I2C LED drivers you mentioned above would be used for, but by indicators, I'm thinking of not just the LEDs but also the vibrator, screen backlight speakers. So something like a QFN PIC might be more appropriate than just an LED driver (although maybe an LED driver could be interfaced to non-LED indicators; I'm not sure). It's great to hear OpenMoko might introduce this sort of extra circuitry into the next generation of OM phones. It would be awesome if it was implemented as a retrofittable PCB for the FR, though I guess this would be pretty hard to achieve. So overall it's not quite as bad as it sounded I hope. No, it isn't. I'm still not totally sure I want to spend ~400GBP on the FR+debug board just yet, but I'm much closer to doing so. Thanks for your quick reply, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/9 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Norton wrote: 2008/10/9 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the main cpu is suspended, like in the neo, but the power management unit is not I'm sure I recently read a datasheet for a PMU which supported various flash patterns for LEDs even during suspend. Unfortunately I can't Not really a PMU but an i2c device for just doing that. We might be using one or another in future products To me, having the phone able to perform basic notification functions (LED blink, vibrate, make a sound) on certain events, even when the phone is on standby, seems like a very desirable - not to say obvious - feature. I was right on the verge of buying a FreeRunner when I read the message above, but think I may hold off for now, as it looks like that sort of functionality isn't something a firmware upgrade would enable. Is my understanding correct? If so, am I also right in thinking that retrofitting the hardware capability to do this would be *really* hard without serious SMT-soldering/PCB-fabrication tools and a big investment of time? Many thanks in advance for your help, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
