Hint for gmail-users: How to mute a conversation
Hello fellow openmoko users, For all gmail-users there is an easy way to deal with the threads that just won't die. Given the last 1-2 weeks on this list I think this topic is not offtopic in the least. I know that finding out about this feature is what kept me subscribed to this list. :) Here is a way to permanently mute conversations you are not interested in. I think that's a good enough solution, until maybe some other form of regulation keeps some people in line. Here you go: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47787topic=1565 * * * * * How can I mute (ignore) a conversation? If you're subscribed to a mailing list, you've no doubt been subjected to the 'thread that just won't die!' If you're part of a long message conversation that isn't relevant, you can 'mute' the conversation to keep all future additions out of your inbox. By using the 'm' shortcut key, new messages added to the conversation bypass your inbox so that the conversation stays archived. If your address appears in the to or cc field, though, the conversation will pop back into your inbox ready for your attention. Muted messages are not marked as read, are still searchable, and can specifically be found by searching for: is:muted Filters will still be applied to muted messages. To un-mute a conversation, select the conversation and select Move to inbox from the More actions... menu. Doing so will move the entire conversation to your inbox and will remove the mute action, so that future messages are also delivered to your inbox. * * * * * Have fun. Bring back the joy! ;) Kind regards Sencer -- http://www.sencer.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visual Voicemail
Disable voicemail w/ your carrier (if possible; otherwise just answer before it kicks in). Write a voicemail app for the phone that answers the call after a few rings, plays a message, records response to local memory. Assuming we've got access to the caller ID data, that should be everything needed to write a visual playback app. The Sony Z5 did that in the nineties already. What this is missing is all the calls you get when the phone is off or you don't have coverage, which depending on where you live may be the majority of calls/voicemails you are interested in. But don't get me wrong: A voicemail app that runs and records on the phone is great. I've been missing that feature ever since. Sencer ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary
months - more negative press and FUD that this another case of much promised and nothing will be delivered (DukeNukem Forever syndrome) - loosing momentum and interested people that jump to alternative platforms/devices - ... Now you say you are willing to sell body parts to get that feature. In my book that proves that you've completely lost it and do not operate from a reality-based world-view. So, go ahead and start selling your body parts, I am sure that wifi appearing on an openmoko device is only a matter time. But I am glad, that the people responsible, i.e. those making the decisions have some concept, no, actually have a pretty good grip of reality from where I am sitting. That to me makes the success of the openmoko more likely in the long-term. And that makes me want to spend money and time on it. Now if anybody was in charge, that was selling body parts or making other equaly dubious trade-offs for meaningless phyrric victories with respect to indivual aspects of the software or hardware, I would be running at top speed in the other direction, because failure would be inevitable. greetings from the reality-based world Sencer ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones
On 1/18/07, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. Actually I think most people are saying, that you have full access to a) the hardware and b) to the sources of all applications that run on it. And not only do you have access to the source, but the freedom to change and redistribute the changed application. That's the deciding factor. 3rd party apps in general have been a distinct feature of every smartphone so far, the only reason it's being discussed today at all, is because Apple is disallowing it. Now I am not saying open source isnt great. But from your *average* users perspective I would love to hear the advantages of the open source for these devices. By average user, I assume you mean those people that do not program or administer complex software. Well, let me try it with an analogy: What benefit does somebody have from freedom, when he is not interested in making use of it (i.e. working the same job all his life, voting the same party no matter what, etc.) because his main objectives - feeding his family, doing X or doing Y - are equally possible under a repressive regime and in a free country? It's simple, you'll likely still be better of in the free country, because the freedom enables improvements that you will eventually benefit from, even if you never specifically worked (in a hands-on way) towards those specific interests. Now that doesn't mean that as soon as there is freedom, you automatically and directly are better of if you don't make use of it; it's merely the beginning of a process. So today, and for the 1st generation devices that run openmoko, you may (as an average user) not reap immediate benefits, but you will help enable a success through freedom, in that the other people that do have the interest and/or skill necessary to turn that freedom into a benefit for everybody. Is this just a geek issue? It seems like most of the apps described on this list could be done with any of the windows mobile phones. I'd just love, for my own edification, to hear why this is wrong. For example the PIM/Messaging applications (which areguably are the core of a smaratphone) are not limited by what the device-makers are able and willing to develop. You could add sending SMS over HTTP, sending voice-mails via E-Mail, automatically sending notifications that you are delayed for appointments and for how long (by checking the calendar, the GPS coordinates, and the average speed of your movement). Now the point is not only, that it is possible to write these applications, but that the functionality can be seamlessly integrated into the existing base-applications, and everybody is able to benefit from it. With bluetooth and usb on board, there is a very real possibility of expanding the possibilites in a way that is simply not possible on windows mobile or symbian, because you simply cannot access certain aspects of the phone. As a simple example: Many older wifi-cards that can do WEP but can't do WPA are limited due to software, not hardware reasons. But given that you already paid for them there is no incentive to do that work. Similar with bluetooth functionality, many early phones (looks at nokia) only had a very limited support for certain bluetooth functionality (profiles), and that limitation was due to sotware reasons, not hardware reasons. And interested people that had the time and skill still couldn't do anything about it. People were simply stuck with a castrated phone. [Quoting from a later mail:] This is because big open source projects are often done by teams where everyone can do what they want. This tends to mean there is no singular unified design vision. That's not necessarily the case. In fact I know plenty of counter examples. Open source does not dictate _how_ the software is to be developed or designed. So when you say: But good UI doesn't work that way. that is correct, but it's not necessarily a statement about open source in general. But the bottom line is that my biggest problem with phones is that they are just not designed well. The pretty much all suck! Well, I do not think that open source is a huge enabled in that respect either. So while it doesn't necessarily have to be better or worse than closed source, the code-licence simply isn't a good indicator to judge the likely quality of the UI. Regards Sencer ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary
Renaissance Man, reducing the success or the revolutionary aspect of openmoko to the aspect of Wifi is missing the point completely and utterly. To suggest that that's what I'm doing is missing my point entirely. O RLY? Let me quote what you wrote: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary The reason is neither of them have VoIP via WiFi. Reality distortion field in full effect... Sencer P.S.: Thanks for finally realising that it is better if you drop the debate about including wifi in the first generation device. Be it whether the fundamental point people having been trying to make to you, got through, or because you decided to move on to cheerleading and trolling for some other revolutionary product. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary
You still don't get it. The revolutionary aspect of such a device would be the ability to talk to anyone mostly for free with one device and phone number, and be mobile. WiFi/VoIP is just a necessary part of the package for achieving that. Everbody gets what you are saying. It is you who does not understand that it is largely irrelevant, because everybody already is in favour of having wifi at some point. The question is not about the plus side of having wifi, but the question is with dealing with the costs of adding wifi to 1st generation device, which completely flies past you. Hey, no problem. Sorry for being so inconvenient as to have a different view to start with. What different view? As I said everybody is in favour of having wifi, that's not the debate. The debate should be about weighing the cost and benefit of having wifi in the 1st gen. device. But all you do is keep on talking about how great an enabler wifi would be, and then go off on tangents about VOIP over WiFI -. great feature or greatest feature?... any you never even responded to any of the many points made that explain why getting wifi later is a better of course of action for the overall project (the software platform, remember?). I know how awful it can be for people like you if others don't think the same way as you to begin with. +1 irony The only issue I have is with your utterly pointless and unproductive whining that is clogging the list. Sencer ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
