Re: gsm no longer registers on 2008.8
This is a known issue for 2008.8: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/2008.8#Known_Issues Tim On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:51 PM, tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya I haven't been able to make calls for a day or so under asu, I'm getting not registered when I try and dial 121 (vodafone voicemail) from the dialer app. It worked for a while after I installed 2008.8, I'm not sure what I've done to it. What to do? I could always reflash if I've done something wrong, but it'd be nice to at least figure out what went wrong first, or am I wasting my time? The sim is still working in my sony ericsson. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as a telephone
Thanks Cédric, that's really useful. I'll try it again this evening. Tim On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have came back to a clean install of 0808 image, I will retest reception of sms/calls while sleeping... (humm no, that is not me sleeping, juste the phone !) So for these very basic tasks Qtopia works not too bad for me : * Just tried, and sms do wake up immediately my phone, prompt me if I want to read the sms and if I choose Yes I can read it. * Lock screen issue : If my screen is locked before suspend, it keeps locked on wake by sms. I had to unlock before choosing Yes to read sms - perfect since it might have wake up in my pocket for exemple. There is a problem if it goes into suspend while not locked - in this case sms wakes the phone unlocked ! That's why it would be better if the lock screen was automatically activated before suspend. * I have never seen the phone waking up from suspend for other causes than power button, gsm call, or sms (such as GSM cell registration). (and I have 40 km travel each day, sometimes even roaming). I also tried to check yesterday that it was not, ie. waked up with just dimmed screen : even always tapping on the screen during the travel, it kept on suspend. I wonder what is done differently form 2007.2 or 2008.8 distro where it so often wakes up ? Does FSO work correctly ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as a telephone
I found Qtopia had problems receiving calls when suspended and receiving text messages. Also pressing the keypad whilst making a call didn't work, rendering my voicemail useless for the calls I missed. It frequently displayed No network too, dispite being in an area with excellent coverage. Tim On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:01 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qtopia. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:05 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Using freerunner as a telephone What is the best image and configuration to have freerunner making and receiving telephone calls. I am thinking maximum reliability and battery life. Kind of failsafe mode. Or am I on the wrong universe? -- - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as a telephone
Thanks for that infomation. I did this testing on Saturday so I must of had a bad build. Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? I'd be really happy just to use the Neo as a phone to make and receive calls and text messages, then I'll put 2008.8 on the SD card for tangoGPS and dev stuff. Thanks, Tim On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 13:49, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found Qtopia had problems receiving calls when suspended and receiving text messages. Also pressing the keypad whilst making a call didn't work, rendering my voicemail useless for the calls I missed. It frequently displayed No network too, dispite being in an area with excellent coverage. Tim For me -tested Om2007.2, ASU, Qtopia- , Qtopia was the distro with the best suspend behaviour : always wake up on calls, I think also for sms, and does not wake up else (gsm registration...). Keypad during calls also worked. But maybe since the last release it is not so true anymore... not used enough to be sure but I think I have more little hiccups too... And yes, gsm may be less good because these 3 last days (after update), it usually decides to automatically connect to another (Roaming) network (stronger reception). Last weeks it didn't, and it is at the same location. (And that is a problem for me since manual selection of network does not work, so I have to keep roaming) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as a telephone
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? Latest qtopia image here: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 That appears to be the image that's causing the GSM problems people have experienced, although I'm assuming it's a kernel issue. Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: receiving SMS messages
I can confirm this; it's been happening for the last week or so. Tim On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Dan Weatherill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently received my freerunner, and am enjoying it so far! I have mainly been using the qtopia image from qtopia.net, but have been regularly updating my kernel from buildhost.openmoko.org. On doing some testing, I find the following: I can receive SMS messages perfectly whilst the phone is on, in qtopia. Not always so well in the GTK stack. If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both images as well. If I then subsequently receive a message after the others, whilst the phone is out of standby, I receive all the messages together. Hence, no messages are lost in the ether, but it seems that messages received whilst the phone is on standby are temporarily mislaid. If there is any information I can provide to help you sort this please just let me know. This is one of very few things preventing me using the neo as a day to day phone with qtopia. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at speed? Tim On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM, André Gaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ I'll go for another bike ride right now... ;) André ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)
If you don't need a GPS that's great but I find them really useful. Yes, maps and a compasses are really useful but they are quite bulky and you need the right one. Thanks to the FreeRunner I've now got localised, street level maps for a large part of the work (OSM[0]) in my pocket. In addition to this I don't even have to work out where I am and what direction I am moving in. I'm also looking for a mount for my bicycle handlebars so I'll have a full bike computer with me when I'm riding - speed, direction, time and distance will all be displayed for me along with the map. If I think of anything else I want to hand I could either implement it myself or ask the tangoGPS guys. And they are *so* much fun in planes :) Tim [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/ On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:38:07PM +0300, Mikko Rauhala wrote: ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti: I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this will take at least five more years, probably ten. That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (though even for that it can be a handy help, especially in areas that don't happen to have lots of turn restrictions, though you of course don't want to just blindly drive listening to it anyway). Us others want navigation too and are considerably less hampered by OSM's current lackings. 'course, there are other projects than TangoGPS, but it seems otherwise nice so one would like it to include this as well. As long as I'm not coding it, it's not my call, of course :] PS: Kudos for your work and all, but with all your hyperbole, jumping to conclusions, accusations of lying and stuff, you might want to take a step back for a breather if you want, you know, people to bother to listen to you instead of just wanting to rant wildly. I have a really dumb question: What is the point of having GPS anyway? I don't travel much, so perhaps that's why I just don't get it. If I'm navigating around a strange city, though, a hardcopy map is plenty good. I spend most of my time walking or taking public transport, within a very short radius, in an area I already know very well. I'm just not getting what's cool or exciting about GPS. -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best UK data plan?
That seems a good deal. Looking at their terms and conditions it looks as if there is no hard coded bandwidth limitations too. http://shop.o2.co.uk/boltonTerms?boltonId=180028 Tim On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Jul 2008, at 15:56, Gothnet wrote: ... I'm expecting my FreeRunner in the next day or so (thanks Truebox) and was wondering if any other UK users had come across any good data tariffs? I've got myself a SIM card from T-Mobile with their Solo 15 package, and managed to persuade the guy in the shop to try selling it to me with their Mobile Broadband Plus add-on. 12.50 for 3G a month unrestricted use. This combination's not on their lists or their website and head office said it couldn't be done, but for once computer says yes in store. It would have helped comparison if you'd included a link [1], but AFACT the summary is £15 / month for 350 minutes + 650 texts. (Plus price of your unlimited data) My initial reaction was that that is a bargain, because presently I'm on an expensive O2's Online 30 contract [2] which includes subsidy of my last handset, a Sony Ericsson P990i smartphone, nearly 18 months ago. As you will see from the link I am paying £30 a month for 400 minutes. I tried to check out alternative tariffs from O2 a couple of weeks ago and found them confusing. I believed at that time the equivalent tariff, not including a subsidised phone was £25. Mobile phone companies seem to try deliberately to make life as confusing as possible - I couldn't find a tariff *exactly* the same as mine, but the one I found was only a few quid saving for about the same number (+/- 12.5%) of minutes. However, in replying to your message today I have just found the O2 simplicity tariffs [3]. Their Online 25 contract is now only £20, and it includes 600 minutes, 1000 texts and a free bolt on. This is actually not obvious from when you click on the link I've given below, because the default bolt on is unlimited free texts, however you can instead select the Unlimited Web by clicking where it says change. Thus O2 Simplicity, despite sounding like a feminine hygiene product, might be better value for you. As I read it you're paying £27.50 per month in total for your Solo 15 (350 minutes + 650 texts) + data. The O2 would give you nearly twice as many calls for £7.50 less, and still include unlimited data! Also voicemail is free on O2 and out-of-inclusive calls seem to be cheaper, too. It looks like the discount of Online 25 to £20 is only available to new subscribers throughout August, which is a bit of a pain because my contract doesn't expire until September. I'll perhaps read //or post to the Usenet group uk.discounts.and.bargains at that time and see if anyone else has any suggestions - it might be worth you doing so now, as I have not tried hard to better the price T-Mobile have offered you, and I think you'll find some experts on that group (also check uk.telecoms.mobile). HTH, Stroller. [1] http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/business/mobile-phones/sim-card/ pay-monthly/ [2] http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months/benefits/Online_30 [3] http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/sim_only ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
And me, please post it! Tim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. It certainly interests me! I don't think we've got the perfect input mechanism by a long shot yet so I'd be really interested in giving any alternatives a try. Thanks Rob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Hello, Is it possible to toggle multitap-pad, the standard keyboard in the latest 2007.2? It would make minimo really usable. I have managed to do this with the full qwerty keyboard* but I would like to be able to use the phone without a stylus. Thanks, Tim * http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it. Marcus, these two statements appear to contradict each other. Can you confirm you will continue to work on tangoGPS? In my opinion so far tangoGPS is the best and most mature application which I've got to run the Freerunner. It would be a great shame for the project to loose your leadership. I tried the ASU yesterday, roughly following what has now been written up in the flash ASU thread earlier today and as that thread details it's broken at the moment. I plan to stick with 2007.2 until one clear standard distribution is available and is kept in a reasonably stable state. Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)
Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. Therefore you wouldn't need to dig out your soldering iron. Does anyone know the other differences with power consumption are between boards? Tim up OM software will eschew the frivoulous lighting of LEDs. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? | Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. | Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? They won't draw any power when off... that part works as intended. It's only when you turn them on, the transistor causes the CPU pin itself to eat current itself due to an oversight. The effect in consumption terms is something as if you lit several LEDs instead of the one, say. But the LEDs come on and off as normal, are lit properly, etc. In normal use the LEDs aren't on much if at all, so it isn't anything that would stop me getting an A5 personally. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgXGtEACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqdMACgimwT/C7TFsv+edbZQIzFN0zE 5tYAnjamWgbP2T42BLJFrOMMU8q/0V52 =e/Vh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
