Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment

2007-07-17 Thread Torsten Röhl
Am Montag, 16. Juli 11:32 schrieb Al Johnson:
i'm agree --- a good (simple installing ) development envirement can be
important for the whole neo projekt (think of an simple eclipse-plugin ...
you just  install is ... and have fun. (with sample basic hello-world  neo 
example and a good documentation))
torsten
ps: for a core-level programmer this is maybe not so important , but for all 
app-developer it can be very worthfull


 I was going to suggest this too. This is the approach taken for the Neuros
 OSD, another linux-based device. It would give a known-working build and
 test environment, rather than having potential developers spending time
 trying to put such an environment together. Mokomakefile is good, but I
 just can't get the qemu to build under gentoo.

 http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/OSD_Virtual_Machine_Development

 On Monday 16 July 2007 10:05, Mario Wewer wrote:
  Maybe anybody could build a vmware image with all development tools
  already installed? That would make it much easier for us..? (at least for
  me...) (Then it would be possible to develope even on a MS mashine
  *smile*)
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: openmoko community@lists.openmoko.org
  Sent: Freitag, 13. Juli 2007 15.29 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
  Subject: Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment
 
  On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:00 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
   On 7/13/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
shell to connect a machine behind firewalled proxy server.
  
   FWIW, the MokoMakefile worked great for me on Xubuntu 7.04.
   Just make sure you have installed the required packages first.
   I had to install gcc-3.4 and sdl (devel) in order for 'make qemu' to
   work.
 
  Well, on openSUSE 10.2 I get
 
  Can't install openembedded-essential_1.1-1: no package provides python
 
  = 2.3
 
  When trying to install openembedded-essential via smart packagemanger
  pointing to http://www.openembedded.org/dl/
 
  I have python 2.5 installed.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 
 
 
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Fwd: Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment

2007-07-16 Thread Torsten Röhl

i'm agree --- a good (simple installing ) development envirement can be
important for the whole neo projekt (think of an simple eclipse-plugin ...
you just  install is ... and have fun. (with sample basic hello-world  neo
example and a good documentation))
torsten

ps: for a core-level programmer this is maybe not so important , but for all
app-developer it can be very worthfull

 I was going to suggest this too. This is the approach taken for the Neuros
 OSD, another linux-based device. It would give a known-working build and
 test environment, rather than having potential developers spending time
 trying to put such an environment together. Mokomakefile is good, but I
 just can't get the qemu to build under gentoo.

 http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/OSD_Virtual_Machine_Development

 On Monday 16 July 2007 10:05, Mario Wewer wrote:
  Maybe anybody could build a vmware image with all development tools
  already installed? That would make it much easier for us..? (at least for
  me...) (Then it would be possible to develope even on a MS mashine
  *smile*)
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: openmoko community@lists.openmoko.org
  Sent: Freitag, 13. Juli 2007 15.29 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
  Subject: Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment
 
  On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:00 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
   On 7/13/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
shell to connect a machine behind firewalled proxy server.
  
   FWIW, the MokoMakefile worked great for me on Xubuntu 7.04.
   Just make sure you have installed the required packages first.
   I had to install gcc-3.4 and sdl (devel) in order for 'make qemu' to
   work.
 
  Well, on openSUSE 10.2 I get
 
  Can't install openembedded-essential_1.1-1: no package provides python
 
  = 2.3
 
  When trying to install openembedded-essential via smart packagemanger
  pointing to http://www.openembedded.org/dl/
 
  I have python 2.5 installed.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-23 Thread Torsten Röhl
Am Samstag, 20. Januar 2007 18:39 schrieb Sencer:
thank you, for the good link ...
i have two questions
i) gtk+ is c based (but i allways think in c++ ) do you think it's possible 
also use the gtk+ c++ bindings for neo1973? - or is this a bad idea...
ii) i read it's also possible to use gtk+  and c++ (with static callbacks) do 
you think maybe this would be possible on neo1973


- torsten 

  I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
  neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
  with.

 This should get you started:
 http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/


 Regards

 Sencer

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Re: Storage + Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

2007-01-15 Thread Torsten Röhl
Am Montag, 15. Januar 2007 14:50 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
 Dnia sobota, 13 stycznia 2007 14:04, Ole Tange napisał:
  I also would expect FIC already has at least one distributer in EU
  that can cover all of EU. From a shipping cost perspective it will
  probably make sense, too.

 From my informations there will be atleast one company in EU which will
 sell Neo1973 phones. I can not tell which one it will be - I can only tell
 that they are well known in some environments.

That would be great,
Torsten Röhl


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Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the iPhone

2007-01-15 Thread Torsten Röhl
Am Montag, 15. Januar 2007 15:44 schrieb Andreas Kostyrka:
 * Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070115 15:35]:
  On 1/12/07 3:23 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   My question is: are there plans for FIC to produce a QWERTY keyboard
   model with native openmoko? (Possibly with wifi in place of gps, and
   with real mini-sd instead of micro-sd - but these are my personal
   preferences) No matter if the phone comes to be somewhat larger!
 
  Yes but this kind of stuff is Q3 / Q4 for us. We're focusing on the
  software issue first. This, IMO, is a far bigger problem. I know our
  first phone is not 3G, not WiFi, and doesn't have a QWERTY keypad. But
  please remember, this is unlocked and unsubsidized. Many components in
  this handset are currently being shipped in our other phones in
  high-volume in Asia. This is the _only_ way I could sell a device in the
  sub-$500 range. Which I think is super important for getting critical
  mass of an open phone.

 That's something I've wondered, why are these things so cheap?
 Typically, one pays the same amount for a subsidized Winmobiles with a
 contract here arounds.

 Andreas

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Why -  QWERTY keypad ? we have a wide screen 2,8 inch and i
love the new iphone concept without qwerty keypad.  I hope that
the next neo1973 generation phones are also iphone like (without qwerty 
keypad) ... i think a neo1973 next generation phone with qwerty keypad is 
just another phone and not more the wonderful neo1973 linux phone.

Torsten

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